R.E.S.P.E.C.T. – Why Obama Can’t Give It and Why He Will Lose
By Ani on August 8, 2008 at 9:06 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, CNN, Current Affairs, DNC, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Hillary Clinton
At the Rules and ByLaws Mugging, uh, Meeting on May31st, Howard Dean, in a truly disgraceful effort to appease Hillary’s angry supporters finally acknowledged that there might have been a bit of sexism in the campaign. But, of course, he didn’t know about it because “he doesn’t watch cable TV.” Weeks after the contest was forcibly ended, some media types dipped a toe in the waters of sexism and copped to about 5% of the brutal treatment Hillary received.
Two months after Obama has claimed the nomination, far from abating, the clamor for Hillary to be nominated has gotten louder. PUMA has grown, for obvious reasons. One big problem: R.E.S.P.E.C.T. We can’t seem to get any. Never mind sastisfaction. We ain’t getting’ any of that either.
From Rosemary Regello’s excellent piece in the City Edition:
Try telling a disgruntled Clinton activist it’s futile to wage a campaign without a candidate, and she’ll ask you if it’s easier to let a knucklehead run the country…
[T]he New York senator is bound by her blackmail agreement with the Democratic National Committee to stump for her rival, a candidate who many of her supporters regard as corrupt and inexperienced…
Why did she give up? By June 3rd, the day of the last primaries, neither candidate had earned enough pledged delegates to claim the mantle of presumptive nominee. Moreover, when you consider the Democratic National Committee’s Alice in Wonderland approach to allocating delegates, you don’t find a nominating process at all, but rather grounds for a criminal conspiracy. Thousands of complaints filed after of a dozen red-state caucuses, ranging from voter intimidation to outright ballot stuffing, suggest that some of those contests were deliberately rigged to give Obama two-to-one margins of victory. Yet even without an investigation, a sixth-grade civics student already knows that plenty of mischief has gone on here. Whatever the official explanation as to why Obama “won” the election, it can never pass the straight-face test. Beginning last March, Clinton was hounded by the party establishment and its collaborators in the American media until she quit the race. That’s not an election. That’s a coup.
One might go so far as to suggest that all those high-ranking party officials involved should be charged with treason. For the first time in American history, the Democrats are about to crown a nominee who’s not only unfit to serve, but whose ties to foreign bad boys like Aiham Alsammarae, Nadhmi Auchi and Antoin Rezko make him a candidate for the no-fly list, not the presidency.
There’s also the matter of those superdelegates. This elite cast of elected leaders and party officials can’t vote until the convention, yet the DNC went ahead and declared Obama the winner based on their input. Even on the official website democrats.org, the Chosen One was being heralded as “the Democratic nominee” within hours of the last contest. In criminal justice parlance, this is what’s called perpetrating a fraud.
I couldn’t have said it better. Adding insult to grievous injury, the misogynist, partriarchal ‘what does she want’ attitude from the Boyz in the press has not abated either:
The nonsense most folks are fed in the mainstream media is enough to make steam come out of anybody’s ears. A case in point, Kenneth Walsh files this story: Despite Obama’s Efforts, Clinton Supporters Won’t Fade Away with U.S. News. Even the title is insulting. Fade Away? 18,000,000 people voted for Hillary, more than any primary candidate in history. Fade away? To where? Wait, don’t answer that. As for ‘Obama’s efforts’ — he has not reached out in any way. Remember when he told Rep. Diane Watson of the Congressional Black Caucus that Hillary’s supporters need to ‘get over it’?
[Clinton supporters] argue that she hasn’t been given the respect she deserves even though Obama has apparently agreed to give her a coveted primetime speaking slot August 26 and he has been quite conciliatory.
Wait! Stop the presses! That charlatan has AGREED to give her a COVETED prime time speaking spot! He deigns to be conciliatory? They are still treating Hillary like the scullery maid.
Obama and his surrogates impugned her character, misrepresented her policies and her record and got away with it daily in the media. Bill Clinton was called racist, they implied she was race baiting and let her supporters be called racists and now Obama is being conciliatory? Who wrote this story? Dick Cheney?
She is getting a COVETED PRIMETIME SPEAKING SPOT – WOW. Obama you are so GENEROUS! But wait! That’s not all…
On Sunday, he endorsed the seating of the full delegations from Florida and Michigan, which had violated party rules by holding their primaries too early. Party leaders had penalized them, but Obama is now asking that the penalties be lifted. Clinton won both contests, although neither she nor Obama campaigned actively in the two states.
NOW he is going to be generous enough to seat all the delegates. Isn’t that nice of him? Once they are seated the race would amount to a tie. I think they would be all of 59 pledged delegates apart. But he is going to be really generous and allow that Clinton woman to speak!!! It speaks!! Wow.
I’ll try to contain my glee at all the respect he has shown to her and her supporters. Hillary won almost every large state, all the battleground states, has the popular vote and the electoral map in her pocket. Never mind that she is actually a real leader and not a media creation. But he’s being really generous…
The media has to perpetuate this line of reasoning, otherwise they must admit complicity in selling this phony bills of goods to the public, forever losing what little credibility they have left. They, and the DNC, are still hoping the public won’t wake up and notice the fraud that Ms. Regello discusses and that many of us are still reeling from.
Here’s another quote from the article:
For their part, some Obama backers consider the hard-line Hillary supporters to be sore losers. “What usually happens is, if you lose, you go silent for a while,” says an Obama strategist. “But Hillary’s supporters haven’t gone silent. They’re still out there in the news.”
“They went negative on us (in the primaries),” he adds. “But we didn’t fight fire with fire. It could’ve been scorched earth, but that’s not where our guy is.”
Sore losers? WE went negative? Help me out here, ladies and gents. Do I even need to dignify that one with a response? That’s not where their guy is? No. Rather Obama reminds me of Bush. A snake oil salesman wrapped up in a good marketing package.
And this is the pièce de resistance:
Now, the Obama team’s patience is being tested again, Obama advisers say. One particular problem is Bill Clinton’s apparent reluctance to campaign publicly for Obama. The former president’s role at the convention remains unclear.
Gosh. That darned President Clinton is testing Obama’s patience! That darned really successful two-term President who presided over eight years of peace and prosperity in this country. Darn him!!! He’s really testing Obama’s patience. Join the club. The clueless candidate, lost at sea without his teleprompter, has been testing my patience for months.
But, according to CNN, all is not lost because…
…[F]ormer President Bill Clinton will have a speaking role at the Democratic Convention…
The sources say he will speak Wednesday night, the night of the vice presidential nominee’s speech. Barack Obama will officially become the presidential nominee the next night.
Candy Crowley also reports Obama and Bill Clinton spoke today.
…
Obama said Thursday that the controversy over whether the New York senator’s delegates would be able to vote for her at the Democratic convention was a media creation.“There hasn’t been controversy other than what you guys are projecting right now,” he told reporters. Obama described conversations between the two campaigns over convention planning as “seamless.” “It has not been a problem,” he said.
Seamless, eh? I think not, baby puppy.
Asked later in the day whether he would be content if Clinton’s name were placed into nomination at the convention, Obama responded “I didn’t say that. I said they are working it out, guys.”
Oh. So I guess Obama is not so conciliatory after all.
If Obama really had respect for Hillary or Bill Clinton and was generous enough to put the interests of someone else besides himself first – you know, like the American people, he would show the respect to her and to her voters and ask for her name to be put into nomination. He would want the stronger candidate to drive us to victory – whoever that may be – and let the chips fall where they may. He would want everyone to be heard, knowing, as Hillary herself has stated, we would have a better chance then to be united as a party and win in November.
However, Senator Obama’s nature is to ride a wave of arrogance in order to cover up his fear, so true unity at the Convention, true respect for Hillary and her platform obviously will not happen. Not of Obama’s own volition, anyway. This does feel very much like a coup in the Party. If Obama, and indeed the elites at the DNC, were not running scared ever since the Texas and Ohio primaries, we would not be seeing this debacle now.
The very thing that keeps the Obama campaign insistent on continuing this pattern of exclusion and disrespect is the very thing that will destroy the Democratic Party. We are supposed to be the guys who count every vote. We are supposed to champion fair reflection. The more they refuse to acknowledge his “luck” in have the DNC riding shotgun for him at every turn, the more we dig in our heels, the greater our rage at this injustice.
Frankly this man is singularly unqualified and I don’t think I can support him under any circumstances. But a man who truly loved the idea of “America returning to its best traditions” might put his ego aside for just a moment and be courageous enough to truly let the delegates have a fair vote at the Convention. In answer to the question Ms. Reggello posed earlier, I think Hillary stepped aside because she put the Democratic agenda first.
It is ironic that Senator Obama’s personal flaws prevent him from doing the one thing in August that might give him even an outside chance in November.


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So you think that Clinton delegates are going to hold out for Hillary Clinton?
Rather doubtful.
I have a good friend who is a Clinton delegate and she has NO intention of voting for Clinton on the roll call. As far as she’s concerned, this is done. Since she used to be the chair of our state party, she knows a lot of other delegates and she knows of NO Clinton delegates from our state who are voting for Clinton on the roll call and none of them are signing the petition either.
Frankly, it’s normal for the delegates to vote for the presumptive nominee at the convention. And that’s what you’ll see.
Sorry you didn’t understand the norms of modern convention politics before - but that’s how it’s done.
don’t you ever tire from flapping your lips to the Axelrod tune?
Your foundations are always so phoney and full of crap, it is hard to fathom Obama actualy paying you $7/hr, but Obama does plenty of stupid wasteful spending doesn’t he….lol
And you are a waste debbie
debbie is a hairy guy in Gaza.
Aaaand Debbie has to share ONE I LUV OBAMA T-SHIRT…..with 7 other Obots in the village…..chuckle…..IN GAZA…..
Hamas brothers in GAza wrote the check for debbie. Good old debbie. Isn’t that just the kind of name a guy would pick if he was pretending to be a girl?
Probably watched Debbie Does Dallas too often.
I hear it is in reruns in Gaza.
I think Debbie’s got “her” lips doing something else for Axelrod (if you know what I mean).
Wow that was a long post Debbie you better go lay down and rest.
Funny! I’m writing my third book right now, have 3 of 7 chapters done.
BTW, what do the Clinton delegates you know say?
that they plan to vote for Hillary
Ahah! an author!
I particularly enjoyed letting my dog do the “connect the dots” page, but you’ve made the coloring way too hard for Barry’s Kids.
Remember, they use the BIG crayons…
Seven chapters? The whole book? Double spaced?
Go take a nap
How’s your crayon holding up?
ROFL, waking up the neighbors!
I was until now unaware that T. S. Geisel infested blogs under the pen-name of “debbie”.
Ya … right Deb … and you live in the 51st State… the state of delusion and denial.
“The Truth According to Debbie.” Obama was heard to opine yesterday that he has truth on his side, so he’s not concerned about offending anyone. That makes two of you then, debbie?
OMG, wait a minute. Maybe debbie IS Oba….
I’d suggest that the pop-up characters be in contrasting colors on this book.
Good Debbie. You as a Clinton delegate vote Obama. We’ll make note of it.
That is funny since nobody wants your book. Three anti-Obama books are in the top 20 — read it and weep.
Debbie writing “The Audasity of a CRAP CANNON”.
Chapter One. Lies
Chapter Two. Flip Floppery
Chapter Three. Baam Bam Bamboozle Man
Chapter Four. Don’t Blame the Pitard.
Chapter Five. BOxedus
Chapter Six. Freezing in Chicago
Chapter Seven On Vacation.
Debbie you didn’t say what the other two books were.
Why are you here? There’s nothing for you and if you think you are convincing anyone of anything, you are just stupid.
Funny- on HuffPo, and Kos, the PUMAs seem to take offense when somebody asks them why they are there. It could be said that there is nothing there for them, and if they think they are convincing anyone that they are also stupid. If you wonder why there is any animosity towards Hillary and her supporters look no further then this thread. See the nasty responses given to Debbie who only stated that she didn’t believe that Clinton delegates are going to hold out for Hillary Clinton. Whatever happened to freedom of speech.
As Hillary would say: Shame on you!
You seem to think freedom of speech only applies to you. In fact, people are regularly banned from The Orange Sewer, and some comments never see the light of day on the Huffy Po. The site administrators here are very lenient, and the regulars are welcome to attack anyone they like. They are even more entitled to freedom of speech than the people who come here to cause trouble. Shame on you right back!
PS: I can’t stand either Kos or HP, and I would prefer their minions didn’t bring their vile brand of Blame America leftism and Jihad Barry idolatry to this site. It is a bastion of sanity these days and should remain so.
Oh, freedom of speech applies to you as well.
I mean, there’s no law that says you can’ be an idiot.
Also, yes, I’ve noticed that the PUMA movement is growing, from 316 people back in May to around 325 now. At this rate you might be able to swing the election by April of 2036.
Then why are you so worried Ashwipe?
Debbie, Are you old enough to have ever seen a convention. SHUT UP!
Funny! I’ve reported on several.
To what? The Kindergarten class at your school??
Beat it.
i bet you broke your crayons doing it too.
So, in what years did we have a unanimous first ballot?
Touche, Denise!
You’re clueless!!
Read the damn Delegate Selection Rules. Specifically, Rule 12J. To wit:
“Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.“
That’s how it’s done? Exactly what country are you in? That isn’t how it has been done or how it is done in the United States of America.
Are you from the Obama country of 57 states? You know what country that is don’t you?
The delegates we elected are bound to vote for the candidate they were elected to represent during the first vote! I know that certain ones are weak and will cave soon, but then they have to take responsibility for their actions.
the only thing you show is you don’t know anything about how it is done.
Debbie Does Dumbass -
You already said this same stupid shit on the Pet Peeve Post.
And go check on the kids before their parents get back.
You’ve got a friend? Is your friend a stooge too?
The only woman to ever make a real run for the Presidency doesn’t get a roll call vote because of the “norms” of “modern conventions”. Smart, Democrats….very smart.
Now, Debbie, sweetie don’t you have a manicure to get or something? After all politics and all of that serious stuff is ‘men’s work’, right sweetie? Go get your hair done and leave the real work to them, m’kay?
Do you want her to have a roll call vote? She lost once, you really want her to lose again?
Ashwipe - you’re still Debbie Does Dumbass by another name.
She’s tough enough to take it, just like all of the men who have had roll-call votes in the past and not won. What, you think she can’t handle it because she’s a woman?
You posted this before, Debbie. If you’re working from a script, you could change a few words here and there–just for variation. So, we don’t get bored.
Just a friendly suggestion, of course.
Huh? I don’t remember any convention where there wasn’t a floor vote with all the candidates receiving votes. Please tell me when you believe it was otherwise.
Debbie…
Please ‘ask’ your friend the Clinton delegate why she joined the Democratic Party.
Ask her to explain to you what she views as her role in the campaign process…
Is she a rubber stamp or will she represent the interests of the voters and the preservation of the democratic process.
If she is a rubber stamp…please pass on this message to her from me…
“BAAHHH BYE”…to her future role as a delegate and to the chances of Sen Obama defeating Sen McCain in the Fall.
Ask her if she is comfortable supporting the DNC for the sake of ‘party unity’ when the following remains unresolved about Sen Obama:
We know very little about Sen Obama’s past because, with 90 days to go till election, he still has not released the following fairly routine documents for public inspection . For example:
1.Certified Copy of original Birth certificate. Certificate on his website proven to be a fake.
2. Columbia College records (including admissions and financial aid/scholarship/student loan applications info if applicable)
3. Columbia Thesis paper
4. Certification of Live Birth (COLB)
5. Harvard College records(including admissions and financial aid/scholarship/student loan application s info info if applicable)
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations of all step-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records
11. Occidental College records (including admissions and financial aid/scholarship info if applicable)
12. Parent’s Marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service Registration
15. Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. University of Chicago scholarly articles
17. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
What makes Obama tick?
Check out this VERY INTERESTING article…including blogs posted to that article…
http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-community-organizer-what-is-community-organizing-anyway
I ask you…who is Sen Obama’s REAL BASE? WHo has he stayed with the longest time-and who or what is close to his heart and soul , and to his family’s (his wife and two daughters) heart and soul ?
debbie — If this is a done deal as you call it — then what are you doing here everynight? You want to rub our noses in it? By doing so you show your true colors and make us all the more determined not to support Obama. You people are so arrogant and repulsive that you have lost millions of Democrats not just those of us who call ourselves PUMAs but Democrats who never heard the name PUMA have decided they cannot trust Obama to be the leader of this country. The will quietly vote for McCain this year — the problems are too serious to be left to an amateur.
Can you give a good reason why anyone would vote for this racist-anti american - know nothing?
He has nothing but contempt for America and her people including the fools that follow him.
Never in my lifetime has there ever been such and unqualified candidate.
For the unholy three dean- brazille- palosi that promoted this fraud I wish jail time for treason.
Any one who loves this country would not want this fraud who would hurt her before he would help her any where near the whitehouse.
This is not about Senator Clinton, this is about doing what is best for America. That is never letting backtrack barak near the whitehouse.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS, BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Debbie, I think this is exactly why BO has not been able to sway Clinton supporters, and he never will. If the delegates do this, the rift in the party will only get wider and deeper.
Put down the cult-aid and cheetos and smell the coffee.
Hillary 08!!!!
Veterans/Survivors of the quadriennial affliction, steeped in the antics leading up to the Democratic Convention are quite knowledgeable of the traditions of the process of nominating, ELECTING and celebrating each candidate. Beginning with the melodious “ALABAMA” it is a curtain call from the 50 act play, permitting applause for participation of “favorite Son/Daughter” candidates and their campaign workers, roll call braggadoccio footnoting the unique achievements as each state is spotlighted, preceeded by floor fights that are the required sugar and spice that can make nice.
Your comment has the distinct flavor of a hijacker, masquerading as a “progressive,” attempting to pass off condescending reprimands on seasoned “know betters.” You don’t even realize how transparent is your arrogance!
Delegates can vote for Obama if they like but they also have to realize that their vote for him is a vote that will make McCain POTUS. If the democratic delegates are that myopic, then they simply like losing an election.
Try to remember that in spite of what Obama tells his followers, this nation is not run by the few. It might take a bit of time but in the end majority of people will vote against fools.
well how did FDR get elected. its never been done before, bite your tongue debbie
Debbie: The point is not that Hillary Clinton delegates will “hold out” for Hillary. The point is that they get a roll call vote so that they can cast their first vote for Hillary Clinton, as has been done at every convention. This is the first time the “presumptive” nominee and the DNC is attempting to circumvent and deny that 1st roll call vote. It’s preposterous and it’s offensive for them to attempt to deny Democratic Party delegates the opportunity to cast a vote for the nominee they were selected to represent at the Convention, particularly since most of them would gladly cast a vote for Obama on subsequent roll-call votes. By denying the first roll call vote and not allowing Clinton to have her name placed in nomination for that vote, the Obama campaign and the DNC are assuring continuing rage on the part of Clinton supporters, and other Democrats who just don’t like what is happening and demand fairness and justice for our party.
Seems sort of pointless, mean-spirited, and futile to do it, if they want voters to cast a vote for Obama in November. But, if they really think they can win without a good portion of 18 Million Democrats, then they may have a big surprise coming to them on election day.
Oh? Then who is this mystery delegate?
How much do you get paid per post, Little Debbie?
Obama is fully qualified, his wife claims he can even save our souls, after all, Rev Wright saved Bambi’s, so what more can anyone want?
Under an Obama POTUS, our major export will be community organizing, won’t eveyone feel just peachy?
All better now, Mel? I hope that you still don’t have to keep getting up all night to use the bathroom.
Never had to debbie, I am not as full of it as you are, but there again, I, unlike you do not work for a pile of it for a pathetic $7/hr blogging fee either…..lol
You are such a card! I remember you talking about your prostate problem a few months ago and was hoping it was all better.
As far as I know, Obama doesn’t pay bloggers. He sure doesn’t pay me.
Are you earning McCain points?
He sure doesn’t pay me.
That’s because you’re one of his female bloggers.
“debbie” is still overpaid.
LOL!!!
You made me spit coffee.
thanks for proving your ignorance debbie, everyone knows obamarama pays bloggers and you definately need to take your prozac, because your dillusions are becoming extreme now…..lol
I`m up at night alot. So much so that I drained the toilet and had a picture of your leader painted on the bottom of the bowl, It makes getting up a special treat….but thanks for your concern.
Ah! The maturity of a sophomore frat boy. Thanks for sharing.
You spend an awful lot of time here putting up with this. My sense is you secretly like it here and would love to join us. There is NO other reason any sane person would tolerate all this abuse.
Oh, yes, there is.
Remember, I write books about politics.
that’s a good one. put up your evidence or STFU.
If thats true, show us your previous literary work?
Come on… we’re waiting… put up or SHUT UP!!
Debbie Does Dumbass has schizophrenia.
Sure you write lots of books. In your own special language.
So glad no sane person speaks your language.
CRAZIES FOR OBLOWME ‘08!
Oh right. Folks, “debbie” is the ghost of David Halberstam. Over here, folks!
Your such a filabuster, Debbie
She writes books. Probably the type with lots and lots of pictures. Poor Debbie.
Eat this:
Bots be alarmed. Scripts and teleprompters are for kids. Get thee to a rigorous critical analysis university course, and then up and beyond the multiple levels of a competitive career ladder. No “special needs” skippers either. Perhaps then, seasoned and logical rationale will obviate the need for zealotry for your “cause.”
per my BFF towncrier
HARP,
I’m thinking a quick application decal…
1. Shut off water
2. Flush, then empty and dry bottom of bowl
3. Apply Decal
4. Turn on water
5. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Your idea, your royalties!
I donate all royalties to PUMA.
HARP…RFLMAO….I am so glad you are on this planet and an NQ regular….You make me laugh….usually when I really need it.
ROLF!!!
Harp, I gotta see that!!
Debbie is definitely not earning her $7.00, because that first post is a repeat from another thread.
My, oh my there is just so much one can say about the “Great One.” But when all else fails pull out the prostate comments or racism or how about hormome overload?
It’s boring, Debbie. You and your Obamatrons need an overhaul. Fly back to the Mothership. I hear there are “new orders” for the troops, scripts to save the “Blessed One” from all the nasty stuff.
Don’t trip now. Don’t fall on your sword.
Obama did not pay you because he passed a tax on you idiots and wanted to see how it would go over. How does it feel now to work for nothing? Sucker.
“debbie”
In addition to discriminating again older americans and people that may have health problems, do you kick animals?
Yes, we can certainly tell you are an Obama supporter because you are a bigot.
I’m not a bigot at all. I was asking about Mel’s health because I was concerned after him writing about his prostate problem one time. But maybe I have mixed up with another Mel. If so, I’m sorry you took offense. In my world, asking about another’s health is actually a nice thing. How about in your world?
It is not nice if you are being sarcastic.
stop lying.