Pollster Douglas Schoen at the Aspen Ideas Festival
By Charles Lemos on July 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM in Barack Obama, John McCain
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Pollster Douglas Schoen releases the results of an exclusive public opinion poll about the hopes and desires of American voters for the 2008 election. A 59 page powerpoint presentation is available for printing at Aspen Ideas Festival. Or you can follow along below:
I strongly urge that you give the 12 minute presentation a full listening. The presentation was given on July 7, 2008.
OT but has anyone else gotten a strange e-mail from Huffington Post called “Off the Bus”? They asked me to join because I was a commenter interested in politics…I haven’t been to Huffy’s in…months and I haven’t commented since December? November? When I was called a racist bitch by Obamabots just for asking for no Dem on Dem violence. WTF?
I got it a few minutes ago. I haven’t commented there for several months, since Obamamania set in.
I tried to remove myself from their lists but couldn’t find a way to do so.
Deleted it before I’d finished reading it.
I got one. I tried three times months ago to comment but was blocked, I think, because I suggested Ariana was presenting an “ad hominem” attack on Hillary which seemed hypocritical since she doesn’t allow “ad hominem” attacks on her bloggers.
I got one too, even though I haven’t visited nor commented on the site in a long time. My theory is that the Wicked Witch of the West (aka Arianna…her “sister,” the Wicked Witch of the East, is Maureen Dowd, of course) has lost a whole lot of site traffic and this is an attempt to lure back people–she’s probably trying to sell Huff’n'Puff for muy dinero but has to prove her site is busy. Don’t go; continue to boycott!
I got one and responded that I didn’t go to their site any longer because of how badly the Obama supporters treated me…and I would not help their cause in any way.
Than I unsubscribed.
I dropped my subscription months ago because they stopped posting my comments. I sent an email to her at the same time saying allowing only one side to be heard was unproductive aside from the de facto censorship.
Son of a guy — I posted one thing a couple of years ago.
I wonder if they’ve turned our email address over to the Obama cult?
The message was deleted — and I’ll block the sender’s address on my IP’s server.
The only way to stop the DNC from sending you email is to access your email online at your IP server (they often have a way to access your email online) — check to see if you can block email from specific email addresses. I was finally able to stop the (*(*&*&^%^% DNC email!!!
Thanks for the hint — I have repeatedly tried to unsubscribe from DNC and use the silly number they send you to do so but they keep on coming. Guess they feel that harassment is the only option left.
Tried to unsubscribe one from BO this AM and it would not even make an initial connection — either too busy or initial block.
Obama LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES.
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
Yes, great list!
I have my own lie list started here, and it grows almost daily these days:
http://hillarysupportersformccainblog.com/2008/07/04/how-do-i-know-that-barack-obama-is-lying-because-his-lips-are-moving.aspx
This one is a keeper. Thank you.
I also received the email. Could it be this announcement about their plans to raise more venture capital, from last month:
http://news.cnet.com/the-social/?hhTest&keyword=Huffington+Post
“It’s crucial for the Huffington Post to lock down a solid audience, considering it began as a left-leaning political news outlet and some critics have been concerned that it will see a major drop in traffic after the 2008 U.S. election.”
Without half of the democratic party, and none of the republicans, I am sure that they are hurting.
Also, notice that they published their PUMA article today, and they are getting a lot of comments on it from the part of the dem. party that they alienated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-tomasic/hillarys-puma-voters-say_b_111461.html
My theory also (see above); but boycott her site…don’t give her the traffic she needs to make money–not after what she and her minions did…they deserve to fade into nonentity status.
Bella; Only 58? LOL well done!
I will be sending around if you have no objections….
Here is the link, I know you don’t want to go to the site. But I think you will be amazed at the story.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-bamberger/for-the-first-time-in-my_b_111346.html
She does not think she will be able to vote for BHO.
I guess they are off the bus and now are under it.
I have to laugh at the blathering comments at the Huff’n Puff’s Bamberger post re: Roe v Wade.
Even Justice Antonin Scalia has said that it is settled law and he would not overturn it. How much more conservative can you get than him? The Repubs use it to fire up their base and the Obamabots are using it as a scare tactic. Most Republican legislators will say privately, if not publically, that it would never have a chance of being overturned.
YES! I unsubscribed months ago and I received that email in 2 of my inboxes tonight. I unsubscribed both email addresses AGAIN.
Got it also and haven’t been there in quite a while. It’s my understanding that huff & hubby are connected to the bo campaign, so thought it was curious.
Did she marry again?
Same here, re: the HuffPo email
I haven’t been there in 6 months at least and also requested to be unsubscribed.
StrawberrybitesBarky, I received that e-mail,too, and wondered what kind of game Huff is playing these days. I resist going there even via links so in no way qualify as a reader or commenter.
Ditto. As I was deleting it, I said, “You wouldn’t publish MY stuff anyway!”
Still, strange - haven’t been there in a while (and rarely commented anyway)…
Hmmmm. Traffic must be slow there or this is an underhanded way of welcoming us back into the fold…ehew. I just creeped myself out. It will be a cold day in hell before I join the likes of the Undead Believers.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was down. Huffy went through some many wild swings as they moved from free speech to full moderation that made it take a day or so for your posts to print, to partial moderation, to scrubbing all dissenting opinions, to partial moderation with a pinch of the same scrubbing. Those people have acted like such tools that I’d amazing anybody still posts there except for the BOBObraindead. The BOBO brain dead can’t be generating the same amount of revenue that the huge crowd they had pre-primary used to generate.
I haven’t been able to get anything through their comment moderation in months, but I, too, got the email.
McCain wins with this simple phrase..
Country before Party/Country before Self
Obama wished defeat in Iraq and refused to stand when the President told the nation about the success of the surge.
Shame on you!!
If Obama was a patriot of the United States he would of got up and clapped our troops and America’s victory.
Now Obama wants go to Iraq..
We have won the war! Where have you been Obama?
Sitting on your hands wishing for defeat and retreat.
At 4:25 Doug accidentally calls Clark “Janitor Clark.” LMAO. He gets the shit job of slinging Obama’s mud. Doug thought that was a smart move and that Obama handled it well (in Rev. Wright fashion) by distancing himself from the comment but not disowning the person who made it.
So, to you, patriotism means cheering on a stupid war?
How interesting.
that is not what he said…
gosh, your stupid…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I am reading McCain’s biography, “Faith of My Fathers,” and I highly recommend it to anyone thinking about voting for him. His grandfather and father were both 4 star Admirals and exhibited unbelievable courage and ingenuity during WWII. I am not a hawk by any means, but the emphasis is on duty, honor and principles. McCain was raised with that ethos from childhood. He rebelled as a teen and in his early 20’s, but never turned away from that sense o duty and honor. Though I do not agree with his policies, I trust him. And that’s a hell of a lot more than I can say for BO, PLUS he has a miniscule amount of experience compared to McCain.
Lastly, McCain will put Hillary in his cabinet. Bet on it.
McCain turned down his own admiral star to enter the House instead.
It’s just ‘believe’….IGNORE is your best friend when you see a ‘believe’ post. They’re always stupid.
Believe, do you even read peoples posts before you blurt out your ignorance????
Don’t believe–just ignore, and all belief will vanish.
I’m a happy atheist.
Since I’m an American first,
I always cheer our troops when there are victories in a world where the United States protects Western Civilizations vital resources and protecting the world against Islamic terrorism.
The emergence of a Democratic Iraq which allies itself with the West and the United States will lead to stability in the Middle East.
Believe, It takes a thinking mind to understand!
Obama of course cheers the people are fighting but he is not going to be a cheerleader for this stupid war — A war most Americans think is a mistake and which Obama has always opposed.
Believe
I was against the war. I gave the same speech without fear of bringing it to a vote. I was a Deaniac until the scream.
I was against the war for all the crap we have seen.
To be a Leader one must look beyond the past and accept the reality of the present.
The conditions on the ground show that we are succeeding in creating a pro American ally in the region where World Resource Wars seem inevitable
We have a presence in the region which prevents all out world war.
I’m glad that we are in Iraq.
Years from now the Iraq war may even seem like a brilliant strategy for saving the Western World
@ believe: dude, are you stoned?
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Obama was already a cheerleader for the Iraq war when he said he wasn’t sure how he would vote and that his strategy was the same as Bush’s. He then decided not to cheer on our soldiers by avoiding policy meeting on Afghanistan, not visiting Iraq, sitting on his hands during the SOU address and not placing his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance or wearing a flag pin while pandering to the left.
Obama cheers no one but Obama.
It means cheering on the negotiations with the Iraqi government that are happening right now to begin the withdrawal of all foreign troops and leaving a free stable internationally recognized Iraqi government in its place, one that is at peace with its neighbors, including Israel.
Israeli and Iraqi foreign ministers have had their first warm cordial handshake that rocked the Arab world, it was widely reported in the Arab press. UAE has announced it will forgive Saddam era debt and open an embassy in Baghdad. The Saudis are expected to soon follow.
Time to go home now.
Your homework tonight Believe..
Foreign Policy…..You don’t know squat!!
It’s an absolute state of denial when what is being widely reported is ignored or ridiculed because it goes against all the pre-canned bullet points.
Honestly, that is awesome news.
Since turning off the tv, I’ve missed a lot of news. My time has been spent on learning and watching this campaign season.
That said, I sincerely hope peace lies ahead for our brothers and sister in Iraq. If it’s possible, I’d embrace it.
Patriotism is supporting our troops and loving our country no matter what. Of course, I wouldn’t expect anyone such as yourself to grasp this nugget of information.
Go back to supporting your candidate (who pathetically touts around a fake certificate).
I got the same HuffPo Email.
Listening to Randi Rhodes today, I got an earful of everything that’s wrong with what is currently calling itself the “Democratic Party.” First, Rhodes goes on and on AND ON about how amazing it is that Obama will be able to fill a 75,000 seat auditorium, and that “John McCain couldn’t do that!”
Um, Randi? Who gives a fuck? If being able to fill a stadium is a qualification for President, shouldn’t we be electing Tom Brady or Bruce Springsteen?
Second, Rhodes talks about the difficulty some people are having trying to get “backstage passes” to the Big Obama Event. “That’s the biggest problem we have with our candidate, difficulty in getting backstage passes..if that’s the only problem we have, that’s not a bad problem…”
Again- umm, Randi? The biggest problem we have with our candidate is that he is an unprincipled, corrupt, flip-flopping sexist windbag with ties to a racist church, domestic terrorists and slumlords. Backstage passes? Grow the hell up, PLEASE!
I think huffpo is trying to get us to come back. Ain’t gonna happen.
Why bother listening to that f-ing wh*re Randi Rhodes?
I’ve heard from the HuffyPuffyPosties as well. This is the text of the Huffington Post email I received this evening.
Hi,
It’s the electoral race of the century. Political maps are being redrawn, and rules are getting rewritten across the board. Fundraising records have been broken. The candidates are even comparing the sizes of their email lists.
The mainstream media is tripping over itself to report on every last press release and campaign announcement. But do any of us REALLY know what’s going on?
With you helping from the frontlines, the Huffington Post can change campaign coverage. OffTheBus is HuffPost’s citizen-powered and -produced election site, and we’re depending on readers like you to tip us to what’s going on or, better yet, to write up the stories you think should be covered.
WOULD YOU HELP US? JOIN HUFFINGTON POST’S OFFTHEBUS.
Click here to sign up.
Chances are you’re a political junkie. That’s why you got involved in HuffPost’s community as a commenter. But why stop there?
By becoming a member of HuffPost’s OffTheBus, you can publish op-eds and news stories to the Huffington Post. You get first-hand access to editors. The best citizen reporting is cross-posted to the politics page and homepage. Or, you can jump into our collaborative reporting assignments, like our Superdelegate Investigation or OffTheBus Party Map.
GET PUBLISHED AT HUFFINGTON POST.
Click here to sign up for OffTheBus.
Last October OffTheBus members dropped in on Sen. Barack Obama’s Nationwide Canvassing Day from more than two dozen locations. Hours later every observer independently relayed to us that the economy, not the war, was the voting issue. Twenty-four hours later we reported on the significance of the economy, beating the mainstream media to the punch by a few weeks.
As our numbers grow, the same collaborative reporting model that got HuffPost’s OffTheBus the scoop on the economy may tell us a lot more about what’s happening nationwide.
YOU GAME? JOIN HUFFPOST’S OFFTHEBUS.
Click here to sign up.
Best,
The OffTheBus team — Amanda, Marc, and John
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/off-the-bus
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Links
Superdelegate Investigation
OffTheBus Party Map
Face it. She’s a drunk that has Limbaugh-contract-envy. Probably drives her crazy that Rush has a 9 figure contract and she can barely stay on the radio with her raving bitch persona.
Rhodes will never grow up — she blew out her brain with cocaine as did Obama.
She is a narcissistic personality — just like Obama.
Al Franken is also a useless loser.
I hope the Repubs listen to Schoen’s presentation and take heed of his advice. While I’m not an enthusiastic supporter of McCain, he is a million times better bet for America than Backtrack Obama.
As if McCain hasn’t flip flopped many, many times!
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html
Barry smoked crack cocaine and had gay sex with Larry Sinclair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
Hey Believe
wouldn’t you want gay sex if you were married to Michelle Obama?
Tee Hee !!!
I Believe !! I Believe !!
and he is STILL a hundred times better than the guy that went to a racist church for 20 years, is friends with Ayers, Rezko and Auchi
and you know what?
mccain is still 100% a better person, president and leader than obama…
and the icing on the cake is he isn’t part of the slimey sleazy chicago machine…
you can’t scare anyone away from mccain when obama is the only other option…
ha ha…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
It’s not about being scared. That’s the kind of thing Republicans do - try to get people scared.
yeah, that’s why an Obama Superdelegate told us that if we don’t support Obama, the US will become a fascist police state and “they” will come and get us in the night.
Because REPUBLICANS try to get people scared.
I will never vote for Obama no matter what you spam here.
Hillary or McCain
Go PUMA!
I agree go PUMA!
if any puma/no deal members are from missouri..even kansas, please email nomeansnobama at hotmail.com. we’re trying to get our group together asap.
McCain took years to change his positions. LOL BOBO took the month of June.
I think what we’re seeing now IS the real Barak Obama.
What he projected in the primary was just the ruse to get the Kos lefties to support him to win the nomination.
The BEFORE was the lie.
Thank you for staying on topic. I think the presentation is accurate as of right now. In politics, nothing is static. Events happen but of as right now, Obama is leading and Schoen’s presentation, I think, offers reasons why.
Again, thanks for staying on topic.
Charles
McCain’s Spanish language ad doesn’t pass a basic fact check:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/errors_en_espantildeol.html
And his new ad which features hippies uses the slogan of the British Conservative Party from over 30 years ago:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/07/dont-hope-for-1.html
And before you post “examples” of Obama doing similar things, keep this in mind — If the public thinks they both shade the truth, the attack of one against the other for shading the truth won’t have any impact. There’s already one CNN poll that showed that they think both candidates spin. This sort of thing will just reinforce that.
Can you ask that schmuck Axelrod to send his propaganda to us directly and not through you
ha ha ha osbama…..that was funny!
I got it too, but I will ignore it since I haven’t gone food shopping yet this week, and I am currently out of kool-aid.
anyone else here think that Believe and BillAndHillary would be much, much happier at another website?
Or do you guys really enjoy bashing your head against a wall? Because really, you aren’t being productive here at all.
We aren’t voting for Obama.
We aren’t interested in your talking points.
What the Clintons do about Obama simply doesn’t matter.
What the polls say doesn’t matter.
I fail to see what is so hard to understand about what we are saying. WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA!! GET IT????
No, I’m sure you don’t.
You know what, you don’t get to decide where will be happier.
And you don’t get to decide who we vote for. Just because you jump when your Lord and Master snaps his fingers, doesn’t mean we are going to be indoctrinated.
I’m just suggesting you give it a rest. You have nothing original to say. We’ve been dealing with you bleating, uncomprehending dopes since January.
And just as I predicted, you’ll keep coming back to post Obamabot rah-rah BS and think you are accomplishing something. Be my guest, really.
Believe does that mean that Obama is now THE DECIDER ?
Just put some water in front of Obama’s photo and pray to Obama — the water will change into kool/cult aid!
Believe,
Americans see both candidates as flip-floppers (just as they did Hillary Clinton, and Bill before her), but continue to rate Senator Obama more favorably. Obama maintains a 6 point lead average in all polls. As long as he remains likable and the economy is in the tank, Obama will be the next president of the United States.
Wahahahahaah And I believe pigs fly!! wahahahahah
When pigs fly, tampugirl? Sort of like the chorus that insisted Hillary would win in a landslide once the “whitey tape” came out, and later, when that turned out to be a “whitey lie,” that she’d take it to Denver. Pigs fly, huh? Interesting.
It’s not over yet…Don’t be so sure of yourself young one.
The Whitey Tape rumors didn’t surface until late April. Hillary was already winning primaries by landslides then.