Merkel to Obama: Willkommen Sie nach Berlin aber keine Massenversammlungen Danke
By Charles Lemos on July 8, 2008 at 8:45 PM in Barack Obama, Germany
To Obama, all the world is a stage, hence a stadium in Denver or the Bradenburg Gate seem fitting backdrops to his delusions of grandeur. Misanthrophic is the word that comes to mind. Contemptuous is another. However, the Germans do not seem to be willing to play his games.
Via Germany’s Der Spiegel:
Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama is expected to visit Germany and Berlin in just two weeks time. But officials with Angela Merkel’s Chancellery are reserved about the prospects of a speech at the famous Brandenburg Gate.
United States presidential candidate Barack Obama is planning to visit Berlin in two weeks. “The date appears to be set for July 24,” a German government source told SPIEGEL ONLINE. Both German Chancellor Angela Merkel of the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier of the Social Democrats (SPD) are expected to hold talks in the German capital with Obama.
“They want to get better acquainted with him,” the source said.
However, the source, who asked not to be named, was reserved about the prospects of Obama holding a speech before the Brandenburg Gate.”
“The Brandenburg Gate is the most famous and history-rich site in Germany,” the Chancellery source said. In the past, the location has only been used on very special occasions for political speeches by world leaders. And it has been reserved for use only by elected American presidents, not candidates. The decision on whether the Democrat can speak at the location ultimately lies with the Berlin state government. Chancellery officials are concerned that the Brandenburg Gate could be turned into an “arbitrary stage” that other campaigns could also seek to use in the future.
It’s a traditional practice for US presidential candidates to visit Germany before the election. However, the source pointed out that agreements can only be made with elected presidents. The source also noted that a the German federal government would also be equally pleased to play host to a visit by Republican candidate John McCain. The door is just as open for him, the source said.
Nuremberg is probably a better fit any way.
Kennedy Ich bin eine Berliner
I am a donut
barky Ich bin eine Waffel
I am a waffle
Nicely done.
And no, we are NOT all waffles now.
I went to high school in Germany and Kennedy’s speech is a punch line in world history classes.
Can’t imagine what they would say about barky.
Likely something fitting, and unprintable.
Charles, I just wanted to tell you that your piece yesterday (I think it was yesterday) was fantastic, as usual.
Keep up the good fight, brother!
The work that is done here at NQ is critical for all of us PUMAs.
In 1963, John Kennedy said “Ich bin stoltz darauf dass ich bin ein berliner” translated literally means “I am proud that I am a hard roll.” The correct form would be “einer Berliner” which is meaningless to Americans (like Obama) who are famous for their ignorance of foreign languages.
What Waspish part of America do you live in? Where I live, it is very multilingual. In one day I can hear Spanish, Italian, Russian, Polish, French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Hindu, and even British and Irish English spoken, all by US citizens.
Those full of various languages are immigrants and not native born children being raised in multi-lingual educational schools.
As an American who took the 2 years of Deutsch I always laughed my ass off on such mistakes, especially on the world stage. It only humanized Kennedy more by being imperfect and not this god-like figure the media fantasized about with Camelot.
I’m native born, my parents are native born and I although I forgot most of my Latin, I do have conversational and reading ability in Italian, which is self taught, and in German, which I studied in HS and university. My wife is native born, her parents are native born and she has conversational and reading ability in French and Greek.
Kennedy was humanized by his little mistake because he was also a humble man. He was awarded the Purple Heart in WWII and wrote in his book that he was embarrassed to receive it because he lost his ship. Great men achieve greatness through their actions, they do not claim it as their own.
HARP
In Germany a berliner is a delightful donut covered with sugar and filled with your choice of several types of fillings usually jellies, but some have cream cheese or chocolate fillings.
YUM
I heard the translation from Eddie Izzard. He said if JFK had said that in Hamburg, he would have said he was a Hamburger
hungry now!!!
Actually, I think it would be, “Ik bin Berliner”.
HARP, you might want to get a refund from the people who “taught” you German.
Kennedy’s statement was (and still is) grammatically correct.
Furthermore, according to http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_berliner_2.htm
Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff did his best to lay decades of misinformation to rest in 1993 with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy’s statement in the academic journal Monatshefte. “‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ is not only correct,” Eichhoff wrote, “but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say.”
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, “Ich bin Berliner.” But that wouldn’t have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article “ein” is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin.
To give another example, the German sentences “Er ist Politiker” and “Er ist ein Politiker” both mean “He is a politician,” but they are understood by German speakers as different statements. The first means, more exactly, “He is (literally) a politician.” The second means “He is (like) a politician.” You would say of George W. Bush, “Er ist Politiker.” But you would say of an organizationally astute coworker, “Er ist ein Politiker.”
So, it would certainly behoove some people to fucking do some damn research before they prove their own ignorance.
Incidentally, from the aforementioned website comes this additional bit of information
The translator
The man who actually translated the words into German for JFK is was Robert Lochner, the son of Associated Press correspondent Louis P. Lochner. The younger Lochner, educated in Berlin and a fluent speaker of German, was Kennedy’s official interpreter on his visit to Germany. Lochner translated the phrase on paper then rehearsed it with JFK in Berlin Mayor Willy Brandt’s office right up to the moment the speech was to be delivered.
but seriously HARP, you´re confabulating. “hard roll” doesn´t mean “Berliner”. “einer Berliner” doesn´t make sense in german. And yes: Ignorance of my language doesn´t bother me at all as long as it comes from a country whose brave MILITARY INTERVENTION safed my “Vaterland” from itsself.
Peter, Berlin
but seriously HARP, you´re confabulating. “hard roll” doesn´t mean “Berliner”. “einer Berliner” doesn´t make sense in german. And yes: Ignorance of my language doesn´t bother me at all as long as it comes from a country whose brave MILITARY INTERVENTION safed my “Vaterland” from itsself.
Peter, Berlin
Perfect!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKc6UMfZW6U
Bush & Merkel having a pilsner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGwORpJs96E
Bush/Merkel Remix
Too bad we can’t get a real Budweiser beer in America. I guess you would have to go to Budweiss for that.
Drinking beer makes you smart you know? It made Bud wiser.
Go here to vote no on the Invesco tickets please.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/
Ha, ha, 78% voted that they will NOT try to get tics to see Obama….
And it has been reserved for use only by elected American presidents, not candidates.
Not even candidates with their own fake presidential seal.
Merkel and Bush are very chummy. I am sure he suggested to her not to allow Obama speak at the Brandenburg Gate during their recent meeting at the G8.
Helmut,
I found this at TimesOnline:
Barack Obama’s Berlin visit sparks German diplomatic row.
http://tinyurl.com/6dxylp
The Brandenburg Gate is the best known and most historically significant site in Germany,” said a Chancellery official, explaining why until now only elected presidents have been allowed to perform there.
So the Government would dearly like Mr Obama to find another platform, perhaps the town hall in the district of Schoeneberg where Kennedy expressed his solidarity with West Berlin. Almost everywhere else in the capital has unfortunate historical associations; the Olympic Stadium (where Hitler was enraged by the success of the black athlete Jesse Owens in the 1936 Games) has, for example, been ruled out.
Technically the decision lies with the Berlin Mayor, a flamboyant, openly gay Social Democrat, who quite relishes the idea of irritating the conservative Chancellor. The toing and froing between the various seats of power in Berlin is thus likely to continue until the last minute.
Wow, didja catch this part from ]
the linked article in there:
Indeed, support in Germany for Obama is broad. A poll taken by German pollster Emnid for publication in the Bild am Sonntag newspaper this weekend found that 74 percent of Germans said that if they could cast a ballot in the US election, they would vote for the presumptive Democratic Party nominee. Only 11 percent said they would vote for his Republican Party contender, John McCain.
They really like all that stagecraft and big productions, Hitler invented all that stuff. I can see why the Germans like him, reminds them of old times.
“I can see why the Germans like him, reminds them of old times.”
Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
Me too. Miss Hitler, do ya?
that is totally meaningless. The German press is doing a lot of fluff pieces on Obama, as is everyone else, that builds popularity. But so what, that is like a beauty contest poll. It would be like us saying who we would vote for in the next German election, the person getting the press coverage in the US or the person that is hardly mentioned.
Why should they be any different from the MSM in the US? They are just finally starting to look at him objectively.
Yea, I’m sure they’re really up on all the critical domestic issues in the US. Global media is just that–global. It’s all show biz folks, and Barky is the new American Idol. Too bad it doesn’t have anything to do with actual qualifications or statecraft. Britney for president!
When you have no resume or accomplishments, you have to rely on theatrics. I’m not sure what is more pathetic, BaJoke himself or the rubes that lap up the milk he serves them.
Famous quote time:
Great liars are also great magicians.
Adolf Hitler
Nice stuff.
“For my next trick, I will fool a bunch of moronic sheep people into supporting an anti-white spiritual mentor-having, flip-floppity bozo from America’s most corrupt city for President.”
Obama’s 35 “Not Exactly’s” only a few are posted here.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027844/posts
1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma’ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
Remember Barky’s seal? It’s Baaack!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/07/08/obama-still-using-variation-presidential-seal
This man is truly a sociopath.
KEY PROTEST
Protest Obama–let him, the DNC, and the rest of America that we say NO DEAL!!
HOW:
Hold your key ring in your hand, above your head and shake it if you want
WHY:
This is an original not yet branded synbolic gesture that our group can ‘own’ and make its trademark.
Also–it travels well, they can’t id you before you protest, and maybe just maybe you can become a backdrop on stage for Obama and hold your keys up behind him for the world to see
Why the KEY?
1. We Hillary voters are KEY to Dems win
2. Hillary won the KEY states
3. Obama lacks character and courage. McCain is afraid of the sound of keys because his Viet guards’ keys would rattle as they came to torture.
Spread the Word PLEASE
agent: write an article for it on your blog with some pix, and we can link it that way.
Barak Obama - 50 Lies and Counting: Posted on Political forum.com - Elections and Campaigns .
1.) ‘Selma Got Me Born’ - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma didn’t occur until 1965.
2.) ‘Father Was A Goat Herder’ - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the socialistic Kenyan Government.
3.) ‘Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter’ - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) ‘My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom’ - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attemp ting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) ‘M y Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian’ - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) ‘My Name is African Swahili’ - LIAR, your name is Arabic and Baraka (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) ‘I Never Practiced Islam’ - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) ‘My School In Indonesia was Christian’ - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making silly faces. (check your own book).
9.) ‘I Was Fluent In Indonesian’ - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) ‘Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience’ - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons?
11.) ‘I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs’ - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) ‘I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion’ - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine…you merely chose to do drugs.
13.)’An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office’ - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) ‘A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life’ - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
1 5.) ‘I Won’t Run On A National Ticket’ in ‘08’ - LIAR, here you are, despite s aying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) ‘Voting Present rather than Yes or No is Common In Illinois’ - LIAR, That is common for YOU, but not many others have 130 ‘Present’ votes which means you wouldn’t commit yourself because you didn’t want the voters to know the real you and where you stood on the issues!
17.) ‘Oops, I Misvoted’ - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your so-called ‘misvote’.
18.) ‘I Was A Professor Of Law’ - LIAR, you were only a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) ‘I Was A Constitutional Lawyer’ - LIAR, you were only a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) ‘Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill’ - LIAR, you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) ‘The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass’ - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) ‘I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill’ - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of the money you took from your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axe lrod came.
23.) ‘I Have Released My State Records’ - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) ‘I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess’ - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) ‘My Economics Bill Will Help America’ - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) ‘I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois’ - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have never seen any BOLD action on your part.
27.) ‘I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year’ - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) ‘No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA’ - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) ‘I Am Tough On Terrorism’ - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel and another friend el Hadi(sp?) was stopped by the Federal Government from collecting and sending donations to the terrorist group Hamas…now he is raising money for you and lists your wife Michelle as a supporter of his and she lists him as one of her friends. Also you and your wife are known co-horts of the man and wife ‘Weather-Underground’ hippie pair who admitted killing people and bombing several federal buildings back in the late sixties or early seventies. The man has written a book saying he and his wife only wish they had done more killings and bombings!
30.) ‘I Am Not Acting As President Yet’ - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) ‘I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida’ - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) ‘I Won Michigan’ - LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) ‘I won Nevada ‘ - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) ‘I Want All Votes To Count’ - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) ‘I Want Americans To Decide’ - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) ‘I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate’ - LIAR, you only passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) ‘My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend’ - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) ‘I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics’ - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) ‘I Don’t Take PAC Money’ - LIAR, you have taken loads of it.
40.) ‘I don’t Have Lobbyists’ - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) ‘My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad’ - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) ‘My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace’ - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) ‘I Inspire People With My Words’ - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) ‘I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate’ - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) ‘I Have Always Been Against Iraq’ - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be gutting you, Obama.
46.) ‘I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care’ - LIAR, your plan leaves all of us working taxpayers to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) ‘I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail’ - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) ‘I Am As Patriotic As Anyone’ - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem… because you have said ‘you didn’t want to offend muslims and others who don’t like America ‘!
49.) ‘My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country’ - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America .
50.) ‘Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support’ - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
You are making up stuff and cherry picking.
But it’s cool when you do the same?
If he’s making it up, then refute it—point by point.
I shouldn’t have to. It’s just smears. You can go to Fight the Smears and read all about it.
Believe DO YOU EVER KNOW WHEN TO STOP !!!!PLEASE…………..STOP..JUST STOP……
Believe thinks that we should take his word for it when he denounces the report of Obama’s lies. What a silly notion. Obama is known to be a liar. The “burden of proof” here is on Believe … or Obama.
Why should he go to fight the smears? you’re the one claiming he’s making stuff up. Oh and like we would believe obama’s own site. He’s the one that told the lies in the first place.
I thought you got fired. Go away.
You are just an uniformed, braiwashed stooge. If you are going to accuse the onus is on YOU to provide EVIDENCE.
I shouldn’t have to. It’s just smears. You can go to Fight the Smears and read all about it.
I hate to tell you this, but politics is a dirty business. If you can’t take the heat, then (well, you know the rest of the old saying)…
No one has the stomach to go there. If you don’t like what was written, then YOU refute it, point by point. If not, then just LEAVE. No one here is impressed by you. You’re just more of the same and the reason we’ve left other boards. We aren’t impressed by vacant-eyed worshipers of a faux messiah.
Let’s see if I have this right:
Give us a break. We have no desire to hear anything you have to say. Go back to whatever filthy internet hole you crawled out of, and report that you made no headway here.
You won’t change our minds. You won’t be able to make a soul here vote for your messiah. You’re wasting your time.
51) Lary Sinclair? I don’t know him. LIAR
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY
Hillary Clinton would also be 74%. Paris Hilton would be 74%, and so on.
I think it is just to do with getting rid of the Bush era, nothing more. If John McCain was not a Repug he too would get 74%.
Current list, and still counting, in the pantheon of Obama’s broken promises:
I could never disown Reverend Wright.
I’ll filibuster any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies.
I’ll take public financing for my campaign.
I’ll meet with Ahmadinejad without preconditions.
I’ll hammer Mexico and Canada to renegotiate NAFTA under threat of unilateral abrogration.
I won’t use that presidential seal again.
Next, he’ll want to visit Vatican City and make a speech from St. Peter’s Basilica.
He an borrow the POPE MOBILE for a few million bucks.
unfortunately, you’re probably right. snark
ROFLMAO!!!!
F the Germans…if it weren’t for them we wouldn’t have had Hitler which would mean no Israel which would mean no perpetual problem in the middle east
Study history and come back. Boy this is a stupid remark.
How long were you in the joint?
no attacks please
Get this part straight. You say something stupid here and your politically correct ass will be chewed spindled and mutilated. When some doofus comes here and starts talking about Israel being the problem, I will call him, you and any other sonofabitch who says so, a fucking asshole.
What numbnuts said was the type of shit people who do time are want to hear. If you lack the deductive skills to intuit a possible location for his stilted, bigoted remark to have spawned, come ahead.
Otherwise, get your wimp ass back to Sesame Street.
Candy ass
I also hate it when people blame Israel for the crap that goes on in the Middle East. Those people have been fighting there forever.
That’s right Tampa
Israel and Iraq are US allies to protect the Gulf States.
Obama courts Israel’s enemies such as Hamas.
Obama wished for defeat in Iraq.
Obama wants to make friends with the terrorists.
Obama sits on his hands and wishes for defeat!
this inflated plan for the brandenburg gate and the stadium in denver, is remarkable in it’s monumental hubris. and not a little stupefying.
but the new kind of changey- thingy in germany is more outright scary. kind of like a global proportion to the coup. all one world hopey-pony leader kind of snapshot.
you just can’t trust that Soros gang as far as you can throw them.
i want Democracy back. somebody has absconded with it, and i’m getting a little pee’d off here.
The beginning point of ONE WORLD ORDER and the national ID card
Obama’s Germany speech
brought to you by Bilderberg
Kids-I beg of you-put down the kool aide and come on over here. The water is safer.
New World Order
yep
pride goeth before the fall
HILLARY WILL BE POTUS
For the record, there is no complete audio tape of Obama’s 2002 anti-war speech. Chicago journalists who attended the rally reported not a single word about what he said. The only way we know what Obama claims he said is because a few weeks after he gave the speech, he submitted an article to the local Hyde Park rag, in which he wrote a few weeks ago I gave a speech and here’s what I said. Seeing as words matter, its surprising that the speech which Mrs Clinton claimed was his only claim to be President …does NOT exist in its original form on a tape. Seemingly he re-created the speech to use in his campaign ads, and crowds noise sound effects were added.
That said here’s what he claimed he said in the local Hyde Park rag
..
.Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
But on July 2 2005 addressing an environmental group, at the Aspen Institute Obama rewrote history as follows:
“When I was running, in the fall of 2002 … I said this is a bad idea. It certainly wasn’t because I didn’t think Saddam Hussein was a bad guy. I specifically said in a speech in Chicago, it was about six months before the war, I said, I’m not on the federal intelligence committee, but I don’t see any serious weapons of mass destruction. I don’t see Saddam connected to Al Qaida. This is going to cost billions of dollars and thousands of lives… and I think I’ve been pretty restrained in not saying, I told you so….”
Surely someone can see the actual HydePark rag article. I would like to see that. Verbatim. I am really suspicious of what NObama actually wrote and said. It is odd that this speech would be the one and only time NObama has exhibited judgement that is not screwey. So I am suspicious of his having given a speech of real insight.
Perhaps the speech was really given in “hindsight” it is 20/20 you know.
oof
I gave a speech last year. Let me see, how did it go? Oh yes, four score and seven years ago.
Why is it I hear a soundtrack behind everything Obama says - and it’s Three Dog Night’s “Liar!”
speaking of KEYS.
Here ya go. For all those lurkers wanting to change your mind and become an informed PUMA (people united means action)
“The problem is all inside your head”, she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically.
I’d like to help you in your struggle to be free.
There must be fifty ways to leave your lover (Obama)
Slip out the back Jack
make a new plan Stan
Don’t need to be coy Roy
Just listen to me.
Hop on the bus Gus
Don’t need to discuss much.
Just drop off the keys and leave.
And set yourself FREE
- Paul Simon
PUMA HELL NO we won’t vote OBAMA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=91euERWH2M4
Another reason I think the fix might be in because if Bush and the US government didn’t want Obama to speak at the Brandenberg Gate, the word would be sent through diplomatic channels to quash the idea of Nobama making that speech. Bush should not allow Nobama to upstage Mccain if that is really what the Republicans and Bush and the “powers that be” want. It is strange that it would be allowed by Germany, Merkel and Bush. Very Very strange!!!
maybe the next 4 years as Pres is a ‘hot potato’ that neither the Dems nor Repub powers that be want to win.
Its going to be a tough couple of years and whoever gets the reins will be blamed for most of it.
Maybe the attitude is, let the black man take it and the blame..
good grief. let’s hop Bush and Co. squash this idea like a pesky little gnat!
what a farce and moreover, what a f*^&ing idiot!
Who the hell thinks of doing these things. A madman, that’s who! Axelrod has officially gone over the edge folks. Get him some haldol (sp?) and fast. He’s beginning to believe that he truly is Oz.
I have a question.
If Hillary were to be nominated at the Convention on August 28, there would only be 8 weeks until the general election.
She basically would have only 8 weeks to get her campaign up and staffed, choose a VP and campaign across the entire country.
Election day needs an enormous ground game to get the vote out. Could Hillary get enough people in place in time? Her track record on ground game during the primary was not a good one as far as building the state party infrastructures from the ground up.
Add to this that all of the local and state politicians who had been campaigning for Obama would have to switch gears, lose face with voters, and say - oops - it’s Hillary now.
It seems like the convention is just too late. For a switch to Hillary to work, it would have to occur early. Much earlier than August 28. Today is July 8.
The staff is ready to go, you can rest assured.
Voters are in place, Plan in place, she’s all set..she has the states needed to win and the Repub women still waiting to vote for her for the first time all across USA to add to her voting bloc. She will have a landslide victory.
the Hillraisers are ret to go!!
BOOYAH!!!
I told you the Germans would see through this.
They make sure all generations are taught the terrible history of WWII. They don’t make excuses or try to hide it.
Except of course for a few hard core whack jobs. Every country has those.
If this is a privilege normally reserved for a sitting President how did Obama pull this off? That takes a lot of clout from powerful people.
Remember, JFK actually served in WWII. Even if he hadn’t been President most people would not have found his receiving permission odd.
Amazing how a relatively unknown, non-veteran, junior Senator could pull that off.
Soros and Co.
Exactly!
Obama is way too much. He wants to be president of the USA–which is too much alone…but that fool thinks he will be king of the world and God of planet Eart