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Tension At The Convention

As one might expect, things are not all sweetness and light at the Convention (and I will freely admit, up front, that I plan to watch very little of it. No way in HELL do I want to watch Michelle Obama speak, or even Barack, for that matter. I don’t need to hear Michelle’s arrogant patronizing speech or Obama’s patronizing arrogant speech. No thanks. There are really only two people I do want to hear speak: Bill and Hillary Clinton.

It seems, though, according to John Harris and Mike Allen of Politico.com that there are some major tensions between the Obama and Clinton camps. Now, really, did any of us HONESTLY think it would be any different? Obama treated both Clintons like pure crap, and denigrated one of the best presidents we have had in 40 years, so, uh, YEAH, they might still be a little peeved. Especially Bill:

One flashpoint is the assigned speech topic for former president Bill Clinton, who is scheduled to speak Wednesday night, when the convention theme is “Securing America’s Future.” The night’s speakers will argue that Obama would be a more effective commander in chief than his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).

The former president is disappointed, associates said, because he is eager to speak about the economy and more broadly about Democratic ideas — emphasizing the contrast between the Bush years and his own record in the 1990s.

This is an especially sore point for Bill Clinton, people close to him say, because among many grievances he has about the campaign Obama waged against his wife is a belief that the candidate poor-mouthed the political and policy successes of his two terms.

Well, he DID poor-mouth them - every chance he got! Obama praised REAGAN and BUSH I, but made every effort to NOT praise Bill CLinton. The lengths to which he went sometimes to avoid that woud make a Cirque Du Soleil performer envious!

And what, you might ask, was the Obama camp’s response to all of this? Get ready - I think you might get a good chuckle out of this one:

Some senior Democrats close to Obama, meanwhile, made clear in not-for-attribution comments that they were equally irked at the Clinton operation. Nearly three months after Hillary Clinton conceded defeat in the nomination contest, these Obama partisans complained, her team continues to act like she and Bill Clinton hold leverage.

Hahahaha!! Isn’t that hilarious? A former TWO TERM President and a two term senator, who, by the way, received the largest number of votes of any presidential candidate EVER, think they have any leverage??? And people wonder why there are “tensions.” Well, SOME people do, I don’t. I am pretty clear on why there are. Oh, you know they didn’t stop there. Here’s more:

Some senior Obama supporters are irritated at how they perceive the Clintons fanned — or at a minimum failed to douse — stories that she was not even vetted as a possible vice presidential nominee. This is because she told Obama she preferred not to go through the rigorous process of document production unless she was really a serious contender, an Obama associate noted.

One senior Obama supporter said the Clinton associates negotiating on her behalf act like “Japanese soldiers in the South Pacific still fighting after the war is over.”

Well, golly gee - imagine that. Some of us actually do still care about not engaging in vote theft, fraud, and disenfranchisement! Some of us actually do still care about not co-opting caucuses in ways that border on, if they are not, illegal. Some of us actually care about the POPULAR VOTE WINNER. And some of us still give a damn about the democratic process, something of which we have seen blessed little this election season.

And really, witht this kind of attitude, is there any wonder why so many of us just plain do not LIKE Obama?

A prominent Obama backer said some of Clinton’s lieutentants (sic) negotiating with the Obama team are “bitter enders” who presume that, rather than the Clintons reconciling themselves to Obama’s victory, it is up to Obama to accommodate them.

Holy crap. Did you notice the part about Clinton and the vice presidency? She said if she was not a SERIOUS contender, she did not want to go through the vetting process. Evidently, then, she was never seriously considered, thus proving the point of so many who felt she was being dissed. She WAS (not that I ever, for one skinny second WANTED her to be the VP choice. That, to me, would have been far worse - her having to prop up Obama from a subservient position would have been too much to take. So, I’m with some of the “senior veterans” of the Clinton campaign:

In fact, some senior veterans of Clinton’s presidential campaign do believe this.

“He has not fully reconciled,” said one political operative close to the Clintons, “and he has not demonstrated that he accepts the Clintons and the Clinton wing of the party.”

I think most of us can concur that is indeed a problem for Obama. He, and the other DNC leaders, seem hellbent on eradicating the Clinton wing (”dang Washington outsider interlopers!”). But there is more on President Clinton:

While Bill Clinton remains angry about how he and his wife were treated by both Obama backers and the news media — and he is particularly resentful at what he sees as unfair allegations that he tried to exploit racial divisions for political advantage — he has made the decision that he will put forward a positive face for Obama’s benefit at Denver.

It is harder to do that when the topic is foreign policy and national security, which lends itself to restrained, rather than boisterous, partisan rhetoric.

“That puts him in a terrible bind, because you can’t give a ringing endorsement when you’re talking about foreign policy,” a longtime Clinton adviser said. “Obviously, the hard thing to talk about with Obama is commander in chief, of all his many talents.

“You don’t rah-rah about commander in chief. You rah-rah about hope and change and a new party and all that. So no matter what he does, somebody will find fault with it.”

I sure cannot blame President Clinton for being angry that he was portrayed as a racist by the Obama camp, AND the media. For someone who has worked so hard on behalf of the African American community, it wasn’t just a slap int he face. It was a slap in the face AND a knife in the back. Repeatedly. Rep. Jim Clyburn twisted that knife on more than one occasion (and thus leads to my problem of voting downticket, because I am not voting for Obama/Biden, or Clyburn. I don’t like any ONE of them, and feel Obama has done tremendous damage to the DNC. I know - you would never have known that about me before this, right??).

Apparently, the good senator is looking at the convention with a more positive eye:

Hillary Clinton, who associates said seems more at peace with the results of the nomination battle than her husband, is treating her speech preparation as an all-hands-on-deck exercise, bringing back longtime aides who worked with her during the White House years and in her Senate office.

Jim Kennedy, a veteran Clinton press hand and now an executive at Sony studios, was recalled to work on a speech draft, as was former White House speechwriter Lissa Muscatine, according to Clinton associates.

Many of Hillary Clinton’s negotiations with the Obama team, aides said, have been led by former White House lawyer Cheryl Mills — a fiercely loyal associate of the Clintons who is known for her relentless and sometimes combative advocacy on their behalf.

Another longtime associate, former White House chief of staff John Podesta, said he has little doubt that Hillary Clinton will easily meet her political challenge in Denver. He predicted that her supporters will “blow the roof” off the convention center with cheers for her, and that she will in turn make a rousing appeal for Obama.

See, another reason why I love Senator Clinton. She is, without a doubt, a class act. She is a Democrat through and through, even to her own detriment. I admire her for that (though I no longer call myself a Democrat - I do not recognize this current party. To me, it looks more like the RNC than the DNC to which I have always belonged.). I hate what the DNC leadership have done to both her and President Clinton. I cannot stand that this unqualified man, with exceedingly POOR judgment rather than the “good” judgment he claims to have, with the numerous questionable associates, who engaged in documented intimidation, fraud, and corruption of the caucus system, and whose secrecy makes George Bush look like an open book, is the one the DNC is pushing. Wow.

So, enjoy the convention, those of you who will actually be watching it. I am going to let my DVR do the work for me so I can just fast forward through until I reach the Clintons. And you can BET it will not be set to record Obama’s “victory” speech.

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Comment by Hope | 2008-08-25 13:18:32

Debra Batoshevich to appear on Fox in 1 hour.

Comment by YRM | 2008-08-25 14:40:26

Really, the only way to straighten out any of this is for Pres. and Sen. Clinton to quit lying on behalf of Obama and the DNC. They’re the ones who give this entire proceeding legitimacy. Their supporters should be demanding more from him than wishy-washy passive-agressiveness, and a lot more from her than this Stepford Wife routine. After all, their friend in Arkansas is dead, eliminated from politics just like Gov. Siegelman was when Rove framed him for bribery two years ago. A Clinton-Siegelman ticket would have been something, but now we’ll never know.

It’s puzzling. Why do the Clintons continue to collaborate in this Rove-inspired drama? Is it about more book deals and lecture tours, or a plum assignment in the senate? They said this election would have lasting consequences and they’re right. There may not be any more elections once the federal gov. goes bankrupt. In the face of so much fraud, underhandedness, hostility directed at traditional democrats by Obama surrogates, lies and deceit, and now even an assassination, they say “Go Obama!” This is an incredible disappointment for those of us who worked so hard to get them this far. Here’s more about the murder:

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BillGwatney.html

Comment by C.S. | 2008-08-25 15:06:17

Exactly my points. Neither political party is endorsed by the Constitution which makes them not a part of the Constitution; threfore, both Bill and Hillary Clinton owe allegiance to the Constitution, not Team Obama. Not just as a former President and a current Senator but because they took and oath to protect and defend our Constitution which has been trampled on by the stolen caucus votes of Obama disciples and the stolen “gift” of other candidates votes made to candidate Obama by the Democratic party.

And Barry Soertoro, alias Barack Obama broke his oath of office, too.

And We the People witnessed it.

Comment by Patrick Henry | 2008-08-25 16:01:46

No Rallys for BOBOBAMA on Wall Street today..Have not the Money traders seen the Glory of the coming of the “Messiah”..?

Where are the Signs of the new Millenium..The New “We Are One”..Signs of the Times…The New Angelic songs…like “This is the Dawn of the Age of OBEERYIASS..”The One People..One Folk..Rallys…The banners in the Sun..?

Oh..I forgot..I need to be patient..Its been a long hard Red Brick Road planning the Arrival of the SUPREME Peoples Hero..I must Trust in Axelrod to stage this Coup Perfectly..

It will all be Done in the ..(Drums and Trumpets) The ARENA.( .The Appropiate STAGE..
For the new EMPEROR…The Long rows of The Faithful..lined up with military precision in the Denver Stadium..(Obamas Arena).

The Arena..and all an Arena Represents..When you have an IMPERIALISTIC EGO..

I have Flash backs..

ONE NATION…ONE FOLK…ONE WORLD..

And when the World is Crying..”Peace at Last..Peace at last..”

Sudden destruction will Come..

This is the Age of DECEPTION..

 
 

Comment by Ex Puma | 2008-08-25 15:38:39

YRM - you are disgusting.

Gwatney was killed in the Arkansas for Obama office. He was a proud and loyal Democrat, killed by a lunatic who lost his job.

Show some respect.

This is what the Clintons said.

“We are deeply saddened by the news that Bill Gwatney has passed away. His leadership and commitment to Arkansas and this country have always inspired us and those who had the opportunity to know him. Our prayers are with his family during this time.”

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-08-25 15:57:35

thats not true

you are lying about where he was killed

he was a CLINTON delegate

why the hell would he be in OBAMA’s office?

callin yourself an EX PUMA doesn’t mean you were EVER a PUMA so why don’t YOU STFU!

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 16:19:24

Gwatney was in his own office. He was also a used car dealer and the third to be shot that year. For all we know, someone paid $1245 for a $300 brake change.

Comment by Ex Puma | 2008-08-25 16:55:20

He was in the Party Offices - set up as Arkansas for Obama. He was a great Democrat.

YRMs comment was disgraceful, but then so are most of the PUMA types. Bigots like “Johnny at Work” (as what?), liars like Bowers, McCain supporters like Darragh Murphy.

PUMA was supposed to be about seating Florida and Michigan. It was supposed to be about support for Clinton. It was none of that and all they have done is associate Hillary with bigots, whilst fully undermining her campaign to clear her debts. Way to go PUMA.

Comment by Ex Puma | 2008-08-25 17:00:11

I donated to Hillary. Larry Johnson even donated to Hillary. The FEC lists nothing for PUMA PAC founder Murphy except a McMansion donation.

I hate to even think I once thought they were anything but a Republican trick.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-08-25 17:52:14

you are so full of shit I don’t know where to begin

go to bambi’s side dreaming that Hillary wants unity with his old sorry ass

stay away from the THINKING people

what ever you suffer MAY BE CONTAGIOUS

Comment by Ex Puma | 2008-08-25 18:15:11

She sent this to her supporters. I guess most of the PUMA movement (all 20 of them) did not get it.

I want to congratulate Joe Biden on becoming the vice presidential running nominee. Joe is a friend and colleague, a strong experienced leader and a devoted public servant. I look forward to not only seeing him in Denver next week but on the trail as I work to help Barack Obama and Joe Biden along with many other Democratic candidates campaign this fall.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 20:19:39

Obama bin Biden 08 EPIC FAIL

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 

Comment by KarenG | 2008-08-25 22:33:23

I have seen a record of the money given to Hillary by Darleigh it was $700 on the Huffington Fundraise site.

 
 

Comment by Holden Caulfield | 2008-08-25 21:06:40

Obama IS a Bigot! What - you never heard or read what Jerimiah Wright was preaching? Go away faker - NO ONE here is dumb enough to believe that you EVER were a Hillary supporter. Its pretty dumb to even think that any one could/would ever believe you. Ass…

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-26 04:01:38

Why are you here??

If everyone here is so bigoted? Why would a normal person “torture” themself?

Troll, paid or ‘fraid?

Respond.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-25 17:24:08

The average democratic party voter does not have all of the information that the people who come to this blog have. You can appreciate how long it took to reach some of the conclusions we have reached at this site - it has been a long vigilent process starting in January.

There is not enough time to lay out this multi-faceted stolen nomination we have helplessly witnessed. The Clintons have no choice but to go along with the sham at this point. If they started to go through all the well-documented grievances there are, they would quickly lose favor among some of their own unsuspecting supporters not to mention the volatile other side who are less informed. It would be seen as sour grapes, poor losers - all the things the rest of us have been called.

 
 

Comment by Taj | 2008-08-25 14:46:05

She was just in a McCain television ad, too!

That HRC speechwriter they mentioned in the article, Lissa Muscatine, is such an amazing person! I met her the day before the PA primary at a private Hillary event, and she was telling me about how she helped Hillary write that phenomenal China speech during the 1990s.

I don’t think Lissa likes Obama very much, but I think she’s doing this out of her deep loyalty to Hillary.

Comment by Kay-O | 2008-08-25 14:51:14

This is because she told Obama she preferred not to go through the rigorous process of document production unless she was really a serious contender, an Obama associate noted.

Any teenager can read through this comment that Hillary was dissed.

Trust me, the media will handle this comment as if it verifies Hillary supporters’ obstinancy, rather than it shows Obama never considered her for VP for a moment.

 
 

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-08-25 18:40:13

I watched earlier but is she the Hillary delegate who will vote for McCain?
My vote goes to Senator John McCain, the proven patriot and hero. I only wish, he’ll ok & let the RNC attack machine work so people will know the truth about the Obamas.
Currently,I get more coverage at FOX. I used to watch CNN, MSNBC but it seems the pundits are in love with Obama. Sickening!
Vote for McCain!

 
 

Comment by May | 2008-08-25 13:19:24

Will Bower on Fox News right now (2:0pm eastern).

Fox News is ALL OVER the ‘angry’ Clinton supporters today BTW.

Comment by Undercover Black Man | 2008-08-25 13:26:09

^ That’s because Fox News is an arm of the Republican Party. D-UHHH!

Comment by Hope | 2008-08-25 13:30:33

FOX does not create the problems Obama has for the Dem party. They just point it out.

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-25 14:10:55

Isn’t their delusional thinking a kick? What will the meme be on 11/5? Bad weather? hahahahahahahha

 
 

Comment by alexei | 2008-08-25 13:33:10

So old and so tired an argument. So, is MSNBC and CNN arms of the Democrats?

Neither is true - they are tools for Corporate power and that is all.

Comment by Undercover Black Man | 2008-08-25 13:47:28

My friend, spend a day and count how many times Fox News broadcasts GOP attack ads during their news coverage — giving free advertising to McCain — then count how many times they broadcast Democratic campaign ads as news.

Case closed.

Comment by Hope | 2008-08-25 13:53:34

They have 24/7 streaming live broadcast of the DEMOCRATIC national convention. All free advertisement.

You can’t hold it against them that they are hoping for the convention to implode, just like the rest of America does.

We don’t want your sorry excuse for a candidate.

Oh, btw, if you disagree consider why Fox is the highest rated network.

Comment by Pink Panther | 2008-08-25 13:57:14

UBM<
Obama is the one that praised Reagan and Bush. Face it-Obama is Bush 3.

You are supporting a covert Republican and have been bamboozled!

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-25 14:12:20

why is he undercover? I am so confused?

Comment by Leisa | 2008-08-25 15:17:03

He must really be white…

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 16:20:31

Penis envy.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-25 13:53:50

I don’t care!

Whatever gets rid of Obamadone!

 

Comment by Kevin | 2008-08-25 13:57:49

good for them
counterbalance to msnbc

 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-08-25 13:58:08

go f yourself blackman… and btw…> we ain’t your friend (I seriously doubt anyine with your arrogance and stupidity has any)

Comment by Undercover Black Man | 2008-08-25 14:07:08

^ You’re mean!

Comment by Donkey Brazziere | 2008-08-25 18:12:29

Wah, ya big baby. ;)

 
 
 

Comment by catherine | 2008-08-25 14:05:09

My friend, count how many times MSNBC, CNN and other networks give Obama positive press coverage while rarely giving any to Hillary. Jack Cafferty called Hillary sexist names and this was ok. Mathewes and Keith O repeatedly mocked her and called her sexist and hateful names throughout the primaries. The only non-biased reporter in the whole CNN line up during the primaries in my opinion was Lou Dobbs. Are Hillary supporters angry about how she was treated? You are damn right we are and we will not forget. Many of us have turned off Oprah, and have rejected watching the media stations where rampant Obama positive bias has been pervasive. Fox has been the ONLY network that has provided some counter information for the public to hear. Many Democrats do not like Fox but since the other stations are so clearly in the tank for Obama, we have no choice but choose FOX as our major source of news. Corporate control of media has ruined our right as citizens to objective news reporting. Now all we get from the main stream media is a lot of spin from talking heads with agendas and trash about people’s sex lives. We are an embarrassment around the world. We are slowly having to depend on private citizens like Dr. Long and Li for real investigative information. It is a sad state of affairs in America when the media no longer serves the public interest but their own selfish corporate desires. Obama is a product of such reporting alligning himself with Madison Avenue. Although he and the media will try to portray himself as MainStreet, it will all be a complete smokescreen.

 

Comment by georgiapeach | 2008-08-25 14:17:46

The same thing applies to MSNBC and CNN.

 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-08-25 14:34:26

Comment by Undercover Black Man | 2008-08-25 16:57:18

 
 

Comment by Marie | 2008-08-25 14:41:23

I actually like GOP more than Obama and his Dems.(= That’s how much I despise Obama) So I don’t mind watching Fox at all.

 

Comment by db | 2008-08-25 14:44:51

BO is burnt toast!

 

Comment by Kay-O | 2008-08-25 14:54:04

“then count how many times they broadcast Democratic campaign ads as news.”

Obama ads are humorless, all about hope and change and tired comments how he will support “green” industries to replace the jobs he will continue to send to China.

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-08-25 15:13:20

The nitwit Obamabot is here.

Comment by Undercover Black Man | 2008-08-25 16:59:01

^ At the kind invitation of Larry Johnson!

 
 

Comment by Obama for President of Indonesia | 2008-08-25 16:26:07

Check on CNN and see how many times they have pro Obama stories.

Go back to the the pit of hell from where you came Obama!

 
 
 

Comment by bmc | 2008-08-25 13:35:18

Well, that’s a SURE way to bring voters on board the Obama Cult Express train! Duhhhh…

Insult the voters, call them racists, call Democrats a “Republican front” and jab the knife in a twist in petty vindictiveness with 3 a.m. text messages.

Keep it up! It’s working. For McCain:

In a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll taken after Obama announced his VP pick, 27 percent of Hillary supporters say they’ll vote for McCain, up from 16 percent in late June.

“The number of Clinton Democrats who say they would vote for McCain has gone up 11 points since June.”

Yet another poll, the USA Today/Gallup, puts the number of Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain, someone other than Obama, or no one at all, at 30 percent.

CNN poll: Post-Biden poll shows dead heat
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com:80/2008/08/24/cnn-poll-post-biden-poll-shows-dead-heat/

Poll: More than half of Clinton backers still not sold on Obama
http://www.usatoday.com:80/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-campaignpoll_N.htm

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 16:22:07

I heard 50% said no one at all and 30% said McCain.

 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-25 14:30:46

I guess Nancy Pelosi didn’t hear you …

Asked by reporters about female voters’ comfort level with Obama, Pelosi said women show a strong preference for Obama in public opinion polls. A “gender gap” in Obama’s favor had emerged “even before the convention, and even before the complete reconciliation that we need,” she said.

Pelosi, who is chairwoman of the convention by virtue of her post as House speaker, brushed off a question about that reconciliation effort.

“The nomination is decided, we have a vice president, we’re going to work together and go forward,” she said, adding that all 12 national conventions she has attended have been marked by contentiousness.

“But to stay wallowing in all of this is not productive,” she said. “So we can talk about this forever, or we can talk about how we’re going to take our message to the American people, to women all across America, to see the distinctions” between Obama and Republican candidate John McCain.

What matters is Americans’ unease about the economy and such issues as privacy rights, Pelosi said. She picked up the same theme later at a speech to hundreds of California delegates, saying they owned Americans “more than to get subsumed in process.”

Pelosi chastised journalists for fixating on conflicts between Obama and Clinton supporters.

“You know what? This is like a yesterday room,” she told the reporters. “We are going into the future. What did I walk into, a time capsule?”

The time capsule she’s looking for is the one where her face wasn’t held in place by BOTOX. She can go F*ck herself.

Comment by Leisa | 2008-08-25 15:22:33

Pelosi will me forward…forward to the exit door.

She is so out of touch. She is an embarrassment to women. I guess that is why her book tanked.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-26 04:09:40

HA!

She wrote a BOOK?

Who knew?

 
 
 

Comment by No Obamislamists | 2008-08-25 14:41:56

When Obama was crying and people said it was put on I really don’t believe it was put on. I really believe that he just always thought, “this is mine. I’m Michelle’s husband, I’m black and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate!”, and then out of nowhere came “Hey, we’re the PUMAS!”, and he said “Oh Damn! Where did you come from!? I’m black! I’m entitled! There’s some PUMAS stealin’ my show!-WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”

Comment by Kevin | 2008-08-25 14:45:59

BEAUTIFULLY STATED

 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-25 15:27:06

LMAO Good one

 

Comment by Karma | 2008-08-25 16:36:08

Someone should dub that text over that video.

Classic!

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-08-25 15:34:39

abm, you showed up on tl the other day and now your are just as rude now as you were there.

 

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-25 17:36:44

And MSNBC is not an arm of Move-On.Org and the far-left wing trying to compete with a more center/right FoxNews?? These days, I find FoxNews is more what they’ve always said they are - fair & balanced. They love the fact Hillary people now watch and praise them. In many ways they try to live up to what we’ve said about them. I can hardly bear to watch MSNObama since it nearly sends me into the streets screaming obscenities. CNN can get me there too sometimes. Fox is my tranquilizer.

 
 

Comment by Ex PUMA | 2008-08-25 14:49:39

Comment by May | 2008-08-25 13:19:24

Will Bower is on Fox News right now (2:0pm eastern).

Fox News is ALL OVER the ‘angry’ Clinton supporters today BTW.

No one who claims to be a Hillary supporter can support Will Bowers, who set out to undermine her fund raising by claiming on Fox all her debt was cleared by July 4.

Of course Fox is all over PUMA stories, they like the Republicans invented them to destroy her.

Comment by Kevin | 2008-08-25 14:51:57

hey,
Who’s giving the invocation tonight?
Wright, Pfleger or Jesse?

hahahahahah

Comment by Ex Puma | 2008-08-25 15:57:56

Any of those are better than Bush. How about Falwell, the 59 lobbyists employed by the McCain campaign, the boy buggering bigoted Republican Senators, or even Peter Hong?

Good moral values the lot.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 16:23:28

Ex PUMA My Ass.

 

Comment by Ferdberfle | 2008-08-25 17:39:57

It would be rather difficult for Falwell to be there. You should get out of your basement more often.

 
 
 

Comment by pacman | 2008-08-25 15:49:38

go back to orange urinal.

 
 
 

Comment by May | 2008-08-25 13:19:54

Will Bower on Fox News right now (2:20pm eastern).

Fox News is ALL OVER the ‘angry’ Clinton supporters today BTW.

Comment by Steve | 2008-08-25 13:37:21

Have your say!

Back Clinton in Denver, whether you can make it into town or not.

http://tinyurl.com/back-clinton-in-denver

 
 

Comment by Ivory Bill Woodpecker | 2008-08-25 13:22:44

I’m lucky this year. My Democratic Senator and Congressman do not have Elephascist opponents this year, but they do have Green opponents–so this November I will be voting Green for the top 3 spots on my ballot. :)

Comment by harvey | 2008-08-25 13:43:56

Good for you. Seems the odds of finding an ivory bill Woodpecker are better than finding a true democratic politician these days. Throw the bums out!!!

 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-25 14:01:56

Don’t waste your vote for President, vote for Mccain, this is a 2 person race you know.

Comment by Disguested with Obama | 2008-08-25 14:26:20

It was not even and two person primary!!! Hey, are we still living in America???? Feels like a really bad Nightmare.

 

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-25 17:56:23

You are right! The ONLY way to vote against BO is to vote for McCain. The write-in for Hillary, voting for any of the fringe candidates or staying home will in effect all be a vote for Obama.

 
 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-25 13:24:26

Hillary is “at peace” because she knows what I know–that revenge is a dish best served COLD.

All she’s got to do is bide her time–Obama will implode, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth…and then the little punks will wander off, find some pot, order some pizza and be on to the Next Big Thing. The adults who supported Obama will shake off that foggy stupor and ask themselves, “What WAS I thinking???”

We’ll endure four years of McCain, a Democratic Congress will be FORCED to work, and in 2012, Clinton will come forth, tanned, rested and ready–but Obama will stay home. Where he belongs.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-25 13:55:35

or maybe he’ll be in jail!

 

Comment by hillarysmygirl | 2008-08-25 14:00:58

I second that. This is exactly what I think, with one addition…when Obama loses, he and the Obamanation, of course, will blame Hillary for everything that happens to him.

(Then he’ll light a cigarette and catch some more waves on Maui, bra’, wit’ his rapper friends and George Clooney!)

Comment by No Obamislamists | 2008-08-25 14:09:17

HAha, and Hussein Obama will have to serve out 3 more years in the senate. Imagine if Hillary goes for Majority Leader? If this happens it’s a sure bet you’ll never see Obama again in politics.

Comment by hillarysmygirl | 2008-08-25 14:13:37

Majority Leader Hillary Clinton has a nice ring to it. Not as nice as President Hillary Clinton, but I’ll settle for one step at a time…

 
 
 
 

Comment by OhioMary | 2008-08-25 13:25:59

The Obama camp appears to act as if he has already been a president and should therefore be entitled to the same respect that an actual President should be given.

And what is with “the war being over?” In actuality he has NOT received the vote yet. Chances are he will due to their thug tactics, but not yet.

Dear Lord I hope he loses.

Comment by No Obamislamists | 2008-08-25 13:51:49

Exactly. They’re attitude is like “it’s our party now, the Clinton’s need to sit down and shut up”.

Best case scenario: Obama loses and Dean/Pelosi/Reid will have a challenge to their leadership in 2009. The Obama/Dean DNC may be able to browbeat just enough people but the rank and file are going to be far less willing to play Dean’s game if he loses this one.

Hillary should go for the Senate Majority position and turn Reid into the back bencher that he should be.

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-25 14:15:04

Chappaquicick Teddy won’t be around much longer,
so I would not worry about he and his ilk
trying to stop Hillary from attaining that position.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-25 16:25:49

That would be poetic justice. Once again, the old boozer leaves a woman to drown; this time she is the better swimmer.

 

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-25 18:16:35

So they think Teddy can come tonight to the Hall and ‘bring us together’, huh. He is responsible for tearing the party apart in 1980 by challenging a sitting president from his own party. He did not even shake Carter’s hand once it was clear Carter would be the nominee. Carter went on to lose the election for a second term. A real peace maker, that Teddy.

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-25 18:28:52

In Teddy’s endorsement speech for BO, he said it is time to pass the torch to the next generation. Let’s see now - Teddy is 76. Obama is 44. Hillary is 60. When did we start skipping a generation? Some have suggested he was passing the Camelot torch to Obama. I REALLY don’t get that! Obama is no John Kennedy. He’s not even a Ted Kennedy. WTH?

 
 
 
 

Comment by Kelvin Hearts PUMAs | 2008-08-25 14:06:20

You have the audacity to mention “entitlement” and the name “Clinton” in the same post. You PUMAs are priceless!

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-25 14:09:15

and just how is Barry doing on the Banking Commitee today that is his commitee, or you forget he told the world that a couple of weeks ago?

and he did not say it to the ghosts he speaks to or in any of the top 57 states he visited either….lol

 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-08-25 14:39:05

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-25 17:48:51

People like the Clintons, who have worked all their lives for others, are entitled to respect, not that other people who have a gimme mentality understand that type of entitlement.

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-26 04:13:24

Troll, paid or ‘fraid.

Or all three.

 
 
 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-08-25 13:26:44

An incredibly divided Democratic Party stages a convention designed to create the illusion of unity. How could there not be tension?

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-25 13:44:12

Its just the latest American Idol drivel. Such a waste of money. That should embarrass real democrats also. Puke! Puke! Puke!

 
 

Comment by tennessee girl | 2008-08-25 13:29:07

Well said….

 

Comment by DancingOpossum | 2008-08-25 13:29:43

Which is why Fox has a vested interest in showcasing Democratic disunity–and why the Obama camp and DNC are desperate to hide it. DUUUUHHH!

Thanks for your brilliant insight.

My local Dems are good guys so I will vote for them, and my state is guaranteed to go blue so I will cast my presidential vote for the truly progressive, liberal, African-American candidate: Cynthia McKinney.

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-25 14:11:19

I live in Michiganistan and all the local DEMS that I supported in the past got together with the thugs and stole my vote. How can you get 45% of the Delegates when you REMOVED your name from the ballot??? I never heard ANY DEMS open their mouth and protest any of