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Polls and Race-Bait Fallout

1) From a new Rasmussen Poll out yesterday:
30% of Conservative Democrats Say They’ll Vote for McCain

Gallup had the race tied.

2) Obama is finally asked about the charge of race-baiting.

The Tampa Bay News and St. Petersburg Times interviewed Obama and he had this to say:

“I was in union, Missouri which is 98 percent white - a rural, conservative. and what I said was what I think everybody knows, which is that I don’t look like I came out of central casting when it comes to presidential candidates.
——————–

‘There was nobody there who thought at all that I was trying to inject race in this.

Nobody? Hmmmm. Seems like all the discussion on the ‘net, on tv and radio might just suggest otherwise.

Read the rest ->

3) Jennifer Rubin, at Commentary, seems to think we’ve reached a tipping point in race-baiting politics, at least as practiced by the Obama campaign.

One of the downsides of living in the bubble of the MSM and the warm embrace of most of the punditocracy is that you think everyone buys what you are selling, or at the very least is too polite to mention that you are making a fool of yourself. When the McCain camp called Barack Obama out for playing the race card, I imagine the Obama camp was stunned. But by the end of the day on Thursday it became apparent that Obama’s gambit was failing, and creating far more problems than the Obama team anticipated.

Obama’s Bill Burton tried to take back the race card. (But whoops– not in sufficient time to prevent the New York Times from looking foolish. Yes, yes you have to get up very early in the day to do that.) When The New Republic calls Obama’s move a “blunder” and the Hardball panel unanimously calls out Obama, it’s time to fold your hand.

After saying that playing the victim isn’t working and all the policy shifts have left a bad taste in voters’ mouths, Jennifer attempts to analyze what is going on:

Why isn’t it working? What’s wrong? You can imagine Hillary Clinton and her supporters banging their heads on their desks and emailing one another (”We told them!” “No one believed us!”) Time it appears has not been Obama’s friend. It has given more and more people time to think and discover that there may not be much behind the grand rhetoric. Others have figured out the degree to which Obama has concealed, evaded and fudged in setting out his political views. What does he believe? It’s unnerving to know so little and to realize he is perhaps the least forthright candidate in recent memory.

But she ends by saying the McCain campaign shouldn’t be too happy just yet.

3) Ward Connerly reminds us of Obama’s statements regarding affirmative action. Connerly, as you may know, has long been working to prohibit preferences through a consitituational amendment, and McCain recently came out in favor of Connerly’s position. During a campaign stop at the journalists of color convention, Obama expressed his “disappointment” in McCain’s position and mentioned Connerly by name. The following is part of Connerly’s response at TNR.

Also, it seems that Obama is divided against himself on the issue. In his famed “race speech,” when he was trying to appeal to white Democrats to get the issue of Jeremiah Wright off his back, he acknowledged that affirmative action engenders resentment. Just a few days ago, Obama suggested he was ready to support class-based instead of race-based affirmative action: “I am a strong supporter of affirmative action when properly structured so that it is not just a quota, but it is acknowledging and taking into account some of the hardships and difficulties that communities of color may have experienced, continue to experience, and it also speaks to the value of diversity in all walks of American life. We are becoming a more diverse culture, and it’s something that has to be acknowledged.”

I concur, but I might define “properly structured” differently than Obama does. What he fails to say is that it is not only “communities of color” that experience hardships and difficulties. Nor does he say how, as president, he can achieve his stated goal of uniting the American people while asking those not “of color” to look the other way when discriminated against.

If Obama is truly concerned about divisiveness, why didn’t he speak out when his foot soldiers at ACORN were taking pride in blocking our petition circulators from gathering signatures in Missouri? Their despicable tactics of harassment give new meaning to the term “divisive.”

Agree or not with Connerly, it does seem Obama has said different things about preferences. Where he will actually fall is anyone’s guess, but it’s good to remember the famous “race speech” was a necessary one in response to the Rev. Wright fiasco.

4) Saturday’s NYT isn’t at all sure Obama even realizes he’s injecting race into the campaign. After making the statement to FL papers mentioned above, the NYT apparently decided to figure out whether or not Obama meant to race-bait. It called his response to McCain’s charge “muted.”

The muted response should not be taken, even campaign insiders acknowledged, to reflect high-mindedness; the Obama campaign can wield a rhetorical gutting knife. There simply was no percentage for the first black major-party presidential candidate in the nation’s history to draw too much attention to his race, much less get into a shooting war with the Republicans over the combustible issue.

“For our part, there is no stake in abetting that strategy,” Mr. Axelrod said. “The best we could do is call this and move on.”

The paper does go on to say that Obama:

. . .tends to back into his attacks. So he cues up Mr. McCain as “an honorable man”
and a “war hero,” before skewering him as lacking in ideas.

But what about Obama’s race-baiting during speeches? Well, that’s not it at all.

Still, the candidate has the peculiar habit of rehearsing his faults for listeners, apparently in an effort to inoculate himself against attacks. And that could be how Mr. Obama got himself tangled up in race.

Got tangled up? Well, then the NYT goes on to say how this SHOULD have worked and how Obama bungled it.

The candidate and Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, traveled this week around the Republican precincts of rural Missouri. Ms. McCaskill tried to set minds at ease by recalling an “old Ozark habit” of saying “they say,” as in, they say he’s too young, they say he’s not the right color.

So far, so politically artful; she never specified Republicans, much less Mr. McCain.

But when Mr. Obama traveled this rhetorical ground, he tripped. “So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Mr. Obama said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough. He’s got a funny name. You know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills.”

Even some Republicans are not convinced that Mr. Obama intended to accuse Mr. McCain of racism, as there’s no percentage for him. Mr. McCain talks of himself as experienced but never, ever, old; Mr. Obama talks of change but charily of his status as a historic first.

So, the race-baiting is really inartful bungling by a super-smart AA of a line a typical white person could deliver without a problem. Interesting. Do you buy this? I don’t. If this were the first time Obama tried this line, I’d be more inclined to agree with the NYT. However, this “funny name” , “looks different” refrain is an old one, as HRC supporters can attest.

Perhaps this strategy is finally played out and the campaign knows it and is kicking it under the bus. Or perhaps this story is just notice that we can expect “inartful bungling” of race issues from Obama until. . . Until when???

6) Paired with the above NYT article is a column by Bob Herbert. A screed against the McCain “celebrity ad,” for Herbert it’s all about race.

Both ads were foul, poisonous and emanated from the upper reaches of the Republican Party. (What a surprise.) Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The racial fantasy factor in this presidential campaign is out of control. It was at work in that New Yorker cover that caused such a stir. (Mr. Obama in Muslim garb with the American flag burning in the fireplace.) It’s driving the idea that Barack Obama is somehow presumptuous, too arrogant, too big for his britches — a man who obviously does not know his place.

Mr. Obama has to endure these grotesque insults with a smile and heroic levels of equanimity. The reason he has to do this — the sole reason — is that he is black.

One of the most nauseating aspects of all this race-baiting is that it is so hypocritical coming from the Obama camp. After all, it was THAT campaign that not-so-subtly suggested that HRC had “ups and downs” when she would “periodically” lash out - a misogynist attack among several against her.

Not so? Well, I call bs on that. If you can discern subtle racial attacks in every person opposing you, then you damn well know when you engage in it yourself. Seems to me if putting a picture of a vacuous celebrity next to Obama is offensive, so should a wink-wink finger scratch on the face where the audience screams in approval. So should a statement about how to beat a female candidate in a post-OJ era.

Once again, a playground aphorism is the best : He who smelt it, dealt it.

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Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 09:51:41

Everyone knew the GOP would call out the uselss candidate on his oly form of attack, race baiting.

It is too bad HRC wasn’t as able during the primaries due to Party politics, because Obama would be toast right now.

Sounds like time for Obama to give ANOTHER major speech, so what bands are available to bring in the crowds for the pathological lying messiah?

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:02:55

Sounds like time for Obama to give ANOTHER major speech, so what bands are available to bring in the crowds for the pathological lying messiah?

Isn’t the American Idol Tour going on right now? He’d fit right in with one of their performances.

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:09:55

Why wasn’t Hillary able to call out race baiting attacks? Are you saying Democrats condone race baiting? Or is it more likely that Hillary and Bill were injecting race into the campaign themselves?

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 10:15:06

Your questions are not even worth responding to troll, but nice try on the Saul Alinsky method of switch-a-rooing for self gain, but your ignorance is obvious as can be!

 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-02 10:17:53

When Obama went to South Carolina and started using the favorite words of Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X, HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZELED and OKIE-DOKE, to let the black folks know that he was “Black Enough”. This went right over the head of White Folks and the MSM wouldn’t say Sh*t if they had a mouthful. The DEMS and the DNC didn’t say anything, Obama was their boy, he can do no wrong, he is THE ONE!

Comment by David A. Is That You Trolling? | 2008-08-02 10:34:29

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-02 10:17:53

When Obama went to South Carolina and started using the favorite words of Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X, HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZELED and OKIE-DOKE, to let the black folks know that he was “Black Enough”. This went right over the head of White Folks and the MSM wouldn’t say Sh*t if they had a mouthful. The DEMS and the DNC didn’t say anything, Obama was their boy, he can do no wrong, he is THE ONE!

If you know anything about public presentations and speech communication, the first thing to understand is to know your audience and speak in language (jargon) that is used by your audience. So, now we are to rewrite public presentation manuals because of Obama.

How about Obama changing his accent and using certain words depending on his audience? When he talks about “Kansas” and “traditional values,” is that to let the white folks know that he is “White Enough”?

This is ridiculous and a good reason why Obama should lose. This type of thought control and social engineering doesn’t unify people; it separates them.

 
 

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 10:22:28

Obama’s campaign began this year with a win in Iowa and Jesse Jackson, Jr.’s statement to the Washington Post (Junior is Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair):

“The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”

This statement is just the tip of the iceberg of a series of race baiting (and sexist statements) made by Obama and him minions.

Can you identify equivalent race baiting by the Clintons?

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:30:38

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

Dick Morris has also said repeatedly that it was the Clinton campaign that tried to lose SC big so that it would show the public that Obama is really the black candidate.

Of course as we now know in hindsight, these tactics didn’t work.

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:34:49

You can slice that cattle flop all you want but it is still bullsh*t.

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:38:07

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

??????
Please give us evidence of this. I honestly can’t imagine Bill or Hillary using the expression “crack dealer” in any kind of public forum. The Clintons are too politically saavy for that.

Dick Morris has also said repeatedly that it was the Clinton campaign that tried to lose SC big so that it would show the public that Obama is really the black candidate.

Sorry, but I consider anything Morris has to say about the Clintons sour grapes.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:11:42

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

That came from Shaheen in NH referring to Obama’s cocaine use which O wrote about in his book. The Clintons QUICKLY got rid of Shaheen from the campaign.

 
 

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 10:45:38

Your first allegation is beyond merit. Provide evidence of your statement.

Dick Morris hates the Clintons. Morris had to resign from the Clinton Administration after it was reported he was involved with a prostitute. He has hated the Clintons ever since. He obviously has a vendetta against the Clintons.

You will have to provide better evidence and a source than Dick Morris.

Study history and logic before attempting to make a persuasive argument.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/morris.htm

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:50:37

His novel was quite articulate about his drug use. Fair game.

 

Comment by Flforexperience | 2008-08-02 11:00:20

Dick Morris hates the Clintons ever since they stopped asking for his advice during Bill Clinton’s presidency. It was probably a mistake to ever ask for his advice, but the Congress was heavily Republican at the time. It is exceedingly apparent on Fox. Hillary Clinton never said anything about Barack Obama and drug use. Barack Obama spoke about his use of “blow” in his Dreams of my Father book. There is no way she would deliberately want to lose SC.

 

Comment by Donna Brazile | 2008-08-02 11:03:01

The desparation in your illogical argument is astoundingly funny.

I am concerned that you may have a neurological problem that needs immediate medical attention.

But thanks for the good laugh.

Dick Morris– LMAO– you mean the one Clinton fired. ROTFLMAO.

Stop the hate.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:27:18

Sometimes I think you must come from another world to use such twisted logic as “the Clinton campaigned planned to lose SC big.” Now really. Really. Do people put in all this effort to lose? No, they don’t.

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-08-02 12:48:35

Dick Morris? You take your talking points from Dick Morris?? Your even more foolish and gullible than I though “freedom fighter”.

 

Comment by Kat5 | 2008-08-02 12:50:58

Ah, Freedom Fighter. Sounds like all the halfway decent names were already taken at Obot HQ. You make Saran wrap look positively opaque.

 

Comment by ParkSlopeVoter | 2008-08-02 13:43:57

Hey, freedom,

Go eat shit and die… Thanks!

-MS

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 13:47:15

Obama as a crack dealer. He is not street smart enough to be slaggin.

He is a consumer of mass quantities of indifference.

 
 
 

Comment by Leisa | 2008-08-02 10:28:02

FF,

You are an idiot. No more needs to be said about your convoluted and twisted way of thinking.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:32:35

Because the RACE BAITING has been started, carried out and masterminded by the OBAMA CAMPAIGN !!!

Now go back to the hole you came from.

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-02 12:36:51

Don’t be dumb. It is because it was democrat against democrat and she couldn’t make the one look too bad just in case he’d be the nominee. The Republicans do not care at all about slaughtering the stupid fool Obarfy! It doesn’t hurt them at all.

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-02 15:47:36

Which is one of the major reasons I am supporting the Republicans and John McCain this year. I want the truth about Nobama to be heard by All Americans..and then if they elect him…well then I guess Americans want to be the New Europe…but I don’t think they do…Nobama’s membership at TUCC confirmed to me that Nobama is a racist and uses his Black skin color when it advances his own political gain…It also rallies all his Black Racist Supporters…they love it..

 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:46:44

No we’re saying that Democrats are so hung up on PC, they take this kind of shit and Obama knew they would.

For God’s sakes, we have Honor murders going on in this country and the left left left wing of my party wants to excuse it as “cultural”.

Nuff said.

 

Comment by mary | 2008-08-03 19:44:48

Hillary and Bill were victimized by the Axlord Obama dirty Chicago sewer politicking using the RACE BAITING CARD–same way they tried to do it with McCain. It didn’t stick. Why? Because as the McCain campain person said himself they “learned their lesson from the way Pres. Clinton was disrespectfully treated during the primaries.”

The Repugs have to thank Pres. Clinton for their successfully throwing the punches back at the Obama dirty rats!

GO PUMAS, ROAR!

NoBama ‘08

 
 

Comment by scott in jupiter | 2008-08-02 10:12:57

He’s got Springsteen I’m sure a free concert in Central Park would bring them out.

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 12:47:03

He has Striseind too, that is Barbra

 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:19:12

Exactly Mel. It won’t work anymore, too many times of crying “wolf”, and truly very few care to hear it. It doesn’t help anyone, if anything it really causes further problems for race relations, no one likes to be falsely accused of anything. Having caused a rift in the Democratic party because of allowing this, and labeling one half of the party because they disagree with one candidate is going to hurt all the way through to election day, and will not easily be forgotten.

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-08-02 11:09:57

Hillary had to fight Obama’s racebaiting with hands tied behind her back — his campaign with media being complicit and an amplifier used every dirty trick and twisted everything both Clintons’ said without regard to the fact that they were of their own party and one of them was a successful 2-term president. Given their stature, Clintons could not go after this imbecile in an all out brawl and make it worse — it would have been that because it was Obama and the media against these people and one incendiary topic like race and myths like Hillary will do anything to win (in the end she was the one who ran a principled race based on issues with the general population and their well being in mind by being restrained on race and sexism both of which were used by Obama and the media to ill effects on the society in general). Frankly, I think everybody was stunned that Obama could do this to his own party candidate. This has been Axelrod’s MO in other races as well, see NY mayor’s race during the primary, I think it was Green vs. Ferrer. Unfortunately for Obama and Axelrod, republicans are smarter and they have watched the primary and know the bag of dirty tricks coming out of Obama.

 

Comment by JustSayin | 2008-08-02 12:47:08

McCain ad from June and July mocks Obama’s image on the 100 dollar bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU&eurl

Comment by JustSayin | 2008-08-02 12:48:57

Obama’s comment was that he may not look like the Presidents we know from dollar bills. McCain ran an ad poking fun at just that. Race baiting? McCain’s campaign needs to chill.

 
 
 

Comment by carol | 2008-08-02 09:53:57

Obama - liar and racist.

We all know it. He needs to stop pretending that is not what he meant.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:32:38

If Obama thinks its about his “looks” he is being totally delusional. He is simply not what America NEEDS or wants in the white house at this crucial moment in time.

The kids want him cause he’s young. Young and inexperience might be fine for the celeb wannabees, but it is not fine for POTUS.

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:08:38

Personally, I want him in the Oval Office because he’s proven again and again that he’s unflappable and has good judgment. His opponent, Jackass John, has proven over and over again that he’s a corrupt, lying, hot-tempered sack of shit.

At any rate, this blog used to be funny. The blatant racism, the sour grapes, the way that Republican plants intermingled with delusional Hillary supporters. Now it’s just sad.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:14:44

Good Judgement?? Troll, you can’t be serious about that. Man their must be meth in that koolaid. LMAO!

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:28:30

Your response, coming as it is from a blog of alleged Hillary supporters who now seem to be supporting John McCain, a man who is in favor of all those things Hillary opposes and vice versa, shall be taken for what it is worth.

And I’m not trolling so much as commenting on how sad it is when a small group of people self-segregate and begin to think that their view is even approaching the mainstream, desperately clinging to any odd scrap of information that supports this view. See “Gallup says the race is tied” above, while any idiot can look at an electoral map and see that, at the moment, Obama wins the electoral college 336-202.

But no, what we have here is a people so convinced of their own, very minority worldview, that they are willing to vote for a guy whose economic policy was written by Phil Gramm, for God’s sake, to avoid admitting that maybe the other guy who agrees with the former candidate they claim to support, could possibly be right. But, you know, good for you. At least you’re not blowing up schools.

I guess.

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-08-02 13:50:05

It’s Oblowme’s anti-American terrorist friends that bomb American places Ass.

Illinois Combine Comrades visit Columbine =
DNC ‘08 Convention

Peddle your Foolaide by Oblowme’s new offshore drilling.

 

Comment by Ferdberfle | 2008-08-02 13:55:54

At least you’re not blowing up schools.

Droll, troll.

At least you’re not breeding while you’re here posting your drivel. You can go now, dud.

 
 
 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-08-02 11:22:47

Actually it is your post that is funny. Do you realize you are making a complete fool of yourself?

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:32:11

I think the response “Could be, but at least I’m not voting for McCain” is very valid on this blog.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 11:51:39

It’s not John McCain’s fault that Obama can’t close the sale. Senator Britney couldn’t even close the deal in his own party’s primary, have you forgotten that bit of trivia?

 
 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:33:03

 

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-08-02 11:38:03

Yeah, those stories about the war are a regular laugh riot…

More insight into the the mind of an Oblowme fan.

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-02 12:41:50

Oh, my God! Did you really say that? Incredible! If that fool had any good judgement, he would have dropped out of the primary to back Clinton (the one more likely to win the Whitehouse), vied for VP on her ticket, gained some experience and possibly a backbone and some stances and then ran for POTUS after her. A 16 year Democratic rule that I was really expecting, as opposed to no, we’re Barack Obama and the loser DNC and we’d rather risk having a 0 year democratic Whitehouse. That is poor judgement all around! I mean Geezus, the guy would have only been 52 years old!

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-08-02 12:55:46

I have to say, I think BO is the most ‘flappable’ person in public life - if he’s off the teleprompter he’s either not making sense or race-baiting. Those are his 3 main means of communication — teleprompter, incoherence and playing the victim of mean, old racist America.

He’s also very flip-floppy…every day he gets up goes outside, sticks his finger to the political wind…and follows it wherever it leads. He doesn’t believe in anything (apart from his own ‘greatness’) so it’s easy for him.

 
 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 13:02:51

No, he is not young, inexperienced but not young. Juvenile, yes but not young, some would even call him infantile…. He panders to the young, some would even say preys on the young. He lets them know, “hey I dig drugs too. I can do street moves and I let my kids listen to nasty songs, and I have an ipod loaded with rap.” He is buying votes with concerts that target the young… footage at 11:00, means free ads. He is a user, user, user and only wanna be young and king of the world…

 
 

Comment by Jim S | 2008-08-02 10:57:39

Interesting article reqarding Bambi ib ==n the 90’s. He was a racist then and he;s a racist now.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 16:34:37

It was an interesting, irony is the more effort that went in to “anti-profiling” efforts on BO’s part the deeper he went into the BLT and the web of south side politics.
—-
Just so you know, apparently NEW RULZ from HLS;anyone crossing into or out of a US border mayhave their laptop or other electronic devices copied and or impounded “for a reasonable period of time”. Better get your pen usb sticks while you can.

Cofer Black is now the head of Blackwater Intel; a coroporate mirror of government responsibilites. It is official; BO loves FISA. WE THE PEOPLE?

 
 
 

Comment by JKFriz | 2008-08-02 09:56:09

I think that the “periodically” dead horse has been beaten so badly it’s almost unrecognizable. Really, no one’s willing to acknowledge even a slight possibility that “periodically” means “every now and then”?

Criticisms like these do nothing but demean some of your other, more valid critiques.

Comment by no waffles aka drkate | 2008-08-02 10:05:15

it is a subtlety apparently you don’t understand. But women do hear this and Obama is a sexist as well as a racist. What about the rap songs he loves calling HRC a B****?

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-02 15:55:31

Oh I remember his 99 problems but the B*tch wasn’t one of them…hmmm the Republicans and women over 40 must have been those 99 problems…

 
 

Comment by Mary Lou | 2008-08-02 10:08:27

Axlerod helps Obama CHOOSE his words every bit as carefully as Rove helped Bush CHOOSE his. You can believe periodically was one of those well chosen words.
The goal is to raise questions about the fitness of the opponent, but in a kind of “vague” way, not clear or specific enough to be challenged.
Thank heavens more people seem to be noticing when they are being played.

 

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:15:20

Whatever troll, you’re just a troll trying to incite this blog. Who cares what a troll says.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:53:04

Sorry but the cialis crowd doesn’t have a boner to pick with this …. women got it.

 

Comment by steven Mather | 2008-08-02 14:21:46

JKFriz,

You are wrong and I have some data to prove that you are wrong.

Let me start by saying that Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. He knows that words matter and he knows what they mean.

I am a Ph.D. student, with a background in qualitative and quantitative research. I showed a 30 second excerpt of the tape to a sample population of 30 Canadian adults who were not well-informed about the US primaries. The sample was selected by convenience among staff members at a technical institute and coffee shop goers in a small rural community.

They were provided with no advance knowledge of the content or context of the tape. Each viewed the tape twice before comments were allowed. 26 out of 30 of the respondents said that Obama was commenting on Hillary having PMS.

That 26 out of the 30 adults I surveyed say that the comments refer to Hillary having PMS is a pretty good indicator that reasonable people disagree with you about what counts as a good critique, at least in this regard. This said, my sample population is too small and lacking in randomness as I did it just for fun and not for publication.

Reasonable people can disagree on what Obama meant, but it is clear that many reasonable people think Obama was making a sexist comment about Hillary and that they are right to think so, given normal social conventions on what words mean.

Yours, Steven

 
 

Comment by Fandango13 | 2008-08-02 09:57:42

Oh Mel, please no, not another speech! Haven’t we suffered enough?

PUMA

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:15:40

Speaking of which, how many more times will we have to suffer the sex fantasy projections of Obot “journalists”:

Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The Paris/Britney reference was all about emptyheaded celebrity. Which is appropriate, since Obama is essentially a MSM production.

Comment by yttik | 2008-08-02 10:45:29

I read that. Unbelievable.

I also think there’s a lot of sexism in that accusation. They see Spears and Hilton in an ad and the first thing so called “progressives” think is “hos”? In fact some of the so called “progressive” comments said exactly that. One guy called Spears and Hilton “trash” and then accuses McCain of trying to trigger racism. You can’t play this card both ways.

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:54:13

I can’t believe that came from Herbert …

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 13:16:00

Oh yea over at the Political Machine Tommy Christopher and his hangers on were going on and on and on about the significance of two blonde white women. It is odd that they didn’t bring up the age difference too, but then they were focused on …….drumroll what else but RACISM! gag

 
 
 

Comment by OBSP | 2008-08-02 10:24:14

He can’t do another speech now. Chris Matthew’s is on vacation and what’s a BO speech without a Chris leg tingle?

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:39:54

Please, my lunch.

 
 
 

Comment by breeze | 2008-08-02 09:58:22

Slightly OT:

I’ve been living in St. Petersburg, Fl. for twenty years and, let me make this clear, those three young
protesters yesterday were not just ‘off the street’.

They were UHURU Members.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Uhuru movement

The Uhuru Movement refers to a group of organizations under the principle of “African internationalism,” or the liberation of Africans in both the continent of Africa and in the African Diaspora. ‘Uhuru’ is a Swahili word for freedom. The Movement is led by Yeshitela’s African People’s Socialist Party (APSP).

The APSP has formed several organizations, each with specific tasks and purpose. Affiliated organizations include The International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement, African Socialist International, African People’s Solidarity Committee, and Burning Spear Productions, as well as others.

In May 1972, after his release from prison, Yeshitela founded the St. Petersburg-based African People’s Socialist Party (APSP), a political party founded on an ideology combining black nationalism and socialism called “African internationalism.” [2] Yeshitela later set up an organization for white people to join in solidarity with the APSP’s goals, the African People’s Solidarity Committee.

Later, the APSP formed the International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement to work under the guiding principle that the only way for Africans to achieve liberation and self-determination is to struggle for an all-African socialist government under the leadership of African workers and poor peasants.

Yeshitela has also established the African People’s Education and Defense Fund, which seeks to address disparities in education and health faced by African Africans, and Burning Spear Productions, the publishing arm of the APSP.

The APSP is affiliated with the African Socialist International, an organization Yeshitela helped establish that seeks to unite African socialists and national liberation movements under a single revolutionary umbrella in opposition to imperialism and neocolonialism.

Yeshitela has set up a coalition promoting reparations for slavery, arguing that African people worldwide are due reparations for more than slavery, but also over 500 years of colonialism and neocolonialism.

There is a lot more info at Wiki, if anyone is
interested………

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I AM AFRAID THAT ‘THE ONE’ MADE A BIG MISTAKE HERE….

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:08:14

The ‘Chickens” that supported Obama’s political career are coming home to roost!!

Wright, Farrakhan & NOI, The New Black Panthers, the Weather Underground and Uhuru have not “MADE” Obama for nothing. They will come for payback.

Question is how would an Obama Pres. pay back to all those who help him get here and now are demanding their share? He would of course *have to* do sth. b/c of re-election.

Obama’s past is far too compromised with extremists that will FOR SURE go looking for their share once he’s in office.

The “hecklers” in FL are the tip of the iceberg.

Comment by georgia | 2008-08-02 10:22:44

You can say that again! Very good article backs you up: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6a42365c-5ffa-11dd-805e-000077b07658.html

 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:39:13

Yeah, I kinda thought there goes the (South Chicago) neighborhood, under the bus–what about that blood in the street stuff they like to rant about, if they are down lying in it with us–

 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:00:06

Jennifer Rubin has her analysis just right !!

Good post LisaB: thanks for the excellent round up on the subject!

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-08-02 10:02:09

Picture the Wizard of Oz scene with the melting witch, but substitute Howard Dean screaming “We’re shrinking, we’re shrinking!”

Yes, the Democratic ranks are shrinking. Per Rasmussen:

Saturday, August 02, 2008

During July, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Democrats fell two percentage points to 39.2%. That’s the first time since January that the number of Democrats has fallen below 41% (snip).

While the number of Democrats declined, there was virtually no change in the number of Republicans. In July, 31.6% said they were Republicans, the fourth straight month that number has been below 31.4% and 31.6%.

The Democrats now have a 7.6 percentage point advantage over the Republicans, down from a 9.5 percentage point advantage in June and 10.1
percentage points in May.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/party_affiliation/partisan_trends

Could it be that people like my wife and I who considered themselves Democrats are now checking off the “Independent” box? Maybe. Here’s what the pollster notes:

In January and February, while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were in the early stages of the battle for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the number of Americans who considered themselves to be Democrats surged to record highs.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-02 11:28:47

Howard Dean…snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

With aplomb, too.

Ass.

 
 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-02 10:02:13

Time is not Barky NObama’s friend, never has been.
He can’t close the deal. Those who are undecided break against him. That is his record. No amount of money or ads can change that for Barky. If you didn’t like him instantly, the passage of time and learning more about him just cements that dislike. Juxtapose that against McCain. With McCain undecided voters are just waiting for a reason TO vote for him. Barky is toast in November.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:14:56

You are mistaken. By all news accounts, this election is all but settled. It will be a slam dunk in November for Obama. McCain should spare himself the humiliation and take his own name off the ballot.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:16:46

ha, another silly troll “comment”, just ignore it.

 

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 10:18:34

Sure the only way Obama could possibly win in Nov is if McCain took his name off the ballot and even then it would be a toss up if Obama would win….lmao

 

Comment by Chicago Joe | 2008-08-02 10:19:15

You are the one who is mistaken. The attack machine hasn’t even started on BHO and they are tied. Once the general public starts paying attention—you know those of us here read everything and live, breathe and eat this stuff—they are going to run away from BHO in droves. He is too unknown, his positions too fluid, and his socialist policies will undermine what most Americans view as the American Dream. And once they start pulling out oppo research, he is toast.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:35:50

The Repubs are getting desperate. They are now attacking a historic African American candidate as a racist. Are we now living in Bizzaro world?

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:40:15

Historic? You are certainly pleased with yourself, huh, smegma breath?

Historic only in the sense that he, if nominated, will be the first black loser. Better get someone with some experience and less egocentricity if you want to win.

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:42:45

Are we now living in Bizzaro world?

You’re definitely living in a Bizzaro world. If you really believe the stuff you’re posting, then you’re not living in the world that the rest of us are living in.

 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:43:26

The republicans aren’t desperate, they will fight the good fight as they have nothing to lose, not the same for the democratic party. You chastised and insulted and told half of the party to go away, so we have nothing to lose.
However the O campaign has everything to lose.

 

Comment by sprout | 2008-08-02 11:41:55

“Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:35:50

The Repubs are getting desperate. They are now attacking a historic African American candidate as a racist. Are we now living in Bizzaro world?”


no, they’re pointing out that obama is a racist, there’s a big difference.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:45:56

The Republicans aren’t desperate or even fighting dirty at all. They are still saving their money, watching Obama destroy himself. He literally is creating the weapons against himself, and has kept the criticism at bay by playing on people’s fear of being labeled racists. But he’s done it too much. Now everyone is apparently some level of racist so who cares anymore.

 
 
 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:20:27

Somehow I don’t think Old Mac has that on his agenda. No, not this week.

Actually, I am pleasantly surprised at the intensity of the latest McCain ads. These ads are designed to do one thing only: to take BO out.
To cut him off at the knees. David Gergen is not one of my favorite talking heads, but I do agree with his comment that McCain has started a knife fight. Men who begin knife fights usually have an objective in mind, and it’s not to take themselves out of the rumble.

Comment by fif | 2008-08-02 10:26:55

McCain comes from a long line of warriors. Obama is a weakling and it will show more and more.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:33:51

Please, if McCain is such a warrior, why was a POW? He obviously wasn’t that good a warrior. Obama on the other has been reported to be able to curl a 70lb weight without breaking a sweat. Senator Obama is no weakling, and as Jack Cafferty of CNN says, he is also no man’s fool. McCain doesn’t stand a chance.