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Wednesday’s Child?

So the other day, John Kerry helped celebrate The One’s birthday (oh wait -dadgummit - that has now been labeled “racist,” too!!!). OK - do over - Monday night, Senator Kerry helped Obamessiah celebrate his 47th birthday. Kerry said,

“I asked Barack Obama what he wanted for his birthday. He said, ‘Indiana, Colorado and Virginia,’ ” said Kerry, referring to three potential swing states Obama hopes to win in the Nov. 4 election.

Wow - that’s all he wants? And what is a possible way, at least in their minds, that this might happen?? Well, if they chose EVAN Bayh as Obama’s running mate, they think that might just get them Indiana. You remember Evan Bayh - the big HILLARY supporter. Yes, there is a big ol’ meeting tonight in Indiana, one SO important that Evan Bayh canceled a BASEBALL game - a game that was supposed to be played last night. Whatever. Anywho - my question is: why would we (PUMAs and those who Just Say No Deal be any more swayed by Obama picking someone who was staunchly in Hillary’s camp? It’s not like we, or should I say, I, will go, “Well, heckfire - if BAYH is okay with Obama, then I guess I should be, too.” Nope. For me, it is more like, “Wow, Evan - what a turncoat!! I cannot believe you are so buddy-buddy with Obama! So much for loyalty! How COULD you??” Or something along those lines.

Anyway, there is supposed to be a big To-Do in Indiana tonight, and there is MUCH speculation that this is going to be the big day for Bayh. Even though His Royal Highness will be taking off for Hawaii in a couple of days for vacation. And Hillary will be stumping for him (do NOT even get me started on that, except to say, ARGH!). So could this be Bayh’s big day? Maybe. And next, would Obama then get his birthday wish of Colorado, Indiana, and Virgina? Well, our good buddy, GeekLove, has prepared a map of what it would look like if Obama does get his wish. With her permission, here it is:

For an added bonus, and comparison, here is the latest AOL Poll Map (also courtesy of GeekLove):

I hasten to add, I am not endorsing McCain. BUT - unless the Super Delegates get it together, it ain’t looking so good for the DNC’s handpicked selection. GeekLove’s map might be more truth than creativity. Just sayin’.

OKAY, people - IF you have NOT done the PLATFORM SURVEY for I OWN MY VOTE, please, please go do it. The survey only takes FIVE minutes, and it includes a handy Comment section - you know you have something to say about the upcoming nomination and election. Now’s your chance!!

And thanks to memeorandum.com for the WSJ article linked above!

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Comment by cackicoo | 2008-08-06 20:33:26

best post ever!!!!!thank you for the laugh of the day…we love and thank you!

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-08-06 23:37:04

The super delegates are so worried about the AA backlash in Denver that they fail to see the backlash if Obama loses in the biggest landslide in history. What we will see is a complete breakdown in race relations as the AA will be embarrassed by such a loss and then blame it on racism.

 
 

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 20:33:53

Amy–great article except you can’t count.

Obama intends to be President of 57 states. From just a quick glance, you’re missing 7 additional states. Where are they? Huh?

:-)

Comment by No for O | 2008-08-06 20:37:15

It is no longer 57 Rchick…he just flopped…it is now??????

Makes you wonder if there aren’t more than 1 Barkys living in that space between those ears.

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 20:59:32

LOL!

Forgive me No for O—are we at 60 states and counting? It is very difficult to keep up with the Chosen One’s ever changing quest for world dominance as I refuse to attend Camp Obama.

Comment by No for O | 2008-08-06 21:39:09

I am with you. I can’t keep up. You can’t make this stuff up as they say.

 
 
 

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2008-08-06 21:20:42

LOL - wait a sec - I thought there were 58 states because he said that he had been to 57 already, besides the one he was in…Oh, no - hold on, then he said that he WASN’T going to Hawaii because “his staff wouldn’t let him,” so that means there are 59 states, right?? I could be wrong - it’s late…

Cackicoo, glad you liked it! :-)

 
 

Comment by Yo | 2008-08-06 20:42:38

I live in Washington state and I hate to say it but it will probably go blue in November. There’s a bunch of hippie, socialist/Marxists up here just like in Oregon. So I don’t, in all honesty think those states will go with McCain UNLESS all those bitter, hard working, gun totin’ folks (you know I’m just kidding, right?) on the east side of the mountains of Washington and Oregon (mostly Republican) go for McCain. Seattle is in King County which I think is one of the biggest Democratic voting blocs in Washington state. Idiots!

So what other states do you think will probably be blue in November?

PUMA
Hillary or McCain ‘08

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 20:57:25

We used to live in Silverdale, WA (loved the Kitsap Peninsula). Seattle and Tacoma will most certainly go for Obama.

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-08-06 21:19:03

Then there is Eastern Washington — and that part of the state WON’T vote for Obama.

It could be a toss up — the GOP will be busy linking Obama to all the Dem candidates.

If the choice is Obama or McCain — I’ll have to vote against Obama.

Right now there are no political signs for the Prez race (except for a couple of Obamabots) — I’ve never seen such a non show of political signs. The biggest race seems to be for JUDGES?????????????

Silverdale and the Kitsap peninsula have a high concentration of military (Navy) — both active duty and retired. This population won’t be voting Obama — McCain will be the choice.

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 21:31:09

Indeed. We were stationed on the Sub-base at Bangor.

I would imagine Whidbey Island would also go McCain, but I’m not sure anymore as I don’t live out there.

Comment by No for O | 2008-08-06 21:41:20

Sorry but I cannot see the island go for BoBo. Unless they are importing the koolaid by the freighter load.

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 21:56:04

My problem is that I can’t see how anyone in their right mind or otherwise would vote for Obama.

 
 
 
 

Comment by yttik | 2008-08-06 23:09:53

I see a backlash coming to Washington state. I think the governor’s re-election is going to play a role. If you look at our primaries, Obama and Hillary were very close. There’s a lot of discontent here, Democrats unhappy with the governor and Democrats unhappy with the DNC treatment of Hillary. I think it’s possible we’re not going to be as strongly blue as usual.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-08-06 23:16:53

You are correct
I have carried the water for the democrats in this state for too long.
I have never been this disgusted!
I’m meeting with Dino Rossi this weekend at a parade.
I sure have some great stories to tell!!
Since I’m a McCain democrat!!

Vote out everyone that was in on the fix.
That means you Gregoire!
and you Nickels when the time comes!

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-08-07 02:52:57

Well I for one will NOT be voting for the current Governor. I’m not sure who I’ll vote for in the primary — but not her — and not her in the General Election in November.

 
 
 

Comment by insix | 2008-08-06 20:43:40

I have been checking that AOL Straw Poll for 2 months now…it consistently has the entire map red! MAC 08!

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-06 22:34:50

yea but that map had HILLARY consistently winning every state too and look how that has turned out thus far?

I don’t believe MOST polls this far out anyway. But I’m hopeful it won’t even get that far and HILLARY will be nominee and we’ll get a MUCH NEEDED victory in NOV.

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-06 23:12:30

I think Obama will take DC…

 
 

Comment by Voltaic | 2008-08-06 20:44:15

I made this poem while I was stitting in the mountns today looking at the sun seting ont the hills.
==================
I AM PUMA hear me roor!
Barack Obamish git out the door!
I love John McCain he just rocks!
He wears shoes and snazzy socks!
The GOP is where it’ at!
it is phat!
Vote Repubican and you will see -
how to by happy as a bee!
Barack Obama he’s not good!
He’s a liar and a thief!
He stole my coffee and my teeth.
I hate The Democrats!
They are Rats!
I now love the Repubs they are dub!
I AM PUMA HERE ME ROOR!!
Barack is like Satan -
he is the Devil!
Puma ! PUma ! PUma! NOW!
ROOR ROOR ROOOOOOORRRR!
I roor now and I roor there.
Obama is devil GO JOHN MCCAIN!
PUMA NOW ROOOOOOOOOOOORRRRR.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-06 23:08:56

Don’t quit that day job, now.

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-08-06 23:49:32

I can’t stop laughing at your comment.

 
 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-08-06 20:44:26

I like the maps. Reminds me that the 18.5M Clinton voters is far more than the number of black voters in the counter–even if they all vote and even if they all vote for the Dear Leader. Even allowing so folks sitting out and all, I think it is clear that Clinton voters cancel out the black vote. College students are notoriously poor voters, another hit against Obama. McCain’s going to get older voters who, on the other hand, do vote well. In the middle, white and hispanic male voters and a lot of military veterans and folks from small towns who like religion and guns. Despite the media hype, I remain confident that should the Dems insist on picking Obama he’ll be another spectacular loser in the fall like too many others the Democrats pick to lose with.

 

Comment by fred | 2008-08-06 20:47:49

Dems call on Edwards to address affair rumors

By Mark Johnson, Staff WriterComment on this story
RALEIGH — Former Sen. John Edwards has a deadline to save his spot on the national stage.

With just two weeks before their national convention, a number of Democrats are saying Edwards needs to publicly address anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories that have claimed he had an affair with a campaign worker and fathered her baby.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-06 20:49:33

People in hell want ice water, too, Barack. You will get the west coast and the northeast, same as always.

Comment by Voltaic | 2008-08-06 20:54:14

BARACK IS THE DEVIL !
he will steal the votes if he has too, just like the devil does!
PUMA NOW ROORCUB!

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-06 23:11:21

Obama had best not count on the northeast without some hard work.

I’m serious. He’s got some worrying to do. I don’t think McCain is buying ads in the region for his health. I think he sees a real opening.

 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-08-06 20:53:50

I never liked the color red on an electoral map until now.
Let’s paint this country Red!

Comment by Voltaic | 2008-08-06 20:57:46

GO JOHN MCCAIN!
REPUBLICANS RULE!
I AM PUMA HEER ME ROOR!
BARACK OHBAMBI GIT OUT THE DOOR!

PUMA will rule the world!
PUMA”S OWN THIS ELECTION.

McCan is up by ten in New York, Up by nine in NJ, and up by 12 in Illinois according to latest Ipsos Poll!
GO GOP !!
PUUUUUUMA~

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 21:04:12

Hell has frozen over. What’s a girl to do?

NY, NJ, and Illinois and McCain is leading?

The election is still 3 months away and a lot can happen. I know the Republican leadership and they can screw up anything with that amount of time. God help us all.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-06 22:50:11

ok since NO ONE ELSE will say it

ahem

voltaic it’s ROAR

R O A R

AND YOU SIR ARE A TROLL!

or hitting the hootch

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-06 23:15:03

Why not both? A drunken troll.

A stupid drunken troll, at that! One of those children, left behind.

I told the assclown not to quit his day job.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-06 23:34:12

LOL I just saw that!!!

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by cathnealon | 2008-08-06 20:54:03

He’ll be lucky if he gets his home state.

Comment by Chicago Joe | 2008-08-06 22:15:11

With Hillary out, I’d love to turn Illinois nice and red.

 
 

Comment by Rich,NY | 2008-08-06 20:59:14

Barack is going to Hawaii to get has BC straighten out

Comment by PS | 2008-08-06 22:32:06

Not without an entourage of press..hopefully they’ll report his comings and goings.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-08-06 22:52:26

Why? There should be plenty of professional forgers on the mainland.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-08-07 02:56:23

I expect that the GOP already has an inside person — and that they have a copy of Obama’s real birth certificate.

 
 
 

Comment by Voltaic | 2008-08-06 21:00:48

Why do PUMA”S RULE?
Because we’re the best, the smartest, and the most educated.
Barack voters are Devil Voters - they vote for the devil.
As a PROUD PUMA and a sixty three year old women, I SAY PUMA NOW! PUMA NOW!
Puma PUma he’s out man, if PUma can’t do it no one can.
IAM ROORING!

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-06 22:51:44

stop it - chun je adashi

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-06 23:27:20

Wow, your crew really are terrified.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel, though, sending you out to do OBOT work.

Didn’t you read the Prime Directive of TrOllbots put out over at Big Dumb Orange? Apparently not.

If they’re paying you minimum, you’re getting over and they’re getting ripped off. But then, that campaign is pretty wasteful with the donors’ cash, I’ve noticed. You’re only the latest example.

 
 

Comment by simanov | 2008-08-06 21:04:40

People in Gaza are starting to ask for their money back.

Comment by Lou | 2008-08-06 23:37:43

Really? you kidding?

 
 

Comment by OldCoastie | 2008-08-06 21:12:34

You don’t suppose Bayh changed his mind at the very last minute and that’s why the announcement didn’t take place?

 

Comment by Alex01 | 2008-08-06 21:16:16

When the going gets tough, Barack “What, Me Worry?” Obama goes on vacation. Actually, it’s a working vacation - he has some birth certificate disappearing to do.

Comment by KJMontana | 2008-08-07 01:59:44

“When the going gets tough, Barack “What, Me Worry?” Obama goes on vacation.”

Isn’t that the same thing Bush does?

Comment by Alex01 | 2008-08-07 09:06:40

The very same. Bush just looks a little more like Alfred E. Neuman :-J.

 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2008-08-06 21:23:01

Oh, Reverend Amy, I loved this — but truthfully, by the time Obarky and the DNC are done shooting themselves in the foot — he’ll be lucky to carry Illinois.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2008-08-06 22:06:53

I’m with you on that, Ani, and thanks! Obama does seem to be losing support more and more each day. I guess he isn’t so shiny and new anymore, and people are seeing through the veneer. Hope so, anyway!

You, too, TeakwoddKite!

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-06 23:35:37

Nobama is like a new toy kids get for Christmas, it was new, did everything cool and was exspensive but turned out to be nothing but cheap junk that wasn’t anything like the commercials….

 
 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-06 21:25:14

What? IGIT the “inflated one” only wants 3 states?

Great read Rev. Amy.

 

Comment by simanov | 2008-08-06 21:25:40

(Obama’s former employer)ACORN hires Child Rapist, Thieves and Drug Dealers for Voter Registration

KRQE Channel 13 in Albuquerque aired this disturbing report about criminals, including child rapists, persons convicted of fraud and forgery, and drug dealers, being hired by ACORN to solicit voter registrations

http://www.electionjournal.org/2008/08/06/acorn-hires-child-rapist-thieves-and-drug-dealers-for-voter-registration/#comment-357

Comment by No for O | 2008-08-06 21:43:39

Same thing they did in Texas. Oh, let me correct myself by saying that they recruited people of questionable immigration status as well.

 
 

Comment by candymarl | 2008-08-06 21:26:24

I just voted for this week. The number has changed.

It’s now McCain 70% - Obama 30%.

 

Comment by simanov | 2008-08-06 21:43:12

The website, http://www.formerobamasupporters.com, launched on July 12th, claims they’ve received over 900,000 visitors and now has over 1,400 members.

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 21:49:29

http://formerobamasupporters.com/

I tried going to your link, but it didn’t work. I figure it was probably the (,) after the website. Thanks for sharing the website. Off to look now.

 
 

Comment by No for O | 2008-08-06 21:48:36

Interesting. Looks like they made it through KoolAid rehab. Thanks for the link.

 

Comment by KsGirl | 2008-08-06 21:51:24

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy;

I’ve been lurking on this website for several months now and I love it because I’ve read some real good articles (yours included) about BO’s shenanigans.

I donated to Hillary’s campaign and even sent $25 more dollars today to help retire her debt.

I’m a moderate Republican and would vote for Hillary top of the ticket without BO in a nanosec.

If BO gets the nod he thinks he already has in Denver, will you or any of the commentator’s on this website endorse McCain?

Just curious….

Comment by RepublicanChick | 2008-08-06 21:58:23

Hi KsGirl:

I would imagine you’d find more people voting against Obama than for McCain and that is especially true in our party.

Comment by AliasJohnDoe | 2008-08-06 22:13:02

I am voting against Obama - That means I’m voting for McCain. It doesn’t mean I agree with McCain or his policies, it means I’m making sure my vote counts against Obama to make sure he never becomes President. It will be the first time in my life I’ve ever voted for a Republican.

Comment by AliasJohnDoe | 2008-08-06 22:35:28

Also adding, I’m voting against any Democrat in my state who supports Obama. It’s time to clean house and get these traitors OUT. It’s time to take the Democratic Party BACK and prepare for Hillary in 2012!!!

 
 
 

Comment by Vonay | 2008-08-06 22:03:40

I am one democrat who will happily vote for McCain just to keep Obambi out of the whitehouse.

 

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2008-08-06 22:19:39

Welcome KS Girl! Glad to have you!

No Quarter does not endorse McCain. That being said, No Quarter is not afraid to have positive comments made about him here (at least from what I have seen). I do not speak for No Quarter, though - I took that line directly from soneone who DOESL SusanUnPC in a previous post (you can do a search on it above and see where they stand).

There is still a Convention for the Dem. nominee at the end of this month, so until that time, I assume No Quarter will maintain that stance.

And no, I won’t endorse McCain, either. I ave respect for him - something I cannot say abt Obama, but I do not plan to vote for him. A lot depends on if my state allows write-ins or not, and if it will COUNT, as opposed to being registered as a “No Vote.”

Thanks for asking!

 

Comment by BJinChicago | 2008-08-07 00:18:41

NO obama; Hillary or McCain 2008.

 
 

Comment by AJ | 2008-08-06 22:02:42

I’m from Indiana and I will be sick if Bayh accepts the V.P. slot — he was so supportive of Hillary from the very start. Can’t believe he would turn his back on her and go with BO!

 

Comment by AJ | 2008-08-06 22:03:20

p.s. Indiana will stay RED!!!

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-06 22:38:45

yea considering STRICKLAND (and others) were MAN enough to say “NO THANKS” from the GET GO!!

 
 

Comment by Shtuey | 2008-08-06 22:07:00

Oh yes, Pampers’ fiendish plot to woo us with a Hillary surrogate will surely gain our votes. Let’s see how that’s worked out so far.

Ed Rendell? Guess he thought getting the people was more important that getting the checks.

Ted Strickland? If nominated he would not accept. If elected he would not serve. If ordered by his royal majestic narcissistic splendoliciousness he would renounce his citizenship and move to the Pitcairn Islands.

And what about Hillary? I’m pretty confident she was asked back in June. After about 10 minutes of cackling I imagine she said something to the effect of, “Bite me.”

Well if Bayh accepts VP and Hillary gets the nomination I’m sure he’ll be able to keep his job if he asks really nicely while singing “I’m a Little Teapot.”

And I wouldn’t get to bent out of shape about HRC “campaigning” for Pampers while he’s in Hawaii. It will most likely end up being an HRC pep rally like Unity NH. He’ll be keeping his bubble baby powder fresh and Axelrod will tell him everything went great.

On voting for McCain; anyone who puts Charlton Heston in an ad cracking on Pampers scores major points with me. Though I would have preferred that he used the moment when Joshua tells Moses, “Stand up on the rock so the people can see you and have hope!” But I won’t split hairs with Johnny over that. He doesn’t have much hair to spare. And I remember fondly that bit he did on SNL where he played the teacher who had the kids make bongs in shop class.

Speaking of “The Ten Commandments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kqqMXWEFs&feature=related

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2008-08-06 22:10:37

ROTFLMAO - that is an AWESOME comment! Thank you!!

 

Comment by Ani | 2008-08-06 22:15:26

Shtuey — you rock. I needed a laugh today.

You are spot on about Hillary’s upcoming voter registration rallies — they are just a way for people to be reminded of how wonderful she truly is.

 

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 00:10:47

On voting for McCain; anyone who puts Charlton Heston in an ad cracking on Pampers scores major points with me.

The McCain people are just asking for trouble if they keep running negative attack ad after negative attack ad. All the Obama people would need to do to blow John out of the water would be to televise an ad featuring the high points of John McCain’s speech at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. In a couple of places the guy comes across like Mr. Magoo Gone Wild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK-LEyyf7d4

Then there’s John’s nuclear power promotional visit to the Fermi 2 reactor plant. That should at least provide material for a Mad TV comedy skit. The only worse places John might have picked to deliver that message would probably have been Three Mile Island or Chernobyl. (What happened at the Fermi 1 fast-breeder reactor in October, 1966, is played down by the industry as a minor incident. There was a partial core melt-down. We could have lost Detroit.)

So, where’s John McCain’s judgement?

Fortunately for McCain the Obama campaign has so far shown commendable retraint. But if the McCain people keep pushing the negative portrayals of Obama rather than sticking to factual criticism, they’re going to regret it. The Obama people would employ better timing. Like about two weeks before the election.

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-08-07 00:16:27

Oh don’t worry, Barky is running his own negative campaign against himself, all McCain has to do is point out the obvious.

 

Comment by David A., Is That You Trolling? | 2008-08-07 00:27:50

ziggy,
There is nothing commendable about Obama.

In June, after signaling opposition to nuclear power, he told Democratic governors he’s open to expanding it.

Obama’s biggest single source of corporate associated money, in excess of $200,000, comes from executives and employees at Exelon Corp., the nation’s largest nuclear power provider, and its subsidiary, Commonwealth Edison, an Illinois utility.

Obama is a liar and low-life.

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 01:05:20

Uh huh.

Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain during June 2008–three-quarters of which came right after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the offshore drilling ban. Compare the June total with $116,000 from the industry in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.
There’s no cause-and-effect relationship there, of course. McCain’s change of position and the big chunk of change his campaign pocketed immediately thereafter was pure coincidence.

Just as McCain’s 2003 favors to the telecom industry and their $200,000 contribution to his “Reform Institute” were purely coincidental.

Comment by WildChild | 2008-08-07 01:09:45

This is what you BOBOweenies are using to try to counter BOBO voting for Cheney’s energy plan?

Sweet!

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 01:36:04

It doesn’t particularly bother me that Obama voted for the Energy Policy Act of 2005. He voted the same as more than half of all democrats in the Senate.

The collective reduction in national consumption of energy (gas and electricity) is significant for home heating. The Act provided tangible financial incentives (tax credits) for average homeowners to make environmentally positive changes to their homes. It made improvements to home energy use more affordable for walls, doors, windows, roofs, water heaters, etc. Consumer spending, and hence the national economy, was abetted. Industry grew for manufacture of these environmentally positive improvements. These positive improvements have been near and long-term in effect.

The collective reduction in national consumption of oil is significant for automotive vehicles. The Act provided tangible financial incentives (tax credits) for operators of hybrid vehicles. It helped fuel competition among auto makers to meet rising demands for fuel-efficient vehicles. Consumer spending, and hence the national economy, was abetted. Dependence on imported oil was reduced. The national trade deficit was improved. Industry grew for manufacture of these environmentally positive improvements. These positive improvements have been near and long-term in effect.

Lots of people might have voted differently, had they seen 2008 fuel prices coming or the extent of Big Oil profits.

Just like lots of people would have voted differently on Bush’s crack-brained invasion of Iraq, had they known his administration was lying and had they seen the future.

Comment by WildChild | 2008-08-07 01:47:28

I can’t quite see how BOBO going along with the crowd would somehow comfort you into believing he is some sort of change we can believe in. Caving to the Bush administration is certainly part of the politics of the past that BOBO talks the talk about on the campaign trail. Yet instead of actually showing us this hypothetical change, BOBO votes for Cheney’s energy plan, Bush’s telecom immunity pacakage and my guess is since BOBO said that his position on Iraq wasn’t all that different from Bush’s back before the war, BOBO would have also voted for authorization had he been in the Senate. We hear the talk but at vote time BOBO doesn’t show us the walk. It’s like the Pastor wright told us, BOBO says what he has to say. LOL and you BOBOweeines eat it up like it’s three nutritious squares a day. But there was never anything on your plate. It is as empty as are your minds and your souls.

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 02:52:38

I suggest that you make a vote by vote comparison between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama throughout the entire time that Barack Obama has been in the U.S. Senate. Those couple of bills you love to fixate on–FISA and the 2005 Energy Policy Act–are rare exceptions to voting records that are otherwise identical. And in the case of those rare exceptions, over one-half of all democratic senators voted the same as Barack Obama.

Then check John McCain’s votes for the same time frame. (When he even bothered to vote, of course. John McCain tops the list for most votes missed of any prominent senator, either democrat or republican. He’s voted less than half the time throughout the 110th Congress. Assertions that Obama has missed over half of his votes are bogus. That distortion is based only upon a narrow two-month period that coincided with a period of heavy campaigning.) Those occasions when McCain voted the same as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are rare. McCain voted in line with Bush policy 95% of the time.

Here’s a link to the U.S. Congress database of all votes from the 110th Congress on back. See for yourself, if you don’t believe me.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/

Empty minds and souls…
Unbelieveable.

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 03:00:33

By the way, that 2008 Electoral Vote map shown up above is a total figment of someone’s imagination. Republican sympathizers really should keep away from psychoactive mushrooms. They’re simply not wired to handle their mind-altering effects.

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-07 06:01:29

Take it up with the people at AOL. That is where it comes from. Don’t like it? Vote. Or do you live in a caucus state and think you can stand there and merely SCREAM at the map?

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Comment by WIldChild | 2008-08-07 13:00:44

I’m aware of their voting record. I used it to support many arguments when dealing with the rabid BOBOweenie back during the primaries. All the anger and the rage at Hillary made no sense to me. Their voting records were practicality identical. But that didn’t matter to you then. So it shouldn’t matter t you now. What did matter was the one vote we couldn’t compare and that was her vote on the use of force resolution. He wasn’t there to make that vote. On a side note during that time I never used the argument like you have that “hey everyone else was jumping off the bridge so it was OK that Hillary did”. That’s the argument common children or adults with an empty mind or empty soul use. The behavior of the herd never justifies an individual behavior. But enough on that. Hillary was tarred for one vote. She was labeled a neo-con because of one vote. She was hated as a republican bu you people because of one vote. It wasn’t new. It started years before the primary started. All that rage over one vote. Now suddenly you want to say she and BOBO are almost alike i ntheir voting records. But are they? BOBO said he opposed telecom immunity, but he voted for it. BOBO is now talking like he opposed Cheney’s energy BIll…. but he voted for it. BOBO says he opposes the war but back before the war he said his position on Iraq wasn’t all that different from Bush’s. Form what BOBO has been doing lately, I can’t see how he would have voted against the use of force resolution. BOBO travels with the herd. That’s why he a Hillary are not the same. Hillary defended her vote on the use of force resolution and has yet to back down form it. She didn’t grovel and beg for forgiveness. She wouldn’t apologize. That vote cost her the nomination. Hillary will actually stand for something even when it hurts her, even when it costs her. We’ve yet to see BOBO do anything even close to that, and I don’t think we ever will. So no, they are not alike. At their individual core, they’re not even close.

 

Comment by elise | 2008-08-07 13:13:10

Ziggy it’s hard to make a valid comparison since he missed 40% of the votes and most of those were the important issues.

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 17:30:24

What were those important votes Obama missed?

I know McCain strongly opposed the 2008 GI Bill, then failed to show up to vote on it.

I know McCain also skipped the vote on FISA altogether.

Which big votes did Obama skip?

Obama seems to have voted 151 times more than John McCain. That quite a few votes, isn’t it?

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Comment by David A., Is that You Trolling? | 2008-08-07 17:43:30

piggy,
Obama missed the most votes of any Dem presidential hopeful in the Senate in the last period of 2007, including a vote on an Iran resolution he blasted Hillary for supporting.

He missed 80% of all votes from September 2007 to November 2007.

Obama missed a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. He criticized Hillary for voting for it.

He missed voting on a Democratic priority, the expansion of the federally funded State Children’s Health Insurance Program and a resolution condemning MoveOn.org for running an ad in the NYT attacking Gen. Petraeus.

Take this back to your crew and rewrite the script.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by elise | 2008-08-07 03:43:17

Well, that just takes my breath away ziggy. You have just given me so much, I don’t know where to begin. Did you create this apology for Obama or copy it from another source? Can we begin with the fact it doesn’t bother you? No, that speaks for itself and there is so much more. Average homeowners can’t afford to pay for the home improvements you are talking about. Do you own your own home, have a job making less than $100k a year? Did you know this bill was written by Cheney and energy lobbyists behind closed doors and Cheney has refused to make public even the names of those at the meetings? Did you know it included $6 bil. in subsidies to Exxon Mobile and other oil companies and $9 bil to the nuclear power industries ( I could write much more here about the connection Obama has there). Are you aware how many times he has criticized this very bill during the primaries?

Washington Post: 2005 Energy Bill was ‘a piñata of perks for energy industries’: The Washington Post said, “…The energy bill, touted as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil or moderate gasoline prices, has been turned into a piñata of perks for energy industries.” [Washington Post, 7/30/05]

“Speaking early this month at a church in Selma, Ala., Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said: “I’m in Washington. I see what’s going on. I see those powers and principalities have snuck back in there, that they’re writing the energy bills and the drug laws.”

“Consumer spending, and hence the national economy, was abetted.” WTH are you talking about? The average consumer is looking for a way to put gas in their car to get to work every day. In what way has this reduced dependence on foreign oil? And tax breaks for hybrid cars? Yeah, if you can afford to buy a new car, the US trade deficit hit a record high of 817.3 billion dollars in 2006, up from 767.5 billion dollars in 2005. You clearly do not know what you are talking about and haven’t bothered to research. Oh, and don’t try to confuse this issue with the Iraq vote. This was done in secret and it remains a secret. There is no doubt in my mind Obama would have voted for the resolution on Iraq. He would not have done anything as politically risky as vote against it. If we have learned nothing else about him over the last few months, that much is clear. You are a cretin. It’s always better to keep your mouth shut when you are uninformed.

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 13:28:43

I have an empty mind and soul. And now I’m an uninformed cretin. Perhaps I should pack it in, since the thoughtful points against me are really beginning to pile up.

I don’t particularly like the 2005 Energy Bill. I’ve mentioned that in here several times, in other threads. I’ve also posted references to the bill that detail a long list of criticisms. I’m aware there was plenty to be critical about. Yes, Obama cast a vote that on the whole I didn’t like. Along with over half of his fellow democrats. And damn, he cast another vote I don’t like. FISA, of course. Along with a lot of other democrats.

You seem baffled and angry that I’m not disillusioned. What you’re missing is that I didn’t have illusions in the first place. I don’t expect any politician to be a perfect expression of my opinions 100% of the time. There is no such politician.

What I’m doing is comparing the available candidates, vote by vote, point by point, policy by policy. When I’ve done that–Surprise! John McCain is a republican! 95% of the time he’s voted with Bush policy, and on the things most important to me he’s still pushing Bush policy. And Obama is a democrat; the great majority of the time votes like one. His voting record is almost identical to Hillary Clinton’s. He promotes the same policies as Hillary Clinton. Apparently I’m not going to have the opportunity to actually vote for Hillary Clinton, so…

If you get entirely away from policy and votes and compare people, I suppose I can’t argue with those who just don’t like Barack Obama. He punches the wrong buttons with a lot of voters. A lot of voters seem to have a great many buttons to be punched.

I don’t play that game. For one thing, I don’t have a strong personal dislike for John McCain. I just dislike his votes and his policy. I don’t think his economic plan makes any sense. I believe he’s locked into a paradigm that’s time has passed. I worry about his quickness and the reliability of his judgement, given the extreme stresses of the presidency, his age, and his mental status.

My idol doesn’t have feet of clay. I never had an idol in the first place. There’s just one guy who comes out ahead of the other when I make a point-by-point comparison.

Of course, it doesn’t hurt that the guy has an ability to fire up and motivate. There’s an undeniable Obama phenomenon among youthful supporters. With the young, he punches a different set of buttons. Why should I object to that? Young people