Comments on: Stating the Obvious http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:08:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Elle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-537712 Elle Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:32:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-537712 Yep, and that fault line started at the feet of Donna Brazile. Yep, and that fault line started at the feet of Donna Brazile.

]]> By: Northwest rain http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536802 Northwest rain Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:51:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536802 Years ago when Gregoire worked in the Attorney Generals office she personally argued against equal pay for equal work -- typically at the time male workers were paid much more then female workers for the same or equivalent jobs. 4 years ago I held my nose and voted for her -- knowing that she is one of women's worst enemy. This year she endorsed Obama very early -- and so fine I will NOT vote for her EVER again. She is a small woman in all ways. AND she is responsible in part for the Obamacrat party in WA. The democrat party is dead in WA. I'll vote for one of the alternative candidates -- Rossi is still disgusting to me. There is no longer a "rule" that I must vote straight party line -- I've returned to Independent. PUMA Years ago when Gregoire worked in the Attorney Generals office she personally argued against equal pay for equal work — typically at the time male workers were paid much more then female workers for the same or equivalent jobs.

4 years ago I held my nose and voted for her — knowing that she is one of women’s worst enemy.

This year she endorsed Obama very early — and so fine I will NOT vote for her EVER again. She is a small woman in all ways.

AND she is responsible in part for the Obamacrat party in WA. The democrat party is dead in WA.

I’ll vote for one of the alternative candidates — Rossi is still disgusting to me.

There is no longer a “rule” that I must vote straight party line — I’ve returned to Independent.

PUMA

]]> By: andySF http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536726 andySF Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:28:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536726 As long as Clinton on the top of the ticket, I have no problem. I have a problem with voting for a race baiting Dem for president this year. That should never be rewarded. If he learn and come back in 8 years, then I would really consider him. I support Clinton from the start, but would've vote for him if he win the thing fair and square. But painting Bill a racist ain't it. I though he was very smart and lack experience at the beginning, but stealing four lousy delegate change my view. A complete flip on many major issue in two short months is not the smartest thing. But if he's smart enough to wait to gain more experience as he said in 2006, then there is hope for him. I am independent who have never voted for a Republican. The worst I did against a Dem was not voting. But I am going to vote for Mccain if he's the top ticket. I am kind of happy that Rep elected one of two people I can vote for(Powell being the other). But if this country is foolish enough to bush for Obama this year, then at least I won't be part of it. Just as I voted against Bush twice. My conscience will be clear. As long as Clinton on the top of the ticket, I have no problem.

I have a problem with voting for a race baiting Dem for president this year. That should never be rewarded. If he learn and come back in 8 years, then I would really consider him.

I support Clinton from the start, but would’ve vote for him if he win the thing fair and square. But painting Bill a racist ain’t it. I though he was very smart and lack experience at the beginning, but stealing four lousy delegate change my view. A complete flip on many major issue in two short months is not the smartest thing. But if he’s smart enough to wait to gain more experience as he said in 2006, then there is hope for him.

I am independent who have never voted for a Republican. The worst I did against a Dem was not voting. But I am going to vote for Mccain if he’s the top ticket. I am kind of happy that Rep elected one of two people I can vote for(Powell being the other).

But if this country is foolish enough to bush for Obama this year, then at least I won’t be part of it. Just as I voted against Bush twice. My conscience will be clear.

]]> By: andySF http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536642 andySF Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:54:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536642 Very well put. Very well put.

]]> By: ziggy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536627 ziggy Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:49:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536627 <blockquote>Country before political parties!</blockquote> I'm afaid I become suspicious when that message translates into "Vote republican".

Country before political parties!

I’m afaid I become suspicious when that message translates into “Vote republican”.

]]> By: ziggy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536610 ziggy Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:44:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536610 The far right is simply "clarifying" a view of the democratic situation that serves their own interests. Whether this is actually what happened or not is <em>totally immaterial</em> to them. What serves their end is that people <em>see</em> things that way. <strong>Their explanation is part of the manipulation itself.</strong> It's all about getting the democratic party to self-destruct. The machiavellian mechanations of Karl Rove are behind the systematic promotion of ideas like this. Karl has us all figured out. He identified the fault line, and worked out how to attack it. <strong>You can bet money on it</strong>. The far right is simply “clarifying” a view of the democratic situation that serves their own interests. Whether this is actually what happened or not is totally immaterial to them. What serves their end is that people see things that way. Their explanation is part of the manipulation itself. It’s all about getting the democratic party to self-destruct.

The machiavellian mechanations of Karl Rove are behind the systematic promotion of ideas like this. Karl has us all figured out. He identified the fault line, and worked out how to attack it. You can bet money on it.

]]> By: David A., Is That You Trolling? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536498 David A., Is That You Trolling? Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:09:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536498 Is Soros running for President or other political office? Is Soros running for President or other political office?

]]> By: DAB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536405 DAB Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:46:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536405 Hanson's article was in our local newspaper today and I thought it was spot on. I always skipped his articles in the past, but am unexpectedly finding that I agree with many conservative columnists in their assessment of BO. I guess the lesson is to find truth wherever it appears. Hanson’s article was in our local newspaper today and I thought it was spot on. I always skipped his articles in the past, but am unexpectedly finding that I agree with many conservative columnists in their assessment of BO. I guess the lesson is to find truth wherever it appears.

]]> By: John Allen http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536373 John Allen Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:37:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536373 We can still demand that we get to vote for Senator Clinton at the convention. We can still demand that we get to vote for Senator Clinton at the convention.

]]> By: Clinton Fan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536332 Clinton Fan Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:19:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/07/stating-the-obvious/#comment-536332 Yes indeed. The "radical left" is not tolerant at all, they're lockstep partisans. They're every bit as obnoxious as the radical right, with their "musts" and absolutes. It's all bullshit on the fringes. It's also a helluva lotta heat, and damned little light. The real liberals are the everyday, ordinary, hardworking bastards in the MIDDLE, the ones who give both sides a fair hearing before they make up their minds. I like those people in the middle, those "genuine liberals" who are open to ideas from all sides. The only thing "moderate" about them is that they aren't easily bullshitted, and they don't buy a pig in a poke. They question, they THINK. They're REAL. And they aren't so dug in that they can't change with changing realities. It's what happens when one uses one's brain regularly. I wish more of these assholes would try that sometime. Yes indeed.

The “radical left” is not tolerant at all, they’re lockstep partisans. They’re every bit as obnoxious as the radical right, with their “musts” and absolutes.

It’s all bullshit on the fringes. It’s also a helluva lotta heat, and damned little light. The real liberals are the everyday, ordinary, hardworking bastards in the MIDDLE, the ones who give both sides a fair hearing before they make up their minds.

I like those people in the middle, those “genuine liberals” who are open to ideas from all sides. The only thing “moderate” about them is that they aren’t easily bullshitted, and they don’t buy a pig in a poke. They question, they THINK. They’re REAL. And they aren’t so dug in that they can’t change with changing realities.

It’s what happens when one uses one’s brain regularly. I wish more of these assholes would try that sometime.

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