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Finally: Personal Vindication, But an Unsolvable Problem Looms for the Democratic Party

Last winter, following my own original research on Barack Obama’s views on abortion, which required days of laborious searches of every possible resource as well as serious fact-checking, I stumbled, by chance, on the fact that Obama had voted present, and then nay, on Illinois state senate bills related to the extremely rare instances in which an infant is born alive following an abortion. (I’m pro-choice, and even attended a friend’s NARAL meetings during my own pregnancy 20+ years ago, but that issue is a no-brainer: One makes every effort possible to save the infant’s life. If I had a late-term abortion (personally unlikely unless there were the most exceptional circumstances), the live birth of my infant is an outcome with which I would be prepared to live.)

After I had lined up all of my facts, I published the findings at some “left” blogs, and here. The attacks were immediate, and vicious. ONE key point I had made in my article was that Sen. Hillary Clinton and then-senator John Edwards both voted for the “live birth” law — in fact the ENTIRE U.S. Senate voted unanimously for the “live birth” measure. Obama’s devotees explained his state senate votes (actually, they ranted) by informing me that it was what Planned Parenthood had TOLD him to do. (Let me get this right: A lobbying group instructed him? And he just blindly went along? Without using an iota of common sense about the ramifications? He — the man with enormous political ambitions — didn’t THINK OUT the future fall-out? He didn’t know, in an instant, that this would come back to haunt him? NONE OF THIS MADE ANY SENSE to me.)

Why did I write that story last winter? Why did I dare to publish that story in a hostile environment? I wanted to WARN fellow Democrats that this was an issue that the GOP could successfully use against Obama, and not only with conservatives but also with ANY liberal with a heart, and most especially any parent, no matter if the parent is a Republican or Democrat. Furthermore, the second Illinois state senate bill — the one that state senator Obama voted NAY on — was IDENTICAL to that passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate.

Today, I wake up and find out that the MSM has begun to discover exactly what I knew in 2007. There are numerous media reports (check Memeorandum.com). The article I choose to feature is that by David Freddoso, the author of the new book on Obama — which happens (and isn’t this interesting) to be the ONLY book that the Obama camp does not attack. Why is the Obama campaign not attacking that book? Might it be because a true journalist has written a truthful book? Could the REAL AGENDA of the Obama camp behind its all-out attack on blowhard Jerome Corsi’s book be because they wish to divert attention from David Freddoso’s far better book?

In today’s “Life Lies: Barack Obama and Born-Alive.,” Mr. Fredosso — who earned a master’s degree in journalism from Columbia University, one of the toughest journalism schools to get into in the nation — writes:

In 2001, Senator Barack Obama was the only member of the Illinois senate to speak against a bill that would have recognized premature abortion survivors as “persons.” The bill was in response to a Chicago-area hospital that was leaving such babies to die. Obama voted “present” on the bill after denouncing it. It passed the state Senate but died in a state house committee.

In 2003, a similar bill came before Obama’s health committee. He voted against it. But this time, the legislation was slightly different. This latter version was identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which by then had already passed the U.S. Senate unanimously (with a hearty endorsement even from abortion advocate Sen. Barbara Boxer) and had been signed into law by President Bush. …

Fredosso then addresses Sen. Obama’s immediate predicament:

Sen. Obama is currently misleading people about what he voted against, specifically claiming that the bill he voted against in his committee lacked “neutrality” language on Roe v. Wade. The bill did contain this language. He even participated in the unanimous vote to put it in.

Obama’s work against the bill to protect premature babies represents one of two times in his political career, along with his speech against the Iraq war, that he really stuck out his neck for something that might hurt him politically. Unlike his Iraq speech, Obama is deeply embarrassed about this one — so embarrassed that he is offering a demonstrable falsehood in explanation for his actions. Fortunately, the documents showing the truth are now available.

At the end of last week, Obama gave an interview to CBN’s David Brody in which he repeated the false claim that the born-alive bills he worked, spoke, and voted against on this topic between 2001 and 2003 would have negatively affected Roe v. Wade. This has always been untrue, but, until last week, it appeared to be a debatable point that depended on one’s interpretation of the bill language. Every single version of the bill was neutral on Roe. Each one affected only babies already born, not ones in the womb.

“Every single version of the bill was neutral on Roe.” That is NOT what Obama’s devoted followers have been telling you, is it?

What is worse is that Obama made this disastrous decision as late as 2003:

But in 2003, in the health committee which he chaired, Obama voted against a version of the bill that contained the specific “neutrality” language — redundant language affirming that the bill only applied to infants already born and granted no rights to the unborn. You can visit the Illinois legislature’s website here to see the language of the “Senate Amendment 1,” which was added in a unanimous 10-0 vote in the committee before Obama helped kill it. This is the so-called “neutrality clause” on Roe that everyone is talking about:

Mr. Freddoso then provides the actual language of the state senate bill, as well as the TRUE history of eyewitnesses to the Illinois state senate deliberations.

Here is a link to the single-page version of Mr. Freddoso’s entire article today.

This saga reveals far too many disturbing problems about Mr. Obama’s character and decision-making abilities:

(1) He took orders, supposedly, from a lobbying group without thinking through the ramifications;

(2) He let lobbying money determine his vote on a matter that is highly sensitive and disturbing to ALL human beings, not just to right-to-life zealots;

(3) He didn’t consider how people would instantly react to the entire idea — that no one, in the extremely rare instances in which an infant might happen to be born alive following an abortion, would ever set an infant down on a table and let it die without doing everything possible to keep it alive. Only the cruelest person would ever do such a thing. It has NOTHING to do with politics. It has EVERYTHING to do with having a heart.

(4) And now he is repeatedly lying about those incredibly ill-advised and illogical decisions during his tenure as a part-time state senator.

It is bad enough that he didn’t think through the implications of his votes in the 1990s and as late as 2003.

It is worse that he has taken out a shovel, and is digging himself in deeper.

All of this, both his past bad decisions and his current ill-advised decision to prevaricate, will profoundly affect voters — no matter their liberal or conservative preferences.

Mr. Freddoso concludes his article with this additional proof, and a sad repetition of Mr. Obama’s continuing lies:

[A]fter the above amendment was added to change the original bill, making it identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, Obama and five other Democrats voted to kill it. They killed the same bill that the U.S. Senate had passed unanimously. Here is the interview in which Sen. Obama offers his false explanation once again, which is contradicted not only by eyewitnesses but also by the records of his own committee:

…I hate to say that people are lying, but here’s a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported — which was to say — that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born - even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade.

The senator is right. Someone is lying.

And now it is left to the Democratic party to clean up the mess it has created for itself.

Good luck, DNC. You’re going to need it.

You did not properly vet this man.

You ignored articles such as mine and Larry Johnson’s.

We were not consumed with hatred, as you chose to believe.

We were genuinely worried that you were missing the opportunity to elect a truly qualified candidate whose life was already an open book, and who wouldn’t be subjected to the fact-checking in the HEAT of a post-primary presidential campaign.

Have you forgotten that the entire purpose of a long primary contest is to VET THE CANDIDATES?

Have you forgotten that the importance of a LONG primary contest is to give people the time needed to stop “falling in love” with a candidate — to get past the honeymoon phase — and to really take a HARD look at the candidate?

Here’s a news flash: Not only is the honeymoon over, but you are walking down the aisle and into a BAD MARRIAGE.

But note that I just wrote that you are still “walking down the aisle.”

There is time to turn around and walk out.

You have precisely one week left to come to your senses.

Will you react like too many brides and grooms? Will you worry about all the guests you’ve already invited? Will you fret about the caterers and wedding planners you’ve already paid? Will you be too afraid to confront your soon-to-be spouse?

Or will you save yourself, at the last instant, from the worst mistake of your lives?

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Comment by Colleen | 2008-08-18 10:20:47

Outstanding!!! Will The DNC ever wake up? What is wrong with them. Obama will lose in November over this issue alone.

Comment by timepassages | 2008-08-18 10:47:25

I will be on Ed hales radio show tonight at 6 pm Mountain time. here is the link to call in.

http://www.plainsradio.com/

Comment by Hillary is Genius | 2008-08-18 10:49:16

Hillary is voting for Obama.

She’s a genius.

Larry Johnson?

Not so much.

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-18 11:40:07

shut up you fucking ASSHOLE. You stupid ass ungrateful and unpatriotic bots never cease to amaze me. You never address anything said about Obama, you just say stupid, trivial, non sensical shit. Go crawl back in your maggot infested hole.

 

Comment by cdo | 2008-08-18 11:42:13

Hillary is campaigning for Obama

because that’s her job, genius.

Larry Johnson and other private citizens?

Free to vote as they please!

thanks for playing, better luck next time.

 

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-08-18 12:37:49

“Hillary is voting for Obama.”

But the majority of Americans will vote for John McCain in November.

That’s all that matters.

Comment by chandler | 2008-08-18 13:37:16

Bet she pulls the lever FOR MCCAIN you T-ball generation entitlement freaks.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-08-18 14:14:21

“T-ball Generation!”
F**king Excellent… so descriptive of the candy-ass, whiny little shits who so desperately need the spanking they’re gonna get this fall.
Great comment…

 
 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 15:42:45

And you?

You’re so frightened about the outcome, because you know–and so does Hillary–that her die-hard supporters are NOT gonna go along and vote for your Messiah.

That’s why you’re here, to do a little “Nanny nanny boo boo” number, hoping to depress opposition, and persuade us to “go along and get along.”

All your hectoring does, though, is show us how truly afraid you are.

We measure your fear by your numbers here. And you poor fools are VERY AFRAID, apparently!

You, personally, rate a seven point nine on the PUMA FEAR meter!

 

Comment by Liz B | 2008-08-18 20:09:34

Shouldn’t you be on Daily Kos?

I did my research on Obama and discovered information on Born Alive way back in late January. I wrote letteres to USA Today, The Washington Post and I blogged on numerous sights about it. I knew then, that this would be THE deal breaker should he get the nomination. Why did the Newspapers refuse to print letters on it? Research it for themselves? I don’t know. I also wrote Sean Hannity, who I have heard repeating almost verbatem my pleas on the air in the last week…with hannity I can at least understand the political motivation to sit on the info until August, after all he is Conservative and he like most Republicans did not want to face Hillary in the fall, but why did fair and impartial publications choose to ignore any damning info like this? They have all been in the tank for Obama all along, and so is AOL. Nowadays it’s not only accepted but expected from a Newsperson to give us their viewpoints as the facts we should base our decisions on, the unvarnished truth might cause us to think for ourselves (God Forbid)! Glad it is out now, but Teflon boy will probably spin it by the end of the week as something he was against all along and he even opposed the Prfesident and John McCain on it!!!!

 

Comment by jc | 2008-08-20 06:30:33

Bo has a BO problem. His stench is far reaching. so BO fan, deal with this. Senator Clinton is a genius despite the fact that she must back BO, but I don’t know ANYONE who is voting for BO in my circle, my area etc…
so knock yourself out because you’re in trouble!
J.

 
 
 

Comment by Dr. bobbi Anne White | 2008-08-18 15:22:22

the Obama campaign had to admit Barry was lying on BAIPA at Saddleback
http://jillstanek.com

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-18 18:06:20

Of course he was lying. His vote against BAIPA was well-documented. Goes to show he he will say or do whatever is politically expedient. He does not operate from prinicpals or beliefs. He is the ultimate politician. I want a LEADER. NOBAMA!

 
 

Comment by PewL | 2008-08-18 22:20:46

If the baby was born,and lived for 45 minutes,without care,someone should be responsible for it dying…Isn’t this a murderous act…Didn’t doctors take an oath to save all beings…. There’s a nurse that held the baby in question,for 45 minutes…She will be interviewed this week with Sean Hannity…That story of the baby being born, and thrown in a linen closet,was discusting..I think if an Abortion goes bad, and the baby lives,than this is still a child of God,and should be given every opportunity of LIFE..

Shame on Obama,for not knowing what he was doing.

 
 

Comment by NoTrollZone | 2008-08-18 10:21:52

Do superdelegates have souls?
If so, they’d better vote for Hillary and save the party before it collapses entirely.
Thanks for this post Susan. Thanks for your tireless work.
Perhaps I should have asked, “can superdelegates read?”

Comment by etc. | 2008-08-18 11:54:39

No. They sold their souls for money from Obama’s PAC. They’re bought and paid for.

 
 

Comment by kat in your hat | 2008-08-18 10:26:35

Yes, I agree, listen up DNC:

“There is time to turn around and walk out.

You have precisely one week left to come to your senses.

Will you react like too many brides and grooms? Will you worry about all the guests you’ve already invited? Will you fret about the caterers and wedding planners you’ve already paid? Will you be too afraid to confront your soon-to-be spouse?

Or will you save yourself, at the last instant, from the worst mistake of your lives?”–SusanUnPC

 

Comment by HARP | 2008-08-18 10:27:26

When I see Dean and Pelosi, I`m reminded of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eow041tUPBA&feature=related

Comment by simanov | 2008-08-18 11:09:35

Nancy Pelosi, who called him “a leader that God has blessed us with at this time.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_I_will_win.html

Comment by fif | 2008-08-18 12:16:57

More Messiah nonsense. Pelosi has to got to go. She has lost all credibility. No wonder her approval rating is at 4%. I wouldn’t even give her that.

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-08-18 14:40:43

How about minus zero? She’s become a disgrace.

I was so proud of her when she took the gavel that day upon her installation as Speaker. Always a rabid Dem but never a Feminist, still I wept seeing a woman take that role.

How the mighty have fallen.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-08-18 18:14:30

Never a feminist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women are so damned stupid when they make this remark.

Are you not a human being?

Sorry — cover yourself with with a shroud.

Too bad the men folk let you use this Internet -thing.

/snark

 
 
 

Comment by JoseyJ | 2008-08-18 12:19:00

Perhaps Trinity Church choir will sing and McClurkin will speak at the convention.
Gotta include “everyone” - ya know.

 

Comment by helen | 2008-08-18 12:26:44

Botox paralyses your muscles.
I think pelosi misused it.
It should not be injected into your brain.
Like any drug misuse it causes judgement problems.
Pelosi should step down due to health problems.
I don’t know if dean is on drugs or not but he seems to have a bad case of foot in mouth disease.
He also should step down due to health problems.
brazille is just a racist hate filled person with no redeeming value.
she should step down for the good of the country.
backtrack needs some more time with his cousin to truly understand how good it is to live in America and the oportunities everyone has in this country.

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 15:47:06

She’s nuts too–she’s even managed to piss off the far left of the party, as well as the moderates and conservatives.

Steny Hoyer may yet get that gavel.

 
 
 

Comment by Sal | 2008-08-18 10:28:52

As a GOPer from NYC who’s had firsthand experience of how hard Hillary works for her constituents, I must echo SusanUnPC’s thoughts on the live birth issue. I believe that even the majority of pro-Choice folks would be turned off by Obama’s vote on the issue of abortion survivors.

His vote will be used to stir up the base. His evangelical outreach is dead in the water as far as I’m concerned.

The “above my pay grade” comment in response to abortion will only add to his elitist caricature.

Hillary, I could have lived with, afterall she’s been my Senator for 8 years (hell I even voted for her in 2006), and the fight she put up in the primaries against overwhelming odds made me feel real confident of how she’d perform on the world stage.

Barry…not so much.

Comment by navyvet48 | 2008-08-18 11:50:11

Susan….the words are hard to come by….as a mother I am appalled that Obama helped kill the bill…it hurts my heart. And the tears keep welling up…what an a$$wipe….does he really care so little for a baby’s life! I guess the answer is yet. I can recall that callous comment about unwanted babies in the primary! And this is what the DNC gives! Can I throw up now?

Sal I got to hear about Hillary’s work in New York State at an Undecided Party in Indiana. I listened to Lee Beaulac talk about the work she did for family farmers, for the wine industry still a budding industry….the oldes winery being just 20 yrs old….and the craft people…I was stunned. I let my wander for a bit….I thought if she could do this for New York State I became aware of the fact she could do so much for all of us! I will trade one of my senator’s for Hillary anyday. You are so very fortunate to have Hillary as your Senator. Kudos to you for being brace and voting for her!

Comment by Sal | 2008-08-18 13:44:14

nods, she really has worked very hard, and I had serious doubts about the base being revved up to face her because she had earned a lot of kudos from the GOP Senators she worked with.

heh, it wasn’t that brave to vote for her…she got 70%, and I’m positive that she got massive crossover votes from other GOPers like myself who would rather have a Dem fighting for us in the Senate than some lightweight, inexperienced candidate (even though he was a Republican) who made sexist remarks during the election. Wow, I guess history does repeat itself.

 
 

Comment by FembotsForObama | 2008-08-18 14:57:20

I just *love* how Barry S threw Planned Parenthood under the bus to justify his lies…

We should all demand that PP issue a statement about this. As a PP supporter for over 20 years, this really tees me off.

Way to go Barky!

 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-08-18 10:30:07

Obama scares the hell out of me sometimes. America cannot be teetering on the brink of disaster like this.

Being a life long democrat I’ve tried to like Obama. I’ve tried to screen the fact from fiction about him. But the fact remains, the DNC didn’t vet this man. They have given us a communist at worst and a ill-prepared nobody at best. I cannot and will not in good conscience fall in line and vote for this disaster of a candidate.

God, what kind of a bubble to the Super Ds live in?

Comment by Sal | 2008-08-18 10:33:21

You have my sympathies. I went through the same issues in 2004 with Bush v. Kerry.

 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-08-18 10:45:54

I still don’t know what I will do when I receive my absentee ballot in October.

It will be a terrible decision to have to make.

The DNC could come to its senses, in the nick of time. But, frankly, I think that — like most hesitant brides and grooms — they will chicken out and walk down the aisle.

Then they will, far too soon, rue what they’ve just done. (Actually, I’m pretty sure they are already regretting the hole they’ve dug for themselves but they are afraid to do anything about it.)

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-18 11:42:26

what do you mean you don’t know what you’ll do when you get your absentee ballot-what’s to know?

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-08-18 13:45:19

It is to our advantage not to state — at this time — what we intend to do.

As my mother used to advise me about my boyfriends, “Keep them guessing.”

My mother was correct. And — I’m laughing as I recall this — she practiced her advice as well! (She had so many suitors when she became single again, at the time that I was a young adult. She was beautiful. She was smart. She was charming and gregarious. When I visited her, she often had me take her calls, which was all part of her modus operandi to “keep them guessing.”

She refused to be “easy” to get.

We should be similarly difficult. By playing our cards too quickly we LOSE all of our leverage with the Democratic party.

And I fully intend to keep my intentions secret until I cast my ballot in late October.

I may not even share my vote with the readers here.

“Keep them guessing.”

That is OUR leverage — our sole leverage — at this time.

Exploit it.

Do not declare that you are stubbornly committed to McCain. Besides, you honestly do not know that you won’t feel differently by November.

Much depends on what transpires in the intervening time.

Much depends on which running mate that BOTH candidates choose.

The VP choice is especially important given Sen. McCain’s age. We cannot commit without knowing who he selects and then conducting our own “due diligence” of the V.P. choice.

We have time.

It’s the DNC that is running out of time.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 15:53:21

I agree with you, Susan.

After all, the choice isn’t just between Obama and McCain.

There’s Cynthia McKinney, as well!
The “What–ME Racist?” candidate! She’s black and so are her parents.

Then there’s that WRITE IN option.

And a host of other Naderesque characters.

No sense in letting ANYONE count on our votes. They belong to US, after all.

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 15:56:21

I agree with you, Susan.

After all, the choice isn’t just between Obama and McCain.

There’s Cynthia McKinney, as well!
The “What–ME Racist?” candidate! She’s black and so are her parents.

Then there’s that WRITE IN option.

And a host of other Naderesque characters.

No sense in letting ANYONE count on our votes. They belong to US, after all.

:p

 
 
 

Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-18 12:14:11

I empathize Susan! I will be voting BIG MAC if Hill is not on that ballot..

thank you for all the work you did on this issue, I am going back to read the previous piece now..

Comment by etc. | 2008-08-18 12:19:24

I will definitely be voting McCain if Hillary is not on the ballot.

I, for one, will not be an accomplice to the DNC’s destruction of the party, and our country.

Four years of McCain doesn’t scare me as much as eight years of Obama.

Hillary first
McCain if I must

 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-18 18:11:05

The “white-haired dude” is growing on me :)

 
 
 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-08-18 10:32:03

Susan — Great Article. Obama is one scary dude. He seems to have no feelings about anyone but himself–where would that leave the rest of us living Americans? Dem Governors and State Party Chairs in swing states are beginning to grumble. They can see what lies ahead but being Democrats would they rather die then not be Politically Correct?

 

Comment by Mandelay | 2008-08-18 10:32:07

Obama has no heart; just a cardio-vascular system.

Comment by Nellie | 2008-08-18 11:22:30

Well, Dick Cheney is his relative. Family DNA perhaps?

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-18 12:03:53

Off topic but where is Cheney? Haven’t heard anything about his stinky ass in ages?

 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-08-18 12:09:43

You guessed the surprise ending to all this.

The crowd will go wild when Dick Cheney appears in Denver and wheezes “Barry, I am your father.”

The light saber duel will be great.

Comment by fif | 2008-08-18 12:24:46

LOL! Thanks for that one Arabella!

 
 
 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-18 10:32:19

The ease with which he calls into the question the credibility of others when called out on his own duplicity is breathtaking.

I am stunned at how easy it is for him to lie and damn others.

Comment by Hope | 2008-08-18 12:05:43

..and damn others by pretending they’ve done what he actually did.

 
 

Comment by Ellen D | 2008-08-18 10:35:52

Brilliant, Susan! How many people have the guts to stand up and say “This is a mistake and I will not be part of it?”

I understand there are discussions underway to keep everyone’s vote secret. Ordinarily secret ballots are good but when you represent other people and make decisions that affect them you should stand up and be counted - you owe it to them.

Comment by Annie | 2008-08-18 11:21:48

Comment by Ellen D | 2008-08-18 10:35:52

I understand there are discussions underway to keep everyone’s vote secret. Ordinarily secret ballots are good but when you represent other people and make decisions that affect them you should stand up and be counted - you owe it to them.
============================
I thought a ’secret ballot’ was always done previously during the first roll call???) Anyway, considering the vicious attacks made on those who are speaking out against Barry Obama(Soetoro) perhaps those delegates who are afraid to stand up and be counted but don’t want to vote for him would be happy with a ’secret ballot’…. You think?

Especially as he has invited many East Africans to the convention (Kenya and probably the Odinga mob). Scary stuff.

Comment by OBSP | 2008-08-18 11:45:09

Also, the Illinois Mob Degration has a special place. They can’t get along enough in the state to pass a budget, yet they will crowning their king in Denver.
Put the FBI on alert, they can swoop in and get them all at one time. What a sting operation that will be.

 
 
 

Comment by DoroB. | 2008-08-18 10:38:38

Who would let those infants die on the table?? This is heartbreaking. If Obama becomes the nominee, I really hope the GOP attacks him on this issue, and I will cheer them on for the first time in my life.

Comment by HARP | 2008-08-18 10:41:21

Guaranteed they will.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-18 11:45:37

believe me, THEY WILL…the clueless bots are in for a very rude awakening. I am pro choice but live birth abortion is absolutely disgusting. Republicans are going to take Obama apart piece by piece and I am going to be watching closely while his charming facade melts away and everyone can see what a fake, phony and liar he is.

 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-18 18:22:01

The whole abortion issue just breaks my heart. It’s the 21st century. Do people realize how much science and medicine has advanced since the birth control pill was invented in the 60’s and Roe v. Wade in the 70’s??????? There is no justifiable reason why abortion is not a very rare occurence and why children are not brought into this country planned and very much wanted. Just think of all the money! and energy wasted on fighting over the issue. Now imagine that money and energy directed towards education and effective, easy, and readily obtainable contraception. Shameful. Women and babies have become a political football- used by all sides!

 
 

Comment by gerard nedich | 2008-08-18 10:41:18

Obama and the netroots: looking a tad desperate these days

18 Aug 2008 10:38 am

Megan’s Fourth Law of Politics: The party that starts looking for implausible and unprovable conspiracy theories about the opposition candidate is in trouble.

This spring, it was bizarre accusations against Barack Obama: he’s a closet muslim, his wife is a black nationalist, etc. Now, suddenly, the Democrats are the one frantically hunting for buried treasure.

First, the solemn questions about a trivial anecdote from John McCain’s time as a prisoner of war:

McCain’s been getting a lot of mileage out of his “Christianity-in-captivity” story. It’s been in ads, and speeches, and his talks from the pulpit. And for good reason: It’s extraordinarily affecting. In it, McCain is spending another Christmas Day locked in a Vietnamese prison. A guard walks up to him and, with his foot, etches a cross in the dirt. McCain and his captor stare at the symbol for a moment, before the guard scratches it away and leaves McCain to his thoughts. “To me, that was faith,” says McCain. “A faith that unites and never divides, a faith that bridges unbridgeable gaps in humanity.”

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/obama_and_the_netroots_looking.php

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

 

Comment by jeanniejo | 2008-08-18 10:42:13

Brilliant post, the mainstream media has let us down again. Media needs to ask real questions and stop giving Barack Obama a pass.

http://larrysinclairbarackobama.com/

 

Comment by BJ | 2008-08-18 10:43:05

I just read an article saying both McCain and Obambi received the questions beforehand that Rick Warner and his mega zombie church were going to use at the Q&A-

how many ppl know that obambi had the opportunity to prepare ahead of time to answer those questions?

i doubt very many

Comment by BJ | 2008-08-18 11:11:01

I must reply to my own post- I just went to one of the ridiculous liberal websites where their ignorance allows them to drool over Obama endlessly, and look at the idiocy on their first page at MyDD , very first paragraph.

they BITCH about McCain getting a heads up on the questions BUT they don’t mention that Obambi also got a heads up on the questions..

this is typical of an imbecile who supports the unqualified super dangerous obambi campaign.

false information, lies, manipulations of the truth…

these people must really hate this country and spit on the american flag daily to live these lies in order to get this clown into the white house.. they truly don’t give a shit about what’s right and wrong and legal and what’s best for this country.

I feel a civil war a’brewin and I’m ready for it. McCain and his republican views are wrong for this country and Obambi is just outright dangerous to our constitution.

Obama must be stopped, at all costs, he must be stopped.

If that means a McCain donation and vote, then that’s what it will be- but people need to stop Obama. period.

Comment by athy | 2008-08-18 11:20:03

BJ-
I heard about the Obama camp uproar about the Saddlebrook interviews during C Span Washington Journal program this morning.

My take on situation? Sen Obama did so poorly on that interview so what MAY be happening here is that The Obama camp is falling back to their cry of
“The best defense is a good offense”

Detract/divert attention from Sen Obama’s poor performance at Saddlebrook by MANUFACTURING a controversy surrounding the event.

In that way, Sen Obama never has to answer for anything but his opponent or someone else-doesnt matter who- is diverting public attention by fighting a ‘false’ attack made by the Obama camp.

Comment by navyvet48 | 2008-08-18 11:54:40

See this picture to the right of the story! This was before the forum. They met on stage first shook hands and McCain went to the “green” room.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/17/AR2008081700471.html

Comment by navyvet48 | 2008-08-18 11:55:51

Here is a quote from the WAPO article:

Appearing on the same stage for the first time in months, although they overlapped only briefly, the two men shared their views on a range of moral, foreign and domestic issues as they near their respective nominating conventions.

Comment by Hope | 2008-08-18 12:03:43

Here’s another:

The two candidates briefly shook hands and hugged each other during the switch. McCain said he did not see or hear Obama’s session, which would have given him an advantage.

Besides,McCain was the exact opposite of Obama, are his supporters claiming McCain copied him?..Ridiculous.

 
 

Comment by agent77 | 2008-08-18 12:34:56

troll—we know the truth here. go spin your eObot lies to the young and dumb.

 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-18 12:28:23

They did the EXACT SAME THING when ABC challenged Obama in the last primary debate. It became all about how awful ABC was, instead of what a dreadful performance BO gave.

 
 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-18 11:31:09

I saw Rick warren on TV, he said he only gave the first question to both of them in advance. All the BOTS at Huff are all saying McCain had the questions in advance, that he wasn’t in the “Cone of silence” etc. McCain does these question and answer deals at least twice a week, he is very comforable answering questions. Obama is only good reading the teleprompter, he’s terrible the rest of the time. I can’t understand why the BOTS haven’t noticed this before, guess they were too high on the Kool-Aid.

Comment by 935 Lies | 2008-08-18 18:05:49

As if ANY of those questions weren’t or haven’t been after-dinner topics in any gathering of bipeds of reasonable intelligence for the last 25 years or so…or, at our house before the Offspring went off to Kollege.

 
 
 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-08-18 10:44:04

This from MYDD:

If true, that’s terrible news for us, because it suggests that even if we can massively outspend McCain, we’re still falling behind.

For all the money spent in July, there is no evidence that it had much benefit for Obama.

There’s not much reason to suppose that Obama will end up with a gigantic $$ advantage - maybe 10 or 20 million, give or take a few million.

So, if the extra millions aren’t keeping Obama in the lead, I wonder how the hell are we going to rebuild the lead?

I want some good news. Can anybody cheer me up?

What the heck is going to turn the situation around?

The DNC Convention? Ohmygosh - it looks like an exercise in futility, with all kinds of mind games being played by the PUMAs.

I don’t see the convention helping us much at all.

The VP? Who the heck is going to give Obama a boost? To me, it looks like Hillary is the only one who can get him out of the jam that she created, but he ain’t gonna pick Hillary, so the PUMAs are going to wreak their revenge.

This is not looking good. The way things are going, I would not be surprised to see McCain win the election by an electoral landslide.

I’m sure Obama and his family needed a vacation, but it was during his vacation that the poll numbers really started to tank.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/8/18/21729/3376

Comment by DoroB. | 2008-08-18 10:54:33

I love it when Obamabots have panic attacks. That’s right, they should be very afraid.
It’s amusing to see that they are still blaming Hillary though. When will those kids ever grow up and stop blaming other people?

 

Comment by bmc | 2008-08-18 11:02:00

oh, ferchrisesakes, mydd poster. We TRIED TO WARN YOU PEOPLE for a full, solid year. We tried to tell you the truth, present you with facts, offer you the opportunity to avail yourself of some REALITY-BASED critical thinking.

You were having NONE OF IT.

So, hearing your whining now is vindication for us, but it’s a bitter vindication, since we are STILL trying to reason with you, despite the fact that you have BANNED us from commenting on your sites.

My God. These people make my head explode.

I will feel no joy in November, no matter who wins, because the campaign will be between Obama and McCain. The best candidate for the job was, is, and will be Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. If McCain wins, I’ll be glad that the DNC and the Elitist Plutocracy that are ruining this party with Barack Obama, will be TOAST.

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-08-18 16:23:15

Tell the truth!

Unless Hillary is the nominee in about a week, we have already lost for the next four years.

McCain will be a consolation prize.

Comment by 935 Lies | 2008-08-18 18:08:27

I’ll take it. Mac gets the Ding Dong’s every now and then, and his lack of executive experience in the private sector is of some convern to me.

But, he is what he is.

And I’m pretty comfortable with what he is.

 
 
 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-18 11:40:03

So the BOTS are starting to blame Hillary for Obama being himself already. This is just so funny, it’s HILLARY’s FAULT that Obama went to Wright’s Church for 20 years and told him to vote for leaving live aborted babies in the closet to die. This one vote that Obama actually made, as opposed to all the votes he skipped or voted “Present” on, will be his doom. Donna Brazile thought he would be getting the Church votes? She must be on Crack. No, this loss for the DEMS is on the back of Coward Dean, Donna Brazile and Nancy Pelosi, they picked Obama, well George Soros too.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 16:05:10

“She MADE me do it!!! WAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHH! It’s…it’s…all HER fault!! WAAAAAAAAAGHHHH!”Now, that’s LEADERSHIP!!

:lol:

Bwahahahahahaha!

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-18 11:52:52

money can buy many things and many people but right and wrong is not one of them.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-18 12:30:14

it looks like an exercise in futility, with all kinds of mind games being played by the PUMAs.

OMG–I love that! Watch them squirm. GO PUMAS!

Comment by Dee | 2008-08-18 19:26:55

I thought that group believed that there are only 4 or 5 PUMAs and they are all Republicans. What’s changed?

 
 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-08-18 10:44:46

I read that Obama had a hissy-fit when someone brought this subject up following one of his stump speech performances. No wonder. This is really damning material from the man who said he would never be swayed or bought by lobbyists. And this vote is truly disgusting.

What a sad joke!

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-08-18 11:44:08

Yep, this was on Saturday, I think after McCain ate his lunch at Saddleback:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfq2uBN6wj4

Obama flat-out lied, and got pissy about it, too!

Comment by rainbow | 2008-08-18 12:40:33

Instead of the saddleback forum, it should have been called the brokeback forum because obama got “buggered” ! What a bumbling idiot. ” its above my pay scale ” barack obama…… Every question is above his pay scale… vote McCain, hero, vote obama,zero….i hate him.

 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-18 16:12:23

Speaking of jokes, check out how much money he has gotten from General Dynamics and the Crown Family of Chicago, who own that warmongering, weapons-making franchise, over the years…and then, take note of his multi-million dollar earmark request to benefit…wow, what a shock…General Dynamics!

This guy doesn’t lie down with LOBBYISTS…

Oh, no, no, no, no, NO!!!! :nono:

He cuts out the middleman, and goes RIGHT to the source of the cash! Can you say Quid Pro Quo, Children?

Ka-CHING!!