Why Obama Must Lose: One Progressive’s Opinion
By Bud White on August 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Bloggers, Current Affairs, DNC, Disenfranchisement, Donna Brazile, Elitism, Florida, Gender Bias, George McGovern, Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary Clinton, Jeremiah Wright, Just Say No Deal, Misogyny, PUMA, Patriotism, Race Card, Sexism, The Denver Group, White Guilt
The Just Say No Deal/PUMA movement is evidence of a deep rift in the Democratic Party, one I believe the polls are not reflecting. Contrary to what the neo-liberals may say, the movement is not comprised of bitter old women — although many are bitter, many are women, and some are perhaps old. Instead, this deepening divide is the classic split of any political organization during a power struggle. The Daley Machine gave way to McGovern; and Goldwater conservatism rebuked Rockefeller’s liberalism.
But this movement has a twist: Obama lacks legitimacy. The continuation of this rift is not about Hillary “losing.” Clintonistas, like myself, know that losing elections and having your heart broken is the inevitable risk of politics. Anglachel writes:
With John Edwards in the news these days, I have been reflecting on the theme of “Two Americas” and have applied a twist that more accurately reflects the two Americas within the Democratic Party - those whose bigotry and biases are excused because they are of the right class and those whose flaws are inexcusable, even when the flaws do not exist.
This “class” split in the Democratic Party is much more than an economic split. As Anglachel suggests, it is evidence of a values divide. These values are not the black-and-white split of abortion. Instead, this divide is a matter of emphasis. Obama talks about access to health care, but he doesn’t offer a universal plan. Obama criticized Hillary for her Iraq War vote, but he wasn’t in the senate to vote. Obama lectures Americans to learn Spanish–an irony not missed by many– a language he doesn’t speak.
But the differences of emphasis were not themselves the deal-breaker. The deal-breaker, I believe, was about Obama’s tactics in the campaign and the Democratic Party’s complete bias and vote-rigging for their chosen candidate. Donna Brazile’s embarrassing performance at the RBC was so transparent in its bias that she became the most visible Obama shill massaging rules for her candidate, all the while lecturing us on rules. Do they really think we’re that stupid?
Clintonistas, and now PUMAs, are revolted by four major issues. This is by no means an all-inclusive list, but includes the followings:
(1) The Democratic Nomination was Stolen
garyinchapelhill writes about Obama’s lack of legitimacy resulting from a stolen nomination:
Obama’s decision to return full voting status to delegates from Michigan and Florida does not make up for the fact that the RBC stole delegates from the uncommitted voters, as well as all write in votes, AND 4 of Hillary’s delegates. Until that travesty is corrected the votes of those delegates can not be considered legitimate.
And Marc Rubin of The Denver Group considers Obama’s current flip flop on Florida and Michigan as a ploy to entice disgusted Democrats into the fold:
Florida and Michigan were one of the earliest examples of how dishonest, two faced underhanded and fraudulent Obama can be, when he claimed in speeches that he stood for “voices being heard” and “every vote must count”, and then clamped his hand over the mouths of almost 3 million voters in Florida and Michigan because he didn’t like what those voices were saying, which was a loud “go home”. And in all likelihood are still saying “go home and will continue to say it. Clinton beat him by landslide numbers in both states and this little act of political self preservation isn’t going to fool anyone. Anyone, even an Obama supporter can see it’s nothing more than another cynical political ploy to try and win back voters who were disgusted with him a long time ago because he needs them now.
(2) Obama Race-Baited the Clintons
Obama’s race speech was compared to Lincoln by his sycophants in the media. It was closer to Nixon’s infamous “Checkers” speech, a disingenuous, hateful piece of sophistry created to dove-tail with white liberal guilt. The conflation of Jeremiah Wright’s homicidal racism with Geraldine Ferraro’s simple observation was only the most glaring evidence of Obama’s tactics. Anglachel points out that Obama’s demonizing of low income whites was a basic political calculation:
working class voters are not the socio-economic slice of the “white” vote that votes Republican. They are the least likely portion of white voters to do so, which is part of what made the constant slamming of this group so infuriating during the primaries. This was the slice of the white demographic most likely to vote for Hillary, and that was the reason they were being singled out for shaming and insults.
And Alegre puts her finger on why PUMAs find Obama unacceptable:
I think I can speak for millions of Hillary’s 18 millions supporters when I say that Camp Obama stepped over a serious line when they tarred the Clintons as racists in the lead-up to the SC primary (and since). Those attacks were simply unforgivable and may be a big reason (among many!) why many of us won’t get on that unity pony of Howie’s.
(3) Obama Attacked Hillary from the Right
Attacking Hillary from the Right was not by itself a deal-breaker. But the fact that Obama went after Hillary on health care — after everything she had fought for in the 1990s — was a disgraceful appropriation of Right Wing tactics and talking points. As SusanUnPC writes:
The sad reality, of course, is that Obama has no fealty to commitments over issues. Issues are merely fodder to be used to grab what he seeks above all else: Victory…Now, every politician has to be focused on winning. But most politicians have some issues about which they genuinely care and are knowledgeable about. Obama doesn’t seem to hold any issues dear.
(4) The Democratic Party Rejects Racism, Embraces Sexism
Democratic Party leaders and Obama supporters stayed silent while egregious misogyny was leveled against Mrs. Clinton. As feminist blogger Violet Socks said to me, the silence from our “brothers” on the Left regarding this sexism has been one of the most disappointing political events in the annals of progressivism. So we must have an accounting, and a defeat. There are worse things than losing elections, and I believe we have just witnessed them during the primaries. Obama’s use of sexist stereotypes against Hillary gave cultural permission for the venom against Hillary. It was outside the realm of acceptable behavior for a Democratic politician, and must be vehemently rejected. Voting for Obama is condoning tactics which are anathema to why we are Democrats in the first place.
Lynette Long writes:
I am not Lolita. I will not crawl back into bed with a party that raped me. I will not stay in an abusive relationship because I have nowhere else to go. I will not be placated by a pat on the head or a worthless trinket. I will not spend the rest of my life waiting for tomorrow or listening to people tell me that today is better than yesterday.
Defeat is Good
Just as Barry Goldwater’s defeat by Johnson in 1964 was considered the end of the conservative movement, Obama’s victory is seen by the neo-liberals as a rejection of third-way progressivism. However, the PUMA movement is not an end but a beginning. It’s not the continuation of Bill Clinton’s moderate policies, but a movement of dedicated progressives who embraced Mrs. Clinton’s far more bold agenda, an agenda more analogues to FDR than Bill Clinton, and one which is much more progressive than Obama’s. Our nascent movement parallels the rise of the conservative movement:
All the pundits saw the size of Goldwater’s defeat. Almost none grasped the implications of the fact that the Goldwater campaign had twice as many volunteers as Johnson’s — or that while 66,000 people donated to the Kennedy and Nixon campaigns of 1960, over a million gave to Barry Goldwater in 1964. Among other things [it is an] account of how a rebellious and at first marginal political faction moved toward power reminds us of the dynamic character of politics and the dangers of static analysis
I am a Democrat because I believe in universal health care, because I despise racism, race-baiting, and sexism, and because I believe in the democratic process. On all these counts, our Party has failed us. We must rid our Party of race-baiting, sexism, and vote stealing, and return our Party to its glorious heritage of patriotism, equal opportunity, and care for the most vulnerable.
Thanks to Medusa for her help with this essay.
I am an American because I have a belief in a democracy for everyone, and that country comes before any Party. Ameria was founded on the basis of one person, one voice and to be free of the oppressors.
Well we have seen through the media and the DNP that oppression is alive and well in America and that the value system projected in America by a certain Party is not one of judgement of a persons charater, but the color of his skin.
The true foundations of America that many, een those Obama saw the ghosts of fought for our ability to think and to stand up for values close to our own, not to almost daily shrug off the pathological lies of a potential leader as justification of a new begining in America, one the pathological liars wife claims he has the ability to save our souls, as in the bible, a liar is the one who always leads the followers down the road of dispare and towards a life of misery.
It is a mockey that so many brave soldiers gave of their lives so that today, a potential POTUS can be as easily marketed as a K-Tel slice-o-matic.
great comment!
Most appreciated.
OMG, great comment. You sound like pastor manning.
Pastor Manning is MLK’s avenging angel….and although I don’t always agree with the righteous preacher….He is brave and a Righteous Preacherman…
Growing up in the buckle O’ the bible belt….chuckle…I have a pretty high standard for hell fire and brimstone….and Pastor Manning is classic
Bravo!!! What a thoughtful and thorough appraisal of the current situation. That the Democrats deserve to loose this election is more than evident. That Obama should loose is essential to our survival.
Obama shifts Affirmative Action rhetoric -
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080810/pl_politico/12421
Obama must lose. And PUMAs must stand together beyond the elections in November. Never again can we let sexism rule in the media. I see PUMA movement growing stronger through the years. Stand strong and fight for what we believe in. The DNC has awoken a sleeping giant. WE ARE THE PEOPLE!
Along with Dean, Sor’s, and all the others who’ve hijacked the Party.
I always enjoy Bud Whites writings. He seems to put into words what I feel. Defeat in 08 with BO will be a good thing in the long run. Let’s take our party back.
Cheers! thank you
Excellent Bud…know by your site you have been busy at home…Always enjoy your analysis….Thanks. Keep up the Good Fight. NQ Rocks.
Even if Hillary is on the ticket there is no way that I can vote for these New Democrats after what they have shown me.
How can anyone vote for a party that uses the same thug tactics that would make Hugo Chavez happy.
It’s seems that these New democrats are proud of their communist Marxist socialist background and desire that form of government for all of us.
On one level I agree with you Moss and would love Hillary to start a third party movement with the democratic values mentioned above in Charlie’s excellent article.
But if by some honest miracle she becomes nominated at the convention for POTUS candidate I will vote for her in a heart beat knowing that the party could be healed from within.
Otherwise PUMA will be my voice from here on in.
I can agree with that!
If Hillary is the nominee I will certainly vote for her with the gusto of support I have shown her all along.
Sorry I meant Bud’s super article.
Rose I have been thinking about this lately. I am seriously hoping that even after Nov 4th Puma efforts do not stop.
I have never witnessed such blatant disregard for constiuents as I have seen the last three months. This goes from Donna Brazille making the comment about where else do they have to …to Howard Dean saying a few days after the last primary they need to get over it. I am a constiuent and these hacks work for me.
I know I have said this a few times before…..there is a silent dissention from the rank and file Democrats. These folks are not PUMA members. They don’t do the blogs. But somewhere in their inner self they know the party was victimized by a smooth operating machine that had a serious game plan from day one. I just have to look at family and friends who are staunch Dems and hear them rebuff voting for Barry to know this.
I think the facts out there speak for Themselves, barry has never won a real race for a seat in Government. He was groomed from day one to take it at all costs. Whether it be having peeps tossed from the ballot to basically running uncontested as he pretty much was for US Senate. Alan Keyes was a last ditch effort by the GOP that they knew wasn’t going to win.
The point I am getting at is there is more work needs to be done. After the dust settles Nov 5th we need to keep fighting for ourselves and the future of the Dem Party. If that doesn’t work we may be strong enough to become that third party so many have been wishing for in years gone by.
Puma is clearly a thorn in Dean and Brazilles side, I say we need to keep sticking it to them.
Just my thoughts.
PUMA!
In agreemenmt… Even after Nov…; NO matter what that outcome, the PUMA movement must stay active and loud and IN THEIR FACE!
I WON’T VOTE DEMOCRATIC AGAIN, EVEN IF HILLARY IS THE NOMINEE! THESE DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON, AND THAT LESSON WILL BE 4 YEARS OF JOHN MCCAIN!
EVEN IF HILLARY GETS HER RIGHTFUL NOMINATION AT THE CONVENTION, AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME I WILL STILL VOTE MCCAIN, BECAUSE ALL DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON!
THE ONLY WAY I WON’T VOTE MCCAIN IS IF HILLARY RUNS AS A THIRD PARTY!
NOBAMA!
Hey Puma’s when you have a quick minute please leave some comments about this video.
I know you NoQuarter Puma’s will love those who haven’t seen it
Will let the video speak for itself
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LOL! A Double RICK ROLL! Obama and Rick ashley team up to Rick roll you! How appropriate.
Very good and clever!
Excellent article and dead on. If Obama gets elected, you can bet your ass that every politican from now on will use race as a central theme in there campaign.
furthermore, Obama supporters not only were silent, they JOINED in on the choir that was attacking, yes thats right, ATTACKING Hillary on stupid shit, then turning around and saying, “lets talk about the issues”. They are hypocrits out and out.
I promise you this is the end of the road for the DNC if Obama gets elected. If you are white and in the DNC, you better get the hell out. Mark my words, this will happen. Obama with his race baiting has effectively segregated the DNC.
A gem of a well written article. Thank you for articulating so beautifully what so many of us believe.
I am so glad this site exists—!
You and me both..mk125….I love this fringe I’m clinging to…I can laugh and learn at the same time….These folks are smart and the best Troll Spankers I’ve ever seen….chuckle….
Here here on that! I’d be a raving maniac lost on the internet if it hadn’t been for NQ. Thanks, Larry, Susan, Amy, Ani, Lisa, Uppity Woman, Charles and Texas Darlin and anyone I missed for the good articles, well written logical sarcastic and funny. WE LOVE YOU GUYS!!
“Bitter old women” are the backbone of the party.
Who else does the shitwork of working the phones, while the young men wile away the hours blogging?
Clinton vs. McCain match up in the general election would be such a powerful referendum. Both are proven, dedicated public servants. Both have a history of accomplishments and bi-partisanship solutions. Both operate from deeply- held core values and principals. Their differences lay in their perspective. Their ideology. Left of center. Right of center. It would be amazing to see how the populace votes. I think ultimately it scared both party leaders. The only difference is the right-wingers couldn’t scam and defraud their primaries.
Could you imagine if they joined tickets. Now thats some pi-partisan heaven right there. THAT is true unity and THAT is the new face of politics.
I would like that also!
I am so tired of America being divided because of stupid party loyalty. We basically really all want the same thing- that the congress works for US, do the job they’re elected (not selected)to do and learn to compromise.
I also want a full fledge attack on corporations control and influence over the MSM, DRUGS, OIL, food, etc., etc.
Lynette Long writes:
“I am not Lolita. I will not crawl back into bed with a party that raped me. I will not stay in an abusive relationship because I have nowhere else to go. I will not be placated by a pat on the head or a worthless trinket. I will not spend the rest of my life waiting for tomorrow or listening to people tell me that today is better than yesterday.”
This statement captures the very essence of how I have felt since the RBC debacle. The DNC elite crossed a line that day, among many others, that I do not believe I can ever forgive and forget. Maybe in my next lifetime but not this one.
Thanks, Bud White and Medusa! As usual your hard work is spot on.
“(4) The Democrat Party Rejects Racism, Embraces Sexism.”
It’s Democratic Party. “Democrat Party” is a common slight used by right-wingers.
That was my mistake and not intended. I’ll fix it now. Thanks for pointing it out.
Given the way Obama and the Democrats attacked Hillary using much of the same RIGHT-WING talking points (especially on health care), I don’t see much of a problem with the use of “Democrat Party”.
Oustanding, Bud! And Right On!
Bud: Great piece. It is so good to see you posting here post TM.
I would have to disagree that Obama must lose.
First, it’s not a fact that Obama is the machiavellian mastermind behind “stealing” the nomination; first, it’s not even a fact that the nomination was stolen (apportioning the votes in the most favorable manner for Clinton still gives Obama a lead), and second, it assigns Obama far too much credit. Both campaigns (yes, even Clinton’s) signed on the the initial agreement that would have stripped MI and FL of all their delegates comepletely, and both campaigns thereafter set out to game the delegate assignment after the fact. If there was a problem with MI and FL, it was at the outset, with the state officials deciding to delegitimize their own voting.
As for the race-baiting and sexism charges, I would have to agree that the tone of the primary wasn’t up to snuff - however, that’s again true on both sides. But, to attack Obama’s race speech as hateful is really confusing. I didn’t hear anything “hateful” - certainly, he choose some unflattering things to say about unconscious rascism, but a central point of his speech was that he doesn’t asign blame for that sort of behaviour - when he specifically noted that the “racist” backlash against, say, AA, was not from the elites and upper class, but from people of a lower class but not black - that was an exceedingly honest appraisal of the program. And it removes not only the stain of “racism” from those who oppose AA on ideological grounds (because the opposition is rooted in class, not race), but removes it from those who oppose it on personal grounds. Essentially, he recast opposition to AA in entirely ideological terms. The entire speech was like that - trying to defuse scurrilous charges of overt racism from the environment while noting that it can still appear covertly. At any rate, suggesting that it’s Obama who’s actually racist seems strange, to me - I’m not sure how you can justify that.
While I see charges of sexism in the media and I agree completely - the coverage of Clinton was incredibly sexist - I saw very little of that coming from the Obama campaign, aside from the one very public firing after the “monster” comment; but then Ferraro’s comments garnered the same response, so although the tone of the primary wasn’t as good as I might have liked, I do and did note that the actual campaigns themselves held a reasonably high standard. Basically, if you can call Obama sexist for his campaign’s conduct, then Clinton was racist by the same standard, but I think both charges are ridiculous.
Finally, for the “defeat is good” idea - defeat in 2008 would mean that John McCain becomes president, and four more years of George Bush’s policies, only enacted by a meaner man with even less empathy for the people and decades of lobbyists and special interests having bought and paid for him a long time ago - in addition to the fact that he has no core principle aside from self-aggrandisement - would be an utter disaster. Whatever you might say about Obama, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - he can say or do that would ruin America in the way McCain would.
I understand that a lot of people here have the idea that Obama is just an “empty suit”, or that he’s not an empty suit, but rather a soulless political calculator, or that he’s not either, but rather a naive waif with no idea how to run a country, or perhaps the fourth option, that he’s a sinister Manchurian canadidate based on the COLB situation - but all of these perceptions seem to be fairly contradictory - while Obama certainly has elements of all four (except perhaps the Manchurian candidate part, given that the evidence in favor is pretty slim), there’s also a lot of good about him that simply isn’t given credit on this site.
NICE TRY, “ANDREW.” OR SHOULD I SAY, OBAMA! WE KNOW THAT’S YOU, BARACK, SECRETLY DEFENDING YOURSELF FROM YOUR ELITIST VACATION SPOT HAWIAI!
I REJECT YOUR “ANALISIS” OF THE SITUATION. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU AND YOUR CAMPANE ARE LIARS AND RACE BAITERS.
IF YOU HAD ANY DECENCY AT ALL, YOU WOULD JUST STAY IN HAWIAI AND NOT COME BACK AND LET THE REAL QUALIFIED CANDIDATE TAKE HER RIGHTFUL NOMINATION!
Hillaryfan2012,
I’m usually not one to nitpick about spelling and grammar, but in the case of your posting, I just HAD to speak out. Please see http://www.spellingfordummies.com for further assistance.
Yours, Uppity Troll
Go away bots. You can’t handle the truth.
HAHA YOU ARE VERY FUNNY TO MOCK SOMEBODYS SPELLING. BUT WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW IS THAT I AM A 66 YEAR OLD WOMAN WHO IS HANDICAPPED AND CAN’T LIFT HER ARMS ENOUGH TO GET THE DICTIONARY.
SO JUST CONTINUE BEING SMUG LIKE ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS BUT JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE MOCKING A DISABLED WOMAN WHO JUST LOVES HILLARY AND WANTS TO BE GIVEN RESPECT LIKE THE 18 MILLION OTHER WOMEN WHO VOTED FOR HER!
BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow
Bet your no soooooo proud of yourself.. WTF douse it mattor if peopel cannot spell
YOU PUNK!!
You fuc**** nick picked once 2 often :
I just had to speak out!
Hey, Somebody is stealing my name. I’m Andrew. Obama must lose.
I can read typobese very well…more to the point..she’s RIGHT!
here’s a little skit for you - replacing the word RACE with TALL
candidate - blah, blah, blah, blah did I mention I am tall? Blah, blah, blah, blah and I’m tall, blah blah, but don’t let them scare you about TALL people. You know what they SAY about TALL PEOPLE and did I mention I am tall?
(after the show)
viewer 1 - damn he can go on and I don’t CARE if he’s tall
viewer 2 - damn he can go ON, so do you think he’s TOO TALL?
viewer 3 - damn tall ass freak!
(had he never mentioned being TALL)
viewer 1 - damn he can go on
viewer 2 - damn that was almost too long, something looked funny
viewer 3 - damn tall ass freak sure can go ON!
lol
Thoughtful comments, Andrew, but this is a website where critical thinking is not welcome, haven’t you heard? It’s a cult that doesn’t know it’s a cult, the true markings of a, well, cult. Thanks for trying though, “troll.”
WHATEVER! WE ALL KNOW THAT OBAMA AND HIS ROBOTS ARE THE TRUE CULT!
ALL OBAMA VOTERS ARE JUST DRUGGED OUT COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO WON’T SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY OR MINORITEES WHO DON’T VOTE IN LARGE NUMBERS EITHER!
THE REAL DEMOCRATS WHO TURN OUT TO VOTE (I.E. PROUD LADIES OVER 55 LIKE ME) ARE ALL GOING TO VOTE MCCAIN OR WRITE IN HILLARY’S NAME!
ODOR-BAMA WILL LOSE IN A LANDSLIDE!
“ALL OBAMA VOTERS ARE JUST DRUGGED OUT COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO WON’T SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY OR MINORITEES WHO DON’T VOTE IN LARGE NUMBERS EITHER”
Way to make sweeping stereotypes and racist assumptions about Obama supporters, you poor, bitter old disabled illiterate inbred. (See, I can do it, too.)I bet you have a Harriet Christian poster over your bed.
well I sure as god hope she don’t have your poster over her bed
The only thing a picture of u would be good for is dart practice!
HARRIET CHRISTIAN IS A TRUE AMERICAN UNLIKE THE FRUAD OBAMA WHO IS A CITIZEN OF KENYA AND INDONESIA BUT NOT ACTUALLY AMERICA!
DON’T TRY TO PLAY THE RACE CARD, JUST BECAUSE I’M WHITE AND I DON’T TRUST OBAMA OR PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE OBAMA!
IT’S NOT RACIST TO DISLIKE SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY LOOK! I DON’T CARE THAT OBAMA IS BLACK - IF HE HAD WHITE SKIN I WOULD STILL DISLIKE HIM BECAUSE HE JUST LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY AND WOULD PROBABLY BE LAZY AND GET NOTHING DONE!
SO THERE! THAT PROVES I’M OBVIOUSLY NOT RACIST BECAUSE I WOULD STILL DISLIKE OBAMA IF HE WAS WHITE AND WOULD STILL LIKE HILLARY IF SHE WAS BLACK!
I just came to this site after watching “Hardball” , read a bit , and I have yet to collect my breath.
What’s with all the hate? Y’all might consider getting down from that high horse you’re on , and think a moment.
Do you really want to destroy the Democratic Party?
Do you really want more war , more debt , more “unitary executive” actions , more lobbyists writing legislation , more Supreme Court judges from the Federalist Society?
I won’t attempt to characterize the motives of the persons leading this group , but I will ask you who are giving them creedence to stop and think.
1. If you’re watching Softball with Chrissy Matthews, you’re part of the problem.
2. For the last time obamatron, we do not hate the False Messiah, we just think he’s as unfit for office as your are for posting here.
3. That isn’t a high horse–you’re just in a hole looking up, sphincter-puss.
4. Our motives, unlike yours, are in keeping with the good of the US and not just some left-wing faction.
5. You can leave through the same door you used to barge in here.
Nice try, but he’s not qualified for the job. You can spin him all day, but the fact remains that people do not trust him to lead. It’s that simple.
I know a typical Chicago pol when I smell him. The only difference between him and the rest is that he had the arrogance to run for president with little to back him up and much working against him.
Hillary ‘08, it’s a must.
Click here to cancel reply……….*CLICK*
“A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’
merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.”
— Mohandas Gandhi
Boy how many times is this statement by Axelrod going to be spread over the net today, it is the same one with minor adjustments that has been out there since June.
Andrew, a challenge for you, you claim there is lots good about Bambi not mentioned on here, list 10 ligitimate ones on your own and not from Axelrod’s handbook ok, feel free to do so instead of making generalized statements!
Yes ANDREW we DARE you to come up with, heck I’ll make it easy for you bot- Come up with ONE original good thing or policy of the O-hole.
You lost us at “four more years of McCain would continue Bush’s policies.” That tells me right there you didn’t bother to even look at McCains website. That is a “my mind is a blank” statement. FAIL
there’s also a lot of good about him [BO]that simply isn’t given credit on this site.
And I don’t see you raising any “good about him” points.
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Bud well done. I would like to add a #5.
The DNC went out of it’s way to stifle dissenting opinion, which is exemplified by the lack of vetting BO as a candidate and overt tactics in suppressing the facts.
For that reason alone BO and will be a looser. After the Bush Admin, one would expect the Dems to let the sunshine in, but instead we get ???
This not the box of Chocolate I knew!!
On my bumper I have “the end of an error”(Bush) and right next to it “person who is not falling for BO’s line of crap” For some reason people are honking at me now.
What does that say about where myself and perhaps some others are? Am I alone in this form of alienation that BO as per his post in an 2004 Dkrap, outlined?
Oh please do tell, what are those things
if you say any things about speechs I will scream
Obamabots try to link McCain to Bush every chance they get. I think Obama is a lot closer to Pelosi than McCain to Bush.
I am not an Amercian and live outside your country but I admire Senator Clinton greatly and is sadden by the way she was defeated. I have a close relative who is a citizen of the USA and I have asked her not to vote for Obama because of all the things I have read about him.I was very engrossed in this election that everyday I check and read this blogg and a few others but this one is my favourite . I listen to the call in programme on Noquarter radio.Please do not give up stand up for your principles.
ditto
Incredible analysis Mr White. I agree with you 100 %. I will never vote for the corrupt, unpatriotic, appalling, know nothing, narcissist, and illegitimate candidate Barak Obama. He is scary, his mentors are even more scary and he will bring American down even further than W. I feel sorry for Hillary for having to kiss his behind at any level when she, Big Dawg, and millions of American voters know he is bad- no toxic for the country.
Hillary 08, if not,
McCain 08
Ditto! It is time to either take back our party from these people or form our own AMERICAN party!
I also agree Bud.
We must also rid our Party of Senators who funnel tax payer money to slumlord friends such as Tony Rezko, Allison Davis, Valerie Jarrett and Cecil Butler.
Andrew–thank you for that LONG and insightful commentary–you have me convinced–I need to vote for Senator Obama. What was I thinking (?), thank you for taking the time to set the record straight.
Oh please, there are plenty of sites we can go to that extol the virtues of Senator Obama–however, since we would rather not–we come to No Quarter! Wait-forget the websites, all we have to do is turn on the MSM. That said, for those of us who do not support Senator Obama–please go away, you are wasting our time.
Remember, Larry called it well when he said Barry suffers from what Freud called “projecting”…and more. :
It is true.
Obama is the angry, bitter, cynical fellow. Obama is the one who says anything to win a campaign. Obama is the untruthful person. And because of his elitism and attitude, he atracts the like and the “me” society who wants everything magically fixed FOR THEM, so again, they don’t have to accept responsibility, it was the other persons fault. Yeah right.
And that same attitude I received again myself lastnight. A popular Dentist in our area, who is heralded as a progressive activist and has quite the extensive email list obviously doesn’t practice what he preaches. When he’s not trying to put on airs, his true self comes out.
When he talks of democracy, freedoms, etc, he means apparently only what he sees it as. When he pushes Greens, instead of just Dem’s, he meant only HIS choice. He doesn’t send out shared emails on environmental issues, maybe because it might interfere with a candidate he’s pushing. But lastnight became clear his disguise. I sent only the 2nd anti Obama email to him, it was the Native Americans Against Obama and that’s all the email contained, two short lines of introduction with the link. He responded with “f@ck you”. Auh yes, the true temperament of a debout Obamabot. If his list only knew of his bias and filtering of news, I’m sure would change his standing. Maybe that’s why he send me about 3 or 4 more emails after that.
Me thinks these folks would be a lot happier and less angry if they joined the rest of us in the REAL world.
“From the Los Angeles Times
Obama partisans block Clinton faction bid to end caucuses”:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-080908-caucus-clinton-obama,0,3234587.story
Damn.
Well considering Chicago politics and the reason those who like caucuses is because they can not organize or operate without thuggery, and bully tactics. It’s a testosterone thing I think.
Testosterone is proof of evolution. An intelligent creator would have made sure that no indispensable reproductive hormone would have so many bad side effects on the brain.
GOOD for that LAST woman!! The Delegate?
Good for her! I hope a LOT more stand their GROUND and don’t cower to THUGS of Odrama!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12420.html
Outstanding, Bud. That about sums it up. Do they think they can order us to sit down, shut up and get over it? I don’t think so. My thanks to you and all the bloggers who have articulated the reasons for PUMA.
Excellent essay. You’ve summed it up in a very direct and concise way. And for Obamatrons who believe that cheering crowds can make a loser a winner. Read the history. Mondale turned out crowds in record numbers. His loss was legendary.
Sometimes I feel I’ve woken up to another time and place inthis country where propaganda is the rule not the exception. The MSM is a huge propaganda machine for Obama (w/ maybe the exceptionof Fox). The DNC hijacking of the nomination by selecting their nominee was not a democratic process. I thought this was a democracy? What has happened to this country? Where is real objective reporting? where is real democracy? We invade a country, we spread propaganda, no democracy and we have the right to criticize Russia?
This country has no credibility!
If the Democrat Party wishes to restore its true principals by selecting Clinton in Denver they will have a chance. If they do not the Party will become an American Icon of Racial and Sexist Discord. I have been turned off. I don’t believe I will ever be turned back for them. It would take a Public Apology on every network and the resignation of Dean, Pelosi, Obama and Brazille. They destroyed a legacey of belief they were the party for middle working class America. They WERE OUR VOICE….. NOW WE HAVE FOUND OUR OWN AND FOR THAT I SAY THANK YOU, I AM PROUD TO BE A PUMA AND PROUD TO NOW STAND UP AND SAY ELECT JOHN MCCAIN HE IS HAS PUT HIS COUNTRY FIRST AND WILL PROTECT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM LOST TO MAN WHO VERY WELL COULD BE A COMMUNIST OR ISLAMIC MOLE. NO THANK YOU TO OBAMA.
Very great comment…………..
What bothers me worst is that Obama (and Pelosi) are giving environmentalism a bad name. I’m pretty latte (on a herb tea budget), I’m against offshore drilling etc, I think someone who grew up in a multi-cultural out of US environment would have a great perspective — but Obama is trashing all that with his cheating and destructiveness and cruelty. And we’ve got to clean out the DNC.
I hope my vote against Obama won’t be taken as endorsement of the Harley flag gang. If the race isn’t close in my state, maybe I should vote Green.
Thank you for your insight Bud. I was trying to read all the “Pearl Harbor” posts, but a lot of it seemed repetitive after awhile.
A few thoughts this Sunday afternoon.
Who vetted candidate Barack Obama? Surely someone in the Dummies leadership knew there would be questions. They have paid political analysts and researchers to “dig” up all the information that could possibly be harmful to the candidates. As been pointed out by many, the Republicans would do an effective job of finding that information out. Better to be on the offensive than defensive side of any issues the Republicans would bring forth.
If the claims turn out to be true regarding his citizenship or birth certificate, then I believe the right thing to do for the Dummies is for the leadership to step down. It isn’t just a matter of removing Barack Obama, but also the people most responsible for betraying Democratic voters across this country.
For the Republicans, I do not believe they’re obligated to release this information. If the Dummies leadership put forth a candidate that was ineligible, it behooves them to bring the information forth. In not doing so, they will forever tarnish the Democratic Party. Also