More on Obama’s Answer About Justice Clarence Thomas
By NoQuarter on August 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM in Barack Obama, Qualifications, Supreme Court
As thunder pounds the skies and shakes the earth here — basso continuo, like tympani drums as gargantuan as the mountains, with a deep, unholy timbre that is frightening and foreboding, so much so that friends’ dogs are hiding under their beds — I talked to a friend who told me to check out this story at Hot Air:
“Nuance: Obama almost says Clarence Thomas didn’t have enough experience to serve”
And we know what horrible outcomes can arise when people without experience are placed in positions of great power. InstaGlenn accuses him of actually saying it but that’s not true: Watch him catch himself mid-sentence, the first fateful syllable of the word “experience” already out of his mouth, before he stops short and switches gears by basically calling Thomas a moron instead (at least, “at the time”) — an aspersion reinforced a moment later by the implicit contrast he draws in praising Scalia’s brilliance. A golden gaffe, narrowly avoided. Stay classy, Barry.
What is the worst of this is, as we all know here and have grown weary of trying to explain to others, is that Obama nearly expressed his OWN greatest weakness: His own lack of experience. Here’s the video:
You had better watch it, Barack. What you’re really saying that it is YOU who don’t have the experience — particularly in the inept ways you answered too many questions last night. And you KNEW it, which is why you stopped yourself suddenly. YOU KNOW IT TOO, don’t you. Not good.
As Taylor Marsh said, he needs a debate coach badly. But as I also said last night, no coach in the world can provide him with the one thing he does not have: Experience.
It was a significant — but foreboding — contribution to our discussion that, this morning, Reverend Amy mentioned that scolding letter that a betrayed John McCain sent in 2006 to the impudent, neophyte senator Barack Obama who did not know his place and did not even know enough to feign respect not only for his more senior fellow senators but also for the institution. Here is the opening salvo of that letter, which Reverend Amy reprints in full:
I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.
The experienced man lectures the young, immature senator that a man’s word IS HIS BOND.
What is shocking is that the experienced man had to give the lecture at all. Surely, one can almost certainly assume, that a man who has achieved the rare distinction of becoming a United States Senator would have learned that lesson long ago. Apparently not.
After all, as his supporters have learned — over and over and over again — in the past couple months, Barack Obama holds NO value, NO policy, and NO commitment dear enough that he isn’t willing, in a heartbeat, to toss it away like cheap garbage if it suddenly doesn’t suit his immediate overwhelming need for self-gratification.
The man is still a junkie. But his drug of choice these days is adoration. The masses must worship him. That is why a simple convention venue is not enough. There must be a stadium large enough to fit his ego.
NancyA called me this afternoon and asked me why the Democrats let themselves be transfixed by this wholly inadequately prepared candidate. There is NO rational explanation.
By thanks to their failure to conduct “due diligence” of this candidate, the Democrats are doomed to either an unnecessary, utterly preventable loss in November — in the one year they could seize victory firmly in their grasp — or to four grim years of a presidency by a unprepared, unschooled, inexperienced, unqualified man.
Historians will write about this for centuries to come.
It is tragic that we who are alive at this moment in time could not prevent this from having happened.
But our fate, and the party’s fate, has been seized and no one with any sense is listening.
The thunder rumbles. The lightning flashes. The sky is ominously dark and looming over all of us. But those who should know better are too dazzled by the power trip they’re on to stop and think about the imminent danger.
So Barry Soetoro knows that he is not Presidential material. But the con must go on.
I am an American that is tired of the second standard set of rules that some in this country are held to. I believe every person black, white or purple should be held to the same standards. I ask would you hire a greenhorn to be the Project Manager of a Construction Site that has superficial experience or would you hire a man that has 30 years of experience helping and executing the project? Would you hire the bag boy at the Supermarket to run a district of Supermarkets? Would you hire the bus boy in the cafe to run the cafe? Would you hire the janitor to be the School Superintendent? Would you hire the car salesman to operate the car manufacturing plant? Would you hire the Junior Senator to be the United States President?
Get Smart America we need a leader not a bus boy.
Not only is he only a Junior Senator, he is LAZY, and hasn’t done his job in the Senate…
One of the books my economic teacher in High school had us read was the Peter Principle- about trying to do a job above one’s capability.
We saw Bush try to attempt this and he failed miserably, Obama will be worse.
I suggest Obama and his bots read it, if they are capable.
Look to Israel Insider to find proof that Obama was called Barry Soetoro in Indonesia and listed as an Indonesian:
http://web.israelinsider.com/home.htm
So perhaps if start using the words “Obama is not strong enough at this time…” instead of “lacks the experience”, maybe they’ll quit calling us racists. It’s all in vocabulary you know.
Great point Kato, and completely accurate. Obama is a very weak candidate.
“words, just words”
NOW he needs a debate coach? Uhhhh no. The time for debate coaches, and critical thinking coaches and history teachers was back in high school. Jesus Christ in a sidecar, when are people going to stop making excuses for this moron.
answer–when he loses the general election. then it will be Hillary’s fault.
bwahaha, maybe he should have had a few town hall debates with HRC. Of course, then he wouldn’t be here at all…
Yes, he would. It hasn’t been about voters, it’s been about money and corruption. He shouldn’t be here in a true situation, regadless.
Well, I’m glad that Odrama at least realizes he’s inexperienced. Not that he — or rather, his pride — is willing to admit it.
We all know that our Party, however noble in its intentions until this year, is spectacularly able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. If McGovern, Dukakis, and Kerry couldn’t win, do you really think Obama can?
If McGovern, Dukakis, and Kerry couldn’t win, do you really think Obama can?
What a great point. Never thought of it that way.
Hillary or McCain ‘08!!!
Don’t forget Gore- if Gore couldn’t win either Obama’s going down.
Good God. They think they have their excuse now for Obama`s dismal performance:
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell Floats Idea McCain Cheated
By D. S. Hube (Bio | Archive)
August 17, 2008 - 14:58 ET
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Think John McCain did pretty well in last evening’s Saddleback Civil Forum on Presidency hosted by the Rev. Rick Warren? You’re not the only one. The Obama campaign thinks he did well too — so good, in fact, that they think he might have cheated. And on this morning’s “Meet the Press,” Andrea Mitchell wasted no time floating the Obama campaign’s “private” concern:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/d-s-hube/2008/08/17/nbcs-andrea-mitchell-floats-idea-mccain-cheated
THIS IS THE WOMAN THAT SAID HILLARY WAS A DISGRRACE TO ALL WOMEN…. THIS IS THE WOMAN THAT CONVIENCED ME TO WRITE TO NBC AND TELL THEM THAT AS A FAITHFUL VIEWER FOR OVER 30 YEARS I WOULD NO LONGER BE LISTENING TO THEIR BULLSHIT. THANKYOU FOR REMINDING ME OF HOW GLAD I AM THAT I DON’T WATCH THEIR CRAP!!!!!!
I wonder if they have a clue how many viewers they lost because of the constant Clinton pounding.
More importantly, MSNBC does not seem to care. The station income, apparently, is not viewer driven.
Not to mention her husband has destroyed the housing market for years to come
Not to mention her [Andrea Mitchell] husband has destroyed the housing market for years to come
- Comment by Tricia S | 2008-08-17 22:48:54
So Mitchell’s husband is that pompous big-mouth, Alan Greenspan?
LOL!
The people will surely tire of this constant, “it was her/his fault” crap this loser pulls. What kind of a leader does not take responsibility for his own mishaps? Oh, that’s right, O’Bush. The flip side of our current coin.
Of course they think he cheated, Obama has been doing it all his life.
I hope Andrea does an investigative report on the cone of silence and gets locked in
LOL !!
LOL. Nah, she should do a piece on the crap cannon. But first she’d need to learn to sit on her own head.
Well, this complaining just sounds whiny and makes him look even weaker…
Keep it up Obama, you wuss.
The McCain campaign responds to the Obama campaign’s ridiculous cheating allegation.
The facts are that Senator McCain was in a motorcade led by the United States Secret Service and held in a green room with no broadcast feed. If the Obama campaign really believes that Senator McCain had some unfair advantage, our offer of weekly town hall forums remains on the table–anyplace, anytime.
http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/
DOUBLE PWNED!!
BRING IT BARRY! YOU KNOW YOU WANNA!!
FRIGGIN BABY!
That’s a BRILLIANT response. The Obama camp came through as spoiled teenage brats whining about underperforming: ” it was McCain’s fault” bwah bwah … How pathetic !!!!
The funny thing is that by throwing this accusation the Obama camp is admitting Obama did terribly..
You know, Obama is furious he had to go first and Hillary wasn’t there to teach him what to say. I am sure Obama must have been thinking ” where is Hillary??!!! all the way through that “interview”
Amazing…. It’s really embarrassing …
Just think, if all the debates between Hillary and Obama had been ran with the same format (cone of silence), we wouldn’t be having these discussions. He would have been blown out of the race a long time ago. maybe McCain should insist on the same format.
BO is the one who said he cheated (by looking up some answers beforehand???).
Warren said that he had given both candidates the first two questions before they arrived so it was okay for Obama to say that he looked up his answers. Unfortunately for Obama, he blew the answers even after studying.
What thumb-sucking Obamabots don’t get, is that 71 year old people ARE sharp - but then, ANYONE would be sharper than duh, uh, mmm, blah blah.
McCain did fabulous. I was impressed. Warm, funny, on top of the issues, concise.
Right, McCain “cheated” - he just “cheated” Dumbama out of the POTUS by his intelligence, charisma, and knowledge of the issues… no, “hope-y” and “change’y” are not issues, Barry!!!
Un, mmm, as usual - Barky sucked.
What in the Hell was the Dem “leaderhip” thinking???
Hillary or McCain ‘08!!!
I love it.
“McCain wins, Obama camp whines.”
HARP: Rick Sanchez at CNN interviewed Warren and tried to pull off the same idiotic argument (the “cone of silence” ). Warren blew him off. Whoever is pulling these absurdity out of the hat and feeding it into CNN & MSNBC (the Obama enablers in chief) are beyond shame …
The Main Stream Obama Propoganda Indoctrination Machine have been covering up for makeing excuses for and compensating for Obama since day one. what makes you think they will stop now?
What is the “cone of silence”, how does it pertain to last night’s forum?
LOL … that’s what McCain was in while waiting his turn…
indeed… but Mac wont put up with their stupid Sh*t.
I heard Warren say in that interview that they both knew ahead of time what some of the general topics might cover, but not the specific questions. Barack Obama is never going to be prepared as long as he is trying to judge the reaction of the audience and adjust his answers accordingly. His stutters and stammers get worse when he is trying to make it up as he goes along.
O M G ! That is incredible! McCain cheated, my ass! I think they both knew possible questions and were prepared, but just be dumbass does poorly, McCain cheated???? Give me a break!
Yep, here’s Obama’s reply to Warren’s question about orphans - obviously a pet subject with Warren:
I CHEATED A LITTLE BIT. I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THIS IDEA AHEAD OF TIME AND I THINK IT IS A — I THINK IT’S A GREAT IDEA.
What kind of hypocrite starts off admitting he cheated and ends up accusing McCain of cheating?
Kudos to Susan. Her brilliant posts always get me thinking and researching.
How can anyone cheat on questions where the answers are not written in stone? Must be that No Child Left behind Education where everything is a test mentality…OY!
Hi all, I’m new to the board. I decided to leave that pompous Politico and come to a site agmongst friends(HRC supports).
Ofcourse McCain was ready it was a forum about religious values. Why did the Obama campaign not think there would be a question about abortion-that’s a nobrainer. When I heard this forum was going to been on Saturday night,right after Obama got back from vacation. I knew he wouldn’t do well.
I guess Clarence Thomas goes under the bus. Obama has a hell of a lot of nerve to criticize Thomas’ experience and intellect- he ought to look in the mirror.
It sounded like the Beautiful O said Clarence Thomas did not have the judicial smarts to be a Supreme. He wasn’t the only one who felt that way.
American Bar Association’s (ABA) rating for Judge Thomas was split between “qualified” and “not qualified.” Compare this to Judge Alito who was unanimously rated “well qualified” by the American Bar Association.
The beautiful O? Oh Joy you make me ill.
Rosey Rite, the Beautiful O term is a joke. Gosh do you guys hate the Beautiful O so much you lost your sense of humor along the way.
There is NO stadium big enough for his ego.
I am asking the same question as NancyA.
Why BO opened mouth to insert foot….
on clarence thomas I wwill never know. If he had attempted to clarify his remark by seperating the opins he wrote or his Anita Hill deal and that hanky panky …once again this guy Barry Soetoro-Obamahas the political tone deaf thing down pat…
Mrs Alan Greenspan and her husband should appear before Congress. Greenspan for the major role he has played in our current housing/ mortgage fiasco. Andrea for being a talking head on a fake news station that pushes a fascist agenda and is a mouthpiece for GE. (GE, by the way was recently outed for having contract(s) with Iran, while they have been rendering havoc in Iraq.
zomg, they can not be serious with this “mccain cheated” bullshit!?
do they realize how pathetic that makes obama look? jeebus, that’s worse than the actual thing.
damn that is really, really lame.
Surely, one can almost certainly assume, that a man who has achieved the rare distinction of becoming a United States Senator would have learned that lesson long ago.
He didn’t learn this, or many other things, because he hasn’t EARNED his positions and worked hard once he’s in them. That’s the problem with being carried along– there is a sense of entitlement and arrogance. If you have to work hard and learn through difficulties, you gain humility and detailed knowledge on a visceral level. Obama is faking it. He knows it & we know it. His supporters are either drunk on green and power or in deep denial, desperate to elect a Democrat. It’s like watching a train wreck.
Fauxbama
Obama Supports Infanticide!
Of all the reasons to not see this man become the next Pres. I think this rates as the NUMBER one issue!
I think everyone, even the most die-hard Obama supporters need to see this film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo
Please, forward this to everyone you know, and beg them to contact their local delegates, and elected officials demanding that they NOT vote to nominate Barack Obama at the convention. There is NO way someone who votes in favor of this atrocious crime can ever win in a general election nor SHOULD they!
This isn’t about whether you believe in a woman’s right to choose, this is about a practice so heinous even NARAL will not come out and support.
Please pass this on to EVERYONE!
That’s “greed” not “green.” Though that applies too.
Great post Susan…
“As Taylor Marsh said, he needs a debate coach badly. But as I also said last night, no coach in the world can provide him with the one thing he does not have: Experience.”
Lack of experience can be worked around. Obama’s problem is much worse. He is lazy. He has not used the years since graduating from Law school to read, think and write. He has no underlying knowledge base to understand what is happening and how to solve problems. This becomes painfully obvious when he is forced to give an answer beyond a “talking point.” No coach or handler can make up for all of those years that Obama wasted. We have a very similar personality in the WH now..Obama will be no better.
Obama would be far worse than Monkey Boy Bush.
I somehow envisioned Clarence watching him make that crack about his “inexperience”…….and mumbling, “You should talk”.
just thinking the only thing worse for soetoro to say would be “I wouldn’t have put him on because of skin color”…..(maybe that’s why he chose thomas)…after having declared himself a symbol and said the change in the WH will be skin color–which will “show the world” good things about america…blech
My thoughts exactly.
Barry lies with sincerity.
Sad & shameful.
I think his problem is that is brain cells are fried! Drug use takes it toll!
Oh and about Scalia’s “intellectual brilliance”. The man comes from a notable Fascist family in Italy. Being Italian, I recognize a greaseball when I see one. And Scalia is a greaseball.
I thought he may have been criticizing Thomas to show white voters he can be critical of blacks. I think Scalia is on a par with Thomas.
I’d point out that Thomas graduated from Yale Law school. It just goes to show — you can have a fancy degree but not be worth a nickel as a jurist or a statesman. I worked as a lawyer at a pretty elite place (sadly, my law school was only in the top 20) and there are some real bozos with degrees from highfalutin schools, including Harvard. And that’s not just my opinion. Some people are experts at playing the academic game, schmoozing with profs, knowing how to write answers that will please, but not having really deep analytical skills.
Yes, but he was also scoring more points with black people at the same time.
Apparently, you all don’t know, but Clarence Thomas is a demon spawn in the AA community. No one likes him and he is called an ‘Uncle Tom.’
So basically, Uhbama scored points in 2 quarters.
I agree, I was thinking the same thing about Obama I bet he schmoozed with professors his whole time through law school. We’ve seen these types in college. College professors are much more affected by that sort of thing.
Why did Obama did so poorly? Because the format did not help him cheat. The questions were asked, like in a game show, so that the answers from one candidate are not heard by the opponent. BO usually takes the opponent’s (Hillary) answers, changes it a little and then it’s his answer. He couldn’t do that, so he tried to fog his answers, like he does with reporters, but that didn’t work in this forum because these want answers, not some political talking point.
my posting should read:
because these people want answers, not some political talking point.
Hey its Sunday night..long weekend. Lol
I think they didn’t do their homework on Saddleback. I think they thought because it’s in CA the audience would be very liberal.
When you think about it-its strange that Soetoro would select the only AA on the court. That guy has problems?
That HILLARY logo is wonderful!
I ran off some stationery for myself using that crest on the top.
I like the spin in the media today as they described Obama’s struggle for words as thoughtful and McCain’s precise answers as abrupt.
That is some mighty strong KoolAid. Thoughtful?
Had a good day today, handed out 200 hand cranked weather radio’s, 50 weather radio with lantern, 100 shake flash lights, 25 sleeping bags, 30 sets of walkie talkies, 22 TV, Flashlight and Lantern Combo’s, 80 cases of water and 45 solar blankets in the West Hollywood and Pembroke Pines FL.
thank you! And blessings for your work…
Forgive me for not knowing, but to whom did you hand out these gifts?
Look at Clarence Thomas’s skin. It is a different color than the other 8 justices.
What Obama was really saying is that a black man can’t be on the Supreme Court. It is a fairytale to think that a black man could be qualified. I doubt if Obama would have said this if he were white.
I just can’t bring myself to vote for a racist like this Obama.
He’s a man torn asunder by two warring racial factions inside his own skin. His two genetic lineages seem to have pretty low opinions of one another. Sometimes we hear from one, sometimes we hear from the other.
Man, he just came off a week-long vacation in Hawaii? What gives with this dude?
He reminded me of when you come back to work and you still wish you were at the beach. Personally I don’t understand why he needed a vacation.
Excellent post Susanunpc; very eloquent and right on.
Regarding
I think MONEY is a huge reason. He seems to be getting money by the truckloads 51 Million in July; from who I don’t know… But they have labeled him as the candidate wo was able to fundraise more money that any other in history in either party… And they are talking about what ” a donor of 1 Million would get for it at the convention” . Do you get this: one individual donating 1 Million for the convention …. They aren’t dazzled by him or maybe they are but much more by the money he brings.
It is unbelievable… What a waste; what a lost opportunity.
Now suppose he takes their money and still doesn’t win.
Great post as usual, Susan. The link to Obama’s “exp..” “strenght” statement was interesting, he obviously caught himself.
It seems there is no explanation for the failure to vett…unless Obama was promised the election/nomination no matter what, or bought everyone off…but he also is making gaffes right and left as if he is broadcasting a need to get himself out of this.
What is up? And then I think well they will let HRC take the fall..nominate her from the floor and deliberately destroy her chances to win….
??
I can’t shake the feeling, this ominous feeling, that we’re in so much trouble….and this
inexperienced junior senatorcandidate that’s not nearly strong enough to be the POTUS is, if elected, going to lead us down the path of complete destruction. We’ve been heading this way since GWB’s administration took the office and now the desperation of the democrats to win again is going to finish the deal for us Americans.He’s not thoughtful, he’s searching for words.
He’s not a proponent of change, he’s a mask for change.
His supporters are so desperate for change that they can’t hear or see one iota of his deceitfulness. They can’t see that he’s the same old politician they hate. He’s never accomplished anything that they would really vote for.
The DNC leadership is so desperate to win an election they risk letting Howard Dean to speak in public. That’s a risky affair, and they need to learn to judge risk by the potential consequences…something that’s been severely lacking in this country’s economic and political arenas.
It’s a dreadful feeling I have when I think about a nobody becoming the POTUS. A complete nobody, whose only history was a fictional piece written by himself.
Why do you think they cast him as a political messiah? If they presented him as what he truly is NOBODY would have supported him.
Agreed. BO is one of the most casted characters of all political times. What a perfect word you chose.
I’m guessing the casting party started way back when he started writing books to create his history.
The ominous feeling I have is that the fix is in and they plan to steal the election. I think the machines have been hacked. I also think there will be voter intimidation on Election Day in areas where they think they can get away with it. Latino voters I suspect will be particularly vulnerable.
I refused to watch last night. 0bama makes me physically ill. Bush was bad enough. I guess Bush weakened my immune system and so I have zero tolerence for 0bama.
I’m sure NBC and msnbc think the Olympics will carry them over into the Convention.
WRONG!!!
As soon as the Olympics are over, msnbc goes back on v-chip. I will not watch that stupid Convention. Even if there’s an upset and Hillary Were to win. I’ll just watch the replay.
I’m counting the days to be able to vote for McCain.
I’ll watch the convention, but not the parts with Obama in them … assuming there are any that is.
Something I’ve been wondering….since when does a Nobody write an autobiography? That’s a serious question I’ve had.
Two autobiographies and working on a 3rd. Get um while they’re hot!
BUt…but…but susan. The DNC has decided that it is more important to elect a african american or black president of the united states at this critical time in america than to have an experienced, government knowledgeable, and saged president. So there….take that experience and capable meme..
PUMA
Bah Humbug!