Texas darlin’, Tech Dude, KG, Judah Benjamin. Methinks you guys are onto something, because “the opposition” protests too much!

Long story short, all this is causing a valid question to evolve into a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

Yeah, but how do you rate it as a SMEAR. They’ve got 138 bloggers so far who pretend to believe Obama forged his COLB, and if the projections hold up there’ll be at least 000001 newspaper on the planet that will actually print some of it.

Ray

You guys are such freaks. Do you thinK Obama would have gotten a valid US passport without a certified BC? Or gotten into school? Or been able to run for office?

Hang on, hang on, they’re not all freaks. Let’s be fair about this. Most of these cartoony characters are only doing a bit of SMEARING. You surely don’t believe there could be THIS many people who cannot join the dots.

The good thing about the birth certificate SMEAR is that it allows them to say words like Arab, Muslim, Indonesian, Illegitimate, Koran, Arab Muslim, Kenya, Terrorist connections, Muslim, Secretive, Unmarried mother,Arab, Muslim, blah blah blah.

Ray

Kos putting it up to shut people up is one thing. Claiming that Kos actually fabricated it is quite another. And I haven’t seen any evidence that the image came from anyone other than the Obama campaign.

se

I don’t know that there are any laws or regulations requiring it be one way or the other. Have you been able to find any? And if there are, I think it’s rather presumptive of the government to dictate whether your child should be named as a Junior or a II. I’d like to think it’s up to the parents what they want the name to be given as on the certificate.

2. AFRICAN instead of Negro, or Black (which wasn’t really “on” back then). African is not a race and never was. It’s not even a COUNTRY. If the father had been Brazilian, would they have put SOUTH AMERICAN? If he’d been French, would they have put EUROPEAN? I think not.

Someone stated that in cases where the father wasn’t a citizen, race was stated geographically. I don’t know if this was the case or not, and as far as I’m aware, no one’s shown conclusively whether it was or not.

I can’t see an entire Vital Statistics Department of a state or territory being that fucking stupid, AFTER 2001, particularly.

I don’t think 2001 would have nothing to do with it. As far as I’m aware, the certifications give the information as entered on the birth certificate.

3. The fact that nothing lined up with any of the other BCs. All of his data was “off”–misaligned– in the KOS version. Why would his document be printed “special?” Different from all the rest?

It wasn’t different than all the rest. While the placement was different than on the Michele COLB, the placement was the same as on the DeCosta, Smith, and Tomoyasu COLBs.

And then, there was that clown who put up blank COLBs…what was up with that?

Just some guy playing around. He’d downloaded the Kos image and used an image editor to remove the data text.

I think the thing is a “facsimile” or a “mock up” that the Kos people dummied up to shut people up. That’s what they’ll say, anyway, if it is demonstrated that the thing is fake. They will declare, unbelievably, no intent to deceive…despite not saying that the thing was a “representation” and not the real thing.

I’ve not seen any evidence that Kos was the source of the image.

I’d also like to see the certificate number–why was that a secret? You have to be a family member to get a certificate, that number isn’t “classified” in any way, so there’s no need to hide it–it isn’t a social security number, after all, it’s simply an “issue date” type number. The fact that it was blocked out suggests that someone else’s document was used…

Why does it necessarily suggest that? The certificate number was blocked out on the Michele COLB as well. And one of the others that Techdude said he used. And it’s also blocked out on the Tomoyasu COLB. Why was that? Were all these other people trying to hide something too?

Clearly, whether right or wrong, others felt that revealing the certificate number might provide others such as identity thieves something useful. How do you know the person who scanned and prepared the Obama image didn’t feel the same way and blocked it out just to be prudent?

Why does there always have to be some nefarious motive behind everything?

se

Are your squirely little paranoid brains so bitter and deluded that you think scores of government agencies have allowed an “uncertified” BC to be used all these years for official purposes?

Do you think the Bush Justice Department and FBI would have granted him a Security Clearance without a proper BC?

You freaks are sick. And crazy. At lease those of you who are not paid GOP operatives.

Larry Johnson, as a former Agency Employee, you know all of this. Why are you encouraging all of these ignorant and/or evil partisan monsters?