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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s New TV Ad</title>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501964</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew we could agree!

Until then we have to bridge the gap so that America doesn't end up on the scrap heap of history.</description>
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<p>Until then we have to bridge the gap so that America doesn&#8217;t end up on the scrap heap of history.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501936</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whoever controls the middle east controls the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is true only so long as we stubbornly hang on to an increasingly problematic petroleum-based energy economy.  Once we get away from that, we're free from their control.  And we stop funding the very people who are opposing us by sending them the wealth of America in return for their oil.    

We would be in an entirely new geopolitical environment.  &lt;em&gt;We&lt;/em&gt; would be calling the shots again for our own nation.  

It's all about our unnecessary energy dependence.  &lt;em&gt;All&lt;/em&gt; of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whoever controls the middle east controls the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is true only so long as we stubbornly hang on to an increasingly problematic petroleum-based energy economy.  Once we get away from that, we&#8217;re free from their control.  And we stop funding the very people who are opposing us by sending them the wealth of America in return for their oil.    </p>
<p>We would be in an entirely new geopolitical environment.  <em>We</em> would be calling the shots again for our own nation.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about our unnecessary energy dependence.  <em>All</em> of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501887</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indiana..
I love how you respond!
By saying you respectfully disagree with me shows how smart and gracious you are!
I appreciate that!!

Having said that, I think his latest commercial is great and my wife loved it even more.

Country First!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiana..<br />
I love how you respond!<br />
By saying you respectfully disagree with me shows how smart and gracious you are!<br />
I appreciate that!!</p>
<p>Having said that, I think his latest commercial is great and my wife loved it even more.</p>
<p>Country First!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ferdberfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferdberfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophistication? The obamatrons can't put together two coherent words without creating a malaprop. They need direction from the Anointed One.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophistication? The obamatrons can&#8217;t put together two coherent words without creating a malaprop. They need direction from the Anointed One.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501872</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking about how people will likely react to ads that rely more on &lt;em&gt;negative spin&lt;/em&gt; than on &lt;em&gt;negative fact&lt;/em&gt;.  John's ads are trying to push a &lt;em&gt;conclusion&lt;/em&gt; on people.  It works better to present facts that suggest something, and then allow people to &lt;em&gt;draw the conclusion themselves&lt;/em&gt;.  This is pretty basic stuff.  

The increased sophistication I was referring to has to do with the fact that people are less trusting in general now of televised media coverage, political advertising, and internet content.  They descriminate better than they did four years ago because they've had four more years of experience with the methodologies of the new media.  And certainly with political manipulation.  

The McCain ads in question would have played a lot better four years ago.  Now the term "swiftboating" is on the tip of everybody's tongue--a verb that didn't even exist four years past.  

My guess is we won't see the ads go national because the McCain team will analyze the feedback data and figure this out.  Unless he's picked a media team that's still thinking four years in the past, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking about how people will likely react to ads that rely more on <em>negative spin</em> than on <em>negative fact</em>.  John&#8217;s ads are trying to push a <em>conclusion</em> on people.  It works better to present facts that suggest something, and then allow people to <em>draw the conclusion themselves</em>.  This is pretty basic stuff.  </p>
<p>The increased sophistication I was referring to has to do with the fact that people are less trusting in general now of televised media coverage, political advertising, and internet content.  They descriminate better than they did four years ago because they&#8217;ve had four more years of experience with the methodologies of the new media.  And certainly with political manipulation.  </p>
<p>The McCain ads in question would have played a lot better four years ago.  Now the term &#8220;swiftboating&#8221; is on the tip of everybody&#8217;s tongue&#8211;a verb that didn&#8217;t even exist four years past.  </p>
<p>My guess is we won&#8217;t see the ads go national because the McCain team will analyze the feedback data and figure this out.  Unless he&#8217;s picked a media team that&#8217;s still thinking four years in the past, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501824</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tora Bora is old news. Not much there.Osama is long gone in the basement of some ultra rich sheik.
 Afganistan is an area that is a no mans land. Has been for a thousand years.
The only thing that can be done is contain the area and hold back the tribes from establishing bases.
Iraq on the other hand means everything. Being in the fertile crescent the civilization goes back to Mesopatania days. Iraq was secular but Stalinist when we decided to conquer it.
Having the 4th largest petroleum reserves in the world and centered right in the middle of all conflicts it really is the center of the war on terrorism.
The war on terrorism will be defined later as the wars for resource control in the world.
Whoever controls the middle east controls the world.
As Iraq becomes a rich democracy allied with the US the fact that the US along with her allies have the influence over the world resources will make Bush look like a Truman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tora Bora is old news. Not much there.Osama is long gone in the basement of some ultra rich sheik.<br />
 Afganistan is an area that is a no mans land. Has been for a thousand years.<br />
The only thing that can be done is contain the area and hold back the tribes from establishing bases.<br />
Iraq on the other hand means everything. Being in the fertile crescent the civilization goes back to Mesopatania days. Iraq was secular but Stalinist when we decided to conquer it.<br />
Having the 4th largest petroleum reserves in the world and centered right in the middle of all conflicts it really is the center of the war on terrorism.<br />
The war on terrorism will be defined later as the wars for resource control in the world.<br />
Whoever controls the middle east controls the world.<br />
As Iraq becomes a rich democracy allied with the US the fact that the US along with her allies have the influence over the world resources will make Bush look like a Truman.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501783</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H.R. 1268, roll call 109--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 2419, vote 172--Clinton also voted AYE
S. 1042, roll call 326--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 2863, roll call 366--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 4939, roll call 103--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 4939, roll call 112--Clinton also voted AYE
S. 2766, roll call 174--Clinton also voted AYE
S. 2766, roll call 181--&lt;strong&gt;Both&lt;/strong&gt; Obama and Clinton voted &lt;strong&gt;NAY&lt;/strong&gt;
S. 2766, roll call 183--Clinton also voted AYE
S. 2766, roll call 186--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 5631, roll call 239--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 5631, roll call 261--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 5682, roll call 270--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 1591, roll call 117--Clinton also voted AYE
H.R. 1591, roll call 126--Clinton also voted AYE

&lt;strong&gt;So, Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama voted &lt;em&gt;identically&lt;/em&gt; on each and every one of the cited roll call votes. &lt;/strong&gt; 

You can confirm any of them using the Congressional Roll Call Database found at this address:  

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes.xpd?year=2007

&lt;strong&gt;Obviously you have misinterpreted the nature of the cited votes cast by Barack Obama.  Either that, or Hillary Clinton is as untrustworty a political chameleon as you believe Barack Obama to be.  &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H.R. 1268, roll call 109&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 2419, vote 172&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
S. 1042, roll call 326&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 2863, roll call 366&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 4939, roll call 103&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 4939, roll call 112&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
S. 2766, roll call 174&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
S. 2766, roll call 181&#8211;<strong>Both</strong> Obama and Clinton voted <strong>NAY</strong><br />
S. 2766, roll call 183&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
S. 2766, roll call 186&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 5631, roll call 239&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 5631, roll call 261&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 5682, roll call 270&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 1591, roll call 117&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE<br />
H.R. 1591, roll call 126&#8211;Clinton also voted AYE</p>
<p><strong>So, Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama voted <em>identically</em> on each and every one of the cited roll call votes. </strong> </p>
<p>You can confirm any of them using the Congressional Roll Call Database found at this address:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes.xpd?year=2007" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes.xpd?year=2007</a></p>
<p><strong>Obviously you have misinterpreted the nature of the cited votes cast by Barack Obama.  Either that, or Hillary Clinton is as untrustworty a political chameleon as you believe Barack Obama to be.  </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501581</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is fasting, a muslim tradition.</description>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501469</link>
		<dc:creator>Hope Floats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30.00 EUR
	
=
	
47.1254 USD

You Europeans smoke your faces off, too. Must be some pretty damn good cigarettes.

In the States, that would buy you a black market handgun, and you could kill yourself faster. You should come over here and take advantage of the exchange rate.</description>
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<p>47.1254 USD</p>
<p>You Europeans smoke your faces off, too. Must be some pretty damn good cigarettes.</p>
<p>In the States, that would buy you a black market handgun, and you could kill yourself faster. You should come over here and take advantage of the exchange rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/26/mccains-new-tv-ad/#comment-501437</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, Obama's subcommittee is European affairs, which indirectly would cover NATO relations, which would in turn lead to discussions of NATO involvement in Afhganistan.

The key here, whether or not you believe the full committee chair, is that Obama didn't even *try* to have any hearing ... &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, Obama&#8217;s subcommittee is European affairs, which indirectly would cover NATO relations, which would in turn lead to discussions of NATO involvement in Afhganistan.</p>
<p>The key here, whether or not you believe the full committee chair, is that Obama didn&#8217;t even *try* to have any hearing &#8230; <strong><em>ever</em></strong>.</p>
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