Don Imus versus Bernie Mac
By Kirk Tofte on July 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM in Barack Obama, Sexism
In the spring of 2007 when Don Imus referred to the players on Rutgers Women’s basketball teams as “nappy headed ‘hos” on his radio program, Barack Obama called for Imus to be fired immediately for remarks that were racist (and, one would hope, sexist). Last night Bernie Mac referred to a woman in a joke he told at a big Obama fundraiser as a “’ho” and Obama “chastised” him but then admitted he was “only playing with you, man.”
This story has been reported in various forms at many outlets. Some in the mainstream media covered everything but Obama’s “only playing with you” caveat. Others covered pretty much the entire matter.
But on the Internet, only noquarterusa.net gave it the full treatment it deserved. There was no mention of it on dailykos.com or at politico.com, and talkingpointsmemo.com mentioned it in a second tier article that did not have comments attached to it.
Huffingtonpost.com featured it as a third tier story and allowed for comments. Unfortunately—but predictably—readers there rose to defend Bernie Mac for his comic brilliance.
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She will soon be free from BO, and will rise to eliminate this creep and his creepy friends.
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Racism is racism, and sexism is sexism, no matter how you slice it or what race or gender implies or utters it. Bernie Mac is a racist-sexist comedian, period and Barack Hobama should fire him…if he can.
I am still waiting for Al Sharpton’s “march on the party’s Washington headquarters” for seating Florida and Michigan’s delegates.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02142008/news/nationalnews/al__wed_picket_dem_hq_97565.html__wed_picket_dem_hq_97565.htm
Snapper he’s Barack The Pimp’s kinda guy! Him and his Ho wife love the guy!
Imus was a political exercise to demonstrate and reinforce the power of the threat of a “racist” label. No need to do that with Bernie Mac, he’s on the “right” side.
Same thing with Jackson’s castration rant. If that had been done by a white guy, Jackson would be all over the place explaining the historical implication of a threat of castrating a black man. But since Jackson said it (with appropriate hand gesture, to boot), a pass was given.
Racial hypocrisy.
Yep… Double Standard…
Here is the full statement Obama made:
Obama is supposed to be a leader. He should be able to take a stand. This is one more time he flip-flops.
On one hand, he tells Bernie Mac what he said was wrong, and in the next breath he essentially takes back what he said by saying, “By the way…”
By prefacing his “I’m just messing with you,” with “By the way,” Obama is speak code to Bernie Mac saying “Don’t take it personally, I didn’t really mean it.”
Wonder who the affair comment was aimed at? NOT.
Obama stands for everything and he stands for nothing. Put the two together and you have one hell of an empty suit!
“he tells Bernie Mac what he said was wrong, and in the next breath he essentially takes back what he said” …… Actually, it was in the same breath….
And the day before, Obama was in northern Virginia making a speech on economic equality for women. http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/news/2008/jul/10/obama-vists-fairfax/ Does he not see that sanctioning crude speech about women does real damage? He should have walked on the stage as soon as Mac made the comments, and asked him to get off.
Obama could not stand up to Bernie Mac? How is he going to stand up to national leaders, who have a lot more personal ooomph than a comedian?
You know I think Clinton would have walked out and took the mike away from Mac then apologized …and I also think McCain would have a gotten him off stage and apologized also….they both realize how important the women voters are in a presidential election…Obama is just out to have some fun it sounds like…does he not realize everything he says will be made public….he could never stand up to leaders in other countries..
John McCain for President in ‘08
Obama’s female staffers are paid lass than the men. McCain staff the are the HIGHEST paid. One man is talk, the other walks the walk.
Tim Rutten:
Independent of logic, he arrives at the conclusion that agitprop political theater gets traction.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rutten12-2008jul12,0,1259015.column
This, along with a Rovian orchestration of the theme, culled and cultured by David Axelrod, that McCain is “whining” are not going to gain traction.
Whining, something associated with young voters.
That’s really going to turn the vote around where you hurt the most, Barack. Those older voters throw the phrase ‘whining’ around a lot. Is this Michelle’s ‘whiney’ tape? Why’d he?
Look at the media people carrying Barack’s water now. They advance his talking points. Didn’t we say we’d never support a guy like that when Bush got the same treatment?
A good friend is voting for Nader this time. He’s jumped the shark, and he voted Democratic before that. His cousin was one of nine people in the county(along with myself) who voted for him in prior elections. That man now runs the Democratic campaign offices here. It would be interesting to get his perspective now.
That’s right, he’s flipped two votes Nader’s way by going with DNC mantras. Health care will burn you like no other issue. You flip flopped one vote for two.
Another guy who “never voted Democrat in his life” swears he may vote the GOP this time at a recent holiday cookout. He was a bit sauced though, he said he voted for Clinton twice as POTUS, and he grew up here in Arkansas.
My take on it that he actually meant he never voted Republican, but that would change. That’s the only way his present statement could be consistent with his past votes.
But what does he know, he just works at a supermarket. Donna Brazille is right, the Democratic party doesn’t need those types of people. Just go away!
Reagan Democrats, Clinton Republicans, let them eat gas prices!
Dude, whatever you just said, I think I might have agreed with?
If I said.. “I have changed my mind and I am voting Obama”
followed up by… “I am just messing with you man” you would know I didn’t mean the first part of what I said and I am still voting for McCain….
Obama is such a loser….
Thanks Kirk for pointing out the hypocrisy of Obamboozle.
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Since when did Women become so sensative?
Since when did women become so sensitive? sp
Oh i know,
Oh, I know.
when Noquarter didnt have anything to talk about
When Noquarter didn’t have anything to talk about.
This child was left behind.
He thinks he’s W.S. Merwin.
SNAP!
The media has begun its summer spin - two step strategy stage. Gone from “oh, they’ll get over it” to here’s what we better do to get them over it:
http://unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com
Read it through and be forewarned: there will be more to come- the next hideous stage of MSM courtship with Hillary voters. UGH
Hey I love that post…I must put that line up on my blog…“Whose to say we’ve been changed for the better? We only know we’ve been changed for good!” do you mind?
have you considered that the reason nobody’s covering it it’s because it’s a non-issue? this is why people don’t take you guys seriously. it’s not like he’s part of his campaign.
so why is an important dude like you wasting time
in a blog full of non-issues?
I, for one, am a collector of childish, spiteful nicknames for Barack Obama. They abound on this site.
My fave so far:
“BaJoke Ofraudma”
Has Oscar Wilde risen from the grave? Or is No Quarter the new Algonquin Roundtable?
Hey don’t forget BOBOwaffles. Ha Ha Ha Ha, I love that one.
BOBOwaffles……lol…I think that is my favorite…I had to say it out loud when I saw it….Yup…BOBOwaffles…
Heh Heh Heh
The worst nickname I can think of for BHO would be “Undercover Black Man”.
I saw Obismal today, kinda liked that one.
“Blowcacca” is my fave. Even thought I just now made it up.
LOL! Great one, “BaJoke Ofraudma”.
My kid thinks Barack sounds like a chicken clucking. Everytime he comes on the news she starts clucking Bawak, bawk, bawk.
She’s really going to have to lay off politics before school starts, LOL.
Great kid!
Try Hope Pope.
“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars”. Unlike the deodorant addicts (afflicted with BO) who are only gazing at the lint in their cute little navels.
I always like Oscar’s parting shot as he lay dying… “Either this wallpaper goes or I do!”
That it! We’ll send wallpaper sample to the Oblowme campaign.
My all time fave: Bawhack Obummer!
What about the talk radio guy who introduced mccain and said things about hussein and was immediately corrected by mccain and the media talked about it for 4 days?
this is the same thing
it is a double standard and all the voters are watching now and they/we dont like that shxt
You think he appeared for free do you?
But only whites can be obnoxious racists! Didn’t you know that? I mean we’ve been told that over and over again, a mantra of political correctness. And sexist, misogynist gigs? Well, they take second tier at best. Besides, it’s just a bunch of women they’re talking about. Most of whom “deserve” the label of bitch and “ho,” and whatever other derogatory language you can come up with and laugh yourselves silly over. Women are such an overly sensitive lot. I mean that’s what they get for having the nerve of leaving the kitchen and nurseries and trying in that lame and whiney way they have of competing with . . . real men.
Not that Obama or Bernie Mac fall into the category of “real” men, the kind that would break their arms and legs for being so disrespectful.
“I’m just playing with you, man?”
I’d just love it if my husband said something like that.
But then, I’m one of those sensitive types. Bet you can’t guess which lever I will “not” pull in November.
Pathetic losers! And supporters brush this off their shoulders or under the rug?
Losers, every one of them! And then, they wonder and ponder and gnash their teeth over why, oh why Hillary’s supporters won’t cough up money?
They can go straight to Hell.
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the same way he stood up when of his supporters called Hillary a bitch?
that’s right guys, keep pretending you don’t haven an agenda…
Oh baby! We have an agenda all right! Making sure that lying empty suit obama NEVER gets into the WH. Haven’t you been paying attention?
On top of that, here’s my personal agenda - watching bambi LOSE in complete disgrace and total humiliation (at his own hand, of course - which is not even the slightest reach to imagine). I look forward to seeing the SOB so discredited he couldn’t even be elected dogcatcher.
In other words, my agenda is seeing the “precious” snot get what he deserves.
Don’t even get me started on what you bots deserve…
I love what you said, but I have a better agenda than that…making Obambi go back to the ‘hood (Senate) and be humiliated by the bruthers (Kerry) telling him (Obambi) he’s just another one of them (senators) now, and a “fool” (loser) for losing his sure fire nomination to the Ho at the last minute.
Like John Kerry, George Mcgovern, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, or Al Gore are all losers endorsing THIS loser? Jimmy Carter I can forgive for his advanced age, maybe he’s getting a little dementia? And Ted Kennedy for his brain tumor that clearly has affected his mind. What’s the excuse for the rest of them? Even Russ Feingold was bashing the FISA bill that Obambi endorsed, supported and voted for and in the next breath was saying we have to all get behind the fool in order to fix it! HUH???? Has he gone daft in the space of 3 seconds?
The FISA vote alone is reason enough to dump Obambi NOW, before he’s the official nominee. And the DNC actually believes we should get behind a person whose judgment is so flawed that he voted FOR FISA??? I’m amazed Feingoldcould sit there and say it on TV with a straight face! I’m beginning to think people running for office should have to get a metnal health examination as part of the paperwork and screening process. And especially after Bush 43. Do we want or need anymor ementla defectives? Obambi is clearly another dangerous mental case like Bush 43 who needs to be sent home to get his diapers changed and let the grown up Mommy take over and clean up the little boys mess!
Listen, this is all just fine with Obama so I know he won’t mind being called a pimp and having his wife called a Ho. After all, we’re just “messin with him”.
Pimp and Ho Obama.
There’s gotta be a Rap song somewhere in this.
McCain made the mistake ONCE, learned from it and hasn’t made it again. BO is like the energizeer bunny, keeps making the same mistake over, and over, and over, and over, and never learns.
This is a humiliating time. Mrs. Obama telling us to spend our money on earrings…[we can buy books; some of us read.]
Mr. Obama thinking a ‘ho’ joke was a grin.
Mr. Obama dismissing women as sweeties and Sen. Clinton as likeable enough.
But all that is just his bad manners. What really has me angry is his FISA flip-flop.
Michelle? You mean Ho Obama, don’t you?
HOBOwaffles
Love your bus!
This just make the PUMA roar louder. Keep up the good Barack you Ass
The whole FISA thing was just wrong…Pelosi stopped that vote before… then when Obama became the selected nominee it was voted on…
How about his crotch flip to female reporters as captured on the “Journalists Gone Wild” clip?
Or his smack-on-the-a$$ to the presumptuous First Ho televized to the world?
FISA was no flip flop. He vted for it ecause when president e wants al those powers & more.
That is the first thing that I thought of when I heard that. He wants to be able to listen in on anyone he wants.
you got that right…
How else is he gonna know who to sic his thugs on?
He vOted for it Because when President He wants alL those powers & more.
I knew what you meant..
Folks,
Obama came out and spoke against Mac’s jokes. His campaign has denounced them. They received a poor reception by the audience.
These kinds of stand-up routines have been common for years, and they’re WRONG. But Obama agreed that they’re inappropriate. His “messing with you” line may have been ambiguous, but the statement of his campaign was not.
Again? He has to come out after the fact? This is getting really old. I’m guessing you’re not seeing a pattern here.
lol! lot-o-laughs tonight.
Bernie Mac did this on purpose or he is an idot. How would he not understand that Obama needs woman to win and Barack should have had someone talk to Bernie prior to the event he knows what Mac’s comedy is like.
I think Bernie understood just fine that Obama hates women. Misogyny is an accepted part of black male culture.
So its another… W O R M…ok I will vote for Obama…just messing with ya man…
McCain’08
Is Mac just another uncle? Is Obama going to come out with another speech and lecture us so we can feel thrills up our leg?
The best idea I have heard is for Obama to fire himself, and I suggested it.
well I will second that motion..
You still don’t get it.
His campaign is supposed is doing it’s job, to put spin on his bad comments. It’s his attitude that is the problem and very indicative of his misogynistic attitude against women in general.
You just can’t adequately “spin” bad attitude very well. Is this his version of accidently pushing the wrong button in voting? He’s displaying classic anti-women attitudes. Men who make such denigrating jokes directed at women do not love or even like women.
Say what you will, but men who love women do not make disparaging jokes about us.
Imus has a radio show where he typically makes these types of remarks just as many others do as well. Imus and these others are not running for president and one does not have to listen to their show.
Obama, on the otherhand, attended a racist, anti-American church for 20 years and therefore should fire himself from his campaign.
and once again, my question went completely unanswered.
how is THIS: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o okay with you guys, yet you’re chastising Obama for something a COMEDIAN said?
don’t all answer at once guys.
It is not that Bernie Mac said it was the Obama did not correct it. He said I am just messing with! Not that you should not call women Ho’s he has 2 daughters for Petes sake
Senator Clinton…I respect Senator Clinton…did he look happy when that was said?
He laughed when the guy said something about his ex-wife not at the bitch comment.
Lets see what was the name of the song playing in the background in Iowa?…hummm…anyone remember?
and he still did nothing about it.
should be “democrats FUBAR”, not democrats4barr.
think you can handle that, sweetie?
ps..the subject is Obama, not McCain.
nobama = no more liars in the WH.
Hillary or McCain, 08
That’s because he’s a pimp and his wife’s a Ho. After all, that’s funny.
and that’s my entire point, they keep saying Mccain is so honorable would’ve gotten up and there and done something about it… history says otherwise.
oh, and the same man made a sexist/homophobic about Chelsea Clinton.
Well to be honest…McCain did not sit in rev wright’s church for 20 years and I trust him with our country…BO I don’t trust…
So are you voting for Barr?…your name?
“and that’s my entire point, they keep saying Mccain is so honorable would’ve gotten up and there and done something about it… history says otherwise.”
I don’t believe that anymore than I believe your a democrat4barr
4barr, you’re very lucky it’s late or I would post some of the crap I have had said to me by Obamazoids. John McCain looks like a feminist next to Pimp Obama and his Ho.
As you know, Pimp and Ho is funny when it’s directed at everybody else, so I am sure Mr. Pimp and Mrs. Ho won’t mind.
O’boy tells Bernie “”This is a family affair. … I’m just messing with you”… Obama backflips on scolding Bernie in the same breath!!
Is there anything Obama will not flip flop on?
It takes a real man to stand up to another. BO is not one.
and real men are not afraid of women.
As I commented in my blog post very early in the day on this,
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Doesn’t all this bring you back to the days of Camelot and Jackie Kennedy’s White House affairs featuring the like of Pablo Casals and all those other lovely, cultural events??”
“A Look at a Chicago-Style Fundraiser for Obama–”Hoes” on the Agenda (UPDATE 1X–AP Picks Up Story & It Is Being Picked Up EVERYWHERE!)”
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5vhohk
no, he only sought out the endorsement of Reverend Hagee, and public expressed his hate for “Gooks”…
but that’s another issue.
what know how Mccain is suddenly such a swell guy when he has a known history of being misogynist.
So are you going to answer me? are you voting for Barr?
And Obamoron claims he didn’t know about McClurkin’s anti-gay/ex-gay ministry when he offered McClurkin a spot on last year’s tour.
Obamoron’s rationale for McClurkin? “He’s popular with Black Evangelicals.” (And what do Black Evangelicals have in common with their White counterparts? A dislike of gays, especially those so insistent upon being treated as full-fledged American citizens instead of second-class citizens. And, it’s also funny how Black Evangelicals are the loudest to cry “foul” when gays have the audacity to bring up the civil rights movement, especially in relation to same-sex marriage rights.)
nope, but i and others are contributing to this campaign.
so why the name…I don’t care who you vote for I was just a wondering…I do realize that there does need to be a third party…the two we have with all the power are anything but great…
oh and i’m not for the guy, i just want him to look as possible in the General. what better way to challenge a republican than an actual republican. the GOP’s Nader if you will. even better if Ron Paul is his running mate.
They are contibuting to Barr because Barky O Pimp and his wife Ho are lameassed candidates and they need to take votes away from McCain. Thats why we should all contribute to Ralph Nader, who incidentally, will pull far more votes from Shithead than barr will ever pull from McCain.
Apparently Barky needs all the help he can get.
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I made a comment on the first thread about this and I’m not going to go over the same ground.
Personally, I bet Obama was mortified, but in true politician form, he took the safe way out. He chastised Bernie, but underscored it in a way that allowed him to keep his cool creds with black folks.
I don’t agree that other politicians would have played it differently or stopped Bernie in his tracks. John Kerry didn’t when Whoopi made her Bush jokes in 2004; McCain laughed nervously when a woman ambushed him months back with: “How do we beat the bitch?” remark. These moments are not just awkward, they catch politicians off guard in a very public circumstance. We all know full well how the smallest faux pas can derail a candidacy once in the hands of a zealous msm. So they all play it safe.
I mentioned before that this joke was making the email rounds among AAs last year. It’s funny to black people. I’m not going to go into the cultural reasons why. The email version was funnier than the way Mack told it, btw. AAs will not understand what all the fuss is about and white Obamatons will latch on to that as a way of trivializing the ‘joke.’
Bernie Mack was out of his skull to think he could tell a joke like that at a political fundraiser for POTUS. It was a totally inappropriate venue for such a joke. And I say that as someone who read it last year in an email, laughed and passed it along. Had I been there, I would have hissed loudly. and I’m not an Obama supporter.
I’ve come to the conclusion as a result of this primary that there are an awful lot of stupid people in this country. Bernie Mack is but one example. The woman who ambushed McCain with the ‘bitch’ comment, another. These people are not only stupid, but they’re arrogant about it.
Obama is the leading example of this kind of thing. His people were stupid not to vet Mack and prep him. In fact, all of these campaigns need to do that before they let people speak in their behalf.
Like Obama, Bernie Mack is an embarrassment to AAs. Neither one of them are ready for prime time.
The whole thing is just pitiful….Just patitiful…..
I am so sick of the black men who choose to be foul-mouthed sexists, saying anything they want, knowing that it’s practically against the law to call them on it.
As Hank Hill (”King of the Hill”) once asked, and so eloquently: “What-the-hell kind of country IS this, where you can’t hate a man unless he’s white?!”