The A.P. Confirms That Photo Is Authentic
By Matthew Weaver on August 15, 2008 at 6:00 AM in Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro
Yesterday, we published “Photo Documents Barry Soetoro: Indonesian Citizen, Muslim Religion.” One of our readers, who also has a blog, wrote to the Associated Press and received this confirmation:
From: Lutts, Matthew [mailto: [email address removed]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 15:39
To: matthew [email address partially removed]
Subject: FW: Can you confirm if this is a real AP photo?
Hello Matthew,
Yes, the image is legit.
BELOW is Matthew’s copy of the image, and his e-mail inquiry to the Associated Press:
From: Matthew J. Weaver [mailto:matthew@-----------]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:15 PM
To: WWP - AP Images General Email; APD - Permissions
Subject: Can you confirm if this is a real AP photo?
Hi,
There is a photo with caption “AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana” posted at daylife.com that may or may not be an AP photo.
Text with this states: “18 months ago: This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)”
The image is at my site.
Can you please confirm if this is legit?
Thanks,
Matthew
I say we deport the little prig.
Ok, contact Media and the authorities and send them the link:
Fair Media:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111
Congress site for Local Media:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/
CIA Contact page:
https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia/index.html
FBI Contact (find your local FBI)
http://www.fbi.gov/
Seriously?
Johnny Mac: No Teleprompter, No Problem
http://tiny.cc/Pif0j
McCain speaking extemporaneously without making major gaffes . . . that will be difficult. Recently, he has been doing better, I am sure he is getting serious coaching regarding staying on message. He quickly removes himself from reporters now. The real trick will be for him to contain his temper; and I say this will all seriousness, without medication to mellow him out, it is very risky.
Luckily for him, he will not get questions about his mysogyny and lack of respect for his own wife (”Miss Buffalo Chip”?) outrageous
It’s all relative. McCain’s gaffes are not nearly so devastating as Barky’s, especially since all the bots are sure Oblahblah is the Messiah. They put him on that pedestal and fall off it he will.
why don’t you put your dirtiest sock in your mouth. i am sure it smells sweeter than the crap you write.
Just sent a message to ALL of them. Took a while but someone has got to break this open!
Does anyone know if any US President, or any presidential candidate even, has gone by two names?
I can just see it on “Jeopardy”:
I’ll take Presidential Aliases, Alex, for $400.
Bill Clinton.
Gerald R. Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr.
Did either of these try to keep their other names out of public domain?
Gerald Ford made no attempts to hide his birth name nor his adopted name. He was pretty transparent about his background. This is from his official web page:
Gerald Ford Historical Photographs, 1913 -1914
(with some earlier photographs of his mother)
President Gerald R. Ford was the son of Leslie Lynch King and his wife Dorothy Ayer Gardner, who divorced soon after the birth of their only child. Their son was known as Leslie Lynch King, Jr., until his mother married Gerald R. Ford, Sr. in 1916, after which he went by the name Gerald R. Ford, Jr.
Smells like McGovern:
SCORE!!
You made me laugh until - well my ass is still very much here, but too friggin funny!
Oblowme AKA ‘08!
I’ll take Hoaxes for $500 Alex.
You’re so competitve Uppity! Always upping the ante. You and that boxing kitty with the 1 - 2 punch.
It isn’t fair. I may become a victim for Oblowme voter.
Your remaining categories are:
Charletans
Convicted Felons and Terrorists.
Sorry - make that competitive and Charlatans
for $600.
If his step-father registered him, he most likely would put his name surname and religion
Barack Obama School Life in Indonesia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqIT35lUMvU
Watch this video. The document…in person.
Clinton adviser to CNN: it was the PUMAs, not us asking for nomination
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/it-was-the-puma-not-hill/
Hillary is walking a very fine line between the party and her supporters. I sure hope she has a grand plan, because she is risking alienating some of her base. 18 million people fell in love and trusted the “This one is for you” Hillary the true LEADER. Not so much with Hillary the skilled politican. Regardless, Hillary is a dedicated public servant. But I want her to be a LEADER, and to be a leader in this country you need a strong base.
If you can’t discern between public rhetoric to appease the DNC and her real views that is something you need to research. She isn’t alienating her base. She’s appeasing the public image of the Democratic Party for the DNC.
She negotiated her ballot access for her appeasement.
Hillary Clinton will try to save the Democratic Party, not to destroy it.
There is a saying that doesn’t sound so good in English, but I try: ‘Even if she is drunk, she is our mother, even if she is bad, she is our Homeland’
Her home is the Democratic Party.
It is up to us to prove Obama ineligible. I would like you to remember what so many of us said:
“Thank you Hillary, we will take it from here!”
“Thank you Hillary, we will take it from here!”
Good point jadwiga.
We are moving parallel, but separate from Hillary. She is operating in her sphere, which involves pressures and insights that we are not aware of, and we are doing what we need to do.
Keep up the pressure PUMAS!
Well said…”we’ll take it from here”!
OT…Hannity on FoxNews is doing a special
on both Sen. McCain and Obama on Monday and Tuesday evening. Topic being “things in their background that voters maybe unaware
of including deals from the past and associ-
ates”.
Anybody who believes what that guy Hannity and his buddy are saying, ought to check out the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus! FOX giving an unbiased report?
Hardly likely.
Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck . . . make my skin crawl. They are the very definition of “yellow journalism”
Journalism that exploits, distorts, or exaggerates the news to create sensations and attract readers.
So you must dislike Rachel Madcow, too, if being consistent is important to you.
i see the obambi campaign has changed their talking points. hmm they are still stupid.
Somehow I don’t believe that Hannity’s presentation is going to be fair and balanced.
The GOOD doctor wanger:
He goes to confession doesn’t that ensure that he only reports the truth:-)
Stop the hate!
No, it only means that he has sins to confess.
Hi Donna!
Yes it was Donna Brazillenut who said she may need to destroy the democratic party to save it.
Well, Brazile has certainly succeeded in destroying the Party.
Donna Brazilenut has certainly destroyed the Democratic Party and God knows she is not the one to fix it. Perhaps us disenfranchised Democrats should start a new REAL Democrats Party.
I hope Donna holds true to her statement that she would cast her vote for Hillary if that would make us happy.
“Brazillenut” Heh heh
Is the nut still employed at CNN? I thought she should have been fired by now.
This is the way I feel. It’s up to us from here on in. And I mean in every way.
This is why I stopped watching the msm, reading print media, canceling subscriptions to msm who are in the tank for 0bama and openly helped to destroy Hillary’s candidacy.
I will never buy the NYTimes again until Dowd and the rest of that ilk who have printed blatant attacts and offensive articles. They’ve hidden the truth and deliberately ignored info such 0bama’s lies and inconsistencies.
I also will not watch the Convention, unless there is tangible proof that there might be an upset causing 0bama to withdraw. Otherwise, they’re on their own.
I want the Democratic Party and their pathetic leadership to understand that I am serious. I will not support the Democratic ticket if 0bama is the nominee and that is non-negotiable. I don’t care who he picks as his VP. I hope it’s not Hillary for her sake, not mine, because if she’s the veep choice, sorry, but they’ll have to:
WIN WITHOUT ME!
The Party has to be destroyed and rebuilt. It it is not, then I will be joining with those who want to get a Third Party started. I will never forget or forgive what they did this Primary Season.
NEVER!!!
Same here Mimi.
Ditto!
Same here.
PUMA
If you can’t discern between public rhetoric to appease the DNC and her real views that is something you need to research.
So… we can’t trust the words coming out of her mouth? I thought so, Tyrione. I always thought so.
But you trust the words coming out of Barack?Barry Obama?Soetoro’s purple mouth?
Oh my, Chandler, your slip is showing, if you know what I mean.
“She’s appeasing the public image of the Democratic Party for the DNC.”
Aren’t you HRC supporters against that? How can you continue to support a woman who is aiding and abetting the DNC? THE DNC!!! She’s doing Donna Braziles bidding!!! Yeeeecchhh!!
She gave her word that she would support soeBOBO. It’s refreshing to see someone keep their word on the dem side of the house.
The GOOD doctor wanger:
And the One said to the apostle wanger, before this night is three you will deny me three times.
Sound familiar!
Stop the hate!
No it doesn’t sound familiar, Donna. I never heard of the Apostle Wanger. Is he pictured at the Last Supper?
I suppose all you need is a name tag and a mirror
May be it is the party loyalty, or may be something else totally sinister. I don’t put any thing beyond the Obama campain. There is no reason on earth not to see his flowed candidancy, there is no reason for any one with an ounce of decency not to be repugnant with MSM selecting him and covering for him which negates their presance to begin with. There is no reason for a party(democratic at that) to push a candidate dowm it’s members throats at the expense of others, and turns it’s face on the thugary tactics by which he accumilated the votes. If those thugary tactics are the reasons behind her decision, then this party is doomed
What a clueless, almost “concern trollish” comment. Naive, to put it nicely.
Hillary is thinkin ahead. She is doing what she has to do.
yes, she is looking toward 2 her future as a leader and powerhouse in the senate, she herself is not as devious and dis-loyal as you think.
And, if the AP confirms that it’s a legitimate photograph of the document, why aren’t AP outlets publishing it? How do we make that happen?
They did 18 months ago.
barky said it wasn’t true.
The MSM believes what ever the barky campaign says and into the circular file it goes.
No more questions they are just distractions.
You would have thought the Edwards fiasco would have taught the MSM a lesson about not vetting a candidate. They just WON’T learn!
They never published the picture with the article according to Texas Darlin.
Islam listed as Obama’s religion on school records.
27 years later, Obama becomes a Christian through involvement with a church that damns America and White people - and praises Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam!
Dems for McCain - NO Hussein!
Oops! should be 20 years - not 27.
It’s obviously not legit if the AP will not cover it. You would figure if a presidential candidate is faking the funk to get elected, it’d be the biggest scandal ever. Since the MSM has not chosen to cover it, it’s obviously fake. Also, common sense would tell you that all elected officials are government employees. Their backgrounds are thoroughly investigated. I was in the Army and had to have my background checked for a secret clearance. I was just a lowly enlisted man. Imagine if I were running for president, they’d know everything. So please stop with this crap. Hey, here’s a bright idea. Why don’t you invest all your investigative talents to finding John McCain’s missing military files? I here that over 600 plus pages are missing. Must be some real dirt to be found concerning those. Maybe you’ll find that he was a crappy pilot and crashed about 5 planes, costing the Navy millions. And maybe those facts were covered up because his grandfather and father happen to be 4 star Admirals. Yes, McCain has tons more dirt on him than Obama. But I guess since he didn’t defeat Hillary, he’s safe, huh?
the AP confirmed it. It’s legit.
Yo lowly Kelvinie enlisted man:
Ratchet up the rhetoric a little louder because the crappy pilot mantra isn’t flying here. I believe they call that falling on deaf ears.
You too funny!
Stop the hate!
I’m rolling my eyes here. Only thing missing is the race card.
If you would go to http://www.fec.gov, you can see Obama’s Statement of Candidacy which required no background check. If you search Barak Obama, you will find items relating to his senate campaigns. The ID# for his presidential campaign starts with a P. I called the Secretary of State in my state and also the Attorney General. It seems that anyone can run, you don’t have to produce your birth certificate. If and when the empty suit is nominated, then the DNC does the certifying and he will have to apply to each state to be on that state’s ballot. Do you trust the DNC? The AP confirmed that the Jakarta school document was genuine. I will cast my ballot for McCain as Obama is not only unqualified to be president, but cannot meet the constitutional requirements to be President.
Do you think that he uses the later birthdate for a reason as well?
8.4.61 vs 4.8.61?
With Oblowme, I would take absolutely nothing for granted.
I assumed that one date was month/date/year and one was date/month/year. Some countries use that convention.
Those numbers represent the same day- August 4,1961-
just different formats. One is month/day/year the other is day/month/ year. Depends on the country as to which format is used.
It actually the way the rest of the world writes their dates.
3-11-2007 can be seen as November 3, 2007 internationally while here in the U.S. it is read as March 11, 2007.
only americans list the month before the day
so it is 4th of august 1961
I assumed an American - Stan Dunham - filled out the form.
Guessed wrong!
The American format for dates is Month-Day-Year. The Rest of the World uses Day-Month-Year.
Difference between the US and everyone else–we do it ass-backwards. Everywhere else in the world they write dates in logical order.
I write them that way here in the US, but I wouldn’t call the month/day/year ‘ass backwards’, it’s just in the order that we speak it.
Bored
Except we write it as it is said in America..also logical:)
8.4.61 and 4.8.61, is the same (4th of August,1961),In many languages, seems to me Indonesian too,they note first the day - month and the year or can be the year first,the month and day.
This date business can cause problems. A friend of mine overstayed his visa (not in the US) because he read it as every country, except the US, does. The month is ALWAYS in the middle.
Another number problem pops up when ticketers don’t use the 24 hr rule. You’d never mistake 18:00 for 6:00 as an example. But heck, the US wont’t go metric either in spite of the fact that the rest of the world has except, I think, for Burma!
Thanks for the confirmation!
I’ll update my original blog post:
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-indonesian-registration.html
Just for fun- here’s a photo composite of Obama- it’s kinda freaky.
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/meet-barry-soetero-photo-composite.html
hmm almost looks as though, (is it lolo his adopted father?) could be Obama’s real dad. That is freaky. But with all the photo shop type software available these days anything is possible…which if that were true would make Obama an Indonesian citizen and American citizen, well, naturally.
It wouldn’t make him a dual citizen. You either give up a citizenship before you take the oath of US citizenship or you’re a green card with foreign citizenship.
You can be a dual citizen in other countries, but not the U.S.
I believe that you can hold dual citizenship in some instances.
I have a client who was born in the US and at age 6 moved back to the UK with her UK parents. She always had UK citizenship. When she came here with her husband…on his H1B visa, she came as a UK citizen and didn’t realize what having been born in the US meant. I spoke with her and found out that she was actually born in Philly - making her a US citizen, too. And that’s what she is today - a dual citizen.
She has to enter the US on her US passport but that’s the only requirement.
Actually, you can be a dual US citizen in the US. US law does not encourage dual citizenship, but it does not outlaw dual citizenship, either. Under US law, whether a person can be a dual citizen is left up to the law of the other country; in Obama’s case, Indonesia, and it was Indonesia that would not recognize the dual citizenship.
That is not true, Tyron. You can’t have dual citizenship as president, not one ordinary citizen. I know many people have dual citizenship.
Not true - my son is a dual citizen of USA and UK. You used to have to give one up at 21, but that is no longer the case.
No ‘major’ edits were done. All the images are still at right angles. The only things that were changed were the angle of perspective, the size, and transparency of layers so you could compare one photo to the other.
Well, that makes the resemblance to the dad more curious then. So many unanswered questions.
Like can you do the same with his Kenya dad?
Was Obama’s mother adopted?
Who the heck is Barack Obama?
Like Napoleon said, ‘the father of the child is the husband’.
If it suited Obama Sr, it suits me.
That’s right. The Oblowmes weren’t married…
I still would like to see his Kenya’s dad photo to see the ressemblance like Matt did with the Indonesian dad.
If Obama is really Indonesian/American he has misrepresented himself as part AA.
That photo overlay just leads me to more curiosity and questions.
I don’t see any resemblence between 0bama and Lolo. Maybe because I’m AA and have seen the way genetics works in biracial friends I have known. Also, most AAs have some Caucasian blood as the result of raping of female slaves. Often in AAs, a recessive gene may crop up and you’ll get someone with blue eyes or blonde hair. Malcolm X had red hair and freckles, for example. He did not get that from his African ancestry.
0bama looks like the product of a biracial union. He would not be as dark as his father and other Africans and the mixture would make him seem as though he resembled someone like his Indonesian stepfather in coloring. This is why he probably blended in so well in Hawaii as a child. He had a more of a native look than a pure African look.
If you get a chance, find a picture of his maternal grandfather. 0bama shares many similar features: shape of his head, his jawline, cheekbones. The telltale features that obscure this similarity are 0bama’s nose, his hair texture and skin color. Most people focus on that and therefore don’t see similarities.
But the real evidence that he is the Kenyan’s son is his personality and character. Barack Sr., was egocentric, and very self-centered, I say that is an exact DNA match. 0bama is just lucky that he didn’t indulge in his father’s other habits and his upbringing and environment probably had a lot to do with that. But he definitely has an African character. From what I read about Lolo Soetoro, he was not like this.
And please, I’m black, have many African friends and traveled there, my next door neighbors are from Africa. Every ethnicity has their own unique nature and as in every group some is good and some is bad.
To be fair…there were Irish slaves in and around AA slaves and NA slaves.
Not all the mixed blood is the result of slave masters raping, granted a lot is. However, they also forced Irish and AA slaves to have babies together in forced breeding programs in Barbados and the US.
When free AA, Irish, and Native Americans lived near eachother which accounts for other mixing of blood lines, by choice.
No disrespect intended, but the Irish slave is often forgotten, lied about and diminished even today.
We share family because we were slaves too and because of love as well. Which I think is important for family to remember.
True, but the lion’s share belong to the slave master. Even history validates this.
Also, if you watched African American Lives which tracked the ancestry of famous black Americans by Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates, one of the more interesting things he discovered was the lack of Native American DNA in his subjects. He used very advanced DNA testing with the subjects. The conclusion was that although there was some intermingling between AAs and Indians, it’s not as extensive as many AAs think.
To my knowledge, the Irish were called Indentured Servants. That may seem like a semantical argument but legally there is a difference. On one side of my family there is the mingling of an Irish indentured servant. And that relative’s status was passed down as such in my family line and was not noted as a slave.
I know many white people bristle at the mention of the raping of female slaves but it did happen.
Interesting note which should make you feel better: when Oprah’s family tree was charted, she has absolutely NO Caucasasian blood. Translation: none of her female relatives suffered that indignity.
Kidnapping people and forcing them into slavery isn’t ‘indentured slavery’. Just like stealing all of their food by the barrel of a gun isn’t a ‘potato famine’.
Like I said there is a lot of lies and false history with the Irish slave and their people.
We were actually worth less than AAs and worked to death more often because Irish slaves were free to kidnap.
Even MLK knew we were his brothers in the 60s.
And respectfully, I didn’t bristle at the idea of raping slaves.
If I’m telling you the Irish were raped too, along with forced breeding which is another version of rape.
oops…should be ‘indentured servant’
Look, I have Irish blood in my line. I’m not trying to minimize the history. Far be it from me to deny the that those who wrote the history have lied. That’s what people who write the history tend to do. There’s a lot of historical misrepresentation and AAs are not the only ones who suffered that. But as the record stands, they were called ‘indentured servants’ and legally they would be treated differently in spite of all the ugly things they may have experienced. And I did say it was a question of semantics. I consider any kind of forced servitude slavery.
But it’s incumbent of the Irish to claim their historical accuracy. And no matter, it won’t change or diminish the brutal AA experience of slavery. That’s written in stone.
Matthew:
When did BO’s mom and Lolo Soetero meet?
The resemblance is curious… top part of his face (eyes and eyebrows)…
Maybe you can try the same with Obama Senior ?
And with his Mom ?
He does not look like Lolo Soetero. 0bama’s appearance is the result of Caucasian and African mixture. The end result is a more native type of appearance. I’ve never seen a mixture result in a more African appearance so 0bama would not look exactly like his father or like he was a pure African because he is not.
How do we force the MSM to pick this story up and run with it? Has anyone sent it to the UK press? I have noticed that The Times has run a few negative Obama stories in the past couple of weeks, so if the story isn’t breaking in the U.S., maybe it needs to get some oxygen in the foreign press, preferably in English speaking countries.
I am staggered that the DNC have foisted Obama on America, they must know how toxic he is, and don’t care because he meets their own, private and perverted criteria for their vision of America and the world. I am so tired of being told that it is my duty to toe the line and endorse a candidate who is a complete anathema to me and my beliefs, hopes and aspirations.
Thanks to TD for having the instinct and tenacity of a terrier and for sticking with this angle. I just hope that it gets the audience it deserves.