Obama v. McCain: Impressions from ’round the blogosphere
By SusanUnPC on August 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM in Barack Obama, John McCain
Mark Hemingway for The Corner (it’s important to read it all):
I don't want to get to overheated about what occurred tonight, but I do think McCain had a clear and decisive victory over Obama. It all comes down to something that Phil Bredesen, the Democratic governor of Tennessee recently said about Obama: “Instead of giving big speeches at big stadiums, he needs to give straight-up 10-word answers to people at Wal-Mart about how he would improve their lives.”
By that standard, McCain did extremely well and Obama did very poorly. McCain's answers were direct, confident and, most importantly, serious. …
Chuck Todd for MSNBC’s First Read:
Quick first impressions: Obama spent more time trying to impress Warren (or to put another away) not offend Warren while McCain seemingly ignored Warren and decided he was talking to folks watching on TV. The McCain way of handling this forum is usually the winning way. Obama may have had more authentic moments but McCain was impressively on message. [...]
[T]his reminded me of the many comparisons we made between Obama and Hillary Clinton. She was much more effective at answering questions in 90 seconds and always staying on message while Obama too easily allowed himself to get knocked off his talking points. Remember, Obama doesn’t need to win over his supporters, he needs folks who are just now tuning in. [...]
Obama better be thankful for the timing of this; he seemed a little rusty and clearly has some work to do before he meets McCain face-to-face on Sept. 26, the night of the first presidential debate in Oxford, MS.
Andrew Sullivan at The Atlantic:
9.57 pm. McCain’s evolution into a candidate who knows how to stroke the Christianist base is somewhat impressive. It was a little canned at times, but it will work with evangelicals. All in all, this struck me as pretty much a draw. But it also struck me that the questions could have been asked in a non-religious setting and by a real journalist who might have even followed up the questions and not allowed both candidates, but especially McCain, to go on anecdote auto-pilot. …
From The Moderate Voice:
[...] Once again McCain has proven to be far stronger than some predicted he would be, exceeding expectations. And Obama has proven to be a tad less dynamic and overpowering than earlier hype suggested, not meeting some expectations. [...]
Obama’s performance has not been judged bad (except by some GOP partisan writers who likely would have proclaimed it bad no matter how well he did because that’s how the spin game is played). But it was NOT a buzz-creating home run or or game-changer. And McCain — once again — came across as highly likable, sincere and decisive. Will the word “nuance” — once considered a plus — again become a dirty word in campaign 2008? …
OF NOTE: The Moderate Voice also offers a good round-up of blog reactions.
Michael M. Bates for Newsbusters.org (”CNN’s Analysis: At Saddleback, Obama Was ‘Thoughtful’”):
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That Obama is just so darn thoughtful. This isn’t just CNN’s judgment. Over at MSNBC, political director Chuck Todd noted that "every Obama answer was certainly thoughtful enough. . . " San Francisco Chronicle political writer Carla Maninucci writes that Obama "appeared more thoughtful and comfortable discussing faith and domestic issues, exploring with relish the issues and moral dilemmas with Warren." Dan Glaister, Los Angeles correspondent of the UK Guardian, reports: "Where Obama was thoughtful and cautious, McCain was abrupt - so abrupt in fact that his short responses meant he got to answer more questions in his hour than his rival."
I watched the forum and would describe many of Obama’s responses as vague. Thoughtfulness, like beauty, apparently is in the eye of the beholder. At CNN and in other mainstream media outlets, they all behold it the same way.
Ed Stoddard for Tales From the Trail:
U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama side-stepped a pointed query about abortion on Saturday by “mega-pastor” Rick Warren during a televised forum.
Asked at what point a baby gets “human rights,” Obama, who strongly supports abortion rights, said: “… whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity … is above my pay grade.”
He went on to reiterate his view that it was important to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who followed Obama onto the stage of the nationally televised event, was more blunt and more emphatic.
He said a baby’s human rights began “at the moment of conception … I have a 25-year pro-life record.” …
Jeremy Lott for The Guardian:
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Warren disclosed to the audience, “Both these guys are my friends.” He passed over the chance to ask hard follow-up questions. He began his one-on-one interview with Obama by joking “If you were a tree…” In fact, the candidates tried to cover up for the puffball nature of some of the queries by pretending they were real stumpers.
This was surprising because Warren is no intellectual slouch. Last year when he went up against atheist wunderkind Sam Harris in Newsweek, he proved an able debater with a real talent for bloodying his opponent. If he’d decided to turn up the heat on the candidates, they’d have felt it.
Perhaps he took it easy because they flattered him. McCain quoted from Warren’s book, The Purpose Driven Life, claiming that it was essentially his own campaign message. Obama contrasted the sales of his own books with Warren’s phenomenal publishing juggernaut. “I haven’t sold 25 million books but I’ve been selling some books lately,” the Democrat said.
Either that or Warren simply doesn’t have a strong preference either way. From their answers it’s clear that we’re about to get a purpose-driven president. Obama would expand healthcare and other programmes domestically, and raise taxes to pay for them. Except for Iraq, Obama is bullish on the benefits of American action abroad.
And readers will no doubt be shocked to learn that McCain wants a more belligerent foreign policy and professed a willingness to follow Osama bin Laden to the very gates of Hades.
The real surprise of the night was McCain’s entrée into domestic issues. Warren asked: when is a fetus “entitled to human rights”? “At the moment of conception” McCain answered, without blinking. (Obama had danced around the issue, calling the determination of when life begins “above my pay grade.”) McCain also began to pivot away from his past support for government funding of embryo destructive stem cell research by saying he is “wildly optimistic” about research to make skin mimic embryonic stem cells.
Warren asked what current Supreme Court justice McCain might not have appointed. The Arizona senator named justices Souter, Stevens, Ginsburg, and Breyer - the entire liberal wing of the Court. And he called Bush appointees justices Alito and Roberts “two of my most recent favorites.”
McCain offered a sweeping embrace of school choice, calling it a “civil rights issue.” On energy issues, he said “We gotta do everything.” “Everything,” included a mix of more subsidies for hybrid cars, more offshore oil exploration, and more nuclear power plants. He proposed large tax credits for children and for healthcare, condemned efforts to increase unionisation by eliminating secret ballots, and railed against high taxes and “class warfare” generally. The crowd loved it.
It could be a preview of things to come. If this new crusading conservative McCain shows up at the presidential debates in October, will Obama be the one left hoping for help from a higher power?
As always, for the very best round-up, check Memorandum.com.


I just completed a video on this same subject, Susan:
‘Daily Kos: McCain wins Saddleback Forum’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDw_IHByu4k
That was the best performance I have ever seen from McCain. Obama was bad, but McCain’s amazing job made Obama look even worse.
So, Andrew Sullivan knows a “real journalist?”
PUMA HAKA
I love the video, Paul! I posted a comment but they’re saying the ratings are disabled right now - will check back later to give it the highest rating.
I went over to the big orange monster this morning just to see how they were taking bambi’s “performance” - not well - ha ha!
“Political Jesus” - fabulous!
Paul, I love the strategy of using dKos words against dKos. That place is so hypocritical and willing to destroy real democracy for their kind of democracy- our way or the highway.
Brilliant.
Thanks, roseeriter.
Daily Kos should be good for something, shouldn’t they be?
Something, that is, besides for laughing yourself silly reading the posts there.
The Daily Kos is nothing but a bunch of self-loathing, spolied brats in need of a good spanking. I laugh at them all.
Firefly, thanks so much!
I disable the ratings on purpose so that Axelrod’s $7/hour crew can’t create havoc with them. We’ve had more than enough of the Obamites’ gaming of ratings and rec lists to last decades.
I have to say this: I remember some of what was written on Daily Kos after Snow died, and it was sickening. Tony Snow was a magnificent human being, despite what anyone thinks of his politics.
That people could delight in anyone’s passing, let alone that of someone of Snow’s quality, is wrong and offensive.
And typical Daily Kos. They are filled with negativity there, and it is repulsive.
Paul wonderful video, honest and so true!!
Glad to of met you here in blogland…
Paul,
That was great, well done. You made it very clear, and I love how you just like what has been put out there speak for itself.
Excellent.
Thanks, Kat. Really glad you enjoyed it.
Paul - your video was fabulous! You might want to do one on the $250K hard luck story. I think his percentages also were off on income levels of Americans.
Thanks, Carol.
It would have been one thing had Obama just not done well with his deliberately evasive, stammering answers.
But McCain was unbelievably good. So good the Obama camp is trying to accuse McCain of cheating by hearing the questions (I heard Andrea Mitchell reported this on Meet The Press today).
When you’re accusing your rival of cheating, that means you know you lost. Lost bad.
I posted that statement over at RD this morning. Andrea suggested that McCain was so good because he was not in the “cone of silence”. These people are ridiculous. They should concentrate on why BO is so bad.
Man, I laughed out loud when I heard that. Talk about whining. Americans don’t want a whiner as their president.
Great video Paul. I particularly like the BO as Urkel image–lol.
Obama should have been a professor. He is so cerebral and philosophical–he does not connect with real people and real issues. It’s all abstract speculation and relativity. That will not engender trust in the American people, especially the heartland.
Thank you, fif.
Obama was a lecturer of law for a number of years. Perhaps that shaped his drawn-out, meandering speech patterns.
Obama is a hustler, nothing more. He’s just a hustler with $10 words and a nice smile.
You’re right — the heartland isn’t going for this. New poll out today has Ohio tied. And BHO is losing about 25 percent of the Dem vote.
To all the media who said PUMA was no big deal:
Can you hear us now?
We’re not backing Barry Soetoro.
Paul, Great video. Glad you inserted the not my job mann, I mean not my paygrade man…C’mon Buckeye Baracks keep swinging to the PUMA camp and leave the Koolaid at the door….
Okay, I’m taking that as a slap in the face.
I may be a professor and it may be economics which is somewhat cerebral and philosophical but I live in the 9th ward and connect with real people and real issues every day. One of the things about being a good professor is that you have to take all the amounts of stuff you know on all kinds of levels teach others on all kinds of levels and apply it and research it on all kinds of level. I, for one, would not want Obama as a colleague. He strikes me as the sort that NEVER does his homework and relies on graduate assistants for things.
Please, not all of us are that whacked!
Oh, I’m a professor too, Dakinikat. Yes, Obama would be a Prima Donna, constantly traveling and applying for Fulbrights and the like and, thus, unavailable for the grunt committee work that has to be done in any department. He would exploit his graduate students, making them grade all the papers and teach his classes during his frequent absences. And he wouldn’t be able to lecture without notes in front of him, which he would read with his head down.
His halting speech is based on the fact that he has no core values or opinions that he is not always parsing for his audience. This explains his history of “present” votes. I was married to a Genius that was very philosophical. At some point you just beg them to make a decision one way or the other.
Here! Here!
Your video was outstanding!
Thanks, Eden. Really glad you like it.
fantastic, great, brilliant!!!!!!!!! What more can I say!!! Tks from the great state of GA
Paul — The contrast between McCain and Backtrack Obama is astounding. McCain has principles and its easy for him to speak on the issues because he understands them and knows his heart. O’Backtrack looks like his is trying to remember what he feels about every issue. He so wanted the moderator to like him. Just like a kid going to a new school. McCain looks like a grown up and next to him Obama looks like an insecure kid.
Paul — Don’t think the age thing is going to work against McCain. Just the opposite–its experience vs. lack of experience.
Susan, seems most everyone (except Sullivan and his fellow oBots) agrees — in so many words: McCain reclaimed the Straight Talker mantle while Obama zigzagged around every issue, seeking to not offend anyone. Obama’s been so vague, so all-things-to-all-people, for so long now that trying to do otherwise is not natural for him.
So much for the Dems-will-crush-Rethugs expectations of our fellow Dems in Left Blogosphere. Oh that this had happened in late June and not right before our convention. Makes me wish that whomever has whatever tapes will release them in the next day or so to spare us the impending debacle.
“Obama zigzagged around every issue, seeking to not offend anyone. Obama’s been so vague,…”
He self-censored a lot because his one true passion is reparations - that’s his reason for public life - if he didn’t self-censor a slip out of the tongue would reveal his real agenda and others things he’d rather remain secret.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/election-08-news-for-pumas-karl-rove-assisted-obama-in-hurting-hillary-clinton-but-theres-morethey-met-ages-ago-no/
I was very impressed by John McCain my decision to back him since HRC has been dogged by DEAN< PELOSI< KERRY< KENEDDY Party. MCCAIN NATION 2008 no obama he stinks!
Paul
You always do such a great job making people understand.
Please even after the election keep doing your videos.
This country needs truth tellers.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
This forum was irrelevant. The topics, the questions, the air time were a complete waste of time. It would have been better spent with a documentary covering the the founding fathers and the constitution.
Obama just gave another Oprah interview. McCain just demonstrated he has the talking points down pat for the most miserably intolerant, hateful, and irrational sect of the Republican base.
The only thing I can do is quote Thomas Jefferson and hope there is an awakening from this period of dismal minds and a new Age of Reason. Spending so much time on every one’s invisible friend and their moral shortcomings reminds with a snake oil salesmen is not my idea of a fruitful Saturday night.
“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802
While I disagree with your assessment of Senator McCain, I will tell you that you will never wonder where you stand with him.
Miserably intolerant? Is that coming from someone who’s leader, Howard Dean, believes that the Republican Party is “white”?
Irrational sect? Is that the group that has sent death threats to Jerome Corsi because the cultists disagree with his anti-Obama book?
Hateful? Is that the group of kids known as the DailyKos wondering which Republican should next be given a brain tumor?
You tell me which side is more hateful and intolerant. There are plenty of idiots out there and for the moment, the Obama cultists win hands down.
they are both intolerant and hateful to the point I’m not longer affiliated with either party. I was a Republican until the Clintons showed me that you could have strong national defense and good economic policies with out the kook religionists that the Republican party drug in with the Nixon southern strategy. I ran as a pro-choice republican candidate, and I can attest to the stalking, the threats, the incredible awful, lies that the christian right employs as it marches on to war. Do I think it’s worse than the Obama Nation … NO! Which is exactly why I won’t support Howard Dean and all the kooky leftists coming in with Obama. It’s as if they borrowed the insane agenda from the christian right.
Obama = Bush III
We have to remember, Obama and the DNC brought faith speech into this particular election cycle. It wasn’t McCain. From all indications, he is a very private person when it comes to personal issues. Obama’s camp mistook his reluctance to speak about religion as an inability. Obama started it. McCain finished it.
just like he and his stooges brought race into it. Sick. Americans are tired of being called racists for not seeing BS/BO as our new Jesus.
Amen!
Worse than irrelevant. I give negs to both of the pandering pair purely for their participation in the preacher’s program.
The relevance it holds is just one more example that he is completely lost in the woods with his halting, boring, rambling speech pattern.
carol — Obama is always lost because he tries so hard to be something he isn’t. Now he’s a religious guy because he wants the Right Wing Republicans to vote for him. Obama who listened to his hate filled preacher for 20 years — is now Mr. Christian. Anyone with half a brain can see Obama is a fraud. When you are not speaking from the heart you’re going to trip yourself up.
Where is Thomas Jefferson when we need him?
People said a lot of the same things about Thomas Jefferson when he was president. The fact is that there will always be smart-assed cynics like “Dakinikat” above who never have a good thing to say about anyone or anything. Cynics are a dime a dozen and never accomplish anything of note. They are petty, miserable little people who don’t count for shit.
One John McCain is worth more than a billion of them put together.
I have a lot of good things to say about John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Harry Truman, Mikael Gorbachev, Winston Churchill, Victor Hugo, John Stuart Mill, Alice Paul, Shirley Chisolm, Scoop Jackson, Patrick Monihan, and HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON!!!
As if you cared …
The R must stand for Republican, because - at least up until now - we’ve been free to discuss politics from a Democratic viewpoint here without that.
I didn’t bother watching this interview as I can’t stomach watching either of them. I don’t like Senator Obama’s corrupt, terrorist (foreign and domestic) friends or his “moral” counselors and thus I would never vote for him and would probably vote for a third party but for one thing…
I hated that the Republicans stole the 2000 election, and Mr. Bush has been gleefully unrepentent - a poster child for arrogance and condescension. I think the 2004 election could also have been tampered with. This election has definitely been a oeuvre filled with corruption, disenfranchisement, and the end justifying the means theme. I believe in holding my party accountable for this fraud and undermining of democracy. Someone else said on this site that “there are worse things than losing an election.” I agree. It was not morally correct for the Republicans to have stolen the election. It is not morally correct for the Democrats to do it. The buck stops with us, fellow Democrats. We cannot let this kind of behavior prevail.
dan — McCain started out for me as a protest vote. My first vote for a Republican. However, I find I like the way he speaks. He has a warmth and humility its impossible to ignore. I don’t agree with him on anything but this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Dan R– why is Dakinikat a cynic? I think the analogy about the strong-arm tactics employed by the right wing evangelicals (and GWB) and Obama and his Ozombies is valid. Obama is just the flip side of GWB, IMHO.
Do you understand the difference between religion and faith? This was a Faith Forum. Having faith in a power greater than yourself is not the same as having a religion. I am pretty certain the founding fathers believed the same way. Therefore, the separation of church (religion) and state. Not the separation of faith and state. Faith is non-partisan.
You are so wrong. The Founders of this country were a product of the Age of Reason, not the Dark Ages. I suggest you go read what they actually had to say about the subject rather than speculate about which you have no knowledge.
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/adams.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm
I read it, I get it. You don’t! There is a difference between Religion and Faith. Religion is how some people choose to practice their faith.
I am well aware that the founding fathers did not all practice RELIGION, but the your first link specifically describes TJ’s belief in a power greater than himself….Nature’s GOD!
I’ve never seen Jefferson describe himself as Pantheistic. He was much more interested in the idea of a higher mind within every one.
Oh Christ.
If McCain keeps saying…”Country First” like he has done in his life, he will be our 44th President.
Harp — I don’t think John McCain will ever hurt us. I think like Clinton McCain would feel my pain.
Sounds like McCain is listening to the PUMA mantra: Country before Party!
John McCain did a fantastic job last night because he was being himself. If you’re comfortable in your own skin, people will know it. Obama isn’t comfortable in his own skin and you saw that last night.
I don’t care whether or not someone agrees with me political. I do care that you’re honest and comfortable enough to believe in your positions.
Couldn’t have said it better republicanchick!
RepublicanChick I agree that JM did a good job last night. But, even though we do not agree with the DNC nominee we must keep in mind JM response to the court question. I will never ever vote for BO. I will not vote for POTUS. But, I will vote for the Dem nominee for US Senate and I will pray that the court members that JM mentioned will hold on for 4 more years until we get HRC in office.
We don’t know for sure that Hillary will run again or what will happen in 2012. With all due respect, I say “live for the moment.” I have no problem voting for McCain.
Especially true given the circumstances surrounding this election. Absent HRC, McCain is a good second choice.
I think she will run and win in 2012. Remember, McCain said he would consider one term. Again, I will not vote for BO for POTUS and after this I don’t think I can vote for him for US Senate. I may consider voting for JM even though it will be changed in Cook County, IL. For me it is about Country First!
Agree wholeheartedly. Although not a real ardent McCain supporter, I will definitely vote for him over Obama as I know where he stands. With Obama it seems like it sort of depends on what day it is and which group he is speaking to. In addition, I certainly do not see Sen. McCain as an elitist whereas Sen. Obama comes off that way to me.
Yeah! Obama reminds me of Zelig the mysterious chamelean- like character (in Woody Allen’s film ZELIG) who appears everywhere, changing his appearance to suit his circumstances and audience.
On a similar note, GWB reminds me of the character Chauncey Gardner in the film BEING THERE. Check it out, the film is hilarious, but since the rise of GWB it is also a bit scary.
Republican Chick — I totally agree. I am impressed with the fact that he is sure of himself. Ageism will not work against McCain. Obama’s problem is Youthism.
I normally don’t praise Reagan, but didn’t he have a great line in one of his presidential debates about not holding his opponent’s youth and inexperience against him? McCain might want to recyle that quip during the debates.
Republican Chick — Will McCain use all the means at hand to bury Obama? Everyone else has pussy footed around for fear of insulting him. I will be a Republican for one day in November so please tell me that McCain will pull out all the stops to win this thing.
Its all above BARRYS pay grade!!!!!!
This is the problem (one of them) with Oblahma. Always trying to be clever and snyde instead of talking frankly about policy.
Paul great video, and Obama dressed as Urkel hillarious.
Wether the forum was relevant or not, it showed that Obama can not discuss issues without a script and a teleprompter.
Wow!
It looks like Obama bombed soundly.
In fact we haven’t seen this much bombing since “shock and awe”.
Good feeling. Obama is being exposed… clounds are gathering.
I like the new theme “Obama Fails”. Seems like he continues to give us material.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIpU9eJwBc
Pass it along folks.
Wow! What a shocking contrast. Obama is just as fried as Bush. Can’t even read off a page or keep his focus through one sentence.
So bad the media went into forget mode.
You are so correct. I was so disappointed last night when I searched the “big” newspapers — the Washington Post and NYTimes — for any frank, decent coverage of the debate. Not to be found. Again, it is the blogs where the meat of the forum was truly dissected. The blogs are surpassing the MSM in their analyses, for the most part.
Agree. Where is CNN? The best political team on television. NOT. They know Obama bombed next to McCain. It was obvious and they will be damned if they will admit it, Makes them look like the “worst political team on television” and that would do a real number on their self-esteem. CNN is pathetic.
David Gergen,said Obama didn’t do well at all..He was very truthful,in Obama’s performance against Mccain.
pewl — I heard that he was tired tsk tsk — such a long plane ride. Not much of an excuse when he is 25 years younger than McCain.
Yes just back from vacation long flight from Hawaii to Chicago and then onto CA…
Get a life Barak my real workers do this every week and they are expected to get up for work weekly… you had been on vacation, tired you need to wake up and see/work in the real world.
Earn a honest living for a Change…. Hope this will all pass over quickly!
Oh, you can bet that if it had been Obama that had been “on” last night, the NY Times, the WaPo and CNN would have been ALL over it!
I’m nearly 50 years old, and I have been following politics closely for a long, long time. I can honestly say that I have never seen the mainstream news media so totally and unabashedly “in the tank” for a particular candidate as they are for Barack Obama this year.
It’s laughable. Fortunately, a clear majority of the American public knows it.
I no longer consider the media mainstream anymore — The National Enquirer has now become more mainstream than they are.
Dan — I’ve found it depressing to have the media so in the tank for a guy who has nothing. If this is an honest election McCain will win in a landslide. He looks like a President–Obama looks like an ex-basketball star. He needs to stop shooting hoops. It makes him look like an overgrown kid.
Which he is- an overgrown “spoiled” kid- just like his pathetic followers in the cult.
Well, they were pretty much in the tank for GWB. Remember that they ignored GWB’s hidden earpiece during one of the debates?
Is this just now hitting the blogosphere that The Indonesian version of “audacity of Hope” has been marketed with a title that means an entirely different thing?
Translated it means “Jihad: Jakarta to the White House”?!?!? Jihad! Meaning to Allah the power?!?!
HOW LONG HAS THIS INFOMATION BEEN OUT THERE MSM?!?!?!
I found this site through a post the other day. I will continue to pass it on. I recommend that everyone read it.
Lying for Islam is exceptable. Here is a sight to go to read about “Taqiyya”. It is very CHILLING and it fits Obama.
The word “Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
curiosity OMG — Sounds like thats the real agenda. Come on McCain.
Obama needs to come down from the Ivory Tower.
Imagine that to not answer a question because of a pay grade, I just sat there in bewilderment at that one, I wonder if Obama becomes President exactly what questions will he be able to answer then, maybe everything will then be above his pay grade.