Comments on: Seriously, Is Obama Just a Puppet? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:35:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mike http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-765269 Mike Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:32:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-765269 We have always invested a disproportionate amount of faith in virtually unknown leaders. History is replete with very ordinary people who have conned and bullied their way into the confidence of the gullible majority. How many more millions of good ordinary people have to die on the altar of political ambition before we start having damage limitation through transparent democracy. The so-called 'Committee of 300' wants world domination; but who are they? They are listed on the Internet and they got their authority without our help, or did they? Wake up! The founding fathers gave us the constitution to break us away from the apparent tyrrany of the British crown. Joseph McCarthy tried to protect us from communism from within. Was nothing learned from history? We have always invested a disproportionate amount of faith in virtually unknown leaders. History is replete with very ordinary people who have conned and bullied their way into the confidence of the gullible majority. How many more millions of good ordinary people have to die on the altar of political ambition before we start having damage limitation through transparent democracy. The so-called ‘Committee of 300′ wants world domination; but who are they? They are listed on the Internet and they got their authority without our help, or did they? Wake up! The founding fathers gave us the constitution to break us away from the apparent tyrrany of the British crown. Joseph McCarthy tried to protect us from communism from within. Was nothing learned from history?

]]> By: fred heidrick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-486524 fred heidrick Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:05:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-486524 i thought ted sorenson wrote his speaches,JFKs speach writer, well i guess i was wrong.pupet or co consperitor.the neocons made bush there candidate , and tom daschle,howard dean, and jim kerry.are obamas co conspiritors. mabe at first he was just a part of the gang, but i think he is now the godfather of the group. i thought ted sorenson wrote his speaches,JFKs speach writer, well i guess i was wrong.pupet or co consperitor.the neocons made bush there candidate , and tom daschle,howard dean, and jim kerry.are obamas co conspiritors.

mabe at first he was just a part of the gang, but i think he is now the godfather of the group.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-482564 Anonymous Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:34:35 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-482564 This is going to hurt most when Obama has to debate McCain. McCain is a horrible speech giver but he is a knowledgeable inside with decades of experience dealing with the issues. Ever see Obama talk about something not scripted? He's a fucking moron....and it shows. Every single time McCain talks about an important, but off topic subject, during any of the debates, he is going to humiliate Obama. This is the reason Obama has avoided any town hall meetings with McCain. He knows that, if he even attends one, he will be outed as being stupid (not just inexperienced....STUPID). His support will totally collapse and he'd lose the nomination to Clinton. Clinton supporters. You want to get rid of Obama? You want to force a situation where Clinton runs (like she should have been chosen for)? Then create a situation where Obama is forced to go head to head with McCain, preferably in a town hall meeting. Stack the audience with people who ask the tough questions. Watch the Obama campaign completely disintegrate. But do it soon. Enough in advance of the convention to give the superdelegates enough time to abandon ship in favor of the SS Clinton. This is going to hurt most when Obama has to debate McCain. McCain is a horrible speech giver but he is a knowledgeable inside with decades of experience dealing with the issues. Ever see Obama talk about something not scripted? He’s a fucking moron….and it shows. Every single time McCain talks about an important, but off topic subject, during any of the debates, he is going to humiliate Obama. This is the reason Obama has avoided any town hall meetings with McCain. He knows that, if he even attends one, he will be outed as being stupid (not just inexperienced….STUPID). His support will totally collapse and he’d lose the nomination to Clinton.

Clinton supporters. You want to get rid of Obama? You want to force a situation where Clinton runs (like she should have been chosen for)? Then create a situation where Obama is forced to go head to head with McCain, preferably in a town hall meeting. Stack the audience with people who ask the tough questions. Watch the Obama campaign completely disintegrate.

But do it soon. Enough in advance of the convention to give the superdelegates enough time to abandon ship in favor of the SS Clinton.

]]> By: Steve http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481748 Steve Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:44:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481748 Obama has an army of 300 foreign policy advisors. In a field where he claimed to need no help at all, since he is a foreign policy expert. Go figure. Obama has an army of 300 foreign policy advisors. In a field where he claimed to need no help at all, since he is a foreign policy expert. Go figure.

]]> By: vi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481549 vi Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:50:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481549 remember that childrens rhym, sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me.. Speak loud and with a vingence.. We matter and no matter if the Dnc likes it we are gaining support and we are read more offten in the movement of doing what is right. So down down Obama pets, he will bring u some sugar when he gets back to feed you another well written speach of pander, and not his true record.... and then you will get ur fix on his sweets to continue speaking words of change that mean nothing... remember that childrens rhym, sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me.. Speak loud and with a vingence.. We matter and no matter if the Dnc likes it we are gaining support and we are read more offten in the movement of doing what is right. So down down Obama pets, he will bring u some sugar when he gets back to feed you another well written speach of pander, and not his true record…. and then you will get ur fix on his sweets to continue speaking words of change that mean nothing…

]]> By: vi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481525 vi Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:44:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481525 Ladies and Gentleman , i know over the months we supporters of Hillary have had to endure the malicious attacks of the paid Obama bloggers and supporters, and it is now time to step up to the plate and let them know we will not tolerate the lack of respect for woman, elderly ,workingclass, white, hispanic, catholic jewish, our military personel for doing their job , whenever they cannot rule a conversation or debate, they throw that we are racist and republicans, and they can not stand by the experience or record of Obama, why is it they see race in Hillary or McCain supporters when alot of his supporters are black and voting because he is black and not on issues, like many i looked into his record, and he is bad on paper, color did not sway my vote for Clinton and her being a woman made no difference, it was her work and what she fights for through her legislation, so stand firm when they use nasty words and hold ur ground their voice is not always right when they do not look at the issues, and Change to me means more of work and experience rather than a nice speech. Those Obama supporters use words of stupidity to demeanor our voice, so lets give them their own medicine, and lots more have to voice their opinions as citizens to the Washington Post, because in their everyone reads from senators to supporter paid blogers of the DNC, economist so pull out the record and lets talk integrity character and pride in what we are fighting for, our voice and our vote. Ladies and Gentleman , i know over the months we supporters of Hillary have had to endure the malicious attacks of the paid Obama bloggers and supporters, and it is now time to step up to the plate and let them know we will not tolerate the lack of respect for woman, elderly ,workingclass, white, hispanic, catholic jewish, our military personel for doing their job , whenever they cannot rule a conversation or debate, they throw that we are racist and republicans, and they can not stand by the experience or record of Obama, why is it they see race in Hillary or McCain supporters when alot of his supporters are black and voting because he is black and not on issues, like many i looked into his record, and he is bad on paper, color did not sway my vote for Clinton and her being a woman made no difference, it was her work and what she fights for through her legislation, so stand firm when they use nasty words and hold ur ground their voice is not always right when they do not look at the issues, and Change to me means more of work and experience rather than a nice speech. Those Obama supporters use words of stupidity to demeanor our voice, so lets give them their own medicine, and lots more have to voice their opinions as citizens to the Washington Post, because in their everyone reads from senators to supporter paid blogers of the DNC, economist so pull out the record and lets talk integrity character and pride in what we are fighting for, our voice and our vote.

]]> By: vi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481334 vi Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:05:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481334 Policies, lets talk about polices, and speeches. Time and time again he has shown his true color on conviction and his integrity. Speeches that he so elegantly talk about , is not the endorcement of his true belief, we see that in the votes that he supported, that he so elegantly addressed he would filabuster or not endorce. Time and time agrain I addressed the issue of him being to liberal, and time and time again they compare McCain on being more like Bush, but have we really studied his voting record in the what 3 years of being in the senate? He votes alot like a Republican if u look and see how many bills are addressed and passed by Republicans, and the bills he did not vote on , the man is not a leader but a follower, he lacks the integrity that McCain and Clinton stands for, they stand by what they have a conviction and speak about. As for a puppet yes , on one of his economic speeches , knowing he and McCain know just about the same, but McCain is man enough to say it,hes weak on the economy , Obama spoke eleqantly someone elses, words, this is unlike Obama to have a fluent speech on technics of a fluent economist, in laymans terms once again probaley borrowed a speech from Clintons plan. Lets just face it he spoke about Change and beat up Clinton for her plans on the economy and her plans for the nation, that he is now borrowing Clintons economic plans, but we all know that this is her strong point and his weekness. His weekness to be prsident is apparent when you can see throuh his speeches and determine his pander. Durin his tour in Europe , i do not see strength I see a man who has been crippled by wanting to be everyone but himself from JFK rfk mlk and Reagan, the true Obama a liberal who is one sided and does not vote with the conviction to stand on issues that will help the poor, middleclass , single mothers, homeowners , laws that will help those affected by crime, and yes his own district in Chicago, time and time again his votes did not help those that needed it , but those who can contribute to his campaign, which we all know now that they were radical terrorist muslim groups, racist views of Ayers Wright and Farahkhan, you are who you surround yourself with 20yrs of friendship, , thats family. Im a democrat vote democrat , and those who question im a republican are fools, i have a voting record, just like Obama , but i vote on integrity, character, and policies. This man lacks it all. Lets talk about overseas deployments , the e the promise of ending the Iraq war, well wake up im from a military family who husbands has done tours in Iraq, and now we know there is no end to deployment or a break of peace the war will continue along with deployments to Afghanistan, as with Bush we will continue to fight two wars just fewer men in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan will be a war of lives lost more in Iraq due to the layout of the Democratic plan opened up for the media, we are as military families preparing for longer rotations in Afghanistan . McCain has been honest to say we are at war for our freedom to live without fear from those who look to place fear in our as American movement abroad. A speech will not demand the respect that we have so long fought for. A true leader is a man or woman who will not pander and tell you that we have two fights and promising to end one is not a promise for peace and stability at home, Obama is promising something he can not deliver, to our American families , that regardless if he is in office, our men , woman, mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers will continue to see the deployments and their rotations as we do now here at Ft Hood, where we do both already, shifting a war does not make u a winner, if your promising the same as Bush and McCain, we will follow a man who has service, integrity , character, and experience before we follow a liberal who is a pide pipper of speeches that he does not believe in, the American people first before who can better your campaign, view his record in Chicago and in the 3 years in the Senate, which a 1 1/2 running for president. Lets judge on his record and integrity to tell the truth when it comes to his acquaintances, the polls show more and more Americans do not trust him with the safety of our country , our economy is a mess but remember just because he surrounds himself with Wallstreet the President has little say, as we all know, Bush is better liked then Pelosi and congress or senate all were late to the party all failed , Pelosi should have included herself as a failure to the American people . sorry this got away from me The American people first before party and self McCain and Clinton with their work has proven this , and Obama has not..... I am a Democrat lets not vote for speeches, lets vote on their wisdom and experience and their work... Just say NODEAL, and Im proud of my Country Policies, lets talk about polices, and speeches. Time and time again he has shown his true color on conviction and his integrity. Speeches that he so elegantly talk about , is not the endorcement of his true belief, we see that in the votes that he supported, that he so elegantly addressed he would filabuster or not endorce. Time and time agrain I addressed the issue of him being to liberal, and time and time again they compare McCain on being more like Bush, but have we really studied his voting record in the what 3 years of being in the senate? He votes alot like a Republican if u look and see how many bills are addressed and passed by Republicans, and the bills he did not vote on , the man is not a leader but a follower, he lacks the integrity that McCain and Clinton stands for, they stand by what they have a conviction and speak about. As for a puppet yes , on one of his economic speeches , knowing he and McCain know just about the same, but McCain is man enough to say it,hes weak on the economy , Obama spoke eleqantly someone elses, words, this is unlike Obama to have a fluent speech on technics of a fluent economist, in laymans terms once again probaley borrowed a speech from Clintons plan. Lets just face it he spoke about Change and beat up Clinton for her plans on the economy and
her plans for the nation, that he is now borrowing Clintons economic plans, but we all know that this is her strong point and his weekness. His weekness to be prsident is apparent when you can see throuh his speeches and determine his pander. Durin his tour in Europe , i do not see strength I see a man who has been crippled by wanting to be everyone but himself from JFK rfk mlk and Reagan, the true Obama a liberal who is one sided and does not vote with the conviction to stand on issues that will help the poor, middleclass , single mothers, homeowners , laws that will help those affected by crime, and yes his own district in Chicago, time and time again his votes did not help those that needed it , but those who can contribute to his campaign, which we all know now that they were radical terrorist muslim groups, racist views of Ayers Wright and Farahkhan, you are who you surround yourself with 20yrs of friendship, , thats family. Im a democrat vote democrat , and those who question im a republican are fools, i have a voting record, just like Obama , but i vote on integrity, character, and policies. This man lacks it all. Lets talk about overseas deployments , the e the promise of ending the Iraq war, well wake up im from a military family who husbands has done tours in Iraq, and now we know there is no end to deployment or a break of peace the war will continue along with deployments to Afghanistan, as with Bush we will continue to fight two wars just fewer men in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan will be a war of lives lost more in Iraq due to the layout of the Democratic plan opened up for the media, we are as military families preparing for longer rotations in Afghanistan . McCain has been honest to say we are at war for our freedom to live without fear from those who look to place fear in our as American movement abroad. A speech will not demand the respect that we have so long fought for. A true leader is a man or woman who will not pander and tell you that we have two fights and promising to end one is not a promise for peace and stability at home, Obama is promising something he can not deliver, to our American families , that
regardless if he is in office, our men , woman, mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers will continue to see the deployments and their rotations as we do now here at Ft Hood, where we do both already, shifting a war does not make u a winner, if your promising the same as Bush and McCain, we will follow a man who has service, integrity , character, and experience before we follow a liberal who is a pide pipper of speeches that he does not believe in, the American people first before who can better your campaign, view his record in Chicago and in the 3 years in the Senate, which a 1 1/2 running for president. Lets judge on his record and integrity to tell the truth when it comes to his acquaintances, the polls show more and more Americans do not trust him with the safety of our country , our economy is a mess but remember just because he surrounds himself with Wallstreet the President has little say, as we all know, Bush is better liked then Pelosi and congress or senate all were late to the party all failed , Pelosi should have included herself as a failure to the American people .

sorry this got away from me The American people first before party and self McCain and Clinton with their work has proven this , and Obama has not…..

I am a Democrat lets not vote for speeches, lets vote on their wisdom and experience and their work… Just say NODEAL, and Im proud of my Country

]]> By: sarainitaly http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481308 sarainitaly Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:57:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481308 thanks johnny! I have spent a LOT of time reading and learning and *investigating* this past year. I have lots o' info on him, and lots more I have written about on my blog. he definitely has an interesting past to dig into. thanks johnny! I have spent a LOT of time reading and learning and *investigating* this past year. I have lots o’ info on him, and lots more I have written about on my blog.

he definitely has an interesting past to dig into.

]]> By: Athy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481193 Athy Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:18:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481193 Is Sen Obama’s past record an indication of how good Sen Obama has been-really- for African Americans? I wonder what the NAACP thinks about this? James Baldwin -in "The Fire Next Time" writes a letter to his nephew James.(Page 7 1993 edition) in an effort to provide the young African American 15 year old boy with some insight as to what he will face ...AND MUST FACE...as he grows up in our society. "This innocent country set you down in a ghetto in which, in fact, it intended that you should perish.Let me spell out precisely what I mean by that, for the heart of the matter is here, and the root of my dispute with my country.You were born where you were born and faced the future that you faced because you were black and for no other reason". What would the honorable James Baldwin say if he were alive today and saw what Sen Obama did to his own people in District 13 in Chicago? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baldwin_%28writer%29 PLEASE EDUCATE YOUR FELLOW VOTERS. http://vodpod.com/watch/857180-why-chicagoans-are-against-obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-YoB5mnZs&eurl=http://formerobamasupporters.com/ This is in response to the following link provided above in AmericangirlinItaly article (BTW-excellent article-thanks for the links!) http://web.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/04/obama_rally_call_has_s_c_naacp_roots26614/ “Fired Up! Ready to Go!” is from the NAACP in South Carolina, used by Jondelle Harris Johnson in the Civil Rights marches. Is Sen Obama’s past record an indication of how good Sen Obama has been-really- for African Americans? I wonder what the NAACP thinks about this?

James Baldwin -in “The Fire Next Time” writes a letter to his nephew James.(Page 7 1993 edition) in an effort to provide the young African American 15 year old boy with some insight as to what he will face …AND MUST FACE…as he grows up in our society.

“This innocent country set you down in a ghetto in which, in fact, it intended that you should perish.Let me spell out precisely what I mean by that, for the heart of the matter is here, and the root of my dispute with my country.You were born where you were born and faced the future that you faced because you were black and for no other reason”.

What would the honorable James Baldwin say if he were alive today and saw what Sen Obama did to his own people in District 13 in Chicago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baldwin_%28writer%29

PLEASE EDUCATE YOUR FELLOW VOTERS.

http://vodpod.com/watch/857180-why-chicagoans-are-against-obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-YoB5mnZs&eurl=http://formerobamasupporters.com/

This is in response to the following link provided above in AmericangirlinItaly article (BTW-excellent article-thanks for the links!)

http://web.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/04/obama_rally_call_has_s_c_naacp_roots26614/

“Fired Up! Ready to Go!” is from the NAACP in South Carolina, used by Jondelle Harris Johnson in the Civil Rights marches.

]]> By: Athy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/comment-page-2/#comment-481173 Athy Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:11:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/seriously-is-obama-just-a-puppet/#comment-481173 Wait a minute....Who is doing what for Sen Obama? Do I see a 'shift' occurring? The more important, crucial people in Sen Obama's campaign are being kept from public view and newer faces are being presented to the public as being the REAL brains behind the Obama campaign? Is Sen Obama undergoing a 'makeover' in effort to 'clean up' his image? Is he trying to convince the public that hard work and ethics got him to where he is today versus good old CHicago politics and bare-knuckled, possibly illegal-definetely unethical campaign tactics? To understand who is really behind Obama, research pre-12/07 period. Lead speechwriter-Sorenson or Favreau or both SORENSON http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4259093&page=1 Passing the Torch: Kennedy’s Touch on Obama’s Words- Ted Sorensen, Legendary Speechwriter, Lends Support, Eloquence to Democratic Contender By Susan Donaldson James, 2/8/08 ABC News. FAVREAU http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?ex=1358485200&en=bb179297e5f61acb&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss What Would Obama Say? Jon Favreau, chief speechwriter to Senator Barack Obama, at work the night of the New Hampshire primary. By ASHLEY PARKER, NYTimes, 1/20/08 ***************************************************** Lead campaign manager- Axelrod or Plouffe-or BOTH AXELROD David Axelrod-Sen Obama”s campaign manager- has a stellar reputation for advising his black candidates on how to “shape” their message & attacks in such a way to win over the white sympathy votes and black anger votes http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304 http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070219/hayes “Obama”s Media Maven” by Chrisptoher Hayes. 2/19/08 issue PLOUFFE http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-plouffe8-2008jul08,0,4482990.story "David Plouffe is the man steering Obama's campaign" By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times , July 8, 2008 Political strategists say David Plouffe is smart, competitive, confident and frugal. And they say he has no intention of straying from his unconventional and audacious strategy to get Barack Obama elected. Wait a minute….Who is doing what for Sen Obama? Do I see a ’shift’ occurring? The more important, crucial people in Sen Obama’s campaign are being kept from public view and newer faces are being presented to the public as being the REAL brains behind the Obama campaign?

Is Sen Obama undergoing a ‘makeover’ in effort to ‘clean up’ his image? Is he trying to convince the public that hard work and ethics got him to where he is today versus good old CHicago politics and bare-knuckled, possibly illegal-definetely unethical campaign tactics? To understand who is really behind Obama, research pre-12/07 period.

Lead speechwriter-Sorenson or Favreau or both

SORENSON

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4259093&page=1

Passing the Torch: Kennedy’s Touch on Obama’s Words- Ted Sorensen, Legendary Speechwriter, Lends Support, Eloquence to Democratic Contender
By Susan Donaldson James, 2/8/08 ABC News.

FAVREAU

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?ex=1358485200&en=bb179297e5f61acb&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

What Would Obama Say? Jon Favreau, chief speechwriter to Senator Barack Obama, at work the night of the New Hampshire primary.

By ASHLEY PARKER, NYTimes, 1/20/08
*****************************************************
Lead campaign manager- Axelrod or Plouffe-or BOTH

AXELROD

David Axelrod-Sen Obama”s campaign manager- has a stellar reputation for advising his black candidates on how to “shape” their message & attacks in such a way to win over the white sympathy votes and black anger votes

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070219/hayes “Obama”s Media Maven” by Chrisptoher Hayes. 2/19/08 issue

PLOUFFE

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-plouffe8-2008jul08,0,4482990.story

“David Plouffe is the man steering Obama’s campaign” By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times , July 8, 2008

Political strategists say David Plouffe is smart, competitive, confident and frugal. And they say he has no intention of straying from his unconventional and audacious strategy to get Barack Obama elected.

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