PUMAs Are “Surging”
By NoQuarter on July 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM in Barack Obama, DNC, Democracy, Democratic Nomination, Disenfranchisement, Hillary Clinton, Indiana, JustSayNoDeal.Com, North Carolina, PUMA, Texas
Newsbusters.org has written a great article on PUMA power today, “MSM Mostly Ignores Surge of Anti-Obama PUMA Democrat Activity.” A choice quote:
Imagine if a bunch of disgruntled Mitt Romney supporters were currently stalking John McCain or Republican events loudly demanding that their candidate be nominated. Think the national press would be featuring it bigtime as an example of Republican party disunity? Well, the same thing is happening except the people are disgruntled Democrats expressing their opposition of Barack Obama while loudly continuing to support Hillary Clinton. … PUMA activities seem to be surging lately. …
JustSayNoDeal.com reports more coverage today, including a dynamite LTE, “Party leadership, Obama rejected by these Dems” published in today’s Indianapolis Star newspaper and an original article published at Raw Story, “Hillary supporters, still angry, frustrate attempts at party unity. The Raw Story report features the highly successful protest by PUMA members during Howard Dean’s speech in Charlotte, North Carolina:First, the IndyStar LTE which concisely sums up essential concerns about Barack Obama’s candidacy:
Party leadership, Obama rejected by these DemsWe know very little about Barack Obama, but we do know he is unwilling to take a firm stance on issues.He said he would accept public financing for the general election, and later rejected it.He voted in favor of the government’s eavesdropping program and legal immunity for telecommunications companies after promising his supporters he would reject it.He advocates both an individual’s right to own a gun and the government’s right to regulate ownership.He assured America he would negotiate a better deal with NAFTA and then winked to the Canadian government that this was simply political posturing.He assured his supporters he would pull all American troops out of Iraq immediately. Now he calls this impossible.The list is endless.I am a member of PUMA PAC (People United Means Action), a group of citizens who favored Hillary Clinton and are motivated by belief that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) has abrogated its responsibility to represent the interests of all Democrats in all 50 states. I and thousands of other PUMA members will not vote for Obama, the DNC’s selected, not elected, nominee.Dylan AsdalePUMA PAC DemocratAvon
Here’s a quote from the section of the Raw Story report about that dramatic Charlotte, N.C. protest:
Protesters brought their anger over the supposed mistreatment of Hillary Clinton by the Democratic Party to a Howard Dean appearance in Charlotte Friday, some carrying signs that read “Dump Dean.”Two dozen of the New York Senator’s supporters shouted down the Democratic National Committee Chairman with a chorus of, “I own my vote!” the Charlotte Observer reported.The protest was sparked by a rumor that Clinton’s name would not be put in for nomination at the Democratic National Convention in Denver next month.The supporters were loud enough that Dean was forced to stop his speech to the 150 people who showed up for the voting rally and address the demonstrators. …
Read all of the Raw Story report, which also covers PUMA members’ statements and strategies in Texas and elsewhere.
awesome!
HILLARY IS POTUS
PUMA BABY!!
WooT!!!!!
PUMAs rock!!!
PUMAs DO rock, but the analogy made regarding Romney and Hillary is nowhere CLOSE. In fact, it is illogical - Romney was not forced out, he chose to leave, and MORE IMPORTANTLY - he did not win the vast majority of big and swing states, and did not get more of the popular vote. I appreciate their trying to be catchy or pithy or whatever, and maybe it is because this has never ever happened before that the candidate with the most votes was NOT the presumed nominee, but it is, IMHO, not a flattering comparison. We support Clinton because she is, hands down, the best candidate. And we are angry at the DNC because they engaged in voter fraud, intimidation, and theft; and they engaged in rigging the nomination in general. They could not be FURTHER away from the meaning of “democratic.” THAT is why we are angry, not just because the best candidate, the one who was ELECTED, was not the one SELECTED.
Oh wait - here’s a comparison - we’re like people who continued supporting Gore because he actually HAD the most votes (electoral college, too, when they were actually COUNTED), but was not the one who ended up in the White House. Much better than comparing us to ROMNEY supporters.
R..R..R..AMY,
I didn’t even support GORE cuz he CAVED for very long after until he did the Global Thing then he got my attention again.
No ONE was a qualified, dignified or true as was Sen. Clinton.
Romney, Gore, pffft, they could shine her shoes.
jmo
Oh, right on, Dawnelle - I feel the same way abt Gore. My mom asked me the other day if I saw his recent speech, and I told her, emphatically, HECK NO! And why. She adores Hillary, is VERY upset abt all of the sexism and the propping up of Obama, and once I told her Gore endorsed him, she totally got it (she’s 78, btw).
And yeah - none of those people could sign her shoes. I think that is why they are hellbent on putting her down at every opportunity - they know it!!
Great post! PUMA may not be getting all of the press it deserves, but party leaders are very worried and very angry.
They should be!
Listen, they told us to f&ck off and stay home a long time ago. We’re just taking them at their word.
They don’t need us, the base of the Party, to win? Let’s see how that works out for them.
Not another dime for the Dem Party that fixed the nomination for Oblahma!!
And fixing includes their silence while Obamabots falsely accused the Clintons of racism.
NO Hussein!
NObama!
Thats right they said they do not need us, they can win without all of us!! Ok, so I say go ahead!
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Here Here! The O-brownshirts harassed, alienated, and drove us out of the Dem Party and Left blog sites–and now they want us to forget it all happened! This, amigos, is called abuse. (”But, Baby, I really didn’t mean it….)
We refuse to enable such behavior–
and thus turn our backs to the One who not only condoned, but encouraged such abuse throughout the primaries!
That is, we refuse to enable such behavior– and now turn our backs to the One who condoned and encourages such abuse!
Barry sent me another letter begging for cash
and I made a fake “O” dollar bill and included
a nice message to ‘keep the “change”‘ and sent
it back on their dime.
And I LAUGHED!
I got a letter, too. I sent it back with this in black marker written all over it.
Alice Palmer
Tony Rezko
Farrakhan
Ayers
Wright
FISA
the stand with the muslims quote
Hate whites wife = NO MONEY!!
I, too, bring out my teacher’s red pen and cross out all the propaganda contained in such DNC and Obama mailings. (I fill in with my own comments, with longer commentary reserved for the margins.) I also write PUMA across the donations section, then I mail the whole thing back. I’ll keep on doing this as long as I get mail from the DNC and the Obama campaign.
I write all over it in large capital letters:
I WILL NEVER DRINK THE KOOL-AID AND I WILL NOT FALL IN LINE. I AM A MEMBER OF PUMA PAC.
Sometimes I write it all over the envelope and then cross out my address and put “Return to Sender.” Sometimes I open it and write all over it, and then send it back using their postage. I hope they’ll stop.
You forget SEXISM!!!
Good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
I am laughing too-LOL
Hahahaha. Good for you!
PUMA!!!!
AMEN TO JOSEY…….they delude themselves into thinking we are a bunch of old white ladies LOOKING FOR A CAUSE..From reading hundreds of commenTs over the last weeks i believe i represent the norm…i have wrked for the party for over 20 years..
volunteering on every campaign at every level..i am mad as hell and i’m not gonna take it anymore..they stood silent while hillary was demonized and THEY turned on president. cLinton THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED by PUMAS IN WIGS. PTY U. MY ASS!
Party leaders have every reason to be very worried. I hope PUMA can generate a lot of attention at the Democratic Convention. I live in Colorado. I would say the NBC affliate I watch is being spoon-fed their reporting on the campaign. But if the PUMA people can connect with the other networks and the independents during convention time, I would hope they would get fair coverage, not just in Colorado, but across the country. It is a huge story and deserves much more attention than it is getting.
Even without PUMA, I think many people see right through the Democrats “selection” process. They don’t like it and THEY are very angry.
I don’t know who the DNC has to be angry with except themselves….the two-faced, arrogant, petty, lying would-be tyrants that they are.
One other thing, Party Leaders. Please tell Obama’s fan club at Invesco Field to behave themselves. It is a really stupid idea to have the acceptance speech there. Stupid. I repeat, STUPID.
I agree. PUMA is tiny compared to the vast number of voters out there, and he’s not knocking it out of the park.
well with Obama’s 5 million ad buy to NBC, would you expect anything else from them?
I just got an e-mail from a DNC member who expressed his concern about the Hillary supporters who are angry the way DNC treated Hillary’s campaign. I believe they are begining to take PUMA seriously.
Did you read the comment section on the Raw Story link??? I tried to post and their was an apology by the administrator about fixing the posting requirements or something so the comment section was closed to more comments!
I forgot to add that the comments on the Raw Story link were extremely anti-puma. Which is why I am upset that the comment section was closed to further comments.
The elitist really think Hillary supporters will fall in line but they should start realizing that it’s not going to happen. They have done wrong and were cruel to the only woman that has ever run for the presidency. Adding Obama’s none judgement on the Iraq surge there is no way he should be president.
Actually Hillary isn’t the only women who ran for president in American History. But the treatment of Hillary was the same as the ones before her. The first female to run was in late 1800’s, even before women could vote. She was called the “Petticoat Candidate”. Same crap, different times.
Aaaaand Obama is not the first AA candidate….SHE WAS A GUTSY WOMAN
Actually Hillary isn’t the only woman who ran for president in American History. But the treatment of Hillary was the same as the ones before her. The first female to run was in late 1800’s, even before women could vote. She was called the “Petticoat Candidate”. Same crap, different times.
PUMA IS making a difference. Even as PUMA is strong in numbers, the success so far is not in the numbers. It is in the perseverance. I wonder who is the PUMA role model in this unusual lack of will to quit?
PUMA for HILLARY
The MSM may be ignoring this story, but Dean, the DNC, and the Obama campaign are not. The Obama campaign has effectively taken over the DNC and it intends to fill Invesco Field with 80,000 Obama activists, who must earn their right to be there, will be bussed to Denver from across the country, and will intimidate the opposition (superdelegates and Hillary supporters), along with the very real fear of things getting out of hand. I can just hear the not-so-veiled threats from Brazille, Rangel, and other AA’s about what might happen if the nominations is “stolen” from Obama, who, the evidence shows, actually stole it from Hillary.
I absolutely agree with you. The Stalinist Obama will brook no dissent at the Convention.
Want a Seat at the Democratic Convention? Better Promise to Campaign for Obama
by the way, you should fight fire with fire. Promise to campaign for him and then when you get there, call for the Hillary delegates to stand up and be counted.
Infiltrate the enemy? Excellent idea!
I agree this is Stalinist. Very hardcore. Can we dismantle this apparatus? Or must we start a new Party to stand against them?
I say let them riot. Although a very sad situation, this would be a good thing, and would actually make Obama look even worse, because he would have only two choices. Call for those people to stop rioting (which I think won’t happen) or he will let them contiue their destructive rampage through the streets.
In either case it will make HIM look bad.
Agree!!! Why is this party afraid to do what is right?? I am not worried about riots. The Founding Fathers did what was right……..we should do no less and if someone has a problem with that, let them riot. They will look bad, not the voters who wanted their voices to be heard.
Why should we not stand fast? I am not afraid of them, because when its over, they will have lost.
The “protesters” will be safely CAGED in the Free Speech Chicken Wire Zone.
My guess is that the people who are signing up and attending Camp Obama will be the major source of the audience for the snObama coronation.
Camp Obama will be a tightly controlled “training” session where the core supporters will be identified and selected.
This really reminds me of the way the communists select their party members — one had to prove loyalty to the party — not the Country — but the party.
I can understand why the founding fathers/writers of the Constitution did mention nor support political parties.
The Obamacrat party is all about loyalty to one ONE individual.
PUMA more that ever!!
Yes! GWB redux!!!
I agree, but the proof will be at the ballot box –unless Hillary is nominated. PUMA has become an anthem up here in the Northeast, a household word.
In my state, I have received at least three calls from Dems pleading for help with the Shaheen candidacy — and always, always mentioning that she strongly supports Obama… I sometimes just slam the phone down after making a PUMA howl, or scream “Oh my God, not Hussein Obama!!!” then I yell PUMA!!! It feels great!! Not a penny for the DNC or any Dem who supports Obama.
Believe me, the Obama effect will be felt all the way down the ticket! Plan now to take down the names of every Dem from your state you see at the Convention that jumps on the Obama wagon — then pledge to work as hard as you can to get them defeated in November. We can’t all go to Denver but we can rock our communities!
Send the DNC a message that hijacking our democratic process will bring massive consequences. We are not 5 % or 10% or even 20%. I believe PUMA and sympathizers are closer to 40% and will block the Obama coronation. yeahhhh!
In all my life, I never can remember the msm deliberately not covering a major story like this.
The events of the Primary Season have altered my viewing and reading habits with regard to electronic and print journalism for the rest of my life.
Every where I go, if the subject of the msm comes up I mention that I don’t watch or read the news and I give my reasons why along with examples of things that the msm did not report, like the free beer and concert in Germany and the one in Oregon in May. then I challenge people to verify it. After they do they are astonished and not happily so.
They don’t realize it, but they’ve started a revolution and they won’t be happy with the outcome.
And they can blame Hillary all they want, it won’t change the truth:
THEY ARE TO BLAME!
I really don’t see what the DNC is fussin about…they have achieved PARTY UNITY….Commissar Donna Brazeal stated repeatedly that the NEW PARTY FOR A NEW AMERICA have found the Old Democratic base to be UNDESIRABLE and UNNECESSARY TO THE PARTY OR THEIR DEAR LEADER….
Of course with us goes our money….our reliability and loyalty….our experience
Guess The DNC just wishes we would shut up….FAT CHANCE COMRADE DEAN
There is no news story. A bunch of upset Hillary fans joining up with Republican hate sites. Swiftboating is not working this time
Of course there is.
Or your dumb ass wouldn’t be posting here.
Didn’t Donna Brazile say that the Party had to be destroyed in order to rebuild it? (Be careful what you wish for, as they say?) Shouldn’t she be fessing up to her responsibility of the current Party disunity?
Naturally, it looks like Hillary and her supporters are once again the easy scapegoats for the actions of a few Stalinists in the Dem party.
I delight in reading ‘noquarter’ comments and my love and mirth just bubbled over when I got to yours and I HAD to write. If you PUMAs were not out there expressing MY thoughts every day, I don’t know what I’d do. You guys are funny and irreverent, and smart, and oh so RIGHT about what has happened this year in American politics. I’m so happy that the fire and devotion have not faded. I halfway expected to see the angry Hillary supporters disappear or turn some corner into acquiescence, by the end of July But you haven’t! Well, neither have I! And it seems we are growing stronger and more numerous. Keep up the good fight! I am with you all the way and all the time and we are together in this.
That’s right Heather!
We know you are out there! We can feel it.
Come on in! The water’s fine…
You do know what to do…you’re already doing it. It’s called speaking out and it is oh so democratic. We’re all going to be doing it in Denver whether Howie likes it or not!
True that Untilthelastdogdies….DEMOCRACY IS JUST A LITTLE OLD FASHIONED TRADITION I BITTERLY CLING TO….Oooops! How very
workingclassbitterracistignorantlunchbucket…fill in the blank
menopausalwhinyLUNATICdeadenderunREALdemocratic of me…..
Thank you Heather!
The Presidency is not a game. Nor a joke. That’s why the PUMA organization fights on. The future of our country is at stake. The most important office in the United States cannot be handed over to inexperienced, non-trustworthy and unstable “rock star” hands anymore.
The days of wanting a President “you can have a beer with” are over.
We need a President (and Congress) who is experienced & politically savvy enough (among other good qualities) to repair the EXTENSIVE damages to our economy, our basic Constitutional liberties, and our environmental and energy policies - just to name a few issues.
Clowns like the so-called DNC member who recently stated that he was “irritated” by the PUMA movement and angry Hillary supporters who actually give a damn about the future of America need to be thrown out of positions of leadership.
Quickly.
The Obamabots in the DNC have completely lost touch with reality by comparing the Presidential election process with a damned football/basketball/baseball game. And they have a LOT of damned nerve making that comparison - especially since they CHEATED to get their “chosen one” the Democratic nomination. Even children understand that winners don’t cheat.
Yep, they have awakened a sleeping giant. We are looking through different eyes now and that can’t be reversed.
ah, yes..my thoughts exactly.
The MSM is a disgrace. There are e-mails from the LA Times telling their paid bloggers not to mention the Edwards affair. The MSM is actually sitting on a major story about a possible VP candidate because …
If there were a security guard on tape telling how he spotted Mitt Romeny coming out of an LA hotel room - where his alleged mistress was staying and was photographed entering - at 2AM, THERE WOULD BE 24/7 COVERAGE!
I hope it’s not true. I like John Edwards. But, can we get an explanation, at least, somewhere, somehow? Because, sitting on a story sure makes it look true.
There is a lot of misinformation going around about PUMA. This is not good. PUMA needs to reach the average voters in the country. When the msm covers PUMA they make organization sound like a radical group made up of crazed Clinton supporters. People need to understand what PUMA is really fighting for. PLease people- when you read articles discussing PUMA- please blog your comments AND, if you can, include this link so that America understands that PUMA and the Denver Group and others are trying to protect our democratic process. Yes people are upset-DEEPLY UPSET- as to how Sen Clinton was treated and pushed aside in this campaign process but PUMA goes above and beyond Sen Clinton. PUMA is upset because our whole democratic campaign process was hijacked- BY OUR OWN DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!
HRC is living proof. Make no mistake about it- if we allow this hijacking to go on again in American campaign politics- it will continue to go on in all future elections.
YES PUMAs want HRC name on the ballot because she is CLEARLY the best candidate however- PUMA complaint goes above and beyond just HRC- PUMA is fighting to protect our election process- from the cannibals in our own democratic party…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYNRkoOxRc
Please forward this link to others-especially include it on blogs that discuss PUMA…
“When the msm covers PUMA they make organization sound like a radical group made up of crazed Clinton supporters.”
You’re absolutely right - about everything you stated.
But I’ve finally accepted a while back that no matter how organized we are and no matter how effective we are at spreading the important PUMA message, we will probably always be dismissed by those bastards in the MSM and in the DNC as “crazy” and “bitter” Hillary supporters.
F— ‘em.
Let them think and say whatever they want to about us. They’re going to anyway.
PUMA will fight on in spite of them. We will brush Obama, the DNC, the MSM and insane Obamabots everywhere else off of our shoulders. We will effectively spread our message to as many as possible.
And we will defeat those crooks in November.
P.U.M.A.
A little humor: http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2708-barack_buttons.b8ef793.html
Printer mistakenly added Sen. Larry Craig to an Obama political button
Too funny!
The Back Seat/Bathroom Stall ticket!!!
Idaho PUMA not voting for Larry LaRocco!
We are PUMA, hear us roar!!
NObama!!
Another Puma
http://larrysinclair0926.com/
PRO-OBAMA BLOG & SELF-PROCLAIMED NIECE OF JOSEPH R. BIDEN, D-DE, SOLICITS MURDER ON THE INTERNET
Posted by Larry Sinclair on July 27th, 2008
That is way WRONG….What is Joe going to do about that ?
This story is getting scary for Larry. But I think its true and has legs.
Joe Biden’s niece wants to put a contract out on someone. Posts it right on the internet…Unbelievable. Let’s see what they do with her.
That was a stupid move on her part, gives Larry S. some publicity if the MSM reports it….wait, what am I thinking, it won’t see the light of day.
She’s Biden’s “self-proclaimed” niece - take a look at the pic, she looks more like Biden’s auntie!
Joe Biden attracts bad publicity like dead stuff attracts flies. My local media covers Delaware and there is never a lack of colorful copy where Senator Loquacious is concerned.
(FKA I, Bama)
I must say…I did your moniker…LOL
Meant to say DIG your moniker….KEYBOARD IN OPEN REBELLION…
omg. LOL, I hadn’t even read what you said yet because I was laughing so hard at your posting name…haha
gee, when did soliciting murder become a progressive goal??
Probably around the same time it forgot it’s working class roots ( sigh )
wca and wodiej,
I am hoping that since Rev Wright identified my nasal deficiency, he might also have the remedy!
Larry’s website has been disabled, AGAIN !!!
The convention will be where the P.U.M.A. movement will either make a breakthrough or be marginalized.
Is there a plan for P.U.M.A.’s to come to Denver?
If so, Larry Johnson needs to take the lead in getting the word out.
J.J. - The Denver Group is in charge of that, not Larry.
The Denver Group
We may not be able to affect what happens at the Convention, so I have to take issue with that construct. Sometimes the bad guys do win, no matter how hard you try or how righteous your cause.
This movement is about the core principles of the Democratic Party. If Hillary is not nominated, then we should keep our movement together and become the new, improved Moveon.org.
Just my 2 cents.
I’m far more interested in what we do to move forward to take back the party and restore the populist big tent than what goes down in Denver.
Denver is a done deal, in my mind.
I want to know what’s next.
Looking for leadership, here, and I think it’s there.
It’s just not quite come together.
don’t leave AnninCa.
i like your thoughts.
some essays are over top here.
but most all here, i think, are well-intentioned people.
outrage expresses itself in many different variations.
take care.
Denver for many people here is the the main focus. The leader we want is Hillary Clinton.
I find the outrage that is expressed here is mostly because the Obama trolls and biased media. Other than that most articles are quite good.
Anne,
We really do like your comments. I know that if I was in the same chem class as you I probably would have gotten an F for the distraction.
Unless you let me copy your homework!
Ann, just go already. Jesus, I’ve died a thousand deaths over the past few weeks with your whining; I feel like the hero in some Hindu epic. If you’re so concerned about how all of this looks and are still wrestling with whether you can support Obama or not, then you’re more of a hindrance than a help.
Tin foil hats off to Perry Logan who can get a little ridiculous but makes himself heard. The world needs more activists, more passionate people, and I don’t care how weird and non-PC they might be.
In fact, the Clintons are famous for surrounding themselves with colorful characters and nonconformists; it was the source of many of their policy breakthroughs and also unfortunately how Hillary’s campaign devolved into chaos with no immediate check.
But in that spirit, Let people do whatever they like here, as long as you can support their goals. You just seem like a rubbernecker, and your comments are not helpful.
I like how quickly you turn on your own. Just as you have ignored every call for unity from Hillary. I support her. You PUMA lot do not. Johnson is a self declared Republican. Darragh Murphy is a McCain fan. You lot bring shame to the Hillary campaign and have the McCain camp laughing. How many McCainOnline points do you get for blogging here?
Hey troll, Axelrod says your shift is over. You can now go back to your video games and internet porn.
PUMA!!!!
*snicker*
Actually, workingclassdem, I have suspected for months, Anninca is not among the “one of us” you talked about. Not a troll exactly, but a mole. However, the real point is one you seem to have missed entirely, probably because you don’t really bother to read the blogs and just look for a place to insert your ideas. If you supported Hillary and now support Obama, that is your privilege granted by the constitution, but I would like to address your misconceptions. First, I will concede some Republicans post here as they do on every site where they are not banned. You should look at the history of PUMA more objectively, however. JustSayNoDeal is not one site, but over two hundred with some common threads. All supported Hillary and for all it is about much more. One issue is Obama himself. I am speaking only for myself, but I didn’t make up my mind until the second debate. Until then, I considered either Hillary or Obama nomination to be fine with me and told my family and friends this. Then I saw the waffling and inexperience, the media bias and SC, when his campaign playing the race baiting card, I was done with him. Second issue, the DNC. There was the silence on the media attacks on Hillary, her husband and her daughter. Months of Hillary supporters being branded racists and still nothing from the DNC. Comments by Brazil, Pelosi, Dean and others denigrating my years as a Democrat and being told my vote wasn’t needed. The stories of threats against SDs and the lies, lies , lies. In the last month, everything I had thought about Obama proven by his votes and statements and now, apparently, his choice for VP is a man who is against stem cell research and has a poor record on his support of women’s right to choose. I’m left with the choice of going along with the Democratic Party, not voting and not having a Party representing me or joining others to take the Party back. Sorry this is so long, but I have one last thing to say. Yesterday, I went to Huffpo for the first time in at least four months (when my comments were no longer posted) and I saw a strange thing there. This new party is apparently called the “Progressive” party now. I have no idea if Mr. Johnson is a Republican, nor do I care. This site is one of the few left where censorship is not imposed. No threats are allowed and very profane language is sometimes removed, but IDEAS? Never. I don’t agree with the Repug agenda and don’t particullary like John McCain, but the odd thing? I really trust him more than Obama and my vote in Nov. will be an attempt to win back the principles of the Democratic Party and if that means four years of McCain, I can live with that.
Anninca, it seems pretty clear to me and I am not willing to concede Denver. If the DNC breaks the rules or makes up new rules, that has to be pointed out on the Convention floor using procedural rules and points of order. I am convinced at least some of Hillary’s supporters are familiar with previous conventions and know some disruption tactics. If that idea offends you, sorry. It’s a bonafide tradition of the Democratic Party to fight for principles and when did we become so timid and fearful? For example, if Hillary’s name is put into nomination and voted on, but the vote is scheduled for 5am or midnight, to avoid msn coverage, it needs to be clear to Democrats not able to go to convention, exactly what is happening. If they succeed in nominating Obama, the plan is to defeat him in Nov. I’m not worried about leaders. There are leaders and it is my understanding they are studying the Rules carefully and will be willing to follow through. Everything the DNC and Obama are doing right now is to present a united front and if they use brute force, it will be obvious. Those are the goals as I understand them. Demand the nominating process and role call vote. Clearly object to any attempt to circumvent the rules. Defeat Obama and the DNC. The ultimate goal is to take back the Party from those who don’t even call themselves Democrats anymore, but “PROGRESSIVES”. And change the nominating process of the Party to reflect the votes of the majority and not the elite Party activists.
Thanks for the info on the Denver Group!!
Madamab….Movement transcendes the spark that initiated it….This is bigger than the politicians….PRINCIPLES BEFORE PERSONALITIES…..Good to hear
Yes but the point is that you still have to go to Denver, protest, try to get her name in nomination. Then the movement continues. It is a Boston Tea Party kind of moment.