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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-548919</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media only pointed the spotlight.  It was Edward's own behavior that created something to point it at.  John Edward's political career isn't over, but he has permanently limited his own possibilities.  That's unfortunate.  

It's not that the media has sold out to anyone in particular.  They've simply lost interest in higher journalistic standards.  They'll focus on whatever boosts their ratings.  

Remember all the mainstream media play Rev. Wright's sensational soundbytes got?  Any &lt;em&gt;credible&lt;/em&gt; scandal concerning Obama would instantly become their &lt;em&gt;total&lt;/em&gt; center of attention.  There would be a media feeding frenzy.  They couldn't help themselves.  

This is why most people don't consider most rumors about Obama believeable.  If there was evidence, &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; could keep it out of the spotlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media only pointed the spotlight.  It was Edward&#8217;s own behavior that created something to point it at.  John Edward&#8217;s political career isn&#8217;t over, but he has permanently limited his own possibilities.  That&#8217;s unfortunate.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that the media has sold out to anyone in particular.  They&#8217;ve simply lost interest in higher journalistic standards.  They&#8217;ll focus on whatever boosts their ratings.  </p>
<p>Remember all the mainstream media play Rev. Wright&#8217;s sensational soundbytes got?  Any <em>credible</em> scandal concerning Obama would instantly become their <em>total</em> center of attention.  There would be a media feeding frenzy.  They couldn&#8217;t help themselves.  </p>
<p>This is why most people don&#8217;t consider most rumors about Obama believeable.  If there was evidence, <em>nothing</em> could keep it out of the spotlight.</p>
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		<title>By: MEchelle Hates America!</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-542806</link>
		<dc:creator>MEchelle Hates America!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;They were married for only a year before he left for Viet Nam to serve his country and be tortured for over five years.

He came home and was in no position physically or emotionally to care for a wife he couldn't even recognize - due to her car accident.

McCain has supported her and the kids ever since and remained married to his second wife for decades.

Oblowme does blow and fools around in limos and Edwards is a jackass.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>They were married for only a year before he left for Viet Nam to serve his country and be tortured for over five years.</p>
<p>He came home and was in no position physically or emotionally to care for a wife he couldn&#8217;t even recognize - due to her car accident.</p>
<p>McCain has supported her and the kids ever since and remained married to his second wife for decades.</p>
<p>Oblowme does blow and fools around in limos and Edwards is a jackass.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Lorey</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-542615</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN is after Edwards and anybody and anyone who isn't their beloved Nobama. CNN has the worst poltical team on TV.  They have all sold out to the great pretender and future destroyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN is after Edwards and anybody and anyone who isn&#8217;t their beloved Nobama. CNN has the worst poltical team on TV.  They have all sold out to the great pretender and future destroyer.</p>
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		<title>By: MEchelle Hates America!</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-542598</link>
		<dc:creator>MEchelle Hates America!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ming ding a ling -

    To put it mildly, I don't need your advice.

And I still don't give a shit about your slanted statistics.

Things that would make a difference:

1.  Focusing teams of experts on IRS audits of major corporations.

2.  Focusing teams of experts on ending medicare fraud.

3.  Focusing teams of experts on ending defense contract spending waste/fraud.

4.  Focusing teams of experts on ending welfare fraud. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ming ding a ling -</p>
<p>    To put it mildly, I don&#8217;t need your advice.</p>
<p>And I still don&#8217;t give a shit about your slanted statistics.</p>
<p>Things that would make a difference:</p>
<p>1.  Focusing teams of experts on IRS audits of major corporations.</p>
<p>2.  Focusing teams of experts on ending medicare fraud.</p>
<p>3.  Focusing teams of experts on ending defense contract spending waste/fraud.</p>
<p>4.  Focusing teams of experts on ending welfare fraud. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-541946</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain's winning issues is that BHO is too inexperienced and doesn't understand foreign policy and the economy and would put the US in a worse condition.  It's an excellent strategy because it's pretty much true - everybody knows you don't raise taxes in a recession, and everyone knows the surge worked - well, everyone except Obama.  And you can use that state of denial to make hi seem out of touch.

By the way Dick Morris writes excellent political analysis - his columns are a must read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s winning issues is that BHO is too inexperienced and doesn&#8217;t understand foreign policy and the economy and would put the US in a worse condition.  It&#8217;s an excellent strategy because it&#8217;s pretty much true - everybody knows you don&#8217;t raise taxes in a recession, and everyone knows the surge worked - well, everyone except Obama.  And you can use that state of denial to make hi seem out of touch.</p>
<p>By the way Dick Morris writes excellent political analysis - his columns are a must read.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-541440</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to think the 2008 election is some sort of personality or popularity contest, and that I'm trying to convince you to &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; Barack Obama.  It isn't, and I'm not.  

The 2008 election is a contest between two very different sets of proposals and policies, which will have two very different sets of consequences.  
Tax proposals and economic policies are only part of that difference, but they're an especially good thing to look at because they will affect us &lt;em&gt;directly&lt;/em&gt;, and can actually be reduced to dollars for a point-by-point comparison.  

If you have &lt;em&gt;no concern&lt;/em&gt; for how much money is in your pocket, or whose pocket that money winds up in, I suppose you can safely ignore that suggestion and just believe whatever a 30-second television ad tells you.  You can then vote for the guy who endorsed it because you &lt;em&gt;dislike&lt;/em&gt; the guy it attacks.  

Otherwise, you really should look at the specifics and think about what they mean.  

Does that sound like an attempt to disrupt and demoralize?  &lt;strong&gt;Hey, it's a purely &lt;em&gt;selfish&lt;/em&gt; suggestion.&lt;/strong&gt;  If McCain gets elected, I get &lt;em&gt;poorer&lt;/em&gt;.  My dollars lose  value, and the stuff I need to buy with them costs more.  That's what Bush economic policy did to me--to the tune of a 41% drop in the value of the dollar over a mere 8 years.  And McCain promises more of the same, because his &lt;em&gt;policies&lt;/em&gt; are the same.  I'm sure as hell not part of that wealthy class that will rake in the money under the McCain tax cuts.   Are you?  

If you are, I &lt;em&gt;really am&lt;/em&gt; wasting my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to think the 2008 election is some sort of personality or popularity contest, and that I&#8217;m trying to convince you to <em>like</em> Barack Obama.  It isn&#8217;t, and I&#8217;m not.  </p>
<p>The 2008 election is a contest between two very different sets of proposals and policies, which will have two very different sets of consequences.<br />
Tax proposals and economic policies are only part of that difference, but they&#8217;re an especially good thing to look at because they will affect us <em>directly</em>, and can actually be reduced to dollars for a point-by-point comparison.  </p>
<p>If you have <em>no concern</em> for how much money is in your pocket, or whose pocket that money winds up in, I suppose you can safely ignore that suggestion and just believe whatever a 30-second television ad tells you.  You can then vote for the guy who endorsed it because you <em>dislike</em> the guy it attacks.  </p>
<p>Otherwise, you really should look at the specifics and think about what they mean.  </p>
<p>Does that sound like an attempt to disrupt and demoralize?  <strong>Hey, it&#8217;s a purely <em>selfish</em> suggestion.</strong>  If McCain gets elected, I get <em>poorer</em>.  My dollars lose  value, and the stuff I need to buy with them costs more.  That&#8217;s what Bush economic policy did to me&#8211;to the tune of a 41% drop in the value of the dollar over a mere 8 years.  And McCain promises more of the same, because his <em>policies</em> are the same.  I&#8217;m sure as hell not part of that wealthy class that will rake in the money under the McCain tax cuts.   Are you?  </p>
<p>If you are, I <em>really am</em> wasting my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Brazile</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-540674</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Brazile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton Fan:

Quit using all those big words or they might think we're educated:-)

Stop the hate:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton Fan:</p>
<p>Quit using all those big words or they might think we&#8217;re educated:-)</p>
<p>Stop the hate:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-540663</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first five words of that response apply--&lt;strong&gt;Not naive enough to go....&lt;/strong&gt;

You need that check from Axelrod, eh, and you don't care that people here look askance at your candidate and your defenses of him?

You can't be looking to change hearts and minds--that's not going to happen.  

Your only hope is to try to disrupt and demoralize.  Don't worry--Obama's very presence on the national stage as a "presumptous" nominee is demoralizing enough.  

But that won't cause us to behave stupidly, and vote for the arrogant, inexperienced, prevaricating, doubletalkng, corporate-crook asshole.  

So keep posting.  When the troll numbers go up, we know the campaign is getting more and more frightened.  

And they should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first five words of that response apply&#8211;<strong>Not naive enough to go&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>You need that check from Axelrod, eh, and you don&#8217;t care that people here look askance at your candidate and your defenses of him?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be looking to change hearts and minds&#8211;that&#8217;s not going to happen.  </p>
<p>Your only hope is to try to disrupt and demoralize.  Don&#8217;t worry&#8211;Obama&#8217;s very presence on the national stage as a &#8220;presumptous&#8221; nominee is demoralizing enough.  </p>
<p>But that won&#8217;t cause us to behave stupidly, and vote for the arrogant, inexperienced, prevaricating, doubletalkng, corporate-crook asshole.  </p>
<p>So keep posting.  When the troll numbers go up, we know the campaign is getting more and more frightened.  </p>
<p>And they should.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Brazile</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-540633</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Brazile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have seen all my posts, it's my signature sign off. Got it from my mother Brazilla.

Peace James!

Stop the hate:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have seen all my posts, it&#8217;s my signature sign off. Got it from my mother Brazilla.</p>
<p>Peace James!</p>
<p>Stop the hate:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/painful/#comment-540631</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one who continues to support/donate to her ex-husband's campaign?  That ex-wife?  

The one who agreed to a divorce because "John wanted to be twenty five again.  I didn't."

That wife?  Whose pelvis was CRUSHED in a car accident?  And who realized what that sort of overwhelming trauma did to any hope for a sex life?  

Carol split with him because it would have been sooner or later that they parted, and she knew it.  He wasn't a total bastard, he adopted her children from her first husband (she left her first husband, McCain was her SECOND) , and cared for them (and continues to regard them) as his own.   He wasn't cheap with the settlement, either.   

McCain admits he was an shitty husband, and couldn't "deal."  He continues to apologize for it, too.  

But then, he didn't father any kids out of wedlock; suggesting he was respectful enough not to be sloppy, at any rate.  

And John Edwards didn't spend five and a half years as a POW, either.   He went home to a wife every night.  A wife who didn't have a crushed pelvis.   

There's a reason Carol Shepp continues to support her ex-husband.  She knows him better than you do, and she knows what was up with that faded, broken marriage.  She knows what happened to POW wives--even those who didn't get in car accidents--after years of absence.  

It's not as cut and dried as you seem to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one who continues to support/donate to her ex-husband&#8217;s campaign?  That ex-wife?  </p>
<p>The one who agreed to a divorce because &#8220;John wanted to be twenty five again.  I didn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>That wife?  Whose pelvis was CRUSHED in a car accident?  And who realized what that sort of overwhelming trauma did to any hope for a sex life?  </p>
<p>Carol split with him because it would have been sooner or later that they parted, and she knew it.  He wasn&#8217;t a total bastard, he adopted her children from her first husband (she left her first husband, McCain was her SECOND) , and cared for them (and continues to regard them) as his own.   He wasn&#8217;t cheap with the settlement, either.   </p>
<p>McCain admits he was an shitty husband, and couldn&#8217;t &#8220;deal.&#8221;  He continues to apologize for it, too.  </p>
<p>But then, he didn&#8217;t father any kids out of wedlock; suggesting he was respectful enough not to be sloppy, at any rate.  </p>
<p>And John Edwards didn&#8217;t spend five and a half years as a POW, either.   He went home to a wife every night.  A wife who didn&#8217;t have a crushed pelvis.   </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason Carol Shepp continues to support her ex-husband.  She knows him better than you do, and she knows what was up with that faded, broken marriage.  She knows what happened to POW wives&#8211;even those who didn&#8217;t get in car accidents&#8211;after years of absence.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as cut and dried as you seem to think.</p>
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