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In Obama’s attempt to pander to the evangelical right, once again he offends women by supporting the stereotype that they are frivolous and in need of external control. In an interview with Relevant, a religious magazine, Obama stated:

“…I have repeatedly said that I think it’s entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term. Otherwise, as long as there is such a medical exception in place, I think we can prohibit late-term abortions.”

In a follow-up clarification, after some outside grumblings, Obama did concede that “serious clinical mental health diseases” would qualify, but women should not be able to obtain a late-term abortion just because they are “feeling blue.”

As Marie Cocco of the Washington Post observes, “Obama has backhandedly given credibility to the right-wing narrative that women who have abortions—even those who go through the physically and mentally wrenching experience of a late-term abortion—are frivolous and selfish creatures who might perhaps undergo this ordeal because they are ‘feeling blue.’”

So, Obama is now OK with late-term abortions if the woman’s physical health is in serious jeopardy or if she is stark raving bonkers. However, it is important to point out that the meaning of these critical terms are wobbly and soft. Where is the bright line that demarcates “sufficient” physical or mental illness from “insufficient” levels? No physical or mental health professional or biomedical ethicist worth their salt would even attempt to offer strict definitions that would apply in every individual case. In the final analysis, each situation is unique, defying any imposition of rigorous rules by politicians who are rarely medically sophisticated and who don’t know the women, many of whom are frightened and confused teenagers.

But there is more. Who else did Obama leave out? What about women like Gretchen Voss, a healthy, happily married woman of firm mind, eagerly awaiting an impending birth? Except for one thing. It was discovered late that the fetus had multiple defects so serious that the quality of life would be negligible and the expense of life-long intensive care unbearable. Obama apparently has not considered an agonizing decision that can only be made by the mother, her family, and her medical and religious advisors. Read Gretchen’s poignant story here.

Lynda Waddington was also faced with making this heartbreaking decision, and has this to say about what no man could fully understand:

“On one hand, I’d like nothing better than to take Obama’s hand and force him to walk each and every step of that experience with me. I want him to know the bittersweet feel of a child that will never live outside of the womb against his insides. I want him to wake up in the middle of the night and just for a moment know peace before the reality of what’s taken place comes crashing down again… I want him to feel the nation’s war of words in relation to abortion as personally and as raw as I do. I want him to understand that psychological wounds leave horrific scars.

On the other hand, the dismal truth is that I’m not that cruel. Even if I had the ability to force my memories and my experiences on Obama, even if by doing so I could virtually guarantee that he’d never again utter such an ignorant (at best) or politically-motivated (at worst) response… I couldn’t do it. What I’ve experienced is something I’d never wish, much less willingly give, to another person.” Read Lynda’s full story here.

I don’t know anyone–and I most certainly include myself—who is suggesting that the approximately 1% of all abortions that are performed late term should be casual events. But, this cartoon is more about women and their most personal and difficult life decisions and less about abortion, per se. That issue can be argued in other forums.

A final irony: Another Obama flip-flop! As a Harvard-trained lawyer on record for supporting Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, and as one of 19 co-sponsors of the Freedom of Choice Act, Obama should know that this bill would make both Supreme Court cases federal law and that the majority of Doe allows for physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age to be taken into consideration during any stage of pregnancy. (Read more about Obama’s support for the Freedom of Choice Act here.)

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Comment by secularhumanizinevoluter | 2008-07-10 09:06:02

That about sums it up for this arrogant asswipe dodunit! HE knows when it’s ligit for a woman to have an abortion. I mean, wadafug, he IS the messiah an stuff ain’t he?

 

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:08:16

And where’s the comparison to the other candidate in this race, John McCain?

It’s intellectual dishonest to focus on just one candidate since an election is a CHOICE.

How antichoice is John McCain? Let’s look at his record. In his four years in the House, from 1983 to 1986, he cast eleven votes on reproductive issues. Ten were antichoice. Of 119 such votes in the Senate, 115 were antichoice, including votes for the ban on so-called partial-birth abortions and for the “gag rule,” which refuses funds to clinics abroad that so much as mention abortion. In 1999, the year he said he opposed repeal of Roe on health grounds, he voted against a bill that would have permitted servicewomen overseas, where safe, legal abortion is often unavailable, to pay out of their own pockets for abortions in military hospitals.

His record on contraception and sex education is just as bad. He voted against a 2005 budget amendment, sponsored by Senator Hillary Clinton, that would have allotted $100 million to reduce teen pregnancy by means of education and birth control. He voted to require parental consent for birth control for teenage girls and to abolish Title X, which funds birth control and gynecological care for the poor. He voted against requiring insurance companies to pay for prescription contraception, when they pay for other prescription drugs–like, um, Viagra.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080707/pollitt

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-07-10 09:16:10

Yes, we know this about John McCain. That’s the whole point, “believe”. We don’t know what Obama stands for, because he changes on a whim, or more precisely, to pander for votes.

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:25:11

Bullhockey. He has a 100% lifetime rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood of IL planned strategy with him when he was in the state legislature.

He has a HUGE track record on abortion and it’s consistently, overwhelmingly pro-choice.

He also has a HUGE……….over nevermind. I just want him so bad.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-07-10 09:35:44

FISA, campaign funding, withdrawal from Iraq, etc…
He’ll be pro-life before you know, “believe”. Take off the rose-colored glasses.

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:50:05

Only one of those in the list was there a change, FISA.

His position on Iraq hasn’t changed - He’s said the same thing for a very long time.

And on public financing, he said he would pursue an agreement. He did and McCain offered a crappy deal. I’m proud that he didn’t feel bullied into taking it because someone would criticize him for it.

Comment by WildChild | 2008-07-10 09:55:40

McCain offered a crappy deal? Bwah Ha Ha Ha HA . A real democrat like Hillary Clinton would have made a counter offer and aggressively pursued a deal like any real democrat. LOL BOBO sounds more like a secret shopper then he does a democratic candidate for president.

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:15:58

She’d make a counter offer? In what universe? Certainly not the my-way-or-the-hiway-healthcare universe.

 
 

Comment by stateofdisbelief | 2008-07-10 09:57:36

Uh…believe, just because he repeated his “What she (Hillary) said” mantra throughout every debate does not constitute a consistent position applicable to any idea he wants to ‘refine’ now and at anytime in the future.

It’s clear flip flops are in this summer

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:17:41

What’s clear is that some folks need a both a Thesaurus and a dictionary. And they need to stop pretending that they ever liked him regardless of the postion.

 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-07-10 12:59:52

Go away idiot chauvinist PIG — just like your messiah.

Obamabutts are disgusting semi-life forms.

Go to hell — you MoFos

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 19:45:24

Well, I can see you are MORE than ready this great nation to a better day. Good thing you use a code name. Your ma would wash your mouth with soap if she knew who you were. And tell you you need some better material, too.

 
 
 
 

Comment by grlpatriot | 2008-07-10 09:41:52

So, Obama’s present votes don’t bother you, Believe. Obama is weak for not taking a stand in favor of women’s reproductive freedom. Endorsements and ratings mean nothing in this election as we have seen. If that’s the case then, Obama is also the most liberal in the Senate which is counter to is flips on FISA, et.al. What is the “planned strategy” now, Believe? Enlighten us, please.

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:52:31

Of course the present votes don’t bother me. Planned Parenthood of Illinois asked him to take those votes.

“We worked on the ‘present’ vote strategy with Obama,” said Pam Sutherland, chief lobbyist for the Illinois branch of Planned Parenthood, an abortion rights group. “He was willing to vote ‘no’, and was always going to be a ‘no’ vote for us.”

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti.html

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-07-10 10:21:11

No, he asked Planned Parenthood to give him an “out”. He asked them to accept a “present” vote. He is an unprincipled coward.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-07-10 10:24:05

EXACTLY. I can’t wait to do a post on this horseshit.

The man is a panderer and he couldn’t care LESS about women.

He is a HUGE red flag for women in this country.

Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-10 13:36:01

It’s strange how he hates women when it was his father that abandoned him.

 

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 19:46:41

Except for women who actually pay attention to his record.

 
 

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:26:26

Utterly, entirely wrong. He did not ask - they asked him! He was orignally against it. The record is crystal clear for those who care to look. Not even debatable. And understand - he had an entirely safe seat in supporting abortion. So he could vote yes and you’d be happy now (or you’d probably be dissing him for some other misconceived notion because he isn’t your preferred candidate). But the coalition of Democrats in his state would be weaker, or he’d have a perfect record but Republs would have more votes. But he’d have kept it real

 
 

Comment by josgirl | 2008-07-10 10:28:05

That’s a bs link.
The article is about NOW calling him out about his “present” votes.

“The current president of Illinois NOW, Bonnie Grabenhofer, issued a statement this week accusing Brett Howard of “misleading people and using her very old affiliation with NOW to help distance Senator Obama from his vote of present on key bills.” She said that the Illinois branch of NOW did not support the strategy of voting present, at least as far as the 2001 votes were concerned, and added: “At that time, we made it clear to the legislators that we disagreed with the strategy.”

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:15:50

NOW and Planned Parenthood had different strategies for achieving their goals.

“Obama, however, was in a safe district and never faced a serious challenge for his legislative seat. He had no need to shy from hard-line stands…[Chicago Tribune, Zorn, 3/9/04]

Planned Parenthood’s President point: Anyone Who Thinks A Present Vote Is A “Duck” Doesn’t Understand How the Process Works. “There is a presumption, if one is not familiar with the mechanics of the General Assembly, that a present vote is a ‘duck.’ Pam Sutherland, the CEO and President of Illinois Planned Parenthood said of [this] Hull argument: “I think it’s not well-based…I think it’s somebody who doesn’t understand how the legislative process works.” [Chicago Daily Herald, 3/10/04]

 
 

Comment by tarma | 2008-07-10 11:29:33

The “present” votes might bother you if you consider them within the context of 129 “present” votes. This is not an isolated an strategic choice; it is part of a pattern of avoiding committment on issues. The same is true of his position on Iraq. He marketed himeself as the “anti-war” candidate, stressing his 16 month withdrawel plan in all policy discussions. He trusted that no one was really listening to Samantha Powers when she pointed out that this was not really a “plan”, but more of a “best-case scenario”. He hoodwinked the “progressive”, anti-war folks and now has the arrogance to blame them for “not listening”.
Obama is an OPPORTUNISTIC POLITICAL SOCIOPATH.

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:18:14

Out of what - 4 000? We don’t have the same system in Washington - present votes were often voted for issues where the candidate likes the law but feels it has some flaws that neexd fixing, or even where he authroed the law. There’s a ton of news articles on this.

 
 

Comment by JustSaying | 2008-07-10 11:43:18

CitizenLink: Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Interesting read on how this guy thinks…he makes me sick to my stomach!

 
 

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:21:06

See that’s what annoys me about people who think standing on principal even though your cause is destroyed instead of building the actual political strength to win is what honorable people just have to do. It’s like the political version of “keeping it real,” and that instinct is one reason we don’t have universal health care TODAY

 
 

Comment by C.S. | 2008-07-10 10:39:19

Obama doesn’t have a “record” on abortion because he’s only worked about 180 days in the Senate. I think a better comparison would be Bush’s hours on the job compared to Obama’s hours on the job.

But right now, Obama is “just words” on Iraq (he voted for the spending bills), “just words” on FISA (although he did vote with the Bush position yesterday) and “just words” on abortion (the women-are-to-stupid-to-know-what’s-best-for-them ideology).

If you want a “just words” candidate (usually someone else’s words) vote Barack Obama. Want a Supercandidate vote for Hillary Clinton. Want to mark time until 2016, vote for John McCain.

 

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-07-10 10:45:00

>>> I just want him so bad.
Interesting bit of candor, there.

 
 
 

Comment by grlpatriot | 2008-07-10 09:27:45

Believe, I see that you’ve drawn the No Quarter blog assignment for today. Your job must be really difficult, day after day defending Obama’s lies and flip flops. Talk about intellectual honesty. You cannot even defend Obama anymore can you? All you can do is disrupt and post something about Obama’s opponent.

See, Believe, the real problem is that Hillary is right on all these issues concerning women’s reproductive freedom and we know it. She’s our candidate, our nominee, not the poser Obama who will say anything to anyone to get elected. Is that what you believe in? Do you like to be misled and lied to? Does it make you feel dirty when Obama panders to the far right? Believe, I’m concerned about you.

Comment by wodiej | 2008-07-10 09:28:36

I think they like to feel dirty-the dirtier the better!

 

Comment by AliasJohnDoe | 2008-07-10 10:00:10

I think “believe” likes the NoQuarter assignment draw. Though he finds it difficult to defend his messiah’s lies for meager wages, it’s still better than shining MEchelle’s size 18 Jimmy Choos.

 
 

Comment by Chuck | 2008-07-10 09:51:28

The point for me is that although McCain is not the same McCain we saw in 2000, Obama is not the same guy we saw last month, and will likely be different again next month. Now that he thinks that Dems will have nowhere else to go - and you buy into that, apparently - he’s on a rightward march to sell himself to Republicans unhappy with McCain. Who knows where that will end - or if.

 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-07-10 10:10:59

Believe, give it up. You no longer get people pissed off here. We’re no longer get irritated. You’re just a sad person with no life holding on to straws. Even CNN did a special on how Americans think both candidates suck wind and they feel nothing is going to change under either of them. Now given human nature, given two shitty choices, who do you think people will vote for? HT to Rummy, a shitty known or a shitty unknown. Since we’ve already seen that play out in 2004, my guess would be the shitty known.

 

Comment by clik212 | 2008-07-10 10:28:43

Dear Believe,

The big issue here is that Obama’s nefarious pandering to the right for only his own power grab is going to be at the cost of your best interest. How stupid can you be to vote for some one who says one thing and does the opposite against your will and vote. We absolutely know where McCain stands. However, voting for an opportunist who trashed the very principles of what the party stands for and in fact our democratic ideals of fair voting processes is saying yes to political hacks and thugs that will carry those policies into the WH. Isn’t eight years of that enough?

McCain is just a stop sign to let these hyenas know that we are not at their disposal. If you want change, you have got to know exactly what that change is, and more of the same political thuggery isn’t it. We need to put a stop to the DNC and clean house. In fact, both parties need to clean house. Corruption is corruption whether it’s from the left or the right, or the center. Damn when will people learn to think.

People who vote for Obama might as well wear a sign around their necks: For Sale Never Used, Smooth Brain.

 

Comment by clik212 | 2008-07-10 11:12:37

Sadly, you are basing your argument that abortion rights are what are motivating women in this election. What is motivating this PUMA movement and the men and women in it, is the basic principles of our Democracy which have been trashed by a pack of thugs lead by Obama. The DNC, Donna Brazile and the rest of the losers, Kerry, Mondale, Dean et al are in it to make sure the Clintons are shut out. Most important with a novice like Obama they can get their agenda through.

Abortion rights will not be overturned by McCain, with a Democratic Congress. In fact, there will be major gridlock. The Republicans along with McCain will do everything possible to make 2012 theirs.

Threatening us with McCain and the abortion question is rather lame, when you think that the big issues, of health care, Iraq, the economy etc. are looming over us like a Tsunami forming in the horizon. Please “Believe” wrap your little brain around the following omens of disaster that manifest Obama’s craven ambition:

Alic Palmer,Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Sinclair’s connection and The murder of Donald Young, Rezko and his back door donors, FISA,campaign finance reform, Iraqi position, Johnson, Samantha Powers, pandering to the christian right. Back pedaling on abortion rights.

Now he’s negotiating with Berlin to bring his silly campaign to Europe — the hubris — priceless. The insult to JFK painful for someone who was of that generation. How dare this piece of nothing exploit that moment in history towards his self adulation? The stadium convention, is for us. You have got to be drinking too much kool aid.

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:37:53

Your candidate can’t win over her own party who she’s known for 20 years, so my candidate’s a thug. Such party spirit. Where were you when the Clinton’s let Bush won off the hook for their Secret Government crimes in Central America and the Middle East, or for Federal violations during their cointest for the Presidency? Or where were you when their left workers, the environment and product safety on the shop floor to pass NAFTA? Or ending welfare as we know it? Or giving away the Lincoln bedroom? But suddenly you’ve found your principles, which are to call names and blaming people who know how to comepete and win, and want to advance an Democratic agenda. How noble.

 
 

Comment by BJ | 2008-07-10 11:18:46

hey little puppy, i’m not a mccain supporter, but i do know john mccain hasn’t changed his stance. barky is floundering all over the place making a fool of himself with his pandering. he needs a 12 step program.

 

Comment by independenthill | 2008-07-10 14:36:56

bo has flip-flopped on every issue.

He will say whatever will get him elected.
He has rightists views on gay rights and is also being a demagogue as far as abortion rights.
McCain is a known safer choice for America.
2012 is not that far away…

Comment by LiberaNatioanlist | 2008-07-10 19:42:27

I love it. The 2 issues you mention, Obama is a strong, centrist Democrat with a real record worth y of respect - but you’d take the man who is on record to torpedo them both, just so yer girl can lose in 2012. And we wonder ho Republicans have done so well in the last quarter century

 
 

Comment by DeniseB | 2008-07-10 20:41:49

Obama is apparently counting on this kind of logic - that he can say and do whatever he wants and the Democratic base will support him, because McCain will always be worse.

Usually this is true, but I wouldn’t count on it. When I have this strong a feeling about something, I usually end up going with it. Emotions are an important component in decision-making: we’ve certainly seen this in enough Obamaphiles when they explain their decision to support him. He gives them hope; he gives me despair and nausea.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-07-10 09:08:55

SURE…Now that he has no balls,why should he worry.

Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-10 13:39:16

bo’s zombies seem to think women think about abortion 24/7.

 
 

Comment by Bud White | 2008-07-10 09:09:23

Fantatic, Pat! BO’s arrogance knows no bounds!

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-07-10 09:10:23

This jerk should never be allowed near women. I am not kidding here. Imagine HIM in charge of our lives with his attitude. That alone is a big enough reason to campaign against him in any way you can. God, He is a throwback folks. His attitude as president would roll downhill to every facet of women’s lives. I haven’t seen the likes of this pig in decades.

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:13:08

But McCain, with his ZERO rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL is better?

Try some intellectual honesty if you’re talking about who is a better candidate for women and reproductive rights.

I had such a hardon for Barack!!!! I can’t help myself!!

Comment by grlpatriot | 2008-07-10 09:30:02

Actually, Hillary is the better candidate. How’s that from some intellectual honesty, Believe.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-07-10 09:43:15

I see. Since the trolls can no longer say “but, but, but Clinton …” they now say “but, but, but McCain …”. An original thought would make a troll’s head explode.

 

Comment by C.S. | 2008-07-10 10:50:23

A little intellectual honesty would be nice from you. You can attack McCain all you want but until you deal with your candidate’s own shortcomings you come off as totally biased and lack the credibility to convince a lemming to follow you off a cliff.

 

Comment by BJ | 2008-07-10 11:22:49

that’s because you have a tiny brain located at the tip of your hardon…. barky and his trolls. what loser’s. did i see you go into the horse barn to get some blinders?

 

Comment by Helen S | 2008-07-10 13:04:09

Believe…you become more and more pitiful on a daily basis…

 

Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-10 13:40:32

Well talk to him about your hardon, maybe he can meet you in a limo.

 
 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-07-10 10:23:17

Agreed. His disrespect for women, his penchant for trampling all over our dignity, is deeply alarming. What would his policies be?

Never mind how emboldened sexists would be in this country if he were elected. It’s frightening.

Go PUMA!
Hillary or McCain 08!

 

Comment by Annie Oakley | 2008-07-10 10:50:08

His attitude as president would roll downhill to every facet of women’s lives.

I loath this pandering jackass. I can’t help but wonder if the whole Jessie Jackson thing was staged and this isn’t one giant pre-planned pander to the Right. The more the Left screams, the better he appears to them.

 
 

Comment by MIDem | 2008-07-10 09:10:42

I can’t stand him.

 

Comment by avwrobel | 2008-07-10 09:10:53

McCain’s base is on the right, so he panders to it. Obambi’s is the left, but he thinks the left is in the bag for him, and can therefore say these outrageous things. What a scum!

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-07-10 10:12:54

Ooooooo! Bam! That’s what I’m talking ’bout.

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-07-10 09:13:10

Obama is ignorant, what do we expect

 

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:14:35

You complain about Obama’s remarks about abortions that affect less than 1% of women, while McCain is opposed to abortions that affect 100% of women.

So
intellectually
dishonest.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-07-10 09:18:49

Not 100% of women. Some of us are past that stage of life.

Comment by Independent | 2008-07-10 09:26:50

So your daughters and granddaughters don’t deserve the same rights that you had?

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-07-10 09:40:02

Actually, I don’t have children, and I don’t think I would’ve had an abortion even if that situation had arisen. I do believe that there are circumstances where it’s a medical necessity or in the case of rape, but I don’t believe in wholesale abortions. What I believe in is educating young women about contraception and abstinence. And before you say it, yes, this is one of those issues on which I lean to the conservative side of the fence. That’s why I’m an Independent voter. I don’t agree 100% with either party on all the issues.

Comment by Hope | 2008-07-10 10:02:30

Neither do most people, Lucinda.
Hence Obama’s about face straight to the middle. It’s the voters like you he’s after with his lies, flip flops, and mischaracterizations.
The poster Believe lacks the depth necessary to realize voters care more about the character of the President precisely because most will never agree 100% on issues on either side.

 
 

Comment by Linda T | 2008-07-10 16:12:13

You know, I am one of the ones that fought for abortion rights, and you young pipsqueaks have tried to elect someone who doesn’t give a flying shit about any of the rights we fought for, so you know what I think? If you lose them by voting for this asshole you deserve what you get.

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:20:21

He fought for them more than well enough. And if these pipsqueaks stay home - you will lose Roe - and You will deserve what you get. But we won’t let that happen.

 
 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-07-10 10:06:54

Thank GOD

and LET THEM FIGHT FOR IT LIKE WE DID!!

I will never vote for a man who says a woman should “never be punished with a child they don’t want”

THAT was a heinous thing to say.

And I am 100 percent pro choice
but never PRO-partial birth anything

Obambam is a HATER!!! Mostly of WOMEN!!

We don’t have to be blind to not HEAR it or DEAF to not SEE it!! If we were BOTH blind and deaf I’m SURE we’d FEEL something even MORE GUT UPSETTING!!!

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-07-10 10:08:04

not to mention what we already SMELL!!! PEEEEEEEEEEU! BO

 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-07-10 10:20:39

I still can’t believe he said that, Dawnelle. My first son is a….hmmmm…..’result’ of the sponge(biggest fraud ever, a cleaning device used to prevent pregnancy, only a man could come up with that). We had to drop out of college for a while and join the military for insurance but never once did I feel he was a punishment. He’s the best thing to ever happen to me. Barky just had shitty parents. That’s all. He’s got a chip on his shoulder and he wants all women to pay for his mother’s choices.

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-07-10 10:48:35

and they keep trying to convince everyone that he was NOT adversely affected by 20 yrs of hate speech at TUCC with Wright, Pfleger, etc!

When literally every word he speaks (of his OWN) and every action he takes (or fails to take) speaks to his cult of personality!

I can send him the WORD FOR THE DAY email and today’s word for Barry is

OSMOSIS

doh! ;-)

 

Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-10 13:42:56

I pity his girls if one comes up pregnant some day.

 
 
 
 

Comment by grlpatriot | 2008-07-10 09:53:14

Believe, you are missing the BIG point. We know where McCain stands; it’s not a surprise. See Obama is running as a “progressive” Democrat, but behaves and speaks like a Rovian neocon. This is not democratic, does not represent the Democratic Party, and is frankly disgusting. What really surprises me is that you aren’t disgusted by it. You must not be a real Democrat, Believe. What are you? We have a right to know in the spirit of intellectual honesty.

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:22:15

Wait - you are describing the CLINTONS!

 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-07-10 10:11:37

What’s intellectually dishonest is a lying asshole who will say ANYTHING TO WIN, who will change his position with the wind, who has managed to convince a bunch of moronic NIKEs that he’s the messiah even as he bellows tiresome bullshit that is not believable….who will do anything, change any position, prostitute himself to any special interest, from General Dynamics to the coal and nuke industries…just to achieve power.

What’s sad is that intellectually deficient worshippers BELIEVE his bullshit. Apparently the last eight years have left a shitload of eighteenish-year olds behind….they lack even basic reasoning skills.

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-07-10 10:25:11

Don’t use the word “intellectual” in any of your post. It is far too ironic.

 

Comment by Steven Mather | 2008-07-10 10:41:09

You are not in a position to critique anyone on moral or intellectual issues as your record of postings clearly demonstrates. You are a liar. You are a propagandist.

You lie. Others provide evidence you are lying. You do not respond. You do not modify your position. You repeat the lie at a later date and the process begins again.

You demand evidence from others. They provide the evidence. You do not respond. You do not modify your position. Others repeat the proven claim and you demand evidence again.

Actions like these show you to be an enemy of the practise of free speech.

Satan is the father of the lie. You are one his people: the people of the lie. Your lying actions undermine the health of communities by undermining trust within communities. Your lying is intended to undermine the trust within this free speech community.

Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Fascist Italy, and Stalinist Albania were only possible because of people like you. Dictators and tyrants need true believers to enforce their doctrine.

Your willingness to sacrifice the free will of others for Obama’s thoughts when added to FISA, equals some of the ingredients for making a tyranny.

We reject tyranny. We reject Obama’s yes vote for FISA. We reject McCain’s non-vote on FISA. What should we do with you?

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:24:02

Dude. You need some help. Seriously.

 
 

Comment by C.S. | 2008-07-10 10:59:39

So intellectually dishonest” - new Obama disciples’ catch phrase?

Who does your statistics? 100% of anything is hard to prove, so post your data and we’ll replicate your study to see if we get the same results.

Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-10 13:44:51

Oh god, is that going to be the phrase of the day?

 
 

Comment by BJ | 2008-07-10 11:24:48

no, it’s a complaint about a liar… he lies, he goes back on his word, he panders, he’s just a POS.

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-07-10 09:16:05

Obama is ignorant, what do we expect…

 

Comment by Sprout | 2008-07-10 09:16:06

That ‘man’ is the most bigoted, mysoginistic, moronic, pathetic excuse for a candidate that has ever been fielded for the office of POTUS. I don’t understand those who follow and worship him, I don’t understand how they can dismiss gaffe after gaffe and treat him as their messiah.
If anything, the DNC should BEG Hillary Clinton to take the nomination in August to prevent the biggest landslide defeat of the democratic party in the past 100 years.
I don’t want to vote for McCain, but I would vote for a trained seal before I would vote for barack obama. McCain is looking better by the day and at this point, he has my vote in Novemeber, my vote that has never gone to any republican in my lifetime and I thought never would. As for Obama, It’s not the color of his skin, it’s the lack of his character. The man is the liberal version of george bush and will only make our country worse, not better.
It’s time the MSM start asking the hard questions such as: What was your involvment with Resko, Ayers, Larry Sinclair, Donald Young and the myriad of other connections that have been ignored in their quest to coronate him emporer of the United States.
The emporer has no clothes!!

Comment by wodiej | 2008-07-10 09:17:16

it’s simple, they have shit for brains. I think they have a mommy and daddy complex too. that is why they come here with us adults to get attention.

 

Comment by LiberalNationalist | 2008-07-10 20:25:21

This post is an argument for electroshock therapy.

 
 

Comment by gerard nedich | 2008-07-10 09:16:17

i’m voting for mccain…

at least 3 times…

obama is a wanker…

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-07-10 09:17:28

What a sick little puppy. At least MCCain is actually saving lives with his plan for the surge in Iraq that Obama was against.

 

Comment by sonia | 2008-07-10 09:20:03

Barack Obama crossed the pop culture/politics divide today by praising Lil’ Wayne’s rhyming ability at a campaign event in Powder Springs, Georgia.

Take the lyrics of Lollipop, the aforementioned song which, if you have not yet heard on the radio, then your children certainly have. As is the habit of most modern Hip Hop, it is a song of sexual conquest, with Lil’ Wayne boasting of his ability to attract women and enjoy their company. Not so interesting, you think? Check out this set of lyrical couplets:


I get her on top / She drop it like it’s hot
And when I’m at the bottom / She Hillary Rodham

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/7/10/05915/6199

Comment by wodiej | 2008-07-10 09:25:29

Jeezus-the vulgarity and Obama said nothing but praise. A prize PIG.

 

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:32:03

And then there’s McCain, who divorced his first wife because she was in a wheelchair to marry a rich second wife, who he has called a c**t in public.

Do you know the story of his first wife? Ross Perot was around to help her then.

Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Comment by gerard nedich | 2008-07-10 09:34:21

is this is what its all come down to?

when you can no longer defend or be proud of Baracktrack’s pathetic actions you gotta spread nasty crap about a decent honest american…

we all see through you…

i just hope your check from Baracktrack clears after he loses the election…

or gets arrested…

whichever comes first…

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

Comment by believe | 2008-07-10 09:54:18

You’re complaining about spreading nasty crap? Everything I wrote above is documented. Meanwhile this site spawns the nastiest BS around.

Comment by WildChild | 2008-07-10 09:57:08

You said BOBO didn’t flip flop on public financing. BOBO flip flopped on public finamcing.

 

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-07-10 10:52:52

Except that you omitted any quote from Carol McCain herself, didn’t you?