Obama’s Impending Pearl Harbor
By Larry Johnson on August 9, 2008 at 11:22 PM in Backtrack Obama, Birth Certificate (Barack Obama), Birth Mystery, Certification of Birth, Certification of Live Birth, Citizenship, Current Affairs, Democratic Nomination, Dual Citizenship, Soetoro, Whitey Tape, colb, eligibility, hawaii
After a very productive time (working, not playing) in Hawaii, I believe that the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor is an apt metaphor for what awaits Barack Obama if he becomes the Democrat’s official nominee. Michelle’s “whitey” tape and the controversy over his birth certificate are the least of his concerns. Opponents of Obama and some proponents of McCain have acquired information that will rapidly erase any memory of the audacity and perfidy of John Edwards.
The “surprise” attack by the Japanese should not have caught the US fleet at Pearl Harbor unawares. There were advanced warnings that people in key positions ignored or shrugged off as unimportant. Well, guess what boys and girls? Similar warnings are now in the hands of the Democratic leadership and they are choosing to ignore the flashing red lights that signal danger ahead.
Just today, courtesy of the Rocky Mountain News, we confirmed that Barack aka Barry Soetoro Obama was a citizen of Kenya since 1963. Barack has yet to stipulate when he renounced or relinquished that citizenship. That will be a distracting issue in the upcoming campaign. Americans don’t want to elect a Kenyan as President. It is that simple.
But then there is the Indonesian problem and his Hawaiian birth certificate.
I confirmed today that several teams/individuals visited Jakarta during the last six months to gather up critical documents regarding Barack. It is amazing what money can buy. The information includes details of how Barack made his way to Pakistan. Oh! Did I mention there have been similar efforts underway in Pakistan. There are several lessons and warnings in the John Edwards affair for Obama. First and foremost, you cannot hide your past.
Did I also mention how small Hawaii is? Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.
Barack aka Barry Soetoro might have escaped scrutiny back in 1960 when there was no internet. Controlling information back then was so much easier. Not today. It is there for the taking and the Democrats foolishly chose to trust this clown just as they trusted John Edwards.
Who would have thought that John Edwards and his wife would be so arrogant and so disconnected with reality that they would embark on a presidential campaign even though they knew about his affair and the crazy nature of his paramour. Well, that kind of audacity and bamboozlement is not limited to the Edwards family. Meet the Obamas. You don’t know them? Don’t worry, Republican operatives are loaded for bear and you are going to meet a Barack Obama that was hidden and disguised during the Democratic primary. And when the introduction is over the Obama supporters will wish the only thing they had to worry about was a video with Michelle saying disparaging things about caucasians.
Dems. You’ve been warned. Don’t be surprised when the attacks come.
I lived on an island–everyone on an island knows everything because there’s nowhere to go— Thanks, Larry.
But hey, why wait until he is the nominee? Can’t we put him in jail yet? Is it a venue fight? I had a really gloomy theory about Pakistan last April so anxiously await the outcome.
Naturally the media spends more time investigating Edwards’ affair than Obama’s dual citizenship.
Obama is and American. He was born in America, see?
if that’s all you see? then you have a big surprise coming.
Is this the loony bin? I’d understand this site if you-all were McCain-bots, but you profess to like Hillary Clinton. Isn’t she behind Obama?
There’s a video posted here on this site called “What Convinced Me to Vote for Obama”. Do us a favour, watch it and tell us why we should vote for a guy that has kids doing satire about folks like you.
The level of naivete in the Messiah’s followers is truly astounding.
Prove it!
Hey, obamabot, quit using my name.
Use your own name,you impecunious dunderhead!
Get lost. This is not an ObamaTrollic Site. Go pick up your allowance and play some games.
What’s his real name Kevin? He was adopted later by Soetoro.
His parents weren’t married so it isn’t what’s on the ballots…
His mother flew to Kenya while pregnant with OB Jr. She took time off her studies to prepare for baby. They would not let her on return flight to Hawaii due to late term pregnancy restrictions to avoid an in-flight birth. She had the baby in Kenya. Then boarded plane with stop over in Seattle (no direct flight back then). While in Seattle she dropped in on her high school friend Karen. She departed Seattle, flew to Hawaii and AMERICANIZED the name Barack on Kenyan birth certificate to BARRY on U.S. certificate. When Barry was 5 year old, BO mother married ANOTHER Non-U.S. citizen Lolo Soetoro-Indonecian. Soetoro ADOPTED Barry who became Barry Soetoro. They moved tIndonecia and Barry Soetoro was enrolled in 2 schools (1 Catholic/1 Muslim). Registration papers at bothe schools say Barry Soetoro, Indonecian citazen, and a Muslim. Left Indonicia 1971 for Hawaii where he attended one school until graduation. Barry Soretoro decided at 19 years of age to call himself after his Kenyan father Barrack Obama Jr. The name on his Kenyan birth certificate. Obama Sr was a Kenyan Non-US citizen Muslim on a college grant when he met Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama Jr. Mother) (her dad wanted a boy-hence that name) Obama is an Indonesian and Kenyan citizen. There is a lawsuit filed on Obama eligibility filed Aug 08.
No. He was born in Kenya.
The Edwards ran anyhow because they know they get to pocket whatever money is left.
Naturally the media spends more time investigating Edwards’ affair than Obama’s dual citizenship.
Why wait ??? Because they don’t want to fight Billary !
Yeah. Speaking of which, did you hear him tell the press he was going to be body surfing at an “undisclosed location?” What an idiot. Like they can’t circle the island. Some strategic thinker.
LOL !!
The bots are out in full force commenting at the Rocky Mountain denying this on the basis that Kenya is one of those countries that does not allow dual citizenship….
Yeah, right…
The bots are correct: at least until 2007 Kenya has never alowed dual citizenship. Any child born of a Kenyan father is considered a citizen of Kenya.
Here’s what the botbrains can’t process. According to Kenyans obama is a Kenyan NOT an American.
There being NO record that obama has ever renounced his Kenyan citizenship - HE IS A KENYAN CITIZENSHIP which leaves his AMERERICAN
citizenship in question altogether!
And, if indeed, the Soertoro COLB has been exposed (as above) he traveled to live in Indonesia as an INDONESIAN CITIZEN as well.
Who cares what Kenya thinks? He’s running here. Here you can have dual citizenship. But if Kenya forbids it, that doesn’t mean he can’t be an American citizen. Just means he can’t be a Kenyan citizen. Which means he can’t be a dual citizen.
Maybe it will just be in the bathtub in his room!
Or in his mind daydreaming about it on the sofa. Now that WOULD be an undisclosed location!
ok - so how can this tricky terrain for Barack be navigated to make Hillary 44?
I imagine Hillary will have to become VP choice so when Barack implodes and steps down (pretty please), we have the viable candidate.
The thing is - the Republicans know this could becomes the scenario if Clinton becomes VP candidate, therefore they have to do everything they can to make sure this doesn’t happen. Is this the reason for 200 Clinton campaign memos?
Quite a game of chess.
THAT is exactly WHY FOX News has started DISSING Hillary YET AGAIN!!!
iT STARTED mostly a couple nights ago with varrious odd ball anchors who before were always defending her.
Then last night the REGULARS were either doing it or getting real damn close! They smell it. ALL BETS are OFF with FOX & Me!
They are ALL in cahoots with some devil LONG before they will GIVE UP the TRUTH!!
PUMA and NOQTR Radio is IT for me! And even my trust here is sometimes shakey with some of these obvious phony trolls.
sigh
I noticed that too. They smell blood and are gearing up to attack Hillary
What can they say about Hillary that hasn’t already been said fifty times.
True, but when it comes to misogynism it seems there is an element in our society that never tires of the same old jokes. As in “Take my wife … please” which never fails to draw a chuckle among a certain set.
Dawnelle,
The Obamabot troll with inept, dumb intrusive comments here uses my name. I will end my comments with Nobama!
Nobama!
I eat cocks.
Thanks for the laugh! I was hoping something worth reading would show up in these comments.
The big problems is that no matter what , this dooms the Democrats in ‘08— even if we nominated Hillary for President now, how do we convince a majority of Americans that the party that ignored Obama’s past and tried like hell to deliver this phony it’s nomination can be trusted to lead?
I think the Democrats have already disqualified ourselves for 2008 and maybe beyond. Witnessing the Obama Phenomenon, I’d say my party has a lot of growing up to do and is not ready to accept responsibility this year.
Totally with you on this line of thinking. Not to mention that his followers will stay home. Can’t elect a democrat with half a party. Aren’t we establishing that?
This is a very mature perspective. I pretty much faced this fact awhile back. Sad, but true.
Hmmm….Although I’m a skeptic this is my take…I think 1/2 of Obama’s support was a fiction anyway ( christian campers who inflated the expectations ) and were goin to go back to camp anyway….Wriiight after the convention…
This has become bigger than this election in this sense….Dems may be doomed for at least a generation ( Reagan anyone ? ) This could be as much about preventing a republican 12 more years extension and if Clinton can prevent that even if she cannot take the WH….I’m up for that…..The Party needs to be purged of these Corrupt Leaders and Obama has to be stopped because he is a fascist…imho
Truth is in a democracy we need a balance of a minimum of 2 parties
But I’d be OK with a third Centrist party….
I agree. I would love a 3rd party that hangs mostly in the middle. That supports policy because it is a reasonalble solution, not because of some ideology. I’m tired of parties that are controlled by the far right and the far left. Most of us just want what’s best for America!
Amen to that! I’m tired of everything being politics first and what’s good for the country last. While I’m at it, I’ve about had it up to here with all of the PC crap too.
I agree 100% and this is precisely why I have been a McCain supporter for a long time. He has repeatedly shown a willingness to buck the right wing of his party to pursue compromises that he believes to be in the national interest.
Can anyone point to even one incidence of Barack Obama doing the same with the far left of his party?
I agree 100%. I am a die hard Democrat and Hillary supporter that is going to vote McCain. Barack Obama is not good for the United States of America, period.
Um…do you even know what fascism is? Really? Because you don’t get to hammer Obama for being both too liberal and a fascist, since they are on opposite sides of the spectrum. Idiots.
Oblahblah has managed to do what no one else could, take two polar systems, fascism and communism, and combine them into a nightmarish singularity called Obamaland.
How does that work for you, obamatron?
Sadly, I agree.
kick the idiotbots out and start over. gore, are you listening? he did the obligatory lap for obama but he isn’t out there.
yes, I think HRC has to respectfully decline. I think that is why Obama has received so many “nos” on his VP choice….they felt HRC.
I agree that the deception willl doom the dems for a long time, and Obama forever. dean, pelosie, Brazile, reid, kerry, they will all be purged.
HRC maybe in 2012…..but it could be along, long time.
shame on the dems!
Forget ignoring Obama’s past as a problem.
The dems have a woman issue because Barack and Michelle Obama and their legions of followers were DOWN RIGHT MEAN to Hillary Clinton.
The IRONY of asking her if he gets dumped off the list because of this birth thing is beyond believe.
That Michelle Whitey tape if it exists will be released when Hillary has no time to gear up.
Obama is an empty shell. He actually believes his running his campaign for 2 years gives him more experience than Palan’s mayor and governor experience. LOL THE ARROGANCE!
If Hill is not selected as vp, then the Dems might be in the embarrassing position of having to reconvene the convention, at least in virtual form. In regards to the arrogance of political candidates, Sam Stein at Huffington Post says that it looks like Rielle Hunter’s documentary project was an elaborate cover for the affair, which would mean money people were contributing to Edwards’ poverty eradication project was going to fund his affair.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/09/john-edwards-false-assert_n_117925.html
Maybe Barry’s slogan will just be shortened to “audacity”.
Gosh Kat…this is gettin better and better…chuckle….
yup and this woman now wants Privacy when a paternity test is requested. get lost lady. i feel compassion for the baby.
I don’t think it’s his kid. Andrew Young already confessed.
notodisenfranchisement,
Exactly, my thoughts when I saw the Politico article today.
The Repubs will not bring out the truth until after the convention, unfortunately. Perhaps some Democrat will also come up with the truth before it is too late. We can hope.
notodisenfranchisement, your theory makes a lot of sense. I never believe the MSM does something for no reason. Even the timing of the John Edwards problem and the fact that it seemed like a set up, makes you wonder what other thing was behind it. It keeps Obama from having to offer Edwards anything, keeps Edwards from having any influence over Democratic Policy and even keeps him from speaking at the Convention.
Okay, so I’m paranoid. The last 8 years and the Dem primary have made me that way.
That’s two of us…
Edwards in the news also takes Obama’s lack of thought and strategy on the Georgia/Russia situation out of the limelight……..
Hillary won’t be the nominee this time ’round, OK? There’s simply no way that the Democratic leadership will split the party 10 weeks before an election. Barry is still running ahead in the polls, albeit barely. The superdelegates will swallow hard and take their chances with Obama in November rather than permanently alienate one of their key constituencies, namely black Americans. If Obama were to be denied the nomination at this late stage, no matter how good the reason might be, 90% of black Americans would regard it as just another instance of whitey screwing them over. There’s no way they would turn out in significant numbers to vote for Hillary, which would doom her chances against McCain. The same applies to college students, who are strongly for Obama right now.
Nope, you’re stuck with Barry, I’m afraid. So, vote for McCain this year and then for Hillary in 2012.
While I hope that it happens before the Democratic convention, what matters in the end is that the Messiah is going DOWN! And he’s taking his drones with him!
I can’t believe the DNC don’t hear us. We’re roaring as loud as we can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRLBJfVXIQ
OH…They hear…Comrade Howard ( iblobarry ) Dean the UberPutz is sweatin and apparently losing TONS of weight….
Yes this does explain why he looks so badly. However, I maintain that Howard is nothing more at this point than Barack Obama’s Hood Ornament. He no longer has The Power. He has been taken over by the machine.
Yeah….Bbbbut…it’s gotta hurt the UberPutz…being bashed up on so many fronts….Bashed by Barry…Commissar Donna ( behind closed doors )..Lawsuit…PUMAS…His ego has got to be spiralling knowin his fascist plan is imploding and he’ll
be the new face of Traitor/loser….Poetic….chuckle….
not sure… what that was…
they hear US.DNC is going down, with Pelosi,Reid,Richardson,Dodd,Edwards,Reich,Brazzile,and especjaly DEAN!!!
Alleluja!!!
Larry if his BC says soetaro, that would mean he acquired that Hawaii certificate years after he was born–after his mother married Soetaro and soetaro adopted him. After the fact. Then are you saying that he really wasn’t born in Hawaii? Or is this because of the name change/adoption? When people are adopted do they get a new birth certificate? I know when people marry, their last name changes but their original birth certificate doesn’t. So this is all odd to me. Why would somebody get another birth certificate that negates the orginal birth status. Vital statistics don’t change like that. Ok, I’m rambling but this is odd for sure.
I also remember reading that his brother Mark in China was the “only” child of Barack Obama Senior who was not “contested” in the estate. So I am wondering, what exactly does this certficate tell us with respect to this?
The Rockymountain article says
So which came first? He had to be born someplace. That would be where his ORIGINAL certificat resides. Is there ANY certificate anywhere with Obama’s name on it? I mean other than the one at KOS?
Hmmmm…..I’m still puzzled over the big deal Barry made about his very pregnant mommy doin all that travellin’ in his autobiofictional…chuckle…
What worries me to tears is the fact that Obama’s first Cousin, GenocidalDinga is running the Records Show in Kenya - let’s just remember that Obaalzebub went there to ensure an election victory. I mean what’s a little burning, shooting, dousing of the democratic flames when you have secrets to hide?
Think Passport office V.S. Watergate? Not too far behind each other on Twins night Wheel of Fortune, are they?
Then we have msm failing to cover it like Edwards, only - surely, to have their butts handed to them on their Commie Platters (remember they have to eat while STANDING, as they lobby, right B-Iraq?)
He is on a messy - shite-y shingle and slipping fast
My money is on Rudy and his pals…..After the convention Barry is toast
As Larry said, it’s amazing what money can buy when offered to the right low level Kenyan officials who don’t make that much in terms of a salary.
Save his page and the trivia page on IMDB before they get cleaned up. That’s the source for dual citizenship. It is maintained by his people and no one else.
maybe the father was allowed to register him in kenya. he might have thought to use this if he “had” to leave kenya.
Someone said before that the Kenyan constitution made any child of a Kenyan citizen also a citizen.
According to Kenyan law, Barry would have lost his citizenship at age 21 if he didn’t do something affirmative for it.
Because Obama sr was British subject, then Kenyan, he could have been conferred citizenship by birth there too–hence dual citizenship at birth. I have heard the republicans have a Kenyan BC…which would raise questions about his place of birth.
The original sealed Hawaii BC is under the name of BHO; that’s going to indicate a lot of things, like where he was born, hospital, etc.
Kenya will become the focus…but it is a distraction. the indonesian stuff is the smoking gun.
Uppity- read here or Texdarlin- State Of Hawaii requirees new COLB when a child is adopted and that is likely what he has been covering up. Doesn’t mean Sr. wasn’t his father (though very unlikely he and Stanley were married. Friend said she and young baby visited him at Harvard - indicates “daddy’ was not at birth - was long gone.
Point is that Barry went to Indonesia as adopted son of Soetoro- that means he entered that country as an INDONESIAN CITIZEN - another citizenship he has never renounced!
No wonder he calls himself a “Citizen of the World” - seems quite literaly true.Whether legal to be President with multiple citizenships - Americans would NOT want a President with hidden loyalties elsewhere- if only all this REALLY GOES PUBLIC!
Usually, they seal the old birth certificate, at least that is what my adopted friend has told me. It still exists in the files, only no one is allowed to have it. Go figure!
The certificate with the original parents’ names gets hidden away, and a new one is issued with the names of the brand new parent or parents.
Obama, to be Obama again, had to go get a name change–unless there’s some way to “undo” an adoption…and that’s news to me (not that I am an expert on the subject, mind you).
I used to issue birth certs in upstate NY and we if the child is adopted, we would “seal” the original….gluing the new one over the old. But no matter what the original should be in the city, town, Provence the child was born. So if he was not born in Hawaii there should not be one on record there.
Larry THANK YOU for all you do! Unfortunately the Repubs will do nothing until after the convention because they KNOW they will NEVER beat Hillary.
Aaaand which of the 2 hospitals that Barry was born at sealed what….
Well anybody can change their last name. It’s not all that hard. That wouldn’t mean another BC is issued. There is a legal paper that provides proof of original last name and the new last name.
Also, as for adoptions, it would depend on the State. Some states are Open Adoption states (i.e. Kansas) so the records are always there.
As for name changes, that should always be in public records.
Personal question–I have an adopted child, in other words, I’m an adoptive parent, and reside in KS…what do you mean the adoption is OPEN? My name is on the birth certificate. Just curious.
unless he didn’t do an official name change, just took the name he wanted.
Isn’t it true that the adopted child when he becomes 18(?) may unseal his adoption papers in some states.
Mo came out recently saying that Stanley Ann was single when she had BO. On another blog that was explained: Because of the way that the law was written at the time, BO would be a citizen if his mother was single at the time of his birth. Not so if she was married to a Kenyan and only 18 yrs. old at the time.
It was also explained that BO’s mother worked for the the consultate in Indonesia and that she could have filed citizenship papers for BO as having been born out of the country to an American citizen, like she did for Maya.(I may be forgetting exactly how this came down but this is something of the gist of the argument.)
In Australian an adopted Child can apply to the court to have the adoption cancelled on various grounds, ie to inherit the estate of the birth parents, incompatibility with the adoptive parents, reconcilliation with the birth parents etc.
The situation is confusing. Only an order of probate court can change a birth certificate: adoption, name change, sex change etc.. the original on file doesn’t change. But the abstracts issued by the goverment will show only the latest court ordered changes. There is a theory that Obama Sr. made that trip to Hawaii when Barky returned from Indonesia to claim paternity, undo the adoption, whatever. To make things even more confusing is Hawaii’s very lax policy regarding late registrations of births. I assume because home births with midwives were still common, or to allow native citizens giving birth on the mainland to register their children since recording ancestory to the Kingdom of Hawaii is very important culturally. You could see how someone could easily take advantage of the laxed system. Why Barky’s sister Maya has “two” birthdays is clearer since Texas Darling explained the late registration system.
Different states treat these matters differently.
Some states will reflect that later documents have been altered.
I was adopted at birth. Upon adoption my original birth certificate (which has different first name and has my birth mother’s last name) was sealed and a new certificate was issued with the first and last name my adoptive parents gave me. Neither my parents or I have ever seen or had access to the sealed birth certificate.I only know about that because I met my birth mom in my mid twenties.
When you adopt in America, the birth parent or previous parent has to relinquish or otherwise forfeit all parenting rights. I was adopted in 1967.
Back then unplanned pregnancies and adoption under any circumstance had a stigma. Most adopted parents in 1961 passed off their adopted children as their own. Many adoption agencies and homes for unwed mothers encouraged and helped both adoptive parents and birth moms to hide the pregnancy and adoption so they can get on with life after. Also there were strict disclosure laws in the 60’s about keeping a birth parent’s identity anonymous even if the child would later want to find them. Many birth parents remarry and have children but have never told their new family they gave a child up.
BO’s original birth certificate would have been rightly sealed at birth even though the circumstances were different than mine.
JDW -
I don’t follow your logic unless you’re implying that Oblowme was adopted by Stan Dunham.
His sister’s BC was used for the fake, so I still think he has a problem with both place and name.
Various states have various laws regarding privacy and adoptions.
Go back on this list and read story on HOW Barrack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya. Has Kenyan birth certifate for Barrack Obama Jr.
When mother got beck to Hawaii she AMERICANIZED his first name to Barry.
When Barry was 2 year old, mom divorced dad (question as to whether they were married. He alrady marreidn In Keny to Kezia and had a baby girl born 1960. Barry (barrock Obama Jr born 1061 4 Aug.
Mommy marries yet ANOTHER Non-U.S. citazen Muslim Indocian named Lolo Soetoro this time and they leave 1967 for Indonesian. Barry adopted by stepfateher now Barry Soetoro. Enrolled in 2 Indocian schools WITHE REGIATRATION PAPERS saying BARRY SOETORO, A Indoencian citazen and Muslim. Indonecia a Muslmim country. Barry studied Islam and Islamaic laws.
Barry is sent to Hawaii 1971 to live with Hawaii Grandparents. Mom statyed in Indoneias with Barry sister Maya. Mom leaves for Hawaiii 1972 leaving hubby behind and divorces him 1980.
1980 Barry Soetoro decides to call himself after daddy. Barrack Obama Jr is REBORN as the SAVIOR!
Thanks Larry. I said it long time ago, that he has a Kenian citizenship. I know that as far as Kenia is concern , he is Kenian and not a US citizen, because his father was Kenian and it does not matter that his mother was a US citizen.
Since when, in history, has the American public been willing to nominate a presidential candidate who is a citizen of other nations? This is totally beyond my comprehension. Has America gone bonkers!!????
most americans don’t have a clue yet. i can hear the howling now about how we are picking on barfy.
Larry,
Thank you. Today is my Birthday and this news was the very best gift anyone could give me!!!!! I can feel and see things about people that others may not. Obama scares me. I love my freedom as an American. I am not willing to ever give it up for the sake of the Unity of a Political Party. That is why I am a proud PUMA and a Hillary Loyalist that will vote for John McCain!!!!!
http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com
Happy Birthday Val….