“Mental Distress” Redux
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM in Abortion, Barack Obama, WORMs, pandering
If you didn’t see this coming, you have no one to blame but yourself! In The Swamp in yesterday’s Baltimore Sun is another interview with Barack Obama as he “clarifies” his abortion stance - again - in terms of a woman’s “mental distress.” You don’t say - once again, “What Obama Really Meant” is the news du jour (and tip of the hat to BTF at TalkLeft.com). I can scarcely keep up. (Hmm - maybe that is his plan - keep changing his mind a gazillion times so that every single person will THINK he agrees with THEIR position. No doubt, they will be able to point to some time and place in which he said exactly what they believe.)
This time, in response to the reporter’s question regarding if mental distress should count in considering a late term abortion, WORM said this:
Obama: “My only point is this — historically I have been a strong believer in a women’s right to choose with her doctor, her pastor and her family. And it is ..I have consistently been saying that you have to have a health exception on many significant restrictions or bans on abortions including late-term abortions.
In the past there has been some fear on the part of people who, not only people who are anti-abortion, but people who may be in the middle, that that means that if a woman just doesn’t feel good then that is an exception. That’s never been the case.
I don’t think that is how it has been interpreted. My only point is that in an area like partial-birth abortion having a mental, having a health exception can be defined rigorously. It can be defined through physical health, It can be defined by serious clinical mental-health diseases. It is not just a matter of feeling blue. I don’t think that’s how pro-choice folks have interpreted it. I don’t think that’s how the courts have interpreted it and I think that’s important to emphasize and understand.”
Well, golly gee willikers - I don’t think that is a whole lot better, there Obama! Still waffling, still trying to appease all sides, and still acting like women: 1. should CARE what you thinks; and 2. like we need your patronizing permission on ANY of this, especially since YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR! Or a PASTOR! OR a WOMAN!! There are LAWS about this already, there, Skippy, and you don’t have to like them or agree with them, but they exist. There isn’t just “Roe,” there is also “Doe,” which deals directly with the whole “mental distress” provision.
Sheesh.
There are two very good posts on this I would like to commend to you, one by Ann Althouse, an attorney, and the other the author of Fausta’s Blog. They can both be accessed through This Link.
I wonder what flip-flops today will bring?? Oh, I can hardly WAIT!!!
When he grows a uterus, I will give him permission to decide what’s right for me and other women. Till then, he once again shows his remarkable IGNORANCE when it comes to the gender he despises so much.
I think he ought to find out what it’s like to not “feel good”. “Periodically,” to use his verbage. I think he should learn what child birth feels like. I think he should shove an automatic umbrella up his ass and then press the button—and then come back and report to us.
Because if that arrogant sack of narcissistic crap could get pregnant, abortion wouldn’t be a problem, it would be a sacrament.
Uppity, barky is all things to all people. He’s a multi-sexual, multi-cultural messiah, he’s jing an yang.
One huge hopey changey cluster fuck.
Scott, a huge hopey changey cluster fuck? God, I love the English language.
He’s all things to all people and nothing to anybody.
Besides, WHO CARES what these candidates think? Roe Wade is NOT their domain. THey can do NOTHING about it one way or another. And it’s going NOWHERE.
I want to hear why it is that Obama thinks it’s ok to raise capital gains on middle class Americans’ 401ks, their retirement savings and their educational funds for their kids. That’s what I want to know. The thief wants to take a piece of middle America’s pie.
Well if he messes with my Soc Sec I will personally come up there and show him how to use that ‘automatic unbrella’….
Exactly the Middle Class is a target ready to be looted. Obama’s band of thieves from the Chicago School of Economics (Milton Friedman) — these are Obama’s economic advisers — and they helped loot and nearly eliminate the middle class in many South American countries.
There is vast wealth in this country that is OWNED by the tax payers — we and our parents and their parents paid for the land, bridges, roads, buildings etc etc — Federal, State and local assets — that could be “sold off” so that Fed, Stated and local governments could make money to run the government.
What happens is these assets of the people are “auctioned” off or sold to anyone who has the money — at prices way under the value of the property.
PRIVATIZATION — FREE MARKET — This is a religion to the Chicago school of economics boys. This is Obama real religion — he’s been in this privatization - free market binge for decades — thus his close relationship with Rezko (to HELL with the poor folk who were freezing in the privatized buildings).
Obama bakers probably sees the vast savings and pension of the baby boomers ready to retire — and they have plans — and all the money they are pouring into Obama’s campaign to them is a good investment — if their guy wins.
Yep — and we think bush/cheney are looters — they may be the B-team compared to the “advisers” of Obama.
Obama’s position is the same as Russ Feingold’s and more pro-choice than most Democrats.
But you prefer a candidate who has been anti-choice his whole life.
How can you claim that you care about women’s ability to control their bodies?
barky loves terrorist.
Pro-choice? Obama will say anything to get votes. He has not morals or standards.
Neither do people who defend him.
tell me does Obama pay you trolls by the comment or by the hour?
This refrain is extremely BORING.
Trolls get minimum wage and no benefits. Obama gets paid hugh amount of money plus retirement, health, etc. benefits as a Senator, and his campaign consultants are making millions.
But hey, the trolls are the little people.
they get paid in koolaide and nummies
LOL.
They don’t need much. They are busy taking money from their parents.
You want to know BORING? Boring is hearing you parse his words and try to tell us how much of a supporter he has been of women’s rights when his votes have been “present.” It doesn’t take ANY guts to say, “hey, I’m here.” Tell me up or down, yes or no. By trying to be all things to all people, as Uppity said, he is nada to nobody. And that isn’t any comfort. I want a candidate who isn’t afraid of taking a position. Not one who takes one and then disowns it when it’s not convenient … except that anyone who doesn’t vote for him is an ignorant racist. That is the only thing about which he is consistent.
You want to know BORING? Boring is hearing you parse his words and try to tell us how much of a supporter he has been of women’s rights when his votes have been “present.” It doesn’t take ANY guts to say, “hey, I’m here.” Tell me up or down, yes or no. By trying to be all things to all people, as Uppity said, he is nada to nobody. And that isn’t any comfort. I want a candidate who isn’t afraid of taking a position. Not one who takes one and then disowns it when it’s not convenient … except that anyone who doesn’t vote for him is an ignorant racist. That is the only thing about which he is consistent.
WHO. CARES?
Presidents don’t make these choices. Pure and simple. It is not for the executive branch to keep babbling about it. And Roe v Wade is going NOWHERE. And women are sick and tired of the Democratic party using it as a blackmail tool when they cannot do a THING about it and wouldn’t if they COULD, because then what would they use to keep women doing all their party grunt work for them.
Today, the DNC admitted it is having problems raising funds. Gee, I wonder WHY?
Good. Serves them freaking right. I hope that the down ticket candidates get pissed off but plenty since he has taken all of the finances into his hands.
They can’t raise funds because all of the DWJ (Democrats With Jobs) have DESERTED THEM.
They’re left with Koolaid drinking NIKES (No Income Kids with Educations), living in their parents’ basements.
That beer and pizza and pot allowance only goes so far…..
He loves Pakistan. And he especially loves Pakistani fund raisers. They set women on fire over there. What does he have to say about THAT when he takes those checks? You think I want this man to be my president?
Sorry Uppity, I was speaking to believer.
Go away troll! This is not a unity site, I’m sure if you troll around you can find one suited for you, try dumbass.com
I can “claim to care about women’s ability to control their bodies” because I do. Roe v Wade wasn’t about establishing “laws” for abortion but giving back control of their bodies to women.
A nurse, Margaret Sanger, one of the first advocates for women having access to birth control spent time in prison because of the Comstock Law of 1873, as did many other women in the movement, to give women equal rights to control their own bodies. The law was not overturned until 1938.
Roe v Wade upheld the women’s right of choice and all the work to overturn it is essentially trying to return the country to those Comstock Law “good old days” and Barack Obama’s “clarification” does nothing to change that fact. He should read the history of the women’s movement involving reproductive rights and a good place to start is with another strong women who just wouldn’t take NO for an answer and was willing to put her life on the line for it, Margaret Sanger.
I doubt Mr. Obama would have the courage to put his life on the line to bring back the Comstock Law on reproductive rights.
Well, “believe” this. At Project VoteSmart (www.votesmart.org), there are a grand total of FOUR significant votes dealing with ABORTION matters that came up during Obama’s Senate term.
On Senate Con Res 18 (from 2005, the “Uninteded Pregnancy Amendment”, SPONSORED BY HILLARY CLINTON), Obama voted Yes (the “good” way–the amendment was rejected).
On Sen Amdt 2707 and Sen Amdt 3330, both from 2007, Obama did NOT VOTE. And, this year, on Sen Amdt 3896, Obama did NOT VOTE again. Now, in fairness, all three of these votes came during the election campaigning period and Sen Clinton didn’t vote on these either. BUT, Sen Clinton took very strong stances on 3 previous abortion-related votes before Obama’s entry to the Senate–she voted to continue allowing women in the military to have access to legal abortions and she voted (twice) on measures which would continue allowing intact dilation and extraction. So, compared to Sen Clinton, Barack Obama hasn’t really shown himself to be a STRONG supporter of legal abortions.
LMAO…OMG…You are one damn fiesty woman-I like it! haha, I agree!
Can I just add in PPD which I have witnessed first hand, that does at times first begin to manifest itself during pregnancy; not just after. My sister had it so bad during the last couple months of her pregnancy she wouldn’t even go to the doctor. I had to force her to go. She didn’t even want to admit she was pregnant. Then when my neice was born she’d walk right past her when she was crying and would go to her older son. Pick him up and try to calm him down. It was like her second child didn’t even exist. I ended up caring for her till she was almost a year old then something snapped in her mind that she was indeed her child. I had to go to class one day after she was first born and the regular babysitter was sick. So I had no one else to watch the children. We didn’t fully understand PPD then, so I asked her to watch the children so I could go to class. I had a final. I was only going to be gone a couple hours. I was in taking my test when I got a call from CPS. She had taken my two children and her older child to the park and left the baby at home alone. They found her all alone after a neighbor called and said she’d been screaming for over an hour and wasn’t sure if something had happened to me. He couldn’t possibly understand what was going on in her mind. I am a women and I didn’t understand it. If I hadn’t been there who knows what could have happened both during and after her pregnancy.
Amen, Uppity!!
Can this guy BE any more patronizing?!? It is really staggering - does he not REALIZE people are writing this down, or videotaping it, or anything??
And absolutely sick to death of Roe V. Wade being used as a stick to get us in line. Really. Amazingly, after almost 8 yrs of Bush, it is STILL there. If ANYONE was going to get rid of it, it would have been him, not McCain. Though who knows -the way Barack is moving, HE might want to get rid of it! Just sayin’!
Oh, and NARAL continues to defend him on a very slim technicality. Sad.
I read some of the comments on the Althouse take on this and it was scary, mAlthouse indicates the physical issues should be limited too: Blogger Ann Althouse said in her blog linked above…
Comment by AA : Isn’t it obvious that the “serious physical issue” ought to have to do with body parts that are affected by the pregnancy?
11:26 PM
UHM NO ANN, good GAWD, OTHER BODY PARTS can lead to a life threatenting risk to the mother during the thrid trimester. Christ, what if she is hit in the head with a heavy object and needs surgery that will damage the baby? What if they find ut she has a brain tumor in the third trimester? I saw a HOUSE episode, they are more aware than you Ann and you are out there limiting women’s physical issue as well as trying to have the mental issue eliminated. GOOD GAWD.
Uhhbama also keeps belittling mental illness on top of his NEEDING TO SHUT UP ABOUT ABORTION LIMITS. JUST. SHUT. UP. BAWACK. Dont tell me about “the wrenching moral decision” faced by pro lifers that “pro choice people just dont understand” WHO THE FRAK ARE YOU?
I guess YOU arent ONE OF THOSE PRO CHOICE PEOPLE, since you aparently “GET IT” about abortion in a way, I, a mere WOMAN, don’t.
What happened to PARITY?? wasnt Teddy Kennedy gonna get us PARITY? Now every time we turn round Uhhbama is dissing the mentally ill. He says his ‘Uncle’ (the same guy who somehow liberated a camp from the Pacific, uh-huh,) was in the ‘attic for months’, belittles PTSD, and for the second time, imputes ‘moodiness’ to a woman with mental distress.
Having the ‘blues’ as a reason for late term abortion? Really Bawack? SHUT UP UNTIL YOU GET PREGNANT BAWACK. JUST. SHUT. UP.
grrrrrr
Exactly. What’s this nonsense about a woman’s right to choose with her doctor, her pastor, and her family? In that order? It’s a woman’s right to choose—period. He repeats this way too often for my comfort. Does he intend this to be a new standard for deciding whether to have an abortion or not?
My abortion was my decision. It didn’t screw me up or throw me into a depression, and I certainly didn’t consult with a pastor. (The doctor was helpful, though!) One of the pro-life movement’s goals has always been to make women feel guilty for having an abortion and to convince them that it will screw them up psychologically for the rest of their lives. Obama is adding to the guilt trip by suggesting that a woman cannot decide alone.
John McCain believes that Roe V Wade should be overturned. So stop with the wailing because you have already proven that you don’t give a damn about legal abortions. You support the man who will work to over turn all of them.
And for the morons who don’t believe that, here is the link to his own campaign site.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
Mike S:
Several states have legal abortion on their books and others are prepared to do the same. In the slim to none liklihood that this ever happened, it would revert to the states. We aren’t taking the “beat them in the uterus” until they vote for him technique serious …. And you accuse the REPUBLICANS of using fear? You are a disgusting fearmonger if ever I saw one!
Go to hell Mikie — you don’t belong in this discussion — you are as stupid as your messiah.
Obama’s going to jail very soon.
Mike, at what point will it get through to you and the other Obama trolls that McCain is the first choice of very few if any people who comment here - nor second nor third nor fourth. We were backing the best choice, Hillary. That people are considering voting for McCain should tell you just how despicable they find Obama. You need to address that problem, not tell us things we already know about McCain.
Mike you do realize that if RvW is overturned, abortion would be a state to state rule.
BTW don’t you think if it could be overturned it would have been by Reagan, Bush 1 or Bush 2
Yes, it would be a state to state rule and a lot of states would ban it immediately. In fact, they have the legislation ready right now, to be put out there as soon as Roe goes. And then you’ll have lots of women who can’t afford to travel to other states to have abortions. They won’t be able to take the time off, to pay for hotel rooms and travel.
In other states, it will be a constant fight to keep abortion legal and safe. We’ll have to spend our time and money defending the right to choose in those states and sometimes we’ll lose that right or see it cut back.
Other states it will be legal. Great, but still the state legislatures could go Republican and then the right will be threatened. And that doesn’t help the other situations.
Likely result: Women dying of septic shock like they did before Roe, as the result of self-inflicted abortions.
We’ll then I suggest that these college kids that are fawning for barky take up that fight instead of taking RvW for granted.
Preserving Roe by electing a Democratic president is easier than turning abortion into 50 state fights.
Well, if we had a Democratic nominee, this would be true. But since we have a crazy extremist with a D next to his name, not so true.
Since when do PRESIDENTS have the all out POWER to choose the justices? A Democratic Senate can CHECK McCain easily.
It’s called ADVISE AND CONSENT.
If McCain keeps sending assholes for confirmation, it is the duty of the Democratic Senate to swat them down. And if they don’t swat them down, well, they’re assholes, now, aren’t they?
You don’t NEED nine on the court. We’ve done business before with fewer. Not having a full bench matters not at all.
Even Crazy Scalia has said that Roe is “settled law.”
That Roe drama is just red meat for fools. The right bites it, and so does the left.
Haven’t you noticed it’s already a 50 state fight? Just about every year states put anti abortion laws in the legislature and every year they are voted on. Missouri has even passed some which went before the Supreme Court and where overturned as unconstitutional. And, yes, it’s still legal but try finding a doctor who will do the procedure in your home town!
Or, for that matter, hunt for a non judgmental pharmacist who will fill your prescription for the morning after pill even if you’ve been raped. Roe v Wade has been gutted while we watched. There really isn’t much left for McCain or Obama to get rid of.
Well Make-believe, I live in a Blue State, with Primaries ( you know, how grown-up Democrats choose their leaders.) State rights don’t concern me at all. Now I agree with you, all those red states with caucuses? Could be a problem. HOWEVER- all those silly Obama girls should have thought of that before they stormed those red states caucuses with their intimidation and manipulation. Sometimes you reap what you sow. Let them organize and fight for themselves instead of an empty suit. They abandoned women’s issues remember? They had no kinship or stake in Hillary’s campaign remember? You reap what you sow.
believe are you a woman? If not, it’s not even your business.
“If not, it’s not even your business”????
Right, so my concern about any woman I know, ones I don’t know or my daughter mean nothing eh? I should have no concern for it?
Following your reasoning evidenced by that statement Uppity - then MLK and the civil rights movement should’ve turned away people not of color who marched… and LBJ shouldn’t have gotten involved and gotten things done as Hillary said.
Amazing…
Don’t punch me in the uterus to vote for your flawed candidate. It doesn’t work that way. And who is it who used the delightful phrase “punished with a baby?” There’s a real champion of a father, don’t you think?
And who is it who used the delightful phrase “punished with a baby?”
None other than Stanley’s little mistake. You know, the one who grew up to be a raging narcissist who hates older white women.
I don’t make decisions about your balls. Lay off my uterus.
Uppity, is anything being done about the asshole that’s been jacking other peoples names? I don’t care who the guy is that kind of thing is the ultimate in lowlife behavior.
If you see your name or somebody else’s name hijacked, just email SUsanunpc and she will take care of the jerk. We have to look out for each other. They do this to all of us every now and then. Once their IP is harnessed, they have to send another Stepford child in their place.
Oh and send the thread LINK and a copy of the message that’s a forgery.
Danke
You want women making decisions on what happens to your penis or gonads? How about we cut off your nuts, because we want to control your reproductive ability?
That work for you?
It ain’t YOUR business.
It’s a WOMAN’S right to choose. Not a man’s. When men develop uteri, they can make choices about what happens in theirs, too. Until then, they need to back away, STFU, and leave it up to the WOMAN.
And because Obama doesn’t get it, it should be reiterated that she doesn’t have to consult with her family, her pastor, or anyone. They don’t own that body part–SHE does.
I’ve posted this before; it bears repeating:
As many Hillary Clinton supporters continue to be vocal about their determination to not support Barack Obama and the DNC, the Party is increasingly resorting to Rovian fear tactics to undermine our resolve. Evoking the specter of back-room abortions is one such example.
Roe v. Wade is a Supreme Court decision that has withstood the administrations of Richard M. Nixon, Gerald H. Ford, Ronald W. Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush. Pro-choice has remained the dominant position among American voters, regardless of Party affiliation.
A report published by The Center for American Progress in June of 2007 indicated that the majority of Americans continue to support abortion rights:
• 55% said that the choice of abortion should be left up to the woman and her physician;
• 60% stated the belief that the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision was a good thing;
• 62% stated that they opposed overturning Roe v. Wade.
The Center for American Progress concludes: “A solid wall of public opposition currently stands in the way of abortion rights opponents’ plans to turn back the clock and criminalize abortion as it was before 1973—a wall that is unlikely to come down anytime soon.”
I will continue to apply intellectual rigor and critical thinking to the range of important issues that our nation faces. I will not, however, choose ideology over integrity or place partisanship before principle. Furthermore, I will not succumb to fear-mongering strategies from any Party or candidate.
These Obama followers have already shown how little they respect women.
They further do not understand how legal abortion laws work.
Their scare tactics do not work for the informed.
That may be his belief, but what can he do about it? Absolutely nothing.
Presidents can not issue executive orders to declare a SUpreme Court decision overturned. the Supreme Court can not on its own motion declare a priro decision as overturned or sui sponte issue a new decision overturning a prior decision. These are legal and procedural impossibilities.
Roe v Wade has already been re-affirmed by the Supreme Court in Planned Parenthood v Casey. Note that the majority opinion was written by Sandra Day O’Connor and joined by Anthony Kennedy, both Republicans appointed by Reagan. Conservative justices historically are more beholden to stare decisis and strict construction of the constitution upholding individual rights (Kennedy wrote the opinion upholding the right of habeas corpus for enemy combatants) and less concerned of the political winds of popular opinion.
O’Connor’s not on the Court anymore and Kennedy said that women don’t understand the dangers of abortion so states can pursue further restrictions.
Take a look at the Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito and you’ll see VERY little concern for stare decisis.
That’s a notion they don’t care about terribly much. The days of Republican judges who had those concerns is GONE.
What part of Roe v Wade has already been confirmed and reinforced do you not understand. It. Is. Going. Nowhere.
BOBO’s change we can believe in includes the old old fringe politics of fear, rebranded.
The only thing I Fear as a woman is HIM in charge of America.
Oh I see, Thats why he fought VIGOROUSLY FOR Ginsburg’s appointment to SCOTUS. Listen you moron Rep’s have had a majority for over 9 yrs. Nothing has changed, Roe vs Wade is a done deal.
McCain didn’t fight vigorously for Ginsberg. Just not true. And as I said, the kind of judges picked by Republicans like O’Connor, Souter and even Kennedy, will NEVER be picked again.
I watched that fight on CSPAN, who should I beleive, you or my lyin eyes?
And who gave you a crystal ball that you already know the furure.
What an ass!
I would vote for a cockroach before I would vote for Barack Obama.
Hope this clears things up.
Mike S,
B-. Good try, but lacking in intellectual and moral integrity.
It is undeniable that McCain is anti-abortion rights. Obama’s recent shift in policy, which excises a woman’s psychological state from her overall health consideration, moves him towards McCain’s position, and away from the policies of NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Commentary in mainstream media, such as by the legal correspondent for ABCnews, and in law blogs, state this fact unequivocally. I have no reason to distrust their analysis.
If one selects a candidate based only on abortion rights, and given that Obama’s position is finally stable, then he would be the better choice.
This said, uncivil BOILS, like Mike S, who say those who disagree with them are fools, deserve the LANCE of public opinion. The juvenile logic of one who views the complexity of politics through the lens of one issue is transparent in his statement:
“So stop with the wailing because you have already proven that you don’t give a damn about legal abortions. You support the man who will work to over turn all of them.”
Those of us who care about abortion choice also care about a host of other issues. We are stuck with a Sophie’s choice, given only Obama and McCain. In other words, we are forced to choose from a set of bad choices. People must choose based on who they see as less bad.
A good percentage of people find the Obama campaign lacking in integrity. They see Obama as the evil of two lessers, rather than McCain, whom others see as that evil. Given the overall potential evil they see in these two, strong abortion rights advocates can morally justify choosing McCain, if he is better than Obama on a host of other issues of importance. Accordingly, the claim that to support McCain is to be against abortion rights is embarrassingly false.
Steven
P.S. Mike. It is difficult to overturn (undo) an abortion, but one can overturn abortion rights.
Rolling my eyes here. Never come here on behalf of Obama and mention integrity. He has NONE.
His candidacy is disturbing on many levels.
At least we get the slight satisfaction of watching his campaign trying to forage in the fields they scorched where Hillary’s supporters once grew.
RvW have been in existence for 34 years, 20 of which has been during Republican rule…why do you think it’s going anywhere in 2008? Please, get a clue.
zzzzzzzzzz….
Give it a rest. It’s not going to work.
Ronald Reagan was going to “ban abortions.” So was the first GW Bush. For four years we had an Evangelical Republican President with a GOP House, Senate and SCOTUS– and abortion rights weren’t changed.
So please- just shut up. Again, it’s not going to work.
Hillary or McCain ‘08
LIE, LIE EVERYWHERE A LIE, blocking up the scenery breaking my mind. la la la,,
he believes IT IS A STATES RIGHTS MATTER
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this TRUTH brought to you by a PUMA DEM FOR MCCAIN
Obama has a lifetime rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood of 100%. McCain’s is ZERO.
That’s a huge difference!
This is not the only issue we are concerned with! barky may pass your naral test be he fails all my other tests.
Obama is a liar.
What are you really worried about? McCain is only one person and can’t dictate his desires by will, it has to be approved by the Dem held US congress.
What you are really worried is that the spineless group of Dem party fuck ups (known as congress people) can’t even keep a war criminal like Dubya and his 27% approval rating in line, let alone someone like McCain who will probably have a 55% approval rating going into the WH in 2009.
Not. Relevent. What part of this do you not understand? Roe v. Wade is a DONE DEAL.
NARAL is a fool. Their membership rose up against them. The only organization having a more difficult time raising money than Democrats is NARAL.
I hope whatever Obama promised them for their support balances out the loss of membership donations.
It’s moot.
You just don’t get it do you? We aren’t falling for this shit any longer and we are not going to support the biggest misogynist to ever run for president in our lifetimes.
It became MOOT to me last January when I heard those silly Obama Girl wanna-bes on TV saying
women’s issues are old news and weren’t relevant in their lives- it’s their mother’s and grandmother’s issue. They had no kinship to Hillary, no alliance. It was all about
the empty suit. Well, now it’s their turn. Let them work to gain back their rights as hard as they worked for Nobama. Because for sure his misogynist campaign set woman back half a century!
Lifetime rating on HALF a term.
When he had a chance to vote in the STATE legislature, he voted all right.
PRESENT.
Wuss.
BWAAHAAA
NARAL!!!!
BWAAHAAAAA
To tell you the truth, I don`t think men should even have a vote on this subject.
I’d bet the farm that men wouldn’t support a law, much less allow women equal say on how that law should be written, on whether they should be forced to get a vasectemy in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies!
OUCH!!
ha, ain’t that the truth!! That’s why abortions will never be illegal. Besides there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy and there is even a morning after pill.
AMEN!!!!!! It has always amazed me to watch a bunch of guys talk about how I should handle my uterus.
they won’t overturn it, there would be too many men having to pay child support and we all know how much they like to pay that!
Double Ouch!!
We need to pass some nice new women-initiated laws about “gelding”–that’ll make ‘em sit up and grab their crotches like Michael Jackson!
I’m sure that the female majority in this country might be persuaded to enact some DEBALLING laws for guys who fuck around too much and don’t pay up for the babies they make, fuck around and willfully transmit communicable diseases, prance around raping people, that sort of thing.
Let’s get out the BIG knife and remove that unsocial “instrument,” why don’t we? It’s rather like