If You Have Any Remaining Doubt That Obama Is Morally Bankrupt…
By Uppity Woman on August 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM in Barack Obama, Flip Flopping, Florida, Michigan, Rules and Bylaws Committee
….this should cure you.
Just as so many of us predicted, now that it can’t hurt him and he has successfully gamed the system and insulted everything this country’s democracy stands for, Leland Gaunt Barack Obama wants every Florida and Michigan delegate counted.
If this isn’t a sign of just what a crooked, morally bankrupt Chicago Thug he is, I don’t know what is. He and Donna and Howard blocked these delegates and these voters from being counted because he knew he would lose. Then he blocked their re-votes because he knew he would lose. No sense of denying that he blocked these re-votes, it’s a matter of record now.
And now………….that it benefits (as in “Cannot Hurt”) The One, he will let his peons be counted. The man is the most despicable excuse for a human being I have seen forced upon an American election in my not so short life. And that includes George W. Bush.
This is just another sign of who and what Barack Obama really is, folks.
While we railed against the GOP in the 2000 and 2004 elections for their dishonesty, these guys look like Disney characters when you consider the slime trail left behind by Barack Obama, Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi et al.
And of Course, Obama’s Hood Ornament, Howard Dean and his complicit band of bullshitters have “decided” that the unbreakable ROOLZ that they used to tank Hillary Clinton can now officially be waived, suddenly “democracy” and fairness are of interest to him.
Today we received a letter from Senator Obama requesting that the Convention’s Credentials Committee grant each delegate from Florida and Michigan a full vote. We deeply appreciate and value Senator Obama’s perspective on this important issue. This matter will be the top priority for the Credentials Committee when we meet on August 24th. As always our goal is to ensure a fair process and a unified Democratic Party so that we can win in November.”
These people shouldn’t even die before they go to hell. They should all just be sucked down into the abyss bodily while still alive. I’m not even saying what’s REALLY on my mind, that’s how odious these people truly are. The Real Barack Obama says it best about this lying, cheating thief.
Nice words. But where was Sen. Obama when Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-Ill.) had her Michigan and Florida delegates stripped from her? Worse than that, where was Sen. Obama’s spirit of “party unity” when he stood by and accepted 4 of Sen. Clinton’s Michigan delegates when his name had, through his own actions, not even been on the ballot?
You know what we PUMAs are going to say to your “unity” schtick Sen. Obama? Just in case you don’t know by now, that you’ve not figured it out, RBO would almost bet the house that all those “bitter” “deadender” Clinton supporters are going to let you twist in the wind. You just kicked your former Democratic opponent and all her supporters square in the teeth.
Not only that. You are a cheater and you gamed the system and cheated in small state-after-small-state caucuses. You are a liar and have told lie after lie—call it a flip flop or adjusting your position as much as you’d like—but a lie is still a lie. You are a thief and you have stolen the Democratic nomination.
You should be ashamed of yourself. It is doubtful that you see anything but that the end justifies the means, as that is how you have climbed the political ladder in your crawl to the top thus far.
Words cannot express what you have done. Let’s just “hope” that you get everything you deserve.
You have no soul, Barack Obama, do you?
The hypocrisy of Obama’s ilk is STUNNING and disgusting. My ire is over flowing and I curse the democratic party for playing dirty politics as much as I cursed Bush’s group.
No wonder America isn’t the America I use to know.
Soul wrenching and heart breaking at the corruption of our democracy.
roseeiter-
I agree howevr its not just Sen Obama’s hypocrisy that concerns me. It is the fact that this action shows us how the DNC (and Credentials Committee) really views the American voters.
By entertaining this request-it shows me that the DNC has little if any concern of how the voting public MIGHT perceive Sen Obama’s request at this [point in time.
Our party must think the American voters are really stupid, ignorant, misinformed or zombies that put the party first before our country (OR…all of the above).
Agree. They also foolishly think that because THEY represent the Democratic Party that we will all walk LOCK-STEP in UNITY for any democrat.
And that we the voters will ignore left hypocrisy.
No.Can.Do.
NOBAMA!
I honestly thought that after the 2000, election it was the Reb’s that were corrupt and did not care about voters. This goes to show all of us, the Dems are no better……..
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Yah, he went down to FL and replaced all the Hillary delegates with his own people so now he wants them counted. This guy is such a crook, it’s not even funny, just a big Chicago crook.
Can you explain more about this? I was thinking it would be the same delegates and they could vote for Hillary, so I didn’t understand the “now it can’t hurt” attitude. But my prediction is the credentials committee will deny his ‘request’ in a planned move to make it look like he tried, but his hands are tied.
America is not the problem, politicians are the problem. And we in America have the ability to change it by not voting for Obama in November. We must vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. This election will truly be historic for many reasons, but perhaps the most important of which will be that the citizens took back control of their country. I believe we can do this, so take heart, and continue to work to defeat the DNC and Obama. And maybe for all time, politicians will “beware the backlash of 2008″!
I agree. I would much rather vote for Hillary, but if I can’t, then I will vote for McCain and endure for four more years so as not to let a powerful few get away with perverting the democratic process.
If I were a Democrat, my heart would break,
For arrogance this man must take the cake,
By fiat, four delegates he’s able to pull,
Now that they’re his, their state votes in full.
Through dubious tactics, secure is the win,
Competition seems to be the only sin,
The thing that’s important, as Joe Stalin notes,
Isn’t the voters but who counts the votes.
Dear John….
I would say “don’t give up the day job” but I think the last couplet is worthy of an attempt to rewrite, to rework all the inverted rhyme that precedes it, if you know what I’m talking about.
No, we don’t. You’re just crazy.
Actually I think Stalin is worthy of the rhyme in this case. Stalin is not lost on the DNC.
UppityWoman, I’m new here. I’m a registered Republican but have found myself going even further to the right than your typical Pub. All of that said, what you have written in the above quote goes far beyond Hillary’s supporters. I know many people who want nothing more than to make sure this person (hussein) and his wife get no where close to the office of President.
I don’t know what I can do to help, but please count me in.
May “karma” befall those who commit injustice!!
believe that….wrongdoing brings pain
“what you sow also shall you reap”-from the Bible
as my Mom said once, you can’t plant tomatoes and expect onions to grow.
geesh, lol..my mom use to say ‘eat your potatoes so you won’t get warts, eat carrots for your eyes etc” as a little kid it was hard enough to eat vegetables let alone try to make the ‘body’ connections. Love my mom (of
This is just more of the same dirty politics of the past. For all his blather about change, this sure looks a lot like old-style Chicago politics. The suckers fell for it but will never admit it. They’re more concerned with saving face than saving our country.
black hussein obama is the most unbelievable person i have ever seen…a real piece of work..God came close to making a mistake with this one..he should have been dropped on his head at birth and put on a shelf to die..
troll alert.
Obama did vote against BAIPA. You can be the hall monitor at Huffy Po.
He disgusts me. Hillary should have gotten the nomination - she had move popular votes but NO NO NO - Barry and friends got it away from her. Now SH Obama wants to appear as if he is fair so - I say too Little too Late. We are not buying it!
Should we buy this?
From The Nation-
“But the delegates will not be voting for Clinton, as this is all about putting the pieces in place for Obama’s nomination by acclamation. (Clinton is telling bitter-ender supporters in behind-closed-doors meetings: “Look, what we want to have happen is for Senator Obama to be nominated by a unified convention of Democrats…)”
Anybody heard from Hillary lately?
Obama gets more disgusting by the hour. What a worthless piece of trash. Either he thinks we’re as naive and stupid as his bot followers or he just doesn’t care what we think. He will lie, cheat and steal his votes which is what he has been doing all along anyway.
I think he does not care what we think. He believes he can get enough of the college age voters, AA voters and the democrat elite to put him over the top. Forget about the middle class and women. I hope he is wrong. Look how he treated the best of the Democratic Party - Bill and Hillary Clinton.
either that or have enough electronic voting machines that can be
hackedengineered to work properly.Hagel has a big stake in Diebolds.
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_27569.shtml
Many links to voting machine info: eg. 2 companies count 80% electronic votes and the vp of one and pres of other are brothers.
Judas Obama.
PUMAs stretching now.
Peanut Gallery Troll.
My questions: Is there no way to stop this ugly, disgusting campaign before the convention? How can the general American public be let in on this horrific manipulation of them before it’s too late?
Our free elections are not free and nobody is screaming this fact to the public except the fine blogs like this one. It has become a critical necessity to get this stuff out before the conventions. How can we do that? It is absolutely horrible and I am getting more spitting mad everyday.
“The Negroes of this country may never be able to rise to power, but they are very well placed indeed to precipitate chaos and ring down the curtain on the American dream.” - Baldwin, The Fire Next Time
They are banking on average voters, low information voters to not know the intricacies of all this and still vote for him. Talk to your neighbors, relatives, friends. What a fucking mess! What a fucking bastard!
They are banking on identity voting. But they’re having problems on getting the PUMAs to march in line.
Don’t forget to place a huge portion of the blame on Obama’s Congressional enablers, State governors, and other prominent Democrats who made his “meteoric” rise? possible: John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Patrick Leahy, Jay Rockefeller, Claire McCaskill, Kathleen Sibelius, Janet Napolitano, Jimmy Carter, etc. Add your favorite.
It just doesn’t make any sense. The man is a slimy sleaze and they are eating him up.
Maybe the Law of Karma is at work on the American voter right now. This country elected George W Bush as President. Now we are faced with the prospect of someone who appears to be even worse in his own way.
I am beginning to think that if McCain just offers more of the same, it will be better the change we are being promised by the Rotten One.
WAKE UP SUPERDELEGATES!!!
I agree 100%. I have email 7 of the people you listed and more to voice my opinion. I thought that Bush/Cheney were the most arrogant President/VP we could have ever have. At least they waited until they got in office. Obama beats them. He isn’t even President yet. Hopefully the American people will wake up and not let that happen.
Don’t forget Dick Durbin. He talked Obama into running this year instead of waiting. D-IL.
Got this yesterday from some sweetie in the “new” Florida Democratic party. Let her know that I had been paying attention and could see through the Bullshit ….
Today is a proud day for all of us who fought so hard to ensure Floridians votes are fully counted.
Just minutes ago, Sen. Barack Obama sent a letter to the DNC credentials committee urging them to restore the full vote of the Michigan and Florida Delegations, proving his commitment to uniting the party and ending the uncertainty surrounding the process.
With Florida’s economy in recession for the first time in 16 years, our state leading the nation in job loss, and we are number two in foreclosures, Floridians in every corner of our state are excited to elect Barack Obama and other Democrats this fall to bring change to Washington and Florida. The people of Florida know Barack Obama and other Democrats will rebuild our economy, create good jobs, and lower gas prices and homeowners insurance rates.
I want to thank Barack Obama, the Florida Congressional Delegation, the Democrats in our Legislature, and voters across Florida for fighting to have our votes count. This is a proud day for all of us.
Sincerely,
Karen Thurman
Congresswoman Karen L. Thurman
Chair, Florida Democratic Party
If you would also like to let Karen know what a fine job you think she is doing for the voters there in Florida, her email address is grassroots@fladems.com
I got the same e-mail and unsubscribed. I told them I was registering as a republican and wanted nothing to do with the democratic party. They accepted my “unsubscribe.”
I sent them this reply:
To Whom it may concern:
The suggestion that the votes have been restored is laughable. It’s like letting voters into the booth after the ballot boxes have been sealed.
Except in dysfunctional abusive relationships, groups members whose views are not chosen only have an obligation to adopt the group’s will, if the process has fair. This is because fairness of process is a manifestation of mutual respect. People who derail fairness think that those they are abusing are not worthy of equal treatment. Obama received delegates from people who voted for Clinton. Further, he received all of the votes for all of the other candidates not on the ballot. Those whose votes for Clinton were stolen and those whose non-directed vote were not for Obama have been designated as less than worthy of equal treatment by the Democratic party. Accordingly, they have no obligations to abide by the party’s decision.
When you chose expedience over fairness, you chose to lose members, voters, and the presidential election in 2008.
Yours,
Steven Mather
thanks, great response.
OMG!!!! When are people going to wake-up from their Kool-Aid induced coma!
I can’t believe people are STILL falling for all of this crap!
HELP!!!!!!
When we start smashing their empty noggins against stationary objects and scream real loud in their ears. “We are mad as Hell, and we’re not going to take it anymore!” Otherwise they just go running behind the skirts of law enforcement and lawyers, whom they loathe also but will use as needed.
Here is what I don’t understand: If Hillary would have had more delegates if the penalties had not been enforced, why doesn’t this reinstate their full numbers and voting capacities? And, what can BO do to stop those Hillary .5 vote delegates from casting their now 1.0 votes for Hillary?
Obviously someone is going to have to dig into the DNC rules (such as they are) to figure this out, but I don’t seen how BO can have it both ways — they didn’t count, and, now that they do count, the excess (?) can only count for him.
And where are all those terrific election-law lawyers and public interest groups — no one is trying to do anything about any of this?
I would suggest reading riverdaughter’s blog. The big crime here is shutting FL and MI when it mattered, that is in the beginning of the primary. If they had resolved this issue then, Clinton would have had a 100+ lead going into Super Tuesday and his caucus wins would have paled in significance with the big swing state wins. She would have had enormous momentum as rightly she should have had (because she was the people’s choice) and that was robbed from her and her supporters by shutting those two states. Even at the RBC meeting in May if they had not given him free delegates and her delegates from MI, the gap would have been that much narrower but they cheated again on May 31. He also would not allow revotes in those states knowing full well that he was going to lose. His surrogates argued for half a vote in May and now he wants full votes for them when it does not harm him. It was their plan all along to cripple her by shutting those two big states from the beginning of the primary. This is bigger than his caucus shenanigans.
Oh believe me pm, we watched very carefully and recorded it all here at NQ.
Hillary’s delegates are being replaced. Someone yesterday, someone in the Obama/FL camp, said 30 of them at this point have been replaced.
the reason this is not in the news is because the media is gutless..they are afraid of his thugs…and this he knows and can get away with what he wants..no problem for him…his dirty boys will take care of the matter..and he will smirk his way to the white house….what a shame…
Many cannot understand why the mainstream media is not reporting the truth about Obama. I read that comment over and over on multiple blogs.
Get a clue! The stakes are earth shattering.
The media is owned and controlled by the very entities fixing to loose their a&%es.
Can you say DERIVATIVES?
“The crisis is, that derivative holders will not be getting the money they were supposed to be getting, because the guys who owe them the money are already bankrupt, because they didn’t get the money they were supposed to get from guys who were bankrupt because the guys who owed them money were bankrupt, and they are all bankrupt because they put up a lousy $3 of their own money, and borrowed another $97 to buy an asset worth $100, and now that asset is worth only $90!”
The amount of money involved? According to Wikipedia, it’s over $500 TRILLION!
To put that $500 trillion number into perspective, the total GWP (Gross World Product) of the entire world is estimated to be about $65 trillion. The total market value of all the publicly traded shares in the world is about $44 trillion. (These numbers are from The CIA World Factbook.) And according to Wikipedia, the total value of all the property in the developed countries in world is about $62 trillion.
In other words, the money in derivatives total about three times the total of all the above values - combined.
I would say that the collapse of the world’s financial system, as we know it, are pretty high stakes. They know they can’t stop the collapse. The bubble is too big. The goal is to have a President in place next year that will allow the transfer of the debt from the private speculators to us, U.S. citizens, via a Federal Reserve bailout, something that is already in place to some degree. (The fact that Pelosi is not raising 6 kinds of hell about this is an indication of what a whore she is for Soros.)
The one thing the media values the most is their claim to be impartial and objective. They need that to continue the subtle mind control they’ve exercised all these years. Their putting that in jeopardy by their blatant biased support of Obama says a great deal about how serious the stakes are. They stand to loose a lot if this backfires.
To achieve the above goal, the financial elite need to install a Corporatist system in the United States. Corporatism is a nice word for Fascism. It was a theory and practice that was not put into practice until Benito Mussolini came to power in Italy as a result of the last world wide crash.
The tactics being used to install Obama are certainly akin in some ways to those used by Hitler and Mussolini in their rise to power.
Are the financial elite trying to accomplish something they failed to do in 1932 because of FDR? That is the essence of the real battle here.
Why would anyone with half a brain want to attend the DNC convention…?
That’s the point, so to speak. They don’t have half a brain. They’re a bunch of drooling sycophants.
This narcissist might think about wearing a flak jacket… You can push people just so far… When the laws and justice won’t be followed; some see “other” alternatives…
I wouldn;t wish harm on anyone, but this fool is walking a VERY thin line…
Well said, even if you didn’t get to say whatyou REALLY wanted.
Obama is smart. YOU have to admit that because he beat the Clinton machine. He Will be the next President even without the Hillary whiners saying they are going to vote for McLOL or me voting Libertarian. The problem is not going to be Obama as much as it is going to be Pelosi and Reid. Any President can only do as much as the Congress allows.
I have a question for all you womens libbers here at NoSense. So McCain goes sexist on Paris and Britney but it’s all about race?? I see respect for women is conditional. Personally I don’t care, I think the ads are funny. Obama should do some with McLame at the nursing home trying to grab ass a nurse or something.
Have a great day.
Your ignorance and impotence, ‘renagade’ doesn’t even warrent a response… Go back to your cave you pathetic wee boy
Oblahblah had the machine behind him. That doesn’t take smarts, just minions wanting to take over the trough.
You are a dullard in real life, huh?
Anchovy.
Obama LOST even after outspending Hillary.
He had to be selected, because he couldn’t get elected.
The only connection I saw with Obama Paris and Britney- was they all got MAJOR attention for NOTHING because of the media and dumbdowned celeb American Idol idiots. In other words the 3 of them are FAMOUS for what? NOTHING.
The people seeing this ad is sexist are trying to deflect the message. And I’m not a McCain or Obama supporter.
shut up shit for brains…your imaginary playmate is waiting for you down by the river.
There was nothing sexist about using Paris and Britney in the McCain ad, you idiot. They’re celebrities.
Since, according to you and the DNC, Obama don’t need PUMA’s, women, and other hillary supporters or even a united Dem party for him to win the Pres, why are you wasting your time here?
Read (if you can) and weep! More repubs like McCain than Dems like princess O 87% vs. 83%; more dems like McCain than repubs like princess O 26% vs. 22%; more unaffiliated like McCain than princess O 61% vs. 47% (ouch.. that hurts).
Hmmm…..Gee Renegade….Winning through FRAUD…LIES AND INTIMIDATION is not smart…..It is what it is….FASCISM.
IF YOUR SOOO PROUD OF YOUR DEAR LEADER….WHY NOT CALL IT WHAT IT IS ?
*** OBAMA IS A FASCIST AND UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ***
Why are you here?
Frightened? Playing the “Nyah, nyah” game, to give yourself some false courage?
And oh, the “clever little barbs!” Women’s libbers at NoSense–chortle, chortle! Did you spend half a day coming up with that strained remark, ya little pudpuller?
Personally, you don’t care?
Yeah, right.
You care. It’s obvious. You’re SCARED SHITLESS, too.
That’s why you’re here. You are ballshrinking scared that your hero is going to crash and burn in an “epic fail,” as the moron set likes to say, and your very presence here is a demonstration of your very real fear.
Be very afraid, little pudpuller. Be VERY afraid.
Renegade,
Why should a woman be a celebrated for having no accomplishments? The same is true for Obama. They are also morally corrupted, especially in Obama’s case.
I really like McCain ads and see more truth than negativity. AGain, if Obama can’t stand the heat, then he should get out of the kitchen.
Silly fool doesn’t know a Machine when he sees it, and will have a good day besides. Amazing, really.
The most awful thing though, is they are doing damn well whatever they please right now and no one seems to be able to stop their outrageous tactics. We all scream and holler but they just laugh and keep right on doing it day after day. Something really big needs to be put in front of the American public’s faces to stop this garbage truck. This asking to count the FL and MI votes is out and out sticking the middle finger up at all of us opposed to Barfhead. All true Dems are being thrown away and it is awful to watch. It is the Chicago machine and they are grinding up the country. I am so frustrated that nothing is getting in their way.
the election is young, i think it will get much worse….Any dem now should be winning big time! With Bushs aprroval rating, the war, gas prices, the ecomny. It says alot that McCain is above Obama in the polls, and the real stuff liek swiftboats has not even started yet…. It will get better!
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Obama had the party machinery that dean created with his 50 state Plan. These people were used to promote Obama, especially in caucuses, which are easy to game.
Interesting to note that you use Obama’s name that the Secret Service gave him. Shows how well he was thought of, or rather how he was thought of. He has spent thousands of tax payers dollars on his security, long before McCain asked for his. In fact McCain was reluctant to take any.
Now why don’t you shuffle off to
ChicagoBuffalo.Thanks for coming by and sharing your message of unity, by being so compassionate. You are just such an inspiration. (snark, as if I had to say it)
To say he is morally bankrupt means he had some moral capital in the first place. Where was that?
Good question. I think amoral is a better term. He is calculating, more resembling a machine than a living being.
Ehemmm…..Tyical of FASCISTS….
MCain et, al. have a great ad up comparing the Cult of Personality graphics of the top 10 despots with Obama…..quite effective I should say
These are interspersed with messiah images that probably send all those reluctant christians straight to their preachers and to voting for McCain.
When the dem party is in shambles after November, it will be time to police up the trash, dispose of it as hazardous waste (in keeping with the green pledge), and restore the party.
Obama is a pigment of the third kind.
ROFLMAO TeakWoodKite!
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Obama is a shithead and he will not win the election. Presently he is in a tie with McCain.
Have A Nice Day! McCain is the real Deal. Obama is a clown and travels in a clown bus and says whatever he thinks will get him a vote and that my friend IS STUPID!
Perhaps obama will trade in his clown bus for a sinking ship!
He must be stopped . He should have been stopped> But I am afraid no mater what he WILL not be stopped. He is winning the electoral college and that is what it is all about. I also know he will cheat and steal to win as he did with Hillary.
The only way he can be stopped, if at all, is by the Republicans. I wish them luck and do not care how they achieve their victory. We cannot have an Obama presidency.No now… not ever.I do however think it will happen and how sad it will be for America
Instead of morning in America…..
It will be mourning in America.
Hillbuz has a great graphic of the electoral college. McCain is anticipated to beat Obama handily. They also place California in Obama’s column but I hink CA will swing GOP this year…..Barry can’t close the deal with Hispanics…imho
Living in CA I believe that is a disticnt possibility workingclass artist.
Living in Texas Hillary could have swung the state back into the tent…( sigh )
Clinton described his role in the 2008 campaign as “a privilege, an honor,” and said, “I loved it,” but he declined to discuss any of his own possible mistakes, describing them as a distraction. “Next year, you and I and everybody else will be freer and have more space to say what we believe to be the truth” about the primaries, he said.
I CAN’t WAIT!!!!!!!!!
Yeah….I always enjoy what the Ol’ Big Dog has to say. He relished being in close contact with the base….I miss him and will not forgive those that betrayed WJC and Sen. Clinton….( sigh ) I wish they would start a new party.
This is totally expected…I hope it means they realize what deep sh!! this party is in! None of the polls show him cruising in, and the military will have a “major” voice in November. They were heavily Republican in the past…hope that’s still true!
Hope they count their votes ( military).as they are absentee votes and have not all have been counted in the past
If obama is restoring fl and mi then hillary must be the vp pick. would he risk putting hillary so much closer to him in delegates if there was a chance she could beat him?
I hope you are wrong, but you may be right.
Maybe someone told him it was the only way he’d win.
This crossed my mind. If Obama is good at one thing, it’s eliminating competition. This is because in the face of real competition, he is a loser and he knows it.
….., he is a loser and he knows it.
I don’t think he knows he’s a loser. I think he feels that the world is against him and therefore, the only way to get what is rightfully his is to beat them at their own game.
Did Obama learn his style of eliminating opponents from the Jeff Giloolly school?