Backing Into The Presidency
By Ani on August 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM in Barack Obama, David Axelrod, Flip Flopping, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Presidential Candidates, off-shore drilling
According to Associated Press,
Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain’s challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.
Odd after Senator Obama’s earlier statement to McCain that he would meet anytime, anywhere to debate “the real issues.”
In summer, stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.
This harkens back to an interview Lou Dobbs did with respected political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf, recently, who said “Obama just needs to keep his head down and not make any mistakes until the Convention.”
I think that ship has sailed. Even the adoring media treatment Senator Obama was enjoying until very recently has started to sour. According to Dana Milbank of WaPo, some reporters are now referring to Obama as a “prom queen.”
McCain’s campaign spokesperson, Brian Rogers, was quick to pounce on this:
“We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he’ll reconsider.”
Those McCain ads poking fun at the celebrity candidacy of Obama and comparing him to Moses parting the Red Sea are gaining traction, not only with the media, but with the American public. Polls are a statistical dead heat, a disaster for a Democrat at this point in the campaign.
Considering that the Republican brand is so damaged this year, why wouldn’t Senator Obama relish the opportunity to meet Senator McCain face to face at the first possible opportunity? If he is offering so much hope and change to us – why not stand before the American people and share concrete ideas so we can compare and contrast the two candidates. Surely that would give him a bump. No?
John McCain is no great speaker or debater. It’s not like Barack has to face off against Hillary Clinton – then I could understand him being scared. She would dance circles around him – and has.
In May, the McCain campaign came up with the idea to challenge Obama to 10 town hall meetings. Obama’s first response was more positive:
“Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but … if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that’s something that I am going to welcome.”
Guess he’s not going to welcome those town halls after all. And what logistics, exactly? Talk about keeping your head down.
An excellent article by Frank Salvato, Managing Editor of New Media Journal brings another point into sharp relief:
In light of the shameful snubbing Barack Obama inflicted upon the wounded US military personnel at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, it is painfully clear that he is not the candidate of “change.” If anything he is this election cycle’s version of the status quo; a hybrid of inflated rhetoric and Madison Avenue glitz. He offers hollow bumper-sticker catchphrase solutions (“yes we can,” “hope,” and “change”) to political, social and ideological problems he is ill-equipped to address professionally. This is the typical trade-craft of a political operative possessing an extremely limited political resume.
Those not blinded by the “bright, shiny thing” – the distractions of the hollow rhetoric and media marketing – understand that Obama is a political creation of the Chicago Democrat Machine; the Chicago Daley Machine. He is a slickly choreographed media tool meant to reinvent the image of the Democrat[ic] Party for the 21st Century.
The problem is that a symbol, as Obama now calls himself, does not and is not able to govern. Something the DNC would do well to keep in mind.
The first clue to this reality is the fact that his main campaign handler (some would say “puppet master”) is David Axelrod, a longtime strategist for Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who fancies himself a “strategist in urban politics.” More recently, proof of the Chicago connection can be seen in the fact that the DNC moved a major portion of its operations to Chicago.
As Obama’s ego grows, so does the budding discontent within his base and his political party.
He has flip-flopped on so many issues and now, offshore oil drilling, leaving none other than his biggest fan, Nancy Pelosi, under the bus. I wonder if she’ll still want to walk with her arm wrapped around his waist.
Certainly MoveOn.Org and many others have felt the sting of his about-face on major issues very recently. FISA comes to mind. The habit of flip flopping is a dangerous one. You never know when the next one is coming.
There is an old adage about unfaithful husbands. If you got him because he was cheating on his wife with you, be prepared for him to cheat on you with someone else – once you are the wife.
I am not clear how voters can still support a man who has shown himself to be little more than a media creation, afraid to show his face at a town hall, who surrenders the majority of the positions he campaigned on without so much as a whimper. What changes are we talking about exactly? What hope is there left? His defenders are quick to say that he has to move to the center for the general election. But he is doing more than that. He is running to the right at lightning speed. Even still, why is he not willing to defend those moves before John McCain and the voters?
I realize I did not mention the name of Mr. Salvato’s article above: Hey Barack, Hillary Only Suspended Her Campaign. This might be something for super delegates to keep in mind, as well as Democratic Party voting stalwarts:
Should Barack Obama continue his slide into ego’s abyss, his campaign of arrogance, naively buying his own marketing scheme, should he continue to alienate the loose association of factions that make up the total of his base, he risks fiddling as his Rome burns; he risks facilitating the migration of super delegates from his candidacy to Hillary Clinton’s. Remember, she suspended her campaign, she didn’t end it.
Senator Clinton’s policies, progressive and straightforward from the beginning, would require no waffling now. She would not need to keep her head down. She would not need to back into the job.
The pressure cooker that is the White House, particularly with our current slate of serious problems, requires someone of great moral courage, experience and intestinal fortitude. Surely someone with the courage of their convictions is never afraid to show up, any time, any place to make their case to the American people. By any standards this would and should be an effective way to move the debate forward.
It might require Senator Obama to roll up his sleeves a bit more than he has to this point. His impatience was much in evidence the other day when dealing with hecklers in Florida:
‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’
We are talking about the toughest job in the world and snarking at voters, rather than addressing their concerns isn’t going to get it done. Contrast this behavior with John McCain in a similar situation recently. He answered a rather hostile man’s question and offered him a chance to follow up. They must have gone back and forth five times and wound up having a respectful exchange – until the man was satisfied and Senator McCain could continue.
Does anyone doubt Hillary Clinton would likewise handle herself in this way?
If Senator Obama lacks the willingness, and yes, humility, to make himself available to the American people in a town hall setting where he faces real competition, and one-on-one confrontations with voters, one might argue he is not possessed of the strength or knowledge to lead. He cannot ‘keep his head down’ forever.
Sooner or later, he will have to face the music.
The American people are waiting.


Excellent Ani….I don’t see why Obama would give up the opportunity since his supporters are painting his opponent as just another old white guy…LOL
he will say and do anything to get in the white house, and then you can kiss this country goodbye..this is no normal election, he will destroy us all…
pelosi and reid are socialized marxists,,,they hate america, just love the money
about time people start to realize the truth of what is going on here..
voter fraud,,will get him in ,you watch, gore tried it and messed up, theyve had alot of practice, look how he got the senate and the nom? just sitting on the computer isnt going to stop them…protesting will help,,have to get out in droves, and protest this liar commy,,radical marxist…and his buddies..before its to late..
What are you afraid of, Obama? No guts no glory!
It is time Obama replaces his Burger King crown with a tiara.
According to Hillbuz Obama’s supporters are keeping that pesky New Book OBAMANATION off the shelves at Borders Bookstores in several cities…
Welcome to the New Americastan…..Free Speech is so…ho-hum….and 20th century….
I stopped in Borders yesterday morning looking for the book and the manager told me it will not hit the streets till Tuesday.
Hillbuz has been runnin stories on it….Check it out
I went to two barnes and Nobles yesterday around Chgo. The first “didn’t have it,” but I bought it at the second. try them.
he lied, unless he is talking about the other one, you can check borders by zipcode to see if it is in stock in your store (or is that barnes?) either way Obamanation is in stores now
Support NQ and just order it from Amazon. It’s there.
Whats happening on Monday?
GORE tried voter fraud??? What are you talking about? Please get back on your meds.
It seems the AP article left out an important paragraph that resonates with what political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf said. Namely:
This is in
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_debates
third paragraph.
Wimp…
THE MARIONETTE WILL NOT DEBATE
Can’t wait to see what bunker he flees to when all those mean foreign powers won’t play by his rules. If he can’t face off with McCain without his debate attack dog Rahm Emanuel structuring the event, well, he is a lot less courageous than he would have us believe.
uh um I um uh think that someone should point out to princess graceless that he is in a statistical dead heat and losing support.
And he’s not much of a front runner. Tied in Gallup, one point ahead in Rasmussen, and not as popular as McCain:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
andy — Has it occurred to Obama that perhaps having such a high profile as he has is turning people off? He should share his high profile in the hopes that people will tire of McCain as well. I guess he’s to chicken chit scared to do that.
Indeed; thougth the quote at Yahoo above was quite telling of the hubris and fear of his campaign.
Bad formula.
Indeed; thought the quote at Yahoo above was quite telling of the hubris and fear of his campaign.
Bad formula.
1. obama knows mccain would kick his tush in a debate. imagine that and he a harvard trained attorney and all.
2. obama is in my humble opinion addicted to the acclaim. he needs it and doesn’t want the ugly job of answering questions. Note the way he treated those aa gents in florida. you don’t like it, then you run won’t get you votes barry.
now all of this is resulting in obama getting into a difficult position with voters even before the convention. the repubs are just now bringing out the big guns. the dim leadership is beyond stupid in my book.
Do you think BO wants any more Rezko questions?
Remember the 8 questions he took on that subject? Handled it like a pro.
BO does not have ANY intention of confronting himself, which is the abyss.
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Magic Mirror: This your heart you hold.
The problem is, his campaign’s notion is false — Obama is not the “frontrunner” — it would be more truthful for his people to say:
hanging on BY a thread…
‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’
Is this the guy his wife says is the “only one capable of healing our souls?” God help us.
Can you imagine Barack telling his wife:
if you do’t like my answers, marry someone else and go live elsewhere…
I can see BOTH of them saying that to each other.
Well, her especially.
yes I can
Remarks like that is why Jesse wants to cut off his nuts! LOL
Rev. Jackson’s words were rough but I believe his opinion of Obama’s behavior towards AAs is valid. There is likely much discontent (behind the scenes) amongst Obama’s prominent AA supporters. He is gradually throwing them under the bus, one by one. The last ones standing will be from the Chicago Machine.
Well given that Obama cannot pass up on his compulsive habit of lecturing the AA community on family values while neglecting to mention how he treats Po’ African Granny who doesn’t need Imperialist Plumbing…
Who could blame him…I DO….Jesse Jackson did what a lot of schmucks did…HE LET HIMSELF BE COERCED BY HIS CHILD INTO SUPPORTING THIS FASCIST !
This story is is for Uppity and anyone who wants to know what lenghts this man will go to be POTUS. When barry went to Kenya 2 summers ago, all in the village were excited, not because he was a us senator, but the tradition in Keyna is when the oldest grandchild returns he would have a house build for the eldest (his black grandmother). They were very upset because he offered his grandmother nothing. No house and she was upset about all the media.
In closing, he did not push her under the bus, he put her under the chicken coop.
do you have a link for that? I do not doubt you but want to share and link to give links
Hell he couldn’t even buy her a damn tv last year they made 4 million dollars but Granny had to borrow a tv to watch him,
Could have bought her a nice house with plumbing ect instead of donating all the money to TUCC so Wright could get his million dollar house in the gated Community
No, this was told to me by someone who went on the trip with him. I really wish someone could get a interview with Alice Palmer, she heard the same story from a friend who was also traveling at the same time.
Lyn, OBSP,
There were some recent articles about this. This one from the Weekly Standard.
“http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23520981-details/Barack+Obama%27s+broken+promise+to+African+village/article.do”
The Machine is the Driver, they may throw him under the bus.
LOL Profound!
ROFLMFAO!
I’d buy tickets to that!!!!
if obambi is elected the first to go will be the chicago machine unless he needs them for kick others in the butt duty.
fif — I’m taking bets on how long it will take Obama to start WW3.
Yup, he’s on the “dry white martini”.
He’s getting more and more arrogant and snotty. He’s blowing his cork by degrees.
I don’t think I’ll run for office.
uppity — have you noticed how swollen Obama’s eyes are? Either he’s been crying alot or he is on something.
Maybe both this week…
I believe it’s called a tantrum.
Here are the reasons why BO won’t do any town hall debates :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEnu89dxCY
(video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B7cbm68wPU&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-tells-katie-couric-surge-worked.html
(Katie Couric interview — video)
http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/21/obama-i-will-not-get-boxed-into-two-false-choices-on-iraq/
(Terry Moran interview video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEnu89dxCY
(Charles Gibson Interview –video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YEhjZqsD-c
(press conference short video)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271
(transcript of Philadelphia debate)
That is: he sucks…
I saw him do a Press Conference in Florida a couple days ago, without that teleprompter he sounds just terrible, he stops talking so often you can’t follow what he’s TRYING to say, and the stammering doesn’t help, especially all the “uhs”. They only want Obama doing teleprompter speeches. I got a Fundraising letter from the DNC yesterday, on the front they used a BONO Quote, “This is our moment, This is our time”. I sent it back with a couple remarks, no money and NO POSTAGE.
‘I saw him do a Press Conference in Florida a couple days ago, without that teleprompter he sounds just terrible, he stops talking so often you can’t follow what he’s TRYING to say, and the stammering doesn’t help, especially all the “uhs”. ‘
I wish he would do the town halls. But it will be almost as good to see him in the 3 debates doing just the same thing, ‘ahing’ and ‘umming’ his way through every answer. I wonder if he will give his standard primary response, “I agree with Senator Clinton, ah..um…I mean Senator McCain.”
These debates will be precious!
I have received 6 piece of mail from Obama’s campaign in the last week — so where’s that big fundraising operation of his? Perhaps all is not well in $$$$land.
I left the party 2 months ago so don’t ask me why they are still writing to me.
I simply cannot support him.
Michelle Obama sent me one…she had to address me by my first name. How rude.
It was from the DNC for 5 dollars or more. My response;
First of all my name is Mr. ____ to you. I would not grant you a first name basis, due to the lack of respect you’ve displayed towards Senator and President Clinton and whole bunch of other Americans.
According to your Princeton senior thesis this is typical of the “gemmie some “and “scratch his eyes out” racist attitudes you and your husband have.
So you know, I have voted for Democratic candidates most of my voting life. Not this year. Unless Senator Clinton is put in Nomination and given a role call vote, I will be voting for Senator McCain. I will never vote for Senator Barak Obama.
[You and] your husband are immoral and indifferent to the suffering of the people in his state senate district, stating he did not know they were FREEZING in Chicago winter. All the while, profiting from the misery of these poor people in his district and having relations with convicted felon Tony Rezko.
He lied about his relationship with William Ayers a terrorist, he lied about his relationship with Mr. Auchi. He lied about his birth certificate and it very unlikely he is even qualified to run for POTUS under Article II of the US Constitution.
Senator Barak Obama has violated the Logan Act on three occasions.
He took an Oath to defend and protect the US Constitution. He has trample that sacred oath and so much more. PUMA.
Way to go TeakwoodKite !!! Excellent response.
I hope if not she someone close to her gets ticked. Congrats for it.
I thoroughly dislike obama and his chameleon stances. There is nothing firm about this man other than the fact that whatever he says will CHANGE.
Furthermore, his mindless followers make me sick. I have been otherwise occupied for a few days, and did not check one of my websites. Yesterday when I signed on, I found about six different posts containing links to black porn, and bestiality porn.
What kind of sick followers does he have that they would stoop to such trashy tactics. I don’t go to pro-obama sites at all. Why would I?
that’s really disgusting. one of his trolls was posting yesterday and said Obama doesn’t need to be a good role model, just good on policies! They’ve got no morals.
Well, he’s no good on policies either.
And, as we’ve all been witnessing, he’s a flip-flopper to boot.
Ed Schultz, last Monday ( I was away on vacation all last week:)
Guest: “Obama can’t really effectively attack McCain, it would damage his clean-cut image..”
Schultz: “Know who can attack him? HILLARY! So why doesn’t she get off her fanny and wave the pompoms for Obama?
1. More evidence of rank sexism by “Progressive” talk radio.
2. When the hell did Hillary Clinton sign on as Barack Obama’s chief water carrier/apologist/attack dog? Hey Big Eddy, want Hillary to fight Barack’s battles for him? Well FUCK YOU!! Obama wanted the nomination, he can defend HIMSELF, you can NOT make it Hillary’s responsibility to answer McCain.
God I hate this idiot.
Hillary said that she and McCain were qualified to be CIC and barky wasn’t.
I really think it’s time for Hillary to tell them all to F Off.
She has too much class. That’s more Barky’s style.
barky wasn’t.
for clarity’s sake Senator Clinton said “you will have to ask him. (BO)
Good luck with that. I would have better luck asking my 8 ball and getting a consistant answer.
**#&$^#^&want to wring his pimpley pastey fat frog neck&^%$$#
I HATE ED SHITZ
about a year ago I sent him an email chastizing his treatment of HILLARY
he sends me an email saying “defend your candidate” or something as stupid!!!
His HO (yes I said it) wife must be the biggest EEEEDIOT on the planet (next to, NO I won’t even go there today)
I loved Big Ed until he drank the kool aid. Someone should tell Ed that he threw Hillary under the bus next his white grandmother.
my X list of radio shows IN ORDER OF HOW I LOVED EM!
Randi Rhodes
Mike Malloy
Stephanie Miller
Ed Shitz was last because his voice always reminded me of
LUSH RimjobRushLimpbalzLimburgerU know)The biggest disappointment to me is Thomm Hartman. I always considered hom so intelligent, even a Renaissance man. For a while he claimed to make no endorsement and to be open to the process. That was shattered the day he claimed Hillary darkened Obama’s skin color in a TV ad. That accusation was proved false by several individuals and organizations, chief among them Fact Check. I wrote Thomm and asked for an on-air apology. He never mentioned it nor apologized. I never even received a form letter in response. And I have not listened to Thomm nor Air America again ever since.
I thought Hartman was ok but way to calm and peacenikeee for me.
I liked the others because they seemed to get passionate about their topics which I mostly agreed with after the invasion
IT was like watching the body snatchers with the whole MEDIA on TV and RADIO
one after the other
they became assimilated
((((SHUDDER)))) it really is spooky how much they turned into the exact thing they bitched MOST about!!!
it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so SERIOUS
I gave up on Hartmann when he tried to convince me that if all the states were Primaries instead of Caucuses, Obama would be doing even BETTER in the delegate count, because after all, he was winning overwhelmingly in caucus states and if you conflate those popular vote numbers to match the turnout in primaries, gosh, Obama would be winning easily!~
And never mind that Hillary was doing far better in primaries. Nope, totally irrelevant.
That’s when I stopped listening to “ignore the facts to match the narrative” Hartmann.
I call that show “hot air” They blow it out their arse. Why do they repeat their hot air relentlessly?
John -
I love it! It’s still HRC’s fault! Woohoo!!
I thought HRC was tooooo old to be a cheerleader.
Schultz needs to tell Oblowme to let The Beard MEchelle out of her cage if he needs protection.
LOL!
Why not have “good morals” Edwards do the pom pom waving?
It would muss his hair.
Ed Schultz is a sexist pig among other things. Wave her pompoms, indeed.
For the last time:
After the way she was treated by the media, by Obama and by Kerry, Reid, Pelosi, Dean and Brazile, she should turn her back on them all. But no, she has even done unity events for him and raised a heckuva lot more for him than he has bothered to do for her.
She owes him nothing. She owes the DNC nothing.
SDs have one last chance to wake up and nominate the stronger candidate, who actually can win on her own steam, at the Convention.
If they choose to take it, good for them. If they choose to ignore the writing on the wall, they will have no one but themselves to blame.
All the crying, complaining and continued insults from men like Ed Schultz will not alter that fact. Hillary is not Obama’s mother. She should not have to clean up after him.
Obama also basically said some time ago that if he wins the primary, he will be the toughest guy on the block. Let him prove it and step up to the plate.
T-ball is all BO can manage.
Why? Because you suggested she get off her fanny and wave the poms poms for BOBO you moron.
And, of course, idiots like Ed Schultz want — EXPECT — her to do O-Boy’s dirty work. Unbelievable.
“Hillary Only Suspended Her Campaign.”
Obama you are “the typical trade-craft of a political operative possessing an extremely limited political resume.”
You couldn’t even lead a reasonable size Civil Rights March.
He won’t stick his neck out for anything, certainly not for Civil Rights.
I tried to tell my friends around the country (I’m in Chicago) that barry never considered himself AA. He described himself as an american of african descent when he was running against Bobby Rush.
Interesting. That might be the only time he’s ever said anything even remotely resembling honesty. Of course, I’m sure there was an ulterior motive. he never speaks without knowing what it can get for him.
he changes skin tone in his mind in whatever election he is in.
I will feel this sorry for BO: I think he is completely confused and alienated from both blacks and whites, and it must be painful to truly be a citizen of the world, belonging to no one. That said, it gives him freedom to play to everyone’s fears and hopes because he isn’t invested in them. Wonder if he feels any roots or loyalty anywhere–or if he is a complete outsider.
As learned in every previous debate and speech made by Obama, it is strongly suggested that there be people from FactCheck.org there to verify any statements Obama makes, especially on legislation and commitees, considering his inability to tell the truth.
Obama if confronted with facts always shuts up, so will be very quiet debates if Factcheck.org is there to verify, just a ton of ummm, errs and ahhs by Obambi.
Hell. When he was unchallenged he put himself on the Banking Committee. Uppity … why not a funny column on how many committee meetings he’s missed?
Yeah and there was a Democratic “talking head” otherwise known as turkey neck, on PBS singing Obama’s praises for his “faultless” foreign trip. Made me want to vomit.
The word in one NY news source is she won’t be signing the request to be nominated. Too bad if true. She would be the best of all America has to offer. She is the smartest and the most competent person and once again Americans can’t get it right. Well, it has got to be McCain. He is moderate and could like Eisenhower be a Democrat or a Republican. His disagreeable positions are to win over his base or he doesn’t get elected. His agreeable positions are better than Obama’s best positions. And staying home will insure Obama a victory. I intend to vote for the veteran. I want a strong defense and hope for a compassionate economic system from a compassionate Republican
– who knows what it means to defend America.
Hank Roth
(past post) Commander, Jewish War Veterans
http://pnews.org/
Hank Roth:
If the source is the NY Daily News, forget it. Take a look at she, herself commenting on her name being on the ballot (from July 31, 2008 in San Fransisco, CA)
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/01/hillary-on-the-ballot/
The Daily News story was basically debunked already.
I just dont know how any one can vote for Obama any more. One flip was not too bad, but he has been flip floping so much who knows where he stands. Its come to a point that I dont think even his campaign staff is really sure where he stands; much less the Democratic party.
Im not sure if its just TV but his speeches seem to lack any originality. It seems that most of his speeches have only a few words changed here and there. I have also noticed that its becoming more and more obvious that Obama is relying heavily on telepropters. When the telepropters arent there he has a hard time and repeats himself.
ani:
I just finished reading your post in its entirety: it is absolutely excellent!! Thank you.
I liked Mr Salvato’s quotations and will read his full article later one. Could you give me a bit more info. on him? I am not familiar with the New Media Journal.
Thank you again!
Andy,
Thank you for your comments. If you click on the link to the “article” where it is first mentioned above, there is a bio of Mr. Salvato on the right of the page, next to the article in its entirety.
Thank you Ani !