Censorship a la Daily Kos
By Charles Lemos on July 22, 2008 at 8:30 PM in Cultist Thugs, Cyber Attacks, Daily Kos, Media, Media Handling of Story
Let me start off by saying that I have never been a fan of the DailyKos. Something about that site always made me uneasy and I have rarely frequented it. My intuition was confirmed this past January when the DailyKos started advocating that Democrats in the state of Michigan cross over into the Republican primary and disrupt the democratic process by voting for Mitt Romney so as to prolong the GOP contest. In my book, that’s not just wrong and reprehensible but it strikes at the core of the rights of conscience. One votes one’s conscience. To actively disrupt an election makes you a thug. I monitor elections the world over and I have never heard of such an obscene effrontery to the democratic process. I am offended. The DailyKos is no better than the right it claims to abhor.
So now comes this disturbing piece of news:
The Austin American-Statesman caved to pressure from the Daily Kos-Netroots Nation and pulled an article from the newspaper’s website that poked fun at the liberal convention being held in Austin last weekend.
The article, entitled Gore’s Surprise Visit Highlights Netroots Conference was published on the front page of Sunday’s paper.
It was written by feature writer, Patrick Beach–meaning the article was not a straight news piece (think Dana Milbank.)
Greg Mitchell, a writer for Editor & Publisher who blogs at the Daily Kos, attended the conference as a panel speaker.
He brought attention to the article by posting about it at Daily Kos. Mitchell says that Austin Kossacks, who claimed to know people at the American-Statesman, promised to “work their magic” on the paper.
By Monday the article was pulled from the American-Statesman’s website, with the message: “The page you’ve requested is not available.”
An editor’s note by Editor Fred Zipp was posted to the American-Statesman’s website Tuesday:
“Readers expect front-page stories to speak directly and clearly about events and issues. Eliminating the possibility of misunderstanding from our work is a critical part of our daily newsroom routine. When we communicate in a way that could be misinterpreted, we fail to meet our standards.
“Our front-page story Sunday about the Netroots Nation convention included doses of irony and exaggeration. It made assertions (that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might find herself at home politically in Beijing, for example) and characterizations (”marauding liberals” was one) meant to amuse. For many readers, we failed.
“In trying for a humorous take on the Netroots phenomenon without labeling it something other than a straightforward news story, we compromised our standards.”
Rather than re-label the story on the web version, the cowards at the American-Statesman gave in to the Kossacks and pulled the article entirely. So much for liberals’ respect for the First Amendment.
Here’s the article from the cache at the Austin American-Statesman that the DailyKos tried to quash.
Gore’s surprise visit highlights Netroots conference
Former vice president speaks at Austin convention for liberal bloggers.
By Patrick BeachAMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Sunday, July 20, 2008
Name-dropping Al Gore and his call for a switch to clean, renewable energy within 10 years was enough to pull whoops of approval from the 2,000 or 3,000 marauding liberals gathered for Netroots Nation at the Austin Convention Center on Saturday morning.
So when the former vice president and Nobel Prize co-winner made a surprise — and cleverly scripted — appearance during U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s talk, it looked like the conference might turn into a faint-in.
Talk that Pelosi (who is arguably so left-leaning that her parenthetical should be D-Beijing) would have a Very Special Guest had been buzzing about the conference of liberal bloggers, pols and media types since it began Thursday (it concludes today). But it wasn’t clear to attendees that something was afoot until a schedule change handed out Saturday morning indicated the speaker’s talk would last 45 minutes longer than previously indicated.
Not that Gore’s appearance was necessary to whip up the troops.
From the beginning, it was clear these people were convinced the electoral map would be repainted with a brush sopping with blue paint come November.
The believers will tell you it’s morning, that they smell the napalm. And it smells like, oh, yes, victory.
It didn’t seem to matter that the conservative and much smaller Defending the American Dream Summit — featuring syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin and Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr — was going on in Austin at the same time. That was miles from downtown, so there was little chance for a rumble.
With the current administration’s low approval rating, a charismatic presumptive Democratic nominee and a Republican opponent some in the GOP have been reluctant to even air-kiss, the energy was palpable and, like the political blogosphere, terribly self-confirming.
They went to panels about how the presidential election would be won house by house, block by block. They staged mock media interviews and critiqued themselves, and showed films (”Crawford”) and Internet videos (”Harry Potter and Dark Lord Waldemart”). They attended panels on the war, health care, online social networks, volunteer organizing and expanding the networking power of something called an “Internet.”
There was even one panel Friday featuring Princeton economics professor and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman (wearing, as if to galvanize stereotype, what appeared to be Birkenstocks) that was essentially about how the media weren’t liberal enough.
As they say, only in Austin.
Filmmaker Paul Stekler, who teaches film production and politics at the University of Texas, said:”As you have greater democratization (through the use of technology to distribute one’s message), you also have a greater degree of what’s called confirmation bias. We live in a very different and weird world in terms of dissemination of information right now.”
Indeed, you couldn’t find anybody who disagreed that President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were “two ignoramuses,” a label hurled by Parag Mehta, the Democratic National Committee’s director of training.
Big names? Got ‘em. There was Markos Moulitsas Zúniga, founder of the Daily Kos political blog, who hatched the idea a few years ago to get his like-minded pals together and who, in a Friday lunchtime keynote with Harold Ford Jr., chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, seemed amazed at what the notion had unleashed.
“We’re going to keep growing; we’re going to keep pushing for an unapologetic Democratic Party,” Moulitsas said.
Then there was John Dean, the former Nixon White House counsel who has made a second career of railing against what he considers right-wing excesses the way recovering alcoholics preach against strong drink.
“I have deep fear of my former tribe, and what they might do particularly in the law,” Dean said, before going on to refer to former Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani as “Richard Nixon on crystal meth.”
It’s plinking bass in a barrel to paint liberals as overly intellectual types incapable of having fun unless reading Noam Chomsky counts, and it sure does for them. And there were a handful of colorful characters, including some men from Cedar Creek who looked like bikers and represented the Warrior Wolf Society, which they described as “a group of pagan warriors with wolf totem spirit,” and a guy in a Bush mask and clothing with prison stripes.
But for the most part, these were serious-minded people, and decorum prevailed.
When a few people had the temerity to shout at Pelosi and Gore, they got shushed as mercilessly as they would have at a Nanci Griffith concert.
The no fun thing? Maybe it’s because, as Democrats, they’re not used to having it.
The incredible imploding presidential campaigns of Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and John Kerry were used as textbook examples of what not to do. As political ad man John Rowley put it, he’s been in the business for 15 years and only the last two have been good in terms of the political tide. Still, he said, “We’ve got to get ready for the day when we’re not swimming downstream.”
In other words, what a pendulum does is swing. But technology is power, and the left has been quicker to adopt it. As Gore put it Saturday morning:
“You are at the cutting edge of a new era of history. You will look back many years from now and tell your grandchildren about coming here to Austin, Texas, and about the first two meetings of Netroots Nation, and you will tell them that this was the beginning of an effort that was the start to reclaim the integrity of American democracy.”
That is exactly what Joe Trippi had in mind. It was the one-time Howard Dean campaign aide who saw, perhaps a little too early and a little too enthusiastically, the transformative power of the Web. As he walked from one place to another Friday afternoon, he got stopped every 20 feet or so by people who knew him or at least knew of his ideas. And this is what they had wrought; this is what he had predicted.
“It’s amazing,” Trippi said. “I knew it was going to happen, but I’m still blown away that it happened.”
The article is clearly over the top. It was written by a feature writer, not a political beat reporter. If complaints should take the form of a letter to the editor. That’s normal civic discourse. This is tantamount to censorship. These people at the DailyKos are a danger and a threat to dissent. They are no better than the right that they claim to abhor. Who are these people? The short answer, they are the Obama mob, his orange shirts. They are an enemy of the democratic process.
From my blog, By The Fault.
This is tantamount to censorship. These people at the DailyKos are a danger and a threat to dissent.
It is not much different from how Obama won the primary. They hijacked the caucus states and controlled the process.
You can only imagine how Kos feels after so many candidates he was backing lost. At this point, he would do anything to win one election to make himself appear relevant.
A troll on the last thread played the race card again and talked about how the new generation basically is in and the rest of us are out. The new generation needs to be taught some damn manners, right from wrong and what DEMOCRACY is.
It’s funny how kids think they are teaching us! Sorry kids, but there is no substitute for experience.
So young…and yet they’ve already filled the world with crappy songs and totally screwed up the Democratic Party.
Obama Bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzu0hmW6pY
Funny. ;.)
LOL Perry. Sad but true.
Pfft! Sing songs? (A) They don’t “sing” and (B) what they have is not “songs”. They do words, Just Words.
Great Statement. Totally agree.
Hey now!
Not ALL of us in the young’un class is on the O-Pony.
23-year old PUMA here. No way, no how for Obama. The DNC stole my Michiganian, Democratic vote.
You rock! See the thing is, you are probably not on the bong, so you can recognize bullcrap when you see it.
I have to agree.
My sons 26, 25, and 19 are all rabidly anti-Bush but will not vote for Obama. I am very surprised but pleased that they are all able to think for themselves.
When PUMA started, I didn’t mention it to them for obvious reasons but my 25 year old really started complaining about how FAKE Obama is and how one of his friends is crazy in love with him.
It work in Germany in the 30’s,its called propaganda. Just a little bit of history repeating. Just say nobama.
I respect Markos Moulitsas service to our country. Unlike many anti-war Liberals, he’s actually served in the military.
Markos from what I’ve seen elsewhere is an engaging guy when he wants to be.
Like the NY Times, it seems that many of these newspapers will fold if they don’t tow the Liberal socialist agenda.
A loss for America.
He did a three year tour, which was good for him and the country. It likely matured him, somewhat–he should have reenlisted, he could have used more seasoning, IMO.
Don’t overblow his contribution, though, he wasn’t (thankfully, really) “Generation Kill”–unless pounding the floors of the discos as a nineteen year old in Bamberg, Germany can be viewed as hazardous duty. I don’t see any mention of his participating in Desert Storm or Shield, he seems to have just missed that? Then again, that was a big tryout for the reserves, more than the active duty forces, most of whom stayed in the rear with the gear.
Lucky lad. Timing is everything, I suppose.
I am a strong supporter of national service, myself–if you don’t want to go to war, AMERICORPS, PEACE CORPS, City Year, or even work in a hospital or in some other capacity helping your fellow humans, even if it’s just mowing the lawn or mopping the floors. It’s character-building. It also teaches a bit of basic responsibility, and apparently, a lot of these pringles munching NIKES aren’t getting that at home for some reason….
Censorship isn’t a new thing for this Markos guy, either, though. He booted that rather hyperbolic and raving (but no more than some of his favorites) gold star mother Cindy Sheehan off his site because she was running against Pelosi.
He also, as Pam’s House Blend notes, isn’t, apparently, much of a friend to black bloggers, either, in her view:
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6054
Pam wasn’t ‘feeling’ that attitude. Can’t blame her. She notes:
Ouch. Trouble in paradise…already! I think Pam is jumping the gun on her assumption that Obama will cruise to inauguration, but I suppose supporters tend to be that way. But apparently there’s not as much KUMBAYA going on as we might have thought. Pam wants to crash Markos’s WHITEOSPHERE party!
To remove this article, which by the way, had very little irony in it, because a group at Dailykos objected to it, was absurd. Your premise is correct. The extreme left is no better than the extreme right when it comes to censorship. They only respect those who are lockstep in thought. I have come to despise these people more than the rightwing. My next comment may get some people mad with me, but I dislike the extreme left more than the extreme right, and this is coming from a lifelong Democrat. I say this because I believe that at least the rightwing acknowledges God, and I believe they are inclined to love the US, warts and all, while the extreme left is NEVER satisfied about anything concerning the US.
Coming from a recently Ex-Dem, I have to agree. I don’t consider myself anywhere near a rightwing, I obviously lean lefty. However, I am so disillusioned by the DNC, I feel betrayed, and I feel helpless. I love God, I love my country, I love my neighbors (no matter what culture, what country, what color, what religion). I am so fearful of Obama and what he and his “disciples” are doing to democracy, and how they are affecting (or potentially affecting) our rights as Americans, our freedom of speech, etc. I fear even writing this comment, as it seems anyone anti-obama is targeted. I have real fears of an Obama administration. I have 4 boys, two in college, two in high school. What will “8 to 10 years” of Obama mean for them? The Draft? Suppression? I can’t even sleep most nights thinking about it. Does anyone else out there have these fears? Am I being overly dramatic?
I think the main problem with Obama is he’ll get in over his head, because he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about or what he’s doing. He’ll start out small, shit will hit the fan, and we’ll probably end up like the Russkies in Afghanistan–up to our asses in it.
The French told Kennedy to stay the fuck away from Vietnam, but could he do it? Nooooooo! He started out sending just a few advisors, then a few Green Berets…next thing ya know, there’s fifty eight thousand names on a wall and Nixon and Kissinger are bullshitting us with phrases like PEACE WITH HONOR and farting around about round tables in Paris trying to end that stupid misadventure.
When they compare Kennedy to Obama, I think about DeGaulle, a snooty but wise old warrior, telling JFK that the former French Indochina was a hellhole trap, and to avoid it at all costs.
And Kennedy NOT LISTENING.
Obama, like his adoring acolytes, doesn’t know his geography or his history. It’s not even a question of not listening…it’s a problem of NOT KNOWING.
When you don’t know your geography, you get lost, and when you don’t know your history, you repeat it.
He’s trouble.
You’re correct the left wing is far more dangerous - because they don’t have loyalty to country. It isn’t about country right or wrong — either.
The left apparently wants to get rid of anyone who disagrees with their world view. They do have a god of sorts because they want to eliminate (terminate) anyone who disagrees — just like the religious right wants to eliminate groups of people who displease the right wing nut jobs. Both groups censor and harass others who get in their way.
It is the Authoritarian personality types of both the left and the right who are dangerous. Ironically both extremes were meeting in Texas in the same metro area.
Thanks for posting the censored article — the reporter did a fairly good job of giving us a taste of the atmosphere and attitude of the Netroots attendees. In fact I’d say he was being a journalist — not highly critical or pandering.
That would be — thanks to Charles Lemos for posting the censored article!!
You are absolutely right about this.
Ironically, I read John Dean’s book about the authoritarian personality type. It fits the NN types perfectly.
The authoritarians on the right gave us Dubya. The authoritarians on the left … let’s hope the supers wake up in time.
Well, I am a lefty. And I served my country, too, in time of war. And I love my country, enough to point out when I think it’s on the wrong track and fucking up.
I supported Senator Clinton’s candidacy, and I have never voted for a Republican in my life. Yet, anyway.
I don’t consider myself to be dangerous–neither “more” or “less” than any thinking American.
So that argument of yours is a bit specious.
I think people who take things to EXTREMES, be they lefty or righty, are problematic because they turn off their reasoning skills and simply parrot the list of “approved” beliefs. They get so wrapped up in their halfassed ideologies that they can’t see the forest for the trees.
Be careful with that broad brush you seem to be waving around–you might get some on you. Anyone who suspends judgment is “dangerous.” Not just those from one side of the line.
I agree that its the extremists, the fanatics on both left and right who create/are the dangerous tipping points.
Thats why so many of us more centrist people, Dems and Repubs see the dangers of Obama, just like we recognized the dangers of Bush.
“No socialist system can be established without a political police.”
- Churchill
Goes right along with the NY Times refusing to publish McCaine’s op ed - and issuing a lengthy statement to the President candidate of what they want him to say for them to be willing to print it - yet they printed bo’s bs, without a glitch or correction.
Same censorship. Political police indeed. And they have the nerve to say how Democratic they are. Bizarre how the most common of words in our language have been turned into totally different (and inverted) meanings in the last six months. It’s as if they think if they use all the “right” words- they can get away with doing just about anything.
Political Police?
Is this what Obama was talking about when he said we needed a citizen military as strong as the govt. military?
I tend to agree with you.
The extreme left are such a bunch of snobs! They are the ones who would let you die in the street if you were hurt. I’ve met many die hard republican far right wingers who would give you the shirt off their back.
The left has gone too far left. They are now a close minded clique of non thinkers. Shame.
Oh well, the heart of the party is still here and we are gaining fast!
My kids watch South Park, and there is a great episode about “smug” people. It is a caricature of the far left and pretty hysterical. They even love the smell of their own f*rts. Check it out. Sounds a lot like the Kos Krew.
The “left” hasn’t gone “too far left.” A few loudmouths are making a lot of noise, is all.
I’m a lefty, and I refused to get on the Obama train. And I am STILL a lefty. I think a strong and powerful country should take care of the least of their brethren–care for the sick, help the poor, shelter the weak and elderly, that kind of “lefty” shit. My views haven’t changed on that score.
Just because a few crazyass people have decided to be vociferous about their support for a neophyte flash-in-the-pan candidate, don’t think everyone in the LEFTY column is along for their stupid little ride.
I didn’t leave my lefty roots. A small group of KoolAid drinkers have marched off with the party platform, but that doesn’t make ME a righty as a consequence.
I’m still where I’ve always been.
And I’m with you, Clinton Fan — a lefty who refused to drink the Kool Aid. I like your POV, as well as Rosee’s above.
And I’m skipping the top line on the ballot in November, if Obama’s coronated in Denver. Will always vote only Dem, but don’t have to vote for EVERY Dem. Certainly not The One with less than year’s national experience (the rest of his Senate term having been spent campaigning for President).
Hell, LB, vote for Cynthia McKinney, then. She may be a little “out there,” but she is an African American AND a woman who put her money where her mouth is on issue of the war. It gives you room to stiff-arm those bastards who suggest your vote is racially motivated, too.
So what if she tussles with the Cap police–it makes her “colorful” and “interesting!”
No pretty speeches or flipflopping talk from our fiesty Cynthia, either–remember, she was physically SHUNNED by her peers for her antiwar vote.
Obama tries to have it both ways–he pretends he’s a lefty on the war, then turns around and says things like “I don’t know how I would have voted,” and “We could be there LONGER IF THE GENERALS SAY SO…”
And of course, he voted FOR FISA.
If Cynthia won, I’d shit bricks, but I think she is a fine “protest candidate.” And the likelihood that she will win is equal to the likelihood that I will win, so she’s useful to make a point.
Don’t leave the top line blank, though. If you can’t bring yourself to vote for McKinney, vote for YOURSELF as a write-in candidate. Surely you could do a better job than the “Presumptuous” Democratic nominee!
Don’t let them think you’re an undervote–don’t give the opportunity to some craven, cheating election official to grab a pencil and fill in your oval “for” you. Cast a vote, even if you write in BOZO THE CLOWN, or LASSIE. Or “None of the above, because they all suck.” But don’t leave it blank!!
I am also with you. It’s THEM who betrayed their principles for some taste of power. They put up with election stealing,Reagan adoration, fuzzy war ending, FISA, faith based programs. I didn’t. Wouldn’t. Still believe in the same things which is why I’ll fight B0 with everything I got.
Correct-a-mundo. The liberal left never is satisfied with anything. They are perpetually disgruntled and need something to complain about in order to feel worthwhile, fulfilled. I believe that’s why the extreme left always supports candidates who are certain to lose. If they won, they’d have to stop being disgruntled and then would have nothing to live for. The right wingers have many terrible faults, but being perpetual complainers is not one of them. The right likes to win.
The rightfully titled “Dailykos hate site” has a history of promoting censorship against those
whom they disagree with.
They’re an ugly little cult.
Unfortunately for those of us who formerly LOVED being a part of Daily Kos, it WAS hijacked by Mob Obama in January and, watching it sink in the Alexa ratings and watching the number of comments shrink across the board, I’m thinking Markos will eventually see the error of his ways in turning over his site to rabid cultists. But, by then, it may only be one of many top political communities and no longer the premier one.
The other day the New York Times editor told a presidential candidate what he could say. Today it is the Daily Kos that tells the American Statesmen what it can print. Boy do I hear the jack boots. I am a Hillary Clinton supporter but I am first an ardent supporter of the Constitution and democracy. The following is an email I sent to the New York Times regarding their refusal to print Senator McCain’s op-ed piece. It also applies to the Daily Kos and to the American Statesmen.
“It breaks my heart to see your once proud newspaper whose motto was “All the News that is Fit to Print” now have the Motto “All the News We are Paid to Print.” Publisher’s wonder why people do not buy newspapers. The answer is very simple - newspapers no longer deal with news but have become propaganda, advertising and public relations pieces.
My God, how dare a mere editor chastise a candidate for the President of the United States. What blatant arrogance. Who is in charge at the New York Times?
Joseph Goebbels would be proud; Benjamin Franklin would be ashamed.”
I did sign it politely.
Some more fans of netkooks:
Quotes from Bartcop:
“Kos is the one person who Harold Ford could probably beat up. That those two nitwits are “leaders”
of Democratic factions is sad testament to the decay of the party. Can’t see how the netroots can claim
victory when Obama is more centrist than the past two nominees and uncle Howard.”
— Swing Low, reporting from the Kos convention
“Oh good grief. Markos is preening again????? For God’s sake…it was Markos who supported
all those 2006 Blue Dogs who have now aligned themselves with Obama’s YES vote on FISA,
including Jim Webb and Claire McCaskill. They’ve all moved TOWARDS Harold Ford, and AWAY
from the primadonna Kos. Basically, it was Markos who got played like a drum during the primaries.
Obama doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ what Daily Kos says. Got that?”
— Mary, reporting from the Kos convention”
Netkooks gave us obama.
What’s funny is, all the uber-lefties used to whine about the “DEEE ELLL CEEE” like it was the DEVIL or something. Those freaky leftists used to insist that Third Way politics was “pandering to the right.” Hillary Clinton and Harold Ford were “eeeeevil” because they were “DLC.”
Now, they’re supporting Mister Ethnic, Barack “I Can Be Everything To Everyone, I Am A Blank Slate” Obama, and he makes those Third Way accomodators look like potsmoking “hell no” hippies. His FISA vote is just one hideous example of how far to the right he’ll travel to suit his own purposes. And Jim Webb is an interesting fellow, but he’s a fucking disgusted Republican, for all intents and purposes. His affiliation with the Democratic Party is a marriage of convenience (and he’s been married several times, so he could get a bug up his ass and ask for a divorce without batting an eye, I’m sure, if it suited him).
It just amazes me how little they know of the POLITICS of the people they place up on a pedestal to worship. They don’t go beyond the surface…they’re so easily…CONNED.
I just don’t get how they justify that shit in their brains, without their heads exploding. These are the same positions they whined about awhile ago, but when “Barack” says the same shit, it’s “Oh, well, he’s just saying that to get elected…he doesn’t MEEEEEAN it, we KNOOOOW him!”
Fools! That’s what idiots said about Nixon! And at least Nixon has a grasp of foreign policy issues!
I believe in God almighty, and HIS way is OUR way. I believe that Barrack Obama COULD be the ANTI-CHRIST. If he is, I want him as President. To see my LORD JESUS CHRIST descending from HEAVEN is worth a few years of THE BEAST running the WORLD. I am not a spam person. I am serious. Please, TRUE CHRISTIANS, do not prevent him from ascending his FALSE thrown. DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM, but please DO NOT VOTE AGAINST HIM. Jesus is coming soon and this IS A SIGN.
YOU ARE RIGHT IN YOUR FEAR OF OBAMA BUT IT IS A EVIL WE NEED FOR SALVATION! GOD bless you all!
*Twirling finger around ear*
True Christians don’t promote the Anti-Christ on the Internet.
Good grief.
Now Barack Obama will claim HE is the reason for the Second Coming.
If Barack Hussein Obama is the Second Coming of anything, it’s Hitler.
I agree.
But if you’re an Obot, and you want to make an impression on another site, you post here, then cut and paste onto that other site. Then you prance around saying, “I told you so! I told you so! I knew those NQ posters were Repug, righty, bible thumpin’ racists!” This post proves it!
It’s been done before.
I am just a person spreading the WORD. I don’t know if I am right about Obama, but I am waiting for my LORD. I don’t mean to offend anhyone but I am very passionate about this. I have just been trying to tell people that voting is no match for the power of our LORD. God Bless!
If you’re going to represent Christ and spread His Word, educate yourself first so you can speak intelligently.
Regurgitating hysterical rumors about Obama misleads young believers and turns off unbelievers.
Set a good example. Read the scriptures. Know your material.
And don’t apologize for your beliefs. Own them!
No you aren’t. You’re a pimple-faced little Koolaid drinking shithead, and you need to get lost.
Your mom is calling–go take out that trash.
I am a true Christian, and I am not promoting the anti CHRIST. I say let GODS WILL be DONE. RENDER TO CAESAR WHAT IS CAESRS!
Barack Obama is not the Antichrist. Go read your Bible. You might learn a few things.
Yeah, idiot–that means stay the fuck out of politics.
Log off and go pray that your mother bought more Hotpockets, fatso.
Thanks but I`ll wait for the movie.
Anti-Christ? That’s over the top! So were, Edward Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, back in the day.
There’s only one Anti-Christ and that’s Marilyn Manson!
Comment by His Sacrifice | 2008-07-22 21:14:57
I believe in God almighty, and HIS way is OUR way. I believe that Barrack Obama COULD be the ANTI-CHRIST. If he is, I want him as President. To see my LORD JESUS CHRIST descending from HEAVEN is worth a few years of THE BEAST running the WORLD. I am not a spam person. I am serious. Please, TRUE CHRISTIANS, do not prevent him from ascending his FALSE thrown. DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM, but please DO NOT VOTE AGAINST HIM. Jesus is coming soon and this IS A SIGN.
YOU ARE RIGHT IN YOUR FEAR OF OBAMA BUT IT IS A EVIL WE NEED FOR SALVATION! GOD bless you all!
Obambi is affirmative action on Cocaine.
Please get back on your meds.
“Please, TRUE CHRISTIANS, do not prevent him from ascending his FALSE thrown. DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM, but please DO NOT VOTE AGAINST HIM. ”
Oh come now, if the supreme court figured out how to rig an election in 2000, surely God could, too?
I’m trying to prevent the DNC from nominating Obama and that’s hard enough! If it’s God’s will to have Obama in there as the antichrist, I’m going to just have to throw in the towel, LOL.
That’s fucking idiotic.
If you’re going to pretend to be a fundy fruitcake, you need to be a bit more specific–quote a little chapter and verse. Of course, that requires that you study the Bible, but of course that’s WORK, and Team Obama doesn’t do that shit. You’re unsuccessful there, Chubby, in trying to create an impression that fundy fruitcakes patronize this corner of the http://WWW.
They don’t, because they render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s–ergo, your lame effort is unconvincing. And if they did decide to come out and participate here (unlikely in the extreme), they’d know how to spell THRONE, since it’s a popular word with them.
If Axelrod is paying you for spewing this kind of shit, he’s getting ripped off.
If you’re doing it on your own, you’re an idiot. You’re an idiot anyway, but you’re showing your idiocy to the world with that moronic post.
Your mother is calling you, she wants you to take out the trash. Put down the greasy, saturated-fat chips and the Red Bull, push your fat, flaccid ass away from the computer, and go help mom. Go run the lawn mower around, the yard probably needs mowing too, punk. You could use the exercise.
I just watched an obama ad on his website. He talks about how “if one voice can change a city, it can change a state, change a country, and change the world.”
That’s true. Jesus did that, and we can do that too. Sometimes it takes a sacrifice. I say we all withhold our vote this election, and let GOD’s Will prevail. Hold true to our Heavenly Father and all will be peace.
I wasn’t referring to any anti-Christ by mentioning this ad!
You are on the wrong site. Try this one.
http://www.watchtower.org/
Yeah, one voice alright- meaning one propaganda line broadcast through all available paid-off media incessantly until its toxic message is beat into every passive brain within earshot, then reverberated through the echo chamber of the mass unconsciousness of our culture.
One voice one mind - OR ELSE
I’m surprised they had Krugman.
He is far above those idiots.
Also, he never felt the Obama magic, preferring Clinton, instead.
omg…..i just heard howard wolfson, hillarys communications director, to tell sean hannity to “get over it about obama”……there seems to be zero loyalty in this “new” democratic party……enough is enough ! i am really done with them forever, what a bunch of losers led by the skinny loser. i am disgusted.
KOS Netroots Nation, that’s freak’in hilarious, these are the same dolts who posted a FAKE Obambi birth certificate, lol. Freak’in amateurs.
Let’s face it, Kos is nothing more than a vomitorium.
Good evening, gang! I received a lovely email from Hillary Clinton tonight. Here’s an excerpt, enjoy!
“In the weeks, months, and years to come, I won’t let my dedication to our values waver and by fighting to make sure Barack Obama is our next President we will finally have a Democrat in the White House who is also dedicated to the things we care so deeply about. I’m going to work as hard as I can between now and November to help Barack Obama win the White House and Democrats win bigger majorities in Congress. I hope you will continue to fight with me because together, if we don’t back down and don’t give up we can make all the difference.”
Uh-huh.
Hillary is doing what she said she’d do??!! OMFG!! Stop the presses!
Show us the “lovely e-mail” from Bill saying the same thing. (Didn’t think so.)
If Hillary really was doing everything in her power to help Obama into the WH, she would have told him to shut up ages ago. He’s his own worst enemy.
That’s the difference between “us” and “you”. You sheeple will follow your leader, even if it leads you off the cliff. We, on the other hand, think for ourselves and NO ONE tells us how to vote.
Got it? Keep following, sheep….right on over that cliff.
I got an e-mail from HRC today and it didn’t say any such thing.
i got an e-mail from hillary too, and it didnt say anything about obama.
Well at least they admit that Kos is their base. This keeps everybody else who isn’t hanging off a left cliff from wondering if they should subscribe.
You are very right about one thing, Charles: Kos is an example of a “movement” that is no different than the far right Fascists. Extreme-Left Fascism is just as alive and well. They are the same coin, actually. They would lie, threaten, thwart, block dissent and pretty much do anything excuse their candidate. I see no difference between the two factions in behavior. In fact, this is all deja vu. Think Bush and his sycophants. The amazing thing is they don’t even recognize they have become the very thing they criticized. Freepers wearing red caps.
Markos served during Desert Storm, never actually ended up being in the big fight(artillery, IIRC) but he was definitely commited to the idea of serving.
For said reason he considered himself a republican as well. He’s still leaning to the political right.
No wonder he’s on the Obama bandwagon.
Disclaimer: I blog there on occasion, though not in some time.
He was nineteen, defending the discos of Bamberg, Germany against any incursion by Saddam’s Republican Guard.
If those discos were any like the ones of Beruit, that Osama got his start in, during Rummy’s disgraceful 80’s episode there, then we could be concerned….
Oh, a guy in the town where I was going to pick up scripts for a relative for some time, had an armed forces retired, who was Saddam’s cab driver. In DC and Maryland when he came here as a guest of Ronald Reagan, his orders were to drive Saddam around to whatever bars or restaurants he wanted to visit, in addition to the diplomatic visits, etc.
WHAT? And didn’t the “Presumptuous Nominee” say we poor bastards didn’t NEED a gas tax holiday?
Talk about do as I say, not as I do…
There’s your fucking politburo at play…
We need to get this through to everyone: the Obama Pods are DANGEROUS.
They loath democracy. They loath every ideal most Americans hold dear.
I think they like Democracy. They can manipulate the masses. Direct Democracy allows them to put pressure, use coercion to demand consensus for their agenda. Obama is a demogogue. He thinks he is the agent of change. But to do that we must submit to his will. Through mass hysteria and mob rule he will govern. Whatever he speaks, his will, his thugs will enforce.
obama fell in love with the sound of his own voice. enough said!
I live in Austin and I stayed as far away from the love-fest this past weekend as I could; namely, because anyone who differed from the Obama-orgy taking place would be vilified.
The Statesman stupidly endorsed Obama and I am not surprised they pulled this story, lest it negatively reflect on the chosen one’s followers. You have to remember, our ex-mayor, Watson, when interviewed about his endorsement for Obama, could not come up with one thing substan