All Smoke And Mirrors, Baby (Or Is That “Sweetie”?)
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Commander in Chief, DNC, Democracy, DoD, Elizabeth Edwards, FISA, Flip Flopping, Foreign Policy, Foreign affairs, Gender Bias, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Media Bias, Misogyny, Nancy Pelosi, PUMA, Republicans, Soldiers/Veterans, Superdelegates, pandering
According to the majority of the American “press,” Obama’s Magical Mystery Tour was met was fawning, adoring fans everywhere he went. Oh, they just FLOCKED to him, didn’t they? Especially in Berlin - oh, yes, never mind the free food and two hottest rock bands in Berlin playing first, they were there to see HIM!! Yes, they were!!! At least according to what WE were told. Well, I know this will just surprise the bejesus out of you, but that is not exactly true. I know, say WHAAA??? Yeah.
Susan Nieman had an Op-Ed in the New York Times, of all places (what us be sycophants?), telling the REAL deal in her piece, “Change Germans Can’t Believe In.”
In her very good piece Ms. Nieman had this to say:
Barack Obama’s speech in Independence, Mo. (6/30/08)WITH gestures that ranged from a wink to a sneer, most anyone you met here this week volunteered the view that Barack Obama’s visit to Europe caused unprecedented frenzy. But it’s been hard for me to find a European, aside from two Harvard-educated friends in Paris, who confessed to excitement — not just about the visit, but the prospect of an Obama presidency.It is true that Der Spiegel, the German newsweekly, featured Mr. Obama on its cover, topped by the words “Germany Meets the Superstar” — but the cover was satire, and nasty satire at that. The editors managed to find the ugliest photograph of Mr. Obama ever taken. It caught the senator at a moment that might be exhaustion but looks like conceited smirking. When Der Spiegel featured Mr. Obama on its cover in March, the cover line was “The Messiah Factor.” Must one add that this, too, was not meant to be taken at face value?
Europeans will be as relieved as 72 percent of Americans to see the end of the Bush administration, but their attitudes toward the Democratic candidate are far from being the same as the ones he arouses at home. Mr. Obama makes Europeans uncomfortable.
Well, yes - of course Europeans, and the REST Of the planet, will be relieved when Bush is out of office. One little problem with that - Congress. Most of those Bush Enablers will still be IN office once he is gone. And heaven knows, they have done BLESSED little to rein him in. Nope - rather, they have gone along with just about every single thing he has requested, including shredding the Constitution, and I don’t just mean with the recent FISA debacle. Anywho, more than Bush need to leave office before there is REAL change: Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Dodd, Kerry, Leahy, to name just a very, very few, but I digress…
From our media, would you have ever gotten that the Berliners were anything less than thrilled, or that the Der Spiegel cover was a SATIRE?? Um, no. No, you wouldn’t. I don’t know about you, but I am pretty damn sick and tired of the media manipulating us to promote Obama. Sick of it. And I am not overstating the Berlin case. Here’s a little more:
In Germany, politicians in front of large, shouting crowds evoke images that nobody wants to see repeated. But genuine worries about demagoguery are not all that’s at issue. The mocking undertone that accompanies most descriptions of Mr. Obama in the European news media signifies a trans-Atlantic divide. George W. Bush made matters far worse than they ever were, but the neoconservatives who advised him were right about one thing: Europe is gripped by a world-weariness that resists American dreams.
There’s more, particularly about Obama’s speech and from where he drew his “inspiration, ” but you can go read about it if you wish. The point is that it was not all a bed of roses for Obama, despite the attempts to paint it otherwise (remember how when Obama went to Iraq, all of the newspapers were blaring how the Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki supported his plan?? Then come to find out, not so much, but they did not blare THAT correction, oh no…).
And to address this whole US Military Hospital in Landstuhl that Obama did not visit, since I am talking about Germany. He is now claiming that it was the Department of Defense that derailed his big plan to go visit our wounded soldiers there. I guess in a sense, they did - they said that he could go as a SENATOR, but not as a CANDIDATE. He could take a few of his staff, but not his entire entourage of staff and press. That is to say, he could not use a visit to the wounded warriors as a freakin’ PHOTO OP for his campaign. How DARE they!!! So, instead of going to see them, as a US Senator, he went and worked out in the Ritz Carlton hotel where he was staying. Oh, if I was in the military, that would sure make ME want him as my Commander in Chief - NOT!!!!
And now, for more smoke and mirrors. By now, you have probably heard that Obama is considering yet another Republican to be his running mate. Before I get to that, allow me to digress - again - by bringing up Chuck Hagel, whose name was ALSO floated as a potential Obama VP choice. Hagel, the one who accompanied Obama on his “fact-finding” tour and demurred to him all along the way, even though HAGEL has actually been in the Senate for a while. But wait, there’s more - Hagel is one of the owners of Diebold. You know, as in the Diebold VOTING MACHINES. As in he won re-election in 2002 with a whopping 83% of the vote. It was unprecedented. Care to take a guess what kinds of voting machines they use in Nebraska?? Well, I imagine it came as a surprise to Ol’ Chuck that the Obama people are looking at another Republican, this time, a woman. Someone who served in BUSH’S administration. Ann Veneman, the Secretary of Agriculture, is the person at whom they are currently looking. Amie Parnes and Ben Smith have written a comprehensive article on her, and the Democrats reaction to this news, in this article, “Obama Considers GOP Running Mate“. Thanks to my buddy, Diamond Tiger, for sending this to me this morning. She warned me to not be drinking anything when I read it - I suggest that to you as well. (There will be more posts on this, to be sure!)
See, here’s the thing. I have long thought that Obama was more Republican than Democratic anyway. When he started praising Ronald Reagan as a “transformative” president, a president who did VERY little for the African American community, and DISSED Bill Clinton’s two-term presidency, I became very suspicious indeed. When he went further and said that he wanted to return to the Foreign Policy of George H.W. Bush, i.e., Donald Rumsfeld’s policies, I knew, just KNEW, that he was a closet Republican (and if rumors can be believed, that is not the ONLY thing about which he is in the closet, if you know what I mean!). And of course, choosing a WOMAN is supposed to both appease all of us Hillary supporters (as if that is the ONLY reason we want her - it’s all about her being a woman, not that she is far more qualified) and to prove that they aren’t a bunch of misogynistic pigs. Oh, yes - choosing a Republican woman just covers ALL of those bases - they get cross over votes, and appease all of us PUMA people mad that the woman in the race was treated like pure-T crap. Yes, we ARE mad that Senator Clinton, and by extension, all women were treated horribly in this election season by the DNC and the MSM, but just picking any ol’ woman, especially a REPUBLICAN woman, is not going to change the fact that they trashed the most qualified candidate in the field. And it does not give Obama any more experience, or integrity, or honesty.
Wow - they must really think we are stupid.
One last little smoke and mirror for your entertainment. And by entertainment, I mean another way a SD was arm-twisted to support Obama. That would be John Edwards. Yes, this is about John, his mistress, and his love child. Apparently, this has been known for some time in DC circles. Had it been anyone else (whose name happened to be Bill or Hillary), it would have been screamed all over the media 24/7/365. But the Obama/R/DNC could use this to their advantage, and boy, did they ever!! I trust that now the cat’s out of the bag, it might make it to the MSM, but there again, I’m not holding my breath on that. You know we cannot cast any aspersions on Obamessiah, without being damned for all eternity, that is. I always liked Elizabeth way more than John anyway, but especially now - it makes her disappearance from the public eye that much more telling. I guess she knew this was coming down the pike. I hate it for her, though. She doesn’t deserve this. Frankly, John was lucky to have her. She was what made him seem more believable. Well, that mirror is broken, and the smoke cleared now.
Holy cow - talk about your hoodwinking bamboozling. Please, please, PLEASE tell me why all of these so-called progressives (and I consider myself very progressive - and I make my own cappuccinos every single day. Oh, and I am highly “educated” too!) are supporting this Republican Lite?!?! I sure don’t get it. His version of “change” is looking more and more like the Same-o Same-O to me, especially if you are a REPUBLICAN. Way to go R/DNC!! We now have ONE party in this country (nod to you, WorkingClassArtist and rosieriter)!! Wait, that isn’t a good thing, is it?? Yikes.


He was busy flirting with a blonde at the Ritz-Carlton gym.
Where did you find the story that Obama was picking up on a blonde girl at the gym? Was this when he was supposed to visit the wounded troops but canceled?
Does anyone have a link?
This is the article about the blonde girl and Obama at the gym.
Source: Bild (German Paper)
http://tinyurl.com/696f7v
I tested that link, but it ended on the right website, even though it looks tacky. But on the wrong page for some reason. So, here is the article (there is a photo with obama and the girl)
Souce: Bild (German newspaper)
This sounds like a bunch of baloney. A lot of this artical is even repeated twice. If someone were actually excersizing they would not be recalling this incident with such detail, eg, “16:02 pm someone walks in”, most people would not bother to look at a clock and if they did they would have remembered about 16:00.
This is pure Obama propaganda. I would have to stand there and just watch Obama while writing this down. He pushes on the peddals three times, he lifts so much weight and counts the repetitions, somehow she know the type and size of the bottle Obama has and what is inside. Obama puts in headphones so how does she know what he is listening to?
Then she says Obama does not sweat. Nobody would be dripping in sweat based on what she described him doing.
The last 3 words give this whole farce away: “WHAT A MAN!” The guy purportedly does some curls, situps, listens to music, and sips water and this is impressive?! This underscores the problem with Obama — he is being glorified like a messiah for doing absolutely nothing. This is equivalent to Obama blowing his nose into a microphone and having a moronic crowd cheering for him. Pathetic.
I did that much in my first week of cardiac rehab.
Actually, I saw the article and obama posed with her. Hot chicks make for better photo ops than depressing sicks soliders.
http://publiusforum.blogtownhall.com/2008/07/26/gushing_immaturity_german_reporters_workout_with_barack_obama.thtml
I got a kick out of imagining her accent as she said, “Obama is top fit!”
Obama should have started his Berlin speech by asking the crowd if they like to “make party.” Effin German dorks. Don’t let a country so fond of backpacks decide your elections.
Here you go
I worked out with Obama!
He curled 32 kilo dumbbells next to me +++ Barack is top fit +++ He didn’t sweat at all
By Judith Bonesky
As thousands waited at the Sieges Saule monument in Berlin to hear Obama’s sensational speech, a BILD reporter met Barack all alone – in the gym! Here’s the incredible account of Judith Bonesky’s meeting…
bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2008/07/24/Bild-was-in-fitness-studio/with-barack-obama-before-his-speech-in-berlin.html
thanks..I thought I had double vision, when I read it back..I don’t know happened. It wasn’t double when I read it on Bild. I must admit, the website does look tacky looking.
Now, While I was out today in the yard pretending to be Tom Sayer, staining the fence a fence, My sane half was out getting intel, ala MIB, much to my surprise.
The National Examiner has front page:
So, while I will half to wait till tomorrow to read it, on the coffee break (as it were)…Just thought you would like to know BO DID through his wife under the BUS!!! I jus’t wonder what lie he told her to be BEserk?
The Men in Black one?
So many choices. Which lie I wonder.
carol — I bet he was. Originally I read that he chose not to visit the military hospital because he told his staff that it was his first time in Berlin and he wanted to see the sites.
Obama Plagiarizes Bono in Berlin Speech oops… lol
He just can’t stop himself. And the fact that his supporters did not hold accountable all of the OTHER times he did it just gave him license to do it MORE. The irony is, those educators among them would FLUNK their students for doing it, and the MSM would REAM Clinton or McCain if THEY did it, but Obama got off SCOT-Free. He has not been held accountable for ANY of his misdeeds, as far as I can tell…
What’s his name? Hans or Franz?
Did he pump him up?
ROFL. Nicely done.
I do consider him a gurly-man.
Let’s continue to press on The Press. They have had their day. And their say. S O S ~ sick of shit
Patti — I am so sick of the media and their fawning over this empty suit. This country belongs to the American people and so do our votes. I will not have the likes of Katie Couric taking mine away. ENOUGH WITH OBAMA ALREADY.
Excellent Rev. Amy….Remember just because a person seems a little paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t out to get them….and yes! UNITY ain’t always a good thing….ask Ben Franklin…or better yet Thomas Paine…
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK….IT IS THAT IMPORTANT.
*** OBAMA IS A FASCIST AND UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ***
Rev. Amy — May I add my thanks for this wonderful post. Sometimes I think we are the only ones in world not drinking the Kool Aid — nice to know the rest of the world isn’t drinking either.
Thanks, S. Hall. I appreciate that.
And yes, we really aren’t alone. If you take a look at how far reaching just THIS site is, it should give you hope (there’s a meter over on the right hand side, so you can see all of the places represented currently on the board - cool, huh?). And thank HEAVENS other countries see through him.
I still cannot believe, after all those years of Bush, that people, so many people, would buy this empty rhetoric of his. Good grief…
Oblockhead’s only real talent is manipulation. Apparently he has been doing it all his life. I have been around these types before. They will do and say anything to get their way and when they don’t, a meltdown occurs. Not genuine anger, but rage.
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. All I see when I look at Ofraudma is a seriously mentally ill individual. Pathologically narcissistic, or so starved for adulation and attention that he can’t function or a combination of both. But mentally ill people definitely manipulate and suffer from rage.
sioux — Perhaps Obama can spend some time in Walter Reed when he loses — cause he is going to be throwing a hell of a tantrum.
And when he’s done there, he’ll be the dashing cardboard cut-out in the Senate just like before.
We are 18,000,000 million strong. Why don’t we use those numbers to hit the MSM where it hurts?
Why don’t we organize a boycott of CNN, MSNBC, etc. sponsors? It has worked very well for groups that have smaller numbers than ours. And it is something we all agree on and can come together on.
The reason for the boycott - We Demand Truth in Reporting! Include a list of everything they have reported incorrectly or ignored and demand they tell the truth now.
Boycott the sponsors until we hear the truth, the whole truth!
That would be a great idea but so many Americans are either apathetic or lazy. One of the reasons I fear for our country is not necessarily because of Obama, per se, but because so many Americans are actually supporting him. I thought the Bush administration was an isolated incident, a bump in the road of democracy but now I see this pandering black version of Bush and am not so sure anymore.
Not as many Americans are supporting Obama as they would have you think. The supporters are loud, and some are vile and vulgar, which makes their numbers appear larger.
We are the quieter and more civilized but not silent. And we tell the truth.
Roosevelt: “Speak softly and carry a big stick.” That’s us. Our ‘big stick’ is our votes.
A boycott would be another big stick. We have to use our numbers wisely.
We cannot be apathetic or lazy or we have lost already. I understand what you mean about the Bush administration. I couldn’t believe the American voters re-elected him. Hopefully most of them have seen the light since doing that.
We can only hope.
You’re right on that one. I guess I am just more than a little perturbed about this business. The more I hear, the more I cringe.
I felt the exact same thing when Bush got reelected. I couldn’t believe people actually voted for him. But, did people actually vote for him or did his sidekicks steal the election and throw away votes for Kerry and report fraudulent numbers? I heard plenty of stories that alluded to such activities. Obama seems to have plenty of people working for him who would be more than happy to steal the election for him–throw away votes for John McCain or just plain have the pollings stations lie about the numbers.
The Silent Majority — I do believe this year there is a Silent Majority that will not be tapped by any pollsters.
The Obama thugs have gotten the message out — to oppose Obama means you are racist. So people will not talk about their misgivings about Obama — but they will speak at the polls.
“Silent Majority” — gotta give VP Agnew his due — but in 2008 — there will be a Silent Majority AGAINST Obama.
Eat that you trolls.
PUMA
You mean you’re still watching them?!
I think there’s actually a disorganized boycott going on. Numerous people have simply stopped watching those, particularly KO and Tweety. Others have also stopped listening to NPR and Radio Free America as well as canceling their subscriptions to Time and Newsweek. NY Times and WSJ are dead too.
Also the Big Cheetoh and MyDD are pretty quiet these days.
I have, too. No MSNBC, CNN, or even the network news. I only occasionally watch PBS. There are better sources for news and most of them are overseas. Go figure.
I used to have CNN and MSNBC on, as background, much of time. The only person I occasionally watch now is Lou Dobbs - who always tells it like it was. I now have FOX (a network I swore I would never watch and convinced many others to not watch also)on much of the time. Because it is to their advantage, they are telling much of the truth about Obama.
But - I think it is very important to know what is going on in the enemy camp. Yes, we have others tell us what the MSM are doing and saying, but we have to keep aware. For instance, I’ve seen things on the scroll at the bottom of the MSNBC screen that they never report on and I never hear reported by anyone else. When I see that, I always put it in a comment on NQ (I don’t know if anyone pays attention.)
To that end, I skim many of them (can’t bear to watch long). I find that is enough to see and hear their dishonesty is still rampant and what they are up to.
I’m not saying anyone else should watch the truthless MSM. I have always had to know everything that was going on in any important situation - that’s just me.
I used to disdain Fox. But now I can’t watch the sychophants on MSNBC and CNN, and I found Fox to be much more fair to Hillary. I do have to hold my nose when Dick Morris comes on, though.
I stopped watching CNN and MSNBC some time ago when it dawned on me they were in love with Obama.
Thank you!
I have been on my own boycott since January.
Boycott wouldn’t work. You have to find who their biggest advertisers are, and go after them.
Right - don’t patronize their biggest sponsors. It should be easy to find out who they are.
Works for Sharpton.
Sure does
I don’t watch MSNBC or CNN, but if you tell me what the sponsors push, I’ll boycott.
I’ll see if I can find a definitive list.
In the meantime, if Larry or anyone else here has that info, would you post it please?
Thanks.
Flyarm had a running list….check the NQ archives.
Also listed the Turncoats….It’s all there. Posted for months as it grew….
Kinda like Uppity’s infamous list of Groups Obama offended….
Also, I found this great video calling for a boycott. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urR8hAeE9rs
It is a month old but most, if not all, should still be relevant.
There also is a call for a boycott, June 9, on Clintondems.com.
There are others. If we could all get together, it would have the impact we want. And it would show them the power we can wield. They wouldn’t be able to brush us off as a slight irritation anymore.
That is a good idea but I stopped watching to so called news channels months ago.
I think a lot of other people also stopped and they still don’t get it.
I don’t need infomercials, I need the truth and nothing but the truth.
We don’t have investigative reporters any more we have stenographers.
If any of them took a journalism class they failed. they should have went to secretarial school.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
democracy first — absolutely — I can get along just fine without ABC, NBC or CBS. Their ratings are so low now–do you think they will notice that lack of viewership?
MSNBC and Olberdud are noticing.
OR maybe Obama choosing a woman VP is just another one of his subtle messages — forget it Hillary, your family will not regain power.
Obama is headed for Political Oblivion….it is inevitable….Jake seek therapy.
Another anchovy, this one with onions.
In case you missed this Blog A Must Read!!! read last Blog, pretty scary information.
http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/34772/
It must be so hard for you to see the nice bounce Obama got from the trip.
He’s leading McCain 49-40 in the Gallup poll and 51-39 in the Research 2000 poll. True, Rasmussen has him up less, 49-44, but note that Obama’s range is 49-51, while McCain’s is a paltry 40-44.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109102/Gallup-Daily-Obama-49-McCain-40.aspx
http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Meanwhile, McCain is getting hammered by commentators for his false claims about troop visits. As Senator Jack Reed said this morning, Obama visited wounded trips in Iraq without any cameras. So the story has gotten debunked real fast.
Thank you Debbie. Could you please comment on why Obama has forgotten his pledge to help the people in his father’s village?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23520981-details/Barack+Obama%27s+broken+promise+to+African+village/article.do
Maybe you work for the campaign. The poor people (which includes 10 of his relatives) have even tried writing to the Senator’s office.
Please get back to us on this. I’m sure the Senator just overlooked A WHOLE VILLAGE.
excellent Katmandu…..well done
Awesome kat.
He’s even more of a despicable a-hole than I thought.
If he can’t even keep promises to his grandmother….GRANDMOTHER, FER CRISSAKES!…..then how are we simple peasants to believe anything this man (loosely used) says?
The school thing blows my mind, too! He certainly can’t say that education is a priority!
I think the Kenyan Village story is like a cautionary tale for the U.S. electorate:
promises, charm, and then NA DA!
and the heartbreaking image of the villagers hoping, hoping, drinking their Obama beer,and looking at photos of themselves with a smiling Obama…
how can he do this to (his own) people?
But Wait! There’s More ! What about his own hometown Village ( the district in Chicago that hired him ) and the believers he left behind…..
They sure got left holding the bag.
Good job at changing the subject!!!
I repeat - it’s got to be awfully hard for you folks right now, repeating the same talking points to each other, trying to keep your anger red-hot, as more folks decide that Obama did extremely well in his international meetings and interactions.
You are a tool to believe that Obama did well on that misadventure to Europe.
McCain looks great after that trip!
I’ve been to Europe 50 times and this punk goes once..
Give me a break!!!
Well, Debbie, we’re all waiting with baited breath to see what else your 12-year old mind can come up with. You would be entertaining if you weren’t so obtuse and sanctimonious at the same time.
We won’t have to. The 527s are all lined up in the que and awaiting barky’s nomination. After that the gloves come off and barky is going up against Rove. Told say we didn’t say so. He’s all yours. Go find votes elsewhere.
Obama did well at meetings and interactions? Why because he did not tote Wright with him? Obama did not do a damn thing.
Postnasal drip Snot the Mucilage.
debbie — does Obama pay you in Sausages and Beer? Or do you get a straight $7.00 an hour to blog for Obama?
Sausages and beer, of course. She spends a lot of time in front of the computer trolling NQ for abuse and the NIH for grants (I didn’t ask).
It has been a hard week. McCain looked like he was aready dead and the Republicans weren’t telling us. And Obama looked like the savior of the world.
But Debbie is wrong on the issue of Obama canceling out on the trip to see the injured veterans. This was the biggest mistake of his campaign and it will have legs.
As demoralized as I am with McCain’s performance and the bounce in the polls, I sent McCain’s campaign more money today.
McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Debbie,
You have no power here. Your tactics are old and tired and haven been proven, much like water-boarding, to have the opposite of the desired effect.
Don’t waste your time. You’ll never convince anyone that Obama is a patriot or even a fair contender for POTUS.
No one is voting for Obama no matter what.
So tell your little oberfuhrer that insults and cheeto stained keyboard tirades aren’t working either.
PUMA!!!
Sorry Debbie, but your Obama is an embarrassment to the United States of America.
Our determination to vote for John McCain and Obama’s increasing loss of voters must be bothering YOU Obama supporters very badly.
Which is why you Obamabots keep running your ignorant asses here and to other pro-Hillary forums and blogs posting your garbage.
In the very vain hopes that you will get at least some of us to “get over it.”
See you in November!
Thank you for the link to the article. I’m starting to get the feeling we need to get a group together and do a poll for each state. Just randomly call like 200 people in each state 2 questions. Republican or Democrat. Obama or McCain. I can’t believe Obama is ahead in Florida. I’m just not buying it.
Twonkette, barky should be waay ahead right now. You’re too young and too stupid to see just how far ahead both Dukakis and Kerry were at this exact same time during their POTUS run. And given that Bush is the worst president ever and the MSM is totally in the tank for barky, he should be ahead bu at least 20 points. He will not survive the summer after the 527s get done with him. He’s a loser. Now go back to My Space and lie about your weight some more.
Oof! I liked the last one alot!

ROFLMAO…that my space directive is CLASSIC….Strawberry you do Bite…
A tip of the sombrero for that one!
Kerry wasn’t ahead at this time - your claim is false.
And Dukakis wasn’t ahead until after the Democratic convention. He got a post-convention bounce, something Obama will probably also get.
But you’re right, polls can shift. Still, which candidate is better off right now? Surely not McCain, who hasn’t been ahead of Obama a single day since he cliched and who is going to get hammered all week for his untrue ad.
Senator Obama clinched nothing except his crotch, thus far.
Clinched his crotch?
What a wit you are. I bet you are known for it.
What are you known for, following a false messiah?
No. But she does get a lot of NIH *grants*. It may have something to do with the company she keeps or so it seems.
Get a clue, Ms. 25-watter: This is a 100-watt board. You’re shedding more heat than light.
debbie (with a small d) Barky will lose, just the fact that you are here proves it. You and barky would not be wasting energy and resources are a fight already won. Unless the two of you are even more stupid than we think…but given your poor trolling skills and barky’s constant screw ups I’m beginning to wonder…