Saddle Up
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on August 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM in Al Qaeda, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Ellen Degeneres, Flip Flopping, Foreign affairs, GLBT, Iraq, John McCain, Lobbyists
There was a big event last night, one that has not received a lot of press yet. No, I am not talking about the Saddleback Forum in which McCain schooled Obush (see, that’s what happens when Obush doesn’t have Hillary to follow and say, “Uh, what SHE said, except, uh, ah, uh…(Incoherent ramblings which continue for 10 minutes uninterrupted by the fawning Campbell Brown - heck, insert ANY MSM host there.)” Obama/Obush made a BUNCH of ridiculous statements. Here are just a very few, and then I’ll get to the big event: Here is just one:
Q. WHAT’S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT — LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY: WHAT’S THE MOST GUT WRENCHING DECISION YOU’VE EVER HAD TO MAKE AND HOW DID YOU PROCESS THAT, COME TO THAT DECISION?A. WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OPPOSITION TO THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS AS TOUGH A DECISION THAT I’VE HAD TO MAKE NOT ONLY BECAUSE THERE WERE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES BUT ALSO BECAUSE SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS A BAD PERSON AND THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT HE MET AMERICA ILL.
BUT I WAS FIRMLY CONVINCED AT THE TIME THAT WE DID NOT HAVE STRONG EVIDENCE OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT AS I SPOKE TO EXPERTS KEPT ON COMING UP, DO WE KNOW HOW THE SHIITES AND THE SUNNIS AND THE KURDS ARE GOING TO GET ALONG IN A POST SADDAM SITUATION, WHAT’S OUR ASSESSMENT AS TO HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE BATTLE AGAINST TERRORIST LIKE AL-QAEDA, HAVE WE FINISHED THE JOB IN AFGHANISTAN?
SO I AGONIZED OVER THAT AND I THINK QUESTION OF WAR AND PEACE GENERALLY ARE SO PROFOUND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU MEET THE TROOPS, THEY ARE 19, 20, 21-YEAR OLD KIDS AND YOU ARE PUTTING THEM INTO HARM’S WAY THERE IS A SOLEMN OBLIGATION THAT YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO GET THAT DECISION RIGHT.
AND NOW AS THE WAR WENT FORWARD, VERY DIFFICULT ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU KEEP FUNDING THE WAR IF YOU STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IT’S NOT AMERICA’S NATIONAL INTEREST AT THE SAME TIME YOU DON’T WANT TO HAVE TROOPS WHO ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED. SO THAT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THE WAR HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME.
Say WHAT, OBush?? YOU did not have to make ANY decisions on the War in Iraq! YOU were not in the SENATE yet!! How in the WORLD does this guy get away with these blatant lies and mind-boggling (delusional) revisionist history??
Wait - here’s another goody. Oh, dear goddess, McCain is going to have a FIELD day with this statement come August 28th. I’ll show you why after the question and answer:
Q. ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD, THE COMMON GROUND AND COMMON GOOD. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A TIME YOU KNOW A LOT — I’VE SEEN A LOT OF GOOD LEGISLATIONS GETS KILLED BECAUSE OF PARTY LOYALTY. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU WIN(went) AGAINST PARTY LOYALTY AND MAYBE EVEN WIN (went) AGAINST YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST FOR THE GOOD OF AMERICA?
A. WELL, I’LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT IN FACT I WORKED WITH JOHN MCCAIN ON AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE OF CAMPAIGN ETHICS REFORM AND FINANCE REFORM. THAT WASN’T PROBABLY IN MY INTEREST OR HIS FOR THAT MATTER BECAUSE THE TRUTH WAS BOTH DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS OR OF LIKE THE STATUS QUO AND I WAS NEW TO THE SENATE AND IT DIDN’T NECESSARILY ENGENDER A LOT OF POPULARITY WHEN I STARTED SAYING YOU KNOW WE’RE GOING TO ELIMINATE MEALS AND GIFTS FROM CORPORATE LOBBYISTS.
I REMEMBER ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WHOSE NAME WILL BE UNMENTIONED WHO SAID, WELL, WHERE DO YOU EXPECT US TO EAT MCDONALD’S? AND I THOUGHT WELL, ACTUALLY, A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS PROBABLY DO EAT AT MCDONALD’S SO THAT WOULDN’T BE SUCH A BAD THING. BUT I THINK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET A BILL PASSED THAT HASN’T MADE WASHINGTON PERFECT BUT AT LEAST IT MOVING THINGS FORWARD.
Ready? Here is a letter from Senator John McCain to Senator Barack Obama from FEBRUARY 06, 2006 issued as a Press Release:
The Honorable Barack Obama
United States Senate
SH-713
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator Obama:
I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.
As you know, the Majority Leader has asked Chairman Collins to hold hearings and mark up a bill for floor consideration in early March. I fully support such timely action and I am confident that, together with Senator Lieberman, the Committee on Governmental Affairs will report out a meaningful, bipartisan bill.
You commented in your letter about my “interest in creating a task force to further study” this issue, as if to suggest I support delaying the consideration of much-needed reforms rather than allowing the committees of jurisdiction to hold hearings on the matter. Nothing could be further from the truth. The timely findings of a bipartisan working group could be very helpful to the committee in formulating legislation that will be reported to the full Senate. Since you are new to the Senate, you may not be aware of the fact that I have always supported fully the regular committee and legislative process in the Senate, and routinely urge Committee Chairmen to hold hearings on important issues. In fact, I urged Senator Collins to schedule a hearing upon the Senate’s return in January.
Furthermore, I have consistently maintained that any lobbying reform proposal be bipartisan. The bill Senators Joe Lieberman and Bill Nelson and I have introduced is evidence of that commitment as is my insistence that members of both parties be included in meetings to develop the legislation that will ultimately be considered on the Senate floor. As I explained in a recent letter to Senator Reid, and have publicly said many times, the American people do not see this as just a Republican problem or just a Democratic problem. They see it as yet another run-of-the-mill Washington scandal, and they expect it will generate just another round of partisan gamesmanship and posturing. Senator Lieberman and I, and many other members of this body, hope to exceed the public’s low expectations. We view this as an opportunity to bring transparency and accountability to the Congress, and, most importantly, to show the public that both parties will work together to address our failings.
As I noted, I initially believed you shared that goal. But I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party’s effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman Senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness. Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn’t always a priority for every one of us. Good luck to you, Senator.
Sincerely,
John McCain
Ahem. So it would seem that, once again, Obama was lying through his teeth. Like his “My mother was a poor single mother and I grew up without a daddy,” which is ALSO in this transcript regarding his “moral failings.”
Okay - as promised, here is the big event of the night in California. Ellen and Portia Get Married, Obama, on this night, also touched on same-sex marriage. When asked to define marriage, he told Warren, “It’s a union between a man and a woman.”
“For me as a Christian, it is a sacred union. God’s in the mix,” he said.
Obama added that he does support same-sex civil unions, saying, “I can afford those civil rights to others even if I don’t have … that view.”
Gosh, Obush - don’t tell Ellen and Portia that you think MARRIAGE is between a “man and a woman”! The night you made this pandering comment they did just that - so what are you saying to THEM?!?! And how freakin’ magnanimous that you are willing to “afford civil rights to others…” What a guy!! Gee - it must be hard to sleep at night with all that twisting and turning, flipping and flopping…
No wonder Obushits are becoming worried, seeing a tougher path than they thought…We could have told them. Wait - we HAVE been telling them!! After performances like last night’s, this should be another big ol’ WAKE UP CALL for the Superedelegates. This man is NOT COMPETENT to be the Democratic nominee, much less the PRESIDENT. *Ring, ring* - it’s the clue phone, SDs, and it’s for YOU!!!!
PROOF that Obamanation did NOT vote against the Iraq war. See if you can find Waldo!
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 )
Vote Number: 237 Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237
Most astonishing of all: THE MSM completely MISSED THIS. Completely. I scanned the Washington Post article last night. Nada. That was after going to the NYT and not even finding a story titled on the front page.
They’re all going gaga over that swimmer — well, fine — except that he has advantages that no previous swimmer ever had.
In fact, O’Bush is another Phelps…. the media have handed him a “magic swimming suit” so he can swiftly pass all the others.
I`m waiting for him to adopt a white child and argue some relative of his signed the constitution.
Ok, thanks…there went the coffee. Great laugh!
LOMAO…HARP….You mischievious imp….
Good Article Rev. Amy. What does Barry have to say to removing the words Lesbian and Gay from the Demofascist party platform.hmmm….
LMAO!! Please warn us before you do that!
Now I have to clean my keyboard!
When HARP is on a roll….Tis best to keep beverages on a separate surface….chuckle….
Hmm…what advantage does Phelps have against other swimmers?
I think the point is that compared to swimmers before this Olympics, and certainly during Mark Spitz’s time, swimmers did not use caps, they did not have super sleek swimsuits like they do now, and all of that. They even commented on the differences between Mark Spitz and Michael Phelps when the two were being jointly interviewed (never mind training techniques have improved GREATLY since Mark’s time, along with all of the other stuff).
And HARP - I am SO glad I had actually swallowed my cappuccino before I read your comment!!
It’s amazng, isn’t it?? He essentially claimed to be in the US SENATE for that vote! C’mon, already - that is beyond delusional!
ANd you can just see the ac for McCain with the lobby reform - they’ll have Obama’s voice going on and on abt his work with McCain, and McCain’s letter to him up on the screen, at least the first paragraph.
I was originally against Obama simply because I thought he was a waif in the woods that would be totally in over his head a president, just like Jimmy Carter was. But lately I’ve come to believe that he’s also a conniving, duplicitious, lying scumbag. God help us if he actually gets elected.
Ehemm…Welcome to the….FRINGE…Dan R…..Hope your clinging skills are up to par….chuckle….
*** OBAMA IS A FASCIST AND UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ***
Obama is a fascist?
McCain is the guy with deep, current connections to a fascist, warmongering, neoconservative organization: the Project for a New American Century. These are the guys that brought you the War in Iraq. These are the guys with a plan for Iran. And these are the guys who are currently pushing NATO into former Soviet block nations, right on Russia’s borders. These are the guys who might bring you World War III.
Ditto.
While I think Obama is not qualified by any number of measures, to be president, he did not claim to be in the US Senate at the time of his opposition to the war.
He said that his decison had political consequences. Nothing less and nothing more.
Perhaps he was referring to his desire to run for the Senate at that time.
He does enough stuff to thoroughly disqualify himself, one doesn´t have to put words in his mouth.
maybe if you read a little bit more you’d know that this is just one of many times he’s referred to “opposing” the war, and has a history of stating “I voted against the war”.
I was replying to the response to his comments of last night, period. So much for the ¨many times¨ qualification of your response.
As for my reading a bit more, well I shall let that pass.
I put my time in the service… 8 years on active duty, likely before you were born and earned the right to comment and/or oppose anything I wish.
As for the war in Iraq, this old man was demonstrating in Tulsa (my home before retiring) by standing on street corners with many, many others carrying signs in opposition to the war in an effort to forestall the decision to invade Iraq.
What did you do to oppose it, if I may be so bold as to ask?
It’s a sin of omission. When he speaks of his position, he never clarifies that he had no ability at that time to cast a Senate vote. He encourages people make an assumption. Because he sort of popped up from nowhere (for most of us) unless you know about him, it gets related to his being a US Senator.
I agree that he as enough other baggage to disqualify himself but people put words into his mouth because he tends to leave out the relevant ones.
I’ve had numerous Obamabot claim that Obama has been a US Senator for 12 years. Different people, different places — and they all came up with that statement. “It’s on his website — go to his website”. Is also a favorite reply to any questioning of Obamaling’s positions.
Although we know Obama hasn’t been in the US Senate long, and that his role in the Illinois Senate was was puffed up to pad his resume — Obama has successfully presented another reality to his followers.
At this point Obamaling is probably delusional enough to believe his own BS.
The word delusional gave me and idea. I will now call Oliar, Dr. Delusional. Why not? He pretends to be what he is not so I’ll label him Dr. Kind of like mad scientist Dr.
Dr. Delusional…or should we call Dean that?
“I’ve had numerous Obamabot claim that Obama has been a US Senator for 12 years.”
WHAT??!??
That bold-faced liar got elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004!!! He was in NO elected U.S. Congressional position to vote for the Iraq war!!!
And just where in HELL do these douche-bag Obamabots get these lies from???
They’re probably stealing John F. Kennedy’s resume. Or mixing them up, but you can thank Obama himself for not bothering to correct that assumption/mistake and for fostering the whole “I am John Kennedy” crap.
annie
He began his entire candidacy based on some speech he gave in 2002 saying he was against the war. Again, just words and no one of any importance during that time even knew about him or this speech. Joe Wilson, a Clinton supporter and the man who courageously wrote the NYT editorial refuting Bush’s uranium from Niger claim stated that at that time there were very few media or politicians going up against Bush and since he was one of them he would certainly have heard if BO was on the scene. This guy is a PHONY, from the beginning. When he did get in the Senate he voted to keep funding the war, what a joke. “It’s only words and words are all I have to take this nomination.”
Obama says that “the opposition to the war in Iraq was as tough a decision that I’ve had to make . . . because there were political consequences . . .”
What exactly did Obama do to oppose the war? In 2002, he gave a speech at an anti-Iraq war rally in Chicago. This is what NPR had to say:
The speech was given at an anti-war rally on Oct. 2, 2002…..Jessie Jackson was the main speaker. Obama’s speech went mainly unnoticed. He had not yet announced his run for the Senate, although now he claims he risked his political career. Of course we know that there was NO risk in running against Alan Keyes, all Obama had to do was breathe..
There was no video of the speech. Any video you see has been a recreation.
That’s the extent of Obama’s “gut wrenching” decision. He attended no marches. He made no other speeches. He was not a member of the US Senate at the time so could not vote.
In July 2004, he had this to say: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.”
At the 2004 Democratic National Convention, he said, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know.”
I don’t think Obama has ever in his life made a gut-wrenching decision. I don’t think he cares deeply enough about anything, except himself, to be gut-wrenched!
Bill Clinton was right. Obama’s stance against the war was, and is, a fairy tale.
I don’t see how that position had political consequences except that he is now able to use it to get on the ticket since he is a one-issue candidate.
Can’t you people even read? The friggin transcript is right here. He did not say he voted against the war. He said he did not support the war. The ends you go to to bend the truth to fit your little lies is sick.
So, by looking at the US’s own Senate record; I see that one Illinois Senator - Senator Durbin voted against he was with Irag and the other voted for the war. Hmmmmmm
I cannot believe that THIS MAN TRIED TO SLIP IN THE FACT THAT HE VOTED ON THIS MEASSURE WHEN HE WAS NOT EVEN A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS. WHERE DOES HE JUST GET OFF? if HE SAYS IT THEN IT BECOMES GOSPEL/ I REALLY FIND THIS MAN A DISGRACE TO THIS PARTY AND A DISGRACE TO OUR USA BY EVEN ENTERTAINING THE NOTION THAT THIS IDIOT COULD BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. WAKE UP PLEASE AMERICA AND SUPERDELEGATES HAVE SOME GUMPPTION AND STAND UP FOR OUR AMERICA ISN’T THAT WHAT OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING YOU TO DO? GO BACK TO THE 16TH DISTRICT OF CHICAGO and crawl under a rock and organize THE USA DOES NOT NEED YOUR MISGUIDED INEPT “JUST WORD” BCRAP!!!IT IS SIMPLE WE EITHER MAKE THE CHANGE IN Denver OR IT IS GOING TO CHANGE IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR McCain!
DOOH !…..This was how Barry increased his momentum into the national spotlight….THIS IS THE FAIRY TALE WJC WAS TALKIN ABOUT….Obfuscation is a common tactic taught in Law School and aint’ just for breakfast anymore…
Living in Chicago in March, 2003 and having a clear memory of the events that unfolded the day his “headline speech” was made, it’s more than a fairytale, it’s an outright lie! We must remember he represented the Hyde Park community of Chicago. Hyde Park, where on every newsstand, Mother Jones is displayed next to the Sun Times. What else could he say? The rally was lead by Jesse Jackson and he was one of many speakers that evening. The streets of downtown Chicago were closed because of protesters and there were several anti war rally’s held that night. This one where he made his famous speech was not even covered by the local media. He was an announced canidate for the senate at that time not expected to win the nomination, yet this was the speech that lead us here.
Again, I recall this like it was yesterday, because that night cost me a $5,000 deposit for an event I was holding for a local canidate and it had to be canceled because of the protest. Also, he was an invited speaker and had RSVP that he would attend. And, by the way the canidate I was holding the event for was covered that night on every local station.
Excellent OBSP…..thanks for the info….
So that is why Jesse is so ticked off? He led the rally and no doubt spoke out strongly against the war and now Barack JR. CLAIMS (with no substantiation) to have given the definitive anti-war speech that is the basis of his claim on the Presidency.
Given John McCain’s letter, these experienced older politicians had a lot in common - they were both used by Obama to further his enormous ambition.
Fairy tales indeed.
I agree OBSP. Almost the entire city was anti-war. What Obama said and did was equal to standing up at a Cubs game and declaring “The Cubs are gonna win the World Series”. If he was wrong no biggie he was playing to the audience. Unbelievable the amount of mileage he is getting out of this. Shortly after this I was at a bar on Bourban street, (Chicago for those who are not aware), when a rather obnoxious drunk went on a tirade about the war. He then vomited and passed out. I wonder where this guy is, I wonder if he is aware that because of his drunken tirade, he could be a shoe in for elected office. The whole thing is much ado about nothing. Yet this is the sole reason millions of minions are voting for him. “Fairy Tale” is a vast understatement it is a real “American Tragedy”.
Where were you when everybody “jumped” on WJC
for his comment about Barack’s “fairy tale”
with regard to the Iraq war?
Why don’t you hit the airwaves at FoxNews NOW? There’s still time to put his actions in proper relation to reality…cause based on his “words” at Saddleback…he doesn’t.
Working Class Artist
I disagree with you. Law School is certainly not the place they teach obfuscation and muddled thinking! They do teach you how to think precisely, clearly and to get to the bloody point by ignoring the multitude of Facts and going for the Issue! That takes analytical skills, not confused minds.
I must confess to you, though, that my confusion stems from fact that I can’t see how Obambi even got through the first semester’s exams! He’s a typical English major (no offence, I was one too in another life!) and, as such, he employes the Virginia Woolf “free narrative” with his prose flying all over the place unstructured…bla bla. His stutteringly obvious lack of comprehension of the issues discussed during the debates with Hillary and his attempt to answer the questions were not really intentionally confusing by him. He just can’t think logically, and can’t respond in a thorough, issue-oriented fashion like Hillary!
He’s a perennial 1st Year University Student.
My question: How the hell did he get in Harvard Law School. Was it under Affirmative Action or as mature student based on his “community thugging” work?! I’m mystified!
Obambi is a confused individual. How could he ever give clear answers when he doesn’t even know who he is? But he’s arrogant and narcissistic enough to go for the Top Job anyway!
Obambi’s best career move is to revise his anorexic resume and submit to SNL for the rapper-wannabe’s job! He has my references for the two skills he needs:
FLIP-FLOPPING and
FLIP-OFFING
Let’s hope that this arrogant misogynist rat is sent packing back to the Chicago political sewers that nourished Him!…
Nobama ‘08
*not an obamatroll! honest, Larry!
To paraphrase an old adage:
A madman builds castles in the air.
A neurotic lives in them.
Someone suffering from NPD declares himself ruler of them.
And a lazy electorate believes them all as long as there’s a :30 video clip on the same device that regularly shows the world being blown up and people being shot one week and fully recovered the next.
Why do we believe anything we see on TV? It was designed to show us fantasy, and has never strayed from it’s original goal.
Bbbbut….Grail….TEEVEE makes things More Real than Real…mkay ?…lol
Obama didn’t say that. If you had actually bothered to listen to his presentation last night you would know what he said. If you bothered to read a transcript you would know what he said.
I need to remind all of you..Obama made a speech..he was not an elected member of the US Senate at the time of the vote to give the President war powers in case the UN Peacekeepers found something. 90 US Senators signed that bill to give GB authorization to use those powers. Mrs Clinton voiced her opposition to using the power prematurely, which ultimately Bush did. She and the majority of Congressional Members agreed that the threat Saddam posed was real based on the doctored intelligence proffered by Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush.
Obama never voted on that resolution in the Senate. Since his election to the Senate-he has voted exactly the same way Clinton, Biden, Kerry and others voted with regard to the funding.
>>>>AT THE SAME TIME YOU DON’T WANT TO HAVE TROOPS WHO ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED.
Obama parrots a rightwing talking point!
Voting against war funding and supporting withdrawal did not include leaving troops on the battlefield without food and bullets!!!
NObama!
If making a speech against the war qualifies you to run for president, then several hundred of my companions and I, who spoke out against the war in 2003, are more qualified than Obama.
None of us see anything special about what he did because he could have used his stature as an Illinois State Senator to speak out forcefully and often against Bush’s plans. But he didn’t so he has no right to a moral highground.
Did you know that Obama’s famous anti war speech was given on behest of a Marxist friend of Obama for a group called “Chicagoans Against the War” a coalition of radical labor, marxist and socialist groups in Chicago………? Isn’t that copying or AKA plagarism? Does the man write anything that is truly his and his alone?
PROOF THAT OBAMA COMPLETELY DID AN ABOUT FACE ON HIS “VOTE AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR”:
(New York Times 7/26/04) :”I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘What would I have done? I don’t know…”
[Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04] :”…There’s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage.”
[The New Yorker, 10/30/06) :”…I didn’t have the benefit of U.S. intelligence. And, for those who did, it might have led to a different set of choices. So that might be something that sort of is obvious. But, again, we were in different circumstances at that time: I was running for the U.S. Senate, she had to take a vote, and casting votes is always a difficult test.”
WHEN OBAMA TAKES CREDIT FOR HIS STATEMENT AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR (in his part time job in the Illinois State Senate) HE FAILS TO MENTION THAT, LIKE JUDAS, HE COMPLETELY TURNED HIS BACK ON THIS “VOTE” WHEN THE WAR WAS ACCEPTABLE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ONE ANCHOR/PUNDIT CHALLENGE HIM ON THIS!
Ai1een,
Yes. Obambi was challenged on his inconsistencies by I believe Olberman and Anderson! It’s on yotube, but can’t recall title. I’m sure you’ll find it, tho! Incredible chutzpah this guy has! He lies with a straight face. Could he really be the Messia. Maybe that’s why he’s doing the Evangelical tour these days…Zeus help us!…
Let’s see, what happened in mid-July 0f 2004? Why the Democratic National Convention. At which Obama gave a speech. How did the Democratic nominee (Kerry) vote on the Iraq war resolution? In favor of it. So it is clear to any person with half a brain that Obama as using the intelligence reports as a way to make cover so he would not have to contradict the vote of the Democratic nominee. It’s called being a team player (putting your agenda behind that of the nominee at the convention at which you gave a speech.)
Had Obama not made cover and came out strongly against the resolution om contract to the nominee, everyone here would hold that against him as well. Typical screw him if he does, screw him if he does not blogging.
Ted - You’re damx right all of his backtracking took place at the time of the Democratic Convention!!! DUH? Who DOESN’T know that…especially on this site. Sadly, YOU are the one who is missing the point entirely. Obama said last night, essentially, that he was proud of himself because he stood up AGAINST the status quo and voted his CONSCIENCE and how difficult and daring that was for him.Everyone knows that the cornerstone of Obama’s entire Presidential campaign is based upon this BOGUS claim (i.e. FAIRY TALE)that he “voted” against the Iraq war. Yet, you are saying that when the Convention came around and Obama did a complete 180 on this stance, we are all supposed to “understand” that he did this to support the team. Bullshix. Obama is staking his ENTIRE candidacy on the fact that he (supposedly) has the INTEGRITY to stand up against all odds and vote for what’s RIGHT. If that is so, then he should have been able to stay true to his belief with a few measley reporters. He did not. Obama backed away from his anti-war stance because that stance did not serve the OBAMA MISSION at that point in time.PERIOD and OBAMA serves OBAMA…PERIOD.
Obama, like Bush, is creating a fiction by repeating the same thing over and over again as if said enough times it will be true. Sad part is that occasional listeners and readers may only hear the lie and never hear the real story.
We have suffered 8 years of embarrassment from BUSH.
Now we have a candidate, Obush, who is a further embarassment. OKAY. The jokes over. Get him off the stage.
Eight years of Bush, and you’re gonna vote for McCain because you think his democratic opponent is Bush?
Maybe you should all consider having CT scans.
I could compile a list of important points where Bush and McCain are absolutely identical longer than Yoa Ming’s right arm.
So what is it that makes Obama Bush?
They’re both dumb as two sacks of hammers and they both think they are God’s gift to the world.
why do i get the feeling that every time an obama supporter is presented with factual information that clearly shows obama is a loser, their subconscious mind tells them:
You’re not going to let me live that down are you Garfield? Haha. If it makes you feel any better, I got hammered by a bot after going after you.
as felines, we must unite and stick together as a cohesive unit!meow. . . i mean ROAR!
(LOL. Have to have some fun during this season or else we will go batty.)
One of those predictable little mantras, that takes the place of analytical thought…
That’s exactly the sort of thing that put Bush in office and kept him there for a second term. It’s exactly the sort of thing the republicans are relying on to put McCain in office when Bush leaves.
What does Jesus think about lying?
Hmmm….Martin I think that would depend on which Jesus you’re talkin about..
If you mean the Historical Jesus ( A jewish Prophet who most main stream christians recognize as the Christ predicted in the Old Testament )…..Well this Jewish Jesus who was a sharp critic of HYPOCRITES would be very upset…..
If you mean TUCC’s Jesus who is A BLACK GHETTO FREEDOM FIGHTER FIGHTING JEWS AND ROMANS AGAINST CRACKER OPPRESSION OF THOSE IN THE HOOD…..then Lying in order to overthrow Imperialist Eurocentric Crackers might be justified in the PLAN to KILL GOD…..according to Uncle Jerry and his friend Ayatollah Louis….
Also lying for Islam is exceptable. Here is a sight to go to read about “Taqiyah”. It is very chilling and it fits Obama.
The word “Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
Things are addin up….so to speak….Cuzin Kaddafi and Ayatollah Louis as well as Uncle Jerry have gotta be so proud of Lil’ Barry Soeteroobama…no ?
Thanks for this site and article. It reveals Obama for what he is. He uses every technique discribed in this article. Everyone needs to e-mail the SUPERs this site over and over. They need to be swamped with this before the convention. Maybe the film covering their sight will be lifted in time.
If Obama is using this as his guide, then the next question to discuss is: How many Democratic leadership members does he have something on, like Edwards sudden change of support for Obama after West Virginia; remember how Elizabeth Edwards was speaking out in support of Hillary? Does anyone have any special line of communication to Elizabeth Edwards? What would she have to lose now if she told the truth about “why her husband conveniently came out in support of Obama at a critical time in the primaries.”
Couldn’t say it better myself, WCA!!
Oh - and lying is a violation of one of the BIG TEN, so there’s that…
The Historical Jesus made it all so simple….Love the Lord God With All You’ve Got…..and Love Your Neighbor AS You Love Yourself….
In the end…GAY RIGHTS Will have to be acknowledged as a CIVIL RIGHT by the AA Clergy/Politicians….Just Like WOMENS RIGHTS….WHY ?
Because JESUS SEZ….NOBODY HAS A CORNER ON GOD….AND HUMAN RIGHTS APPLIES TO ……WELL…..HUMANS…..( paraphrasing here )
AA Clergy/Politcians just don’t want to share the pie with anybody….AA Clergy/Politicians act as if Civil Rights is a patented Concept that they own
THEOCRACY IS JUST ANOTHER FORM OF FASCISM…..JUST SAY NO
And Number I has long been thrown under the Bus.
Moses is probably rolling in his off-to-the-side grave.
This Jesus in the second paragraph frightens me.
/runs and hides
I think Obama has discovered a new medical condition…RBS…..Restless Brain Syndrome.
It always pissed me off….Barry’s obvious manipulation of confusion within young or ignorant voters with the term senate/senator and never making the distinction of FEDERAL vs STATE….The MSM NEWSPORN was actively complicit
and this is a big part of the formula of Barry’s RISE ON A SEA OF BULLSHIT…and will be instrumental in Barry’s EXILE TO POLITICAL OBSCURITY….Where Gary Hart and John Edwards are serving Cocktails on the Ledo Deck….chuckle….
I can’t wait until Barry joins them. The wait for a fru fru drink here on the Lido deck ridiculous.
Off topic, but I just heard NM Richardson aka Judas state that she would have a roll call and that she WILL pledge her delegates to O. Any thoughts?
Apparently he is hosting 2 fundraisers in NM to help retire the debt. He stated he had been uneasy until the details of assigning HRC’s delegates to O.
Judas has OD’d on the koolaid. Since when are delegates sheep to be led from one pasture to another? What is this myth that is being perpetuated? All Hillary can do is release her delegates from their obligations to her. She can’t force them to vote for Barky Soretoes.
That is my point…why is the myth continuously being perpetuated by O’s camp? What am I thinking? Barky doesn’t even know reality.
Barry knows it….He is counting on the laziness of his typical supporters…
Text message Foreign Policy anybody….chuckle….
Ha! AS IF Hillary is gonna tell Judas Richardson ANYTHING about what she’s gonna do! His job for bambi is to spread the propaganda du jour - and to dig the knife into the Clintons as far as his fat hands can stick it - he knows NOTHING.
If either of the Clintons EVER speak to that a-hole again, I’d be quite disappointed - and surprised.
you are soooooo right. Here in New Mexico, Hillary won, Richardson had made speeches prior to the win that he would support whoever the constituents (we voters) voted for. The lying POS, flipped on Hillary hoping to get in good with Obama. I hope he gets a job scrubbing toilets at the White House if Obama wins. But, just a dream as McCain will kick Obama’s and Richardson’s butt all over the map in November!
People who have constructed their past lives in order to present themselves in the most palatable way have the problem of keeping their story straight. That’s what is happening with Obomoron.
I have a mentally ill friend who frequently see something in a movie then assimilates it as an experience she has has herself. The problem is, the next week she sees a different movie, and her “experience” is entirely different. This is so reminiscent of Obama that it’s eerie. From a medical standpoint, I believe this is related to his NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). It is not uncommon for those suffering from mental disorders to suffer from more than one at a time.
So I do not condemn Senator Obama for the symptoms of his medical condition, but I also cannot support him in any public capacity, nonetheless President of the US.
Who I do condemn are the morons who are ignoring his condition and foisting him on the American people. (And before people go off on me, I don’t hold Obama blameless - at least my friend is willing to openly admit she has a problem and seek treatment.) I am beginning to wonder if Obama is not being used because people like Dean, Farrakhan, Ayers, Soros, et al. realize he has a disease that most Americans do not recognize.
In any case, this must be stopped before we have a literal madman trying to run this country. What these people don’t understand is that once he elected, they will no longer be able to control him, and they will have handed him the world on a silver platter. The last time this happened, more than 6 million were systematically murdered to appease the paranoia of the madman.
IF he would release his medical records, along with
the birth certificate
his Selective service enrollement
his passportS
his change of name record
his records from ILL Senate
etc
etc
etc
We would be able to see what mental conditions he has been diagnosed with and probably add to the list of those he should be tested for.
Of course he won’t release any of that (which should make him ineligible for nomination) so we won’t know until after the convention when the GOP releases it for him.
Chiten,
I have come to accept the fact that the Democratic Party nomination is a fait accompli for Obama. I can only pray that the Republicans will truly unleash the demons after the convention. I’m having severe doubts that they don’t consider an Obama presidency good for their overall scheme.
We need complete medical records. I have been saying since the beginning of the primaries that Fraudbama is mentally ill.
katmandu — that is the real problem for Obama. McCain and Hillary can speak about issues without getting tongue tied because they have core beliefs which don’t change with every audience. Obama’s only core belief is winning and making sure he is the same as his opponent on every issue. He has done this for a long time–but now he looks lost as the media finally calls him on his lies. I can’t see why any liberal would vote for him as he backtracked on everything he promised. If this is post modern politics–I will take the old fashioned kind.
I think the Primary season needs to start a little later than Christmas. Super Tuesday was so early that nobody knew what kind of scum Obama was soon enough. If they had, we wouldn’t be having this trouble right now.
The DNC needs to set a date, after Groundhog’s day or something and let states go in whatever order they want to go in instead of favoring certain ones. If every state goes on the same day, so be it. Of course if they all go on the same day, it shouldn’t be three or four months before the convent