The Denver Group Reception
By Bud White on August 26, 2008 at 11:20 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Democratic Party, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, The Denver Group
(Photo credit: Hillary with Heidi Li Feldman at an event in Washington, D.C.)
Tonight is Hillary’s night. So it’s fitting that The Denver Group held a reception prior to her speech to discuss the work being done to assure that Hillary’s delegates are allowed to vote. Although that is looking increasing unlikely, Heidi Li Feldman talked about the future of The Denver Group and the Democratic Party.
The event was held at a country-style French restaurant on the edge of downtown. Heidi Li Feldman, co-founder of The Denver Group, greeted guests at the door to a private room. In attendance were Hillary supporters, PUMAs of various stripes, No Quarter’s NancyA, and at least two members of the press. My wife and I spoke with Harriet Christian, heroine from the RBC fiasco. She sipped on a Coke and told us, with increasing passion, about her experience at the RBC. She described it as a sham and a fraud.
After about 45 minutes, Heidi Li climbed up on a chair and spoke to the group. We gave her a round of applause. She is just as committed, witty, warm, and intelligent as you’d imagine.
CQ Politics was there covering the event:
A prominent backer of Hillary Rodham Clinton now says delegate intimidation by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama ’s campaign means a fair nomination vote will be impossible on Wednesday night.
“I think they are hell bent on having a pretend vote,” said Heidi Li Feldman, the Georgetown University law professor whose Denver Group sponsored advertisements this summer demanding a roll call vote on the presidential nomination at this week’s convention.
Feldman says the Denver Group now plans to run more ads after the convention under the rubric of “Principle over Party.”
“All of that energy is now going to be channeled into making sure the Democratic Party does not inherit such incompetent leadership as we have had to endure this election season,” she said.
Feldman held court Tuesday before about 50 rowdy Clinton supporters at Le Central, a French restaurant in Denver’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. They greeted her pledge to demand Dean’s ouster with resounding applause.
Several attendees asked Feldman how they should vote this November. “I don’t think you should be behind the party right now,” said Feldman, who said she plans to leave her own presidential ballot blank. “Keep standing in front of the Pepsi Center and saying this is a fraud and a fake and I am not going to be party to a party that is corrupt.”
The work of The Denver Group is not finished. Please consider going over to The Denver Group and making a donation to run their ads. I believe their work, along with many others, helped raise awareness of the sham taking place in Denver.
Excellent. So glad that Heidi Li is not giving up. And glad you and your wife were there.
This very thoughtful, eloquent and passionated democratic supporter of Hillary says it all on this CNN clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XssR45W4E
I listened tonight… I’m going to do what Hillary asks. It’s time to put petty differences aside and make the country better, for us all
Well you should go brag about it elsewhere. BO for president will certainly NOT make this country better. It will endanger us. He’s a cypher, a zero, a fraud.
Does anyone really think if BO loses this election that most all of his supporters will make sure Hillary will never get nominated in 2012 or ever. Hillary will never be President, ever. It’s over. The Democratic Party is doomed if Obama loses and nobody knows it more than Bill and Hill. It will never be the same in this country. Good luck in your efforts to get McCain elected.
Thanks, I’ll start calling my family to donate to McCain to make sure he gets elected. I already got three to switch already…they are indies, so it wasn’t that hard of a sell.
I would have voted democratic if anyone but McCain (or Ron Paul) had been nominated. You lucked out this year.
I think the Democrat party as it stands today is already doomed. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid put such a deep rift in the party that I believe it will be years before it can heal.
The Democrat party is going to have to revamp itself and get back to the basics of what the party once stood for. I have never in my life as a Democrat seen such manipulation, petty jealousies, sniping and backstabbings as I did this primary season. The only person who came out on top of this battle was Hillary.
My friend and I, (both of us have children in the military,) believe that like they do with new military enlistees, the Democratic Party will need to be torn down to the bottom before it can be built back up stronger.
We can not reward bad behavior with our votes. Nancy, Howard,et al and all their enablers need to face the music when Obama loses.
And as much as I would like to vote for other democrats on the down tickets, they will have to have passed the litmus test. Whom did they endorse for president prior to June 7th? any candidate who acitvely endorsed Obama prior to June 7th has, in my mind, exhibited such a lack of good judgement that they could not possibly deserve my vote. And when the down ticket also loses, hopefully they will be so outraged at the repercussions caused by the ineptitude of Pelosi and Dean they will speak out and hold them accountable.
The DNC Got It Wrong! So McCain It Will BE!
Hillary in 2012. It all starts today.
Clinton Supporters for McCain
Country before Political Party
Clinton supporters for McCain: sour grapes before Country and common sense.
Sour grapes means you say you never wanted something. It is from Aesop’s fable “The Fox and the Grapes.” We all very much wanted Hillary to be President. The only reason many of Hillary’s supporters switched to McCain is because she is no longer in the race.
I’m not going to let the Botheads hold the 2012 threat over me another second. 2012 is 4 years away. A lot can happen.
So hear this:
I really could care less if Hillary runs in 2012.
I only care that 0bama loses in November.
Are you paying attention? Because I don’t want to hear a threat about 2012 again.
WIN WITHOUT ME!
Looking forward to McCain and a breather from the thugs and hijackers of the DNC. They need to be kicked out for good for this Obama debacle. McCain 2008.
Bill Clinton’s advice is the best route — vote for the guy who can deliver.
Trolls your messiah Obama-Soetoro will lose by a landslide in November — get used to it. Then he’ll be headed for jail.
Oh and thanks jerk idiot trolls for showing up and being your usual lying asses.
PUMA
Thanks for endangering all of us because YOU are a sheeple. Petty differences?
Thanks for being a weak link in the chain. Susan, we don’t need your kind of support.
concern troll alert.
So, we’re supposed to put fraud and manipulation “aside”? So what are you voting for then? Democratic principles are not important? Read the Constitution.
Yes, for some people party comes first, even if it means rewarding the caucus thieves.
And for others, the country comes first and the party serves as a way for like minded people to put up a candidate that best serves the concerns of those people.
Political parties rise and political parties fall, our country has stood for over 230 years and the poltical parties that were here in the beginning no longer exist, yet the country stands. The country will stand if the Democratic party as we know it today falls and a better, stronger party will take its place.
Country before party, always.
For me, the only way to vote is the way that reflects my country and my country stands for integrity, honesty, leadership, experience and moral values. McCain holds those values to a higher extent that Obama does, so I will vote for McCain even though I have been a Democrat my entire life.
I didn’t abandon my party, my party abandoned me. My values and patriotism remain the same as they always did, the Democratic party no longer has those values and has become nothing more than the Republican Party with a leftward tilt in my long held belief of the corruption that was the calling card of the Republican party.
John McCain is not a typical republican and he is not bush. Bush’s third term = Barrack Obama.
wow, that was nice. So, you can accept the fact that although I love Hillary for her conviction to the Dems, I would never bow to the fraudulent DNC?
When will you get it? If you don’t stand up for your principles, who will?
How will voting for Obama make this country better?
What have the Democratic Party leaders in congress who support Obama done to make this country better?
What has Obama done in the Senate that has made this country better?
Voting for Obama puts this country in the hands of the greedy public employee unions who will bust the budget faster than the Iraq war with their piggy demands.
Well, maybe Hillary will go tell you to take a leap off a bridge, make sure you listen and do exactly that.
Susan,
If you think our differences with Obama are petty, why the heck are you just NOW deciding to put them aside? Either you were petty all along, or you are disingenuous now - or you are an Obama plant.
Sheese! Will it never stop with you Obamalytes?
I am sorry but these differences are not “petty”. Obama is a crook and a liar and God knows what else. This is our nation we are standing up for and that is not a petty matter. You make it sound like it is nothing to trouble ourselves with. The DNC is screwing this nation royally by selecting Obama over Hillary. Do not play games with our nation by calling this matter petty.
I wouldn’t call voter fraud a petty difference, and I don’t take kindly to being called a racist, either. Obama was set up to lose by corrupt party leaders in bed with Republicans. There is no choice now between the candidates. You’re dumb or crazy, if you think the majority of Americans are going to play chicken in a voting booth on November 4. Knowing Obama as well as they undoubtedly will, odds are they are going to look at a ballot that reads Obama / Biden and see Osama bin Laden. Nice job, Dem idiots.
fake susan troll, you hide under somebody elses name but you give yourself away.
HRC supporters are not blind and don’t “do what Hillary says”.
we own our own votes
Exactly. We are not “Hillary Democrats” we are not “Hillary’s followers”, we are not under Hillary’s control. We are Democrats who support Hillary for POTUS. We don’t take every word she says as the gospel truth, we merely believe she is the better candidate. Just because she says we should do something, doesn’t mean we will do it.
The Obama followers are the left wing version of the bush followers. They do as they are told, regardless of whether it is the right thing or not. You follow obama blindly and will do what he tells you to do.
WE, on the other hand, we willing to allow Hillary to hold the highest public service office of the country, POTUS, because we believe she can do the job. We are not willing to allow obama to hold that office becuase we don’t feel he can do the job.
That is the difference in “supporters” and “followers”. We are supporters, you are followers.
That was backing up what Dr. Kate said to the other poster, not responding to Dr. Kate.
Just to prevent any confusion.
I listened too. She sounded like a hostage to me, forced give a convincing speech or her loved ones would be chopped to bits. I can tell the difference.
You do what you want. You probably would have grabbed your shovel and kept digging for a pony if she’d said he was an axe murderer. You aren’t convinced, you’re predisposed, and your statement is disingenous. Have fun being a mindless tool. Join the ranks of the obtuse if you’d like–it’s a shrinking enterprise.
How nice, though, that now I have a place to toss my political donations! I can’t even find a Downticket Dem in my home state that I feel like supporting with my cash. I’ll vote for them, unenthusiastically, but not another dime to them, the DNC or The Pretender to the Throne.
Not that I have a fortune burning a hole in my pocket, but I’m sure every bit helps.
The DENVER GROUP it is!!!
I posted this down thread, but is just as fitting here:
This is a real ethical dilemma: short term versus long term, both are equal in value, it depends how you weigh each one of them.
I trust Hillary even if I don’t know her evaluation of the situation. Many people think having a democrat in the WH is the lesser evil.
I personally value a short term “bad” (McCain WH) is not as damaging in the long run as condoning a rigged election, allowing it to become standard procedure.
Just think: this is not rigging against another party, it’s going against your own. I have no words for my emotions today. I just try to reason and thus find solace that the pedulum will, eventually, turn into the oposite direction. Thank God for people like Heidi Li, Marc, Shtuey, Patsy, Larry, Susan and all those owning their votes, all those who speak up against this corrupt handling of the Primaries by the leaders of the Democratic Party..
I meant Susan unpc, of course
McCain, if he isn’t the man I believe him to be, cannot damage the country the way bush has. For one thing, there will be a Democratic majority in both houses with enouch numbers to actually make a difference. If he tries bush tactics, they will be immediately met with opposition. The reason bush was able to destroy so much was that he has sucha long period of time with a republican run congress and then a congress that was only slightly tilted to the democratic side without enough votes to prevent him from his destruction. McCain won’t have that and will only be able to pass plans that are bi-partisan and appeals to both parites or congress will not let it pass through. McCain can not be bush’s third term because the dynamics are not right.
However, the dynamics are there for obama to easily be bush’s third term and I’m positive that’s what it’ll be. Obama is too corrupt to trust with a position holding that much power.
Having Obama thugs in the Whitehouse and everything they stand for and the jack-boot process they used to get where they are is the worst evil.
It is easy to live with McCain. Living with Obama is betrayal of every ideal I support. No ends justify his means. And I mean MEAN.
I gotta be honest here. Hillarys speech was very moving. If the nominee was anyone other than Obama, I most likely would fall in line. The thing for me is I have been hearing this crapola from Obama for many years(I live in Cook County). It has never been true in the past. He(Obama)has never made good on a single campaign promise. Why would I believe it now? Of course I believe in what Obama says. I am a Democrat after all. I just don’t believe in or frankly believe Obama.It’s like the old saying “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. I simply do not believe that Obama has the cojones to actually stand up and fight for anything. IMO an Obama presidency will at best be “ineffectual” and at worst “tragic”. The man has no spine. So still no Obama vote for me.
It sounds like you are part of the problem instead of the solution - what have YOU ever done to change anything in Cook County or anything else?
I am not a politician. So on the grand scheme of things I do not have the capability to do all that much. What I can do, I have done. I take the train to work to cut down on gas use. I pick up trash in my area. Where I live had a shelter for Katrina transplants, I donated my time and money. What have you done?
Also I have not made promises to change anything. I also do not earn my paycheck from other peoples taxes. So huge difference there jackass.
Excuse me? These are not PETTY DIFFERENCES. This is a huge dangerous mistake against democracy and anyone who votes for Obama is voting against democracy. Hillary says what she has to. She’s a professional politician who will do anything to stay in politics. She can’t go anagainst her party like we can. Just stay home. Obama is dangerous. This election was stolen form Hillary. How can you support a thug like Obama?
I make up my own mind. NO ONE tells me how I should vote or who I should vote for. This is still the United States of America and I can vote for who I want. And it is NOT Obama. Get over it!!!!
Gonna wote for McCain because the Dem’s short changing everyone who ever have had faith in that party.
I’m still not voting for the Selected One.
Senator Clinton is one of my favorite speakers, yet I can not do as she asks. There are more than petty differences being shoved in the faces of mainstream Democrats. I want the Democratic party (the one my grandparents knew) BACK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhW-zSeU
This is a link to a Hillary delegate who was interviewed on CNN. She is very passionate and seems to put into words so well the heartache of Hillary’s supporters. She says she will vote for Hillary
I saw this delegate. CNN couldn’t have picked a better person to interview live. I just loved her and felt as though she was speaking for me.
Oh yeah! I saw this live. She was fantastic! Everyone needs to see this.
send it viral everyone. She made me all teary.
I wasn’t too wild about her…mainly because she said she wouldn’t *ever* vote McCain, and even implied that her friends would eventually convince her to go out and vote for Obama.
Best case scenario, she stays home. That’s only half of what McCain needs.
She speaks for all of us Hillary supporters who know the system was gamed and the nomination was stolen from Hillary.
There is no voting…..the system is rigged and anointing someone is not Democracy.
Thank you. Please do it for us and for our country, please. It is not too late.
She spoke beautifully. I hope she doesn’t suffer any consequences from the evil dnc for speaking honestly. God, what a screwed up year. I’m so sad that we’ve lost Hillary.
socalannie …
you “hope she doesnt suffer any consequences from the evil dnc for speaking honestly” ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You act is if she spoke against BHO. She said about 20 times to vote for BHO. She kissed his black ass … As far as I am concerned she sold out America. She knows how pathetically unqualified and unfit he is to be president. BHO and his campaign staff and supporters and the media dumped all over her and her supporters all during the primaries. so what does she do when its convention time and she is armed with only about 125 less delegates than the messiah, the messiah is tanking in the polls, so she has a legitimate case to make to all the delegates, there is plenty of past people who fought at the convention (ted kennedy is one) and instead of fighting she caves to obama and tells everyone else that donated so much time and money to her, to also cave. Well too bad Hillary I OWN MY VOTE, and I am voting McCain, and will never vote for the fraud, or you if you do decide to run again, to me Hillary is almost as big of a fraud as the messiah….almost
I was referring to the delegate that was interviewed on cnn. Sorry if I didn’t make my comment clear, but it was nested underneath that topic.
What I meant was, I hope the dnc doesn’t pull her out of the convention or something. They (dnc) haven’t been particularly accomodating to Hillary supporters. By the way, I have no intention of (ever) voting for Obama.
JMO8,
Please tell me you didn’t really think Hillary was going to make a speech against Barack 0bama?
No JM08, there is not a Santa Claus.
She did not lie. She said she would support the ticket and that’s what supporting the ticket looks like. She’s doing way more than he would have done, but that’s another conversation.
Frankly, you sound like a misanthrope. I don’t think you liked Hillary any better than 0bama.
I saw this on CNN live, my God this woman was fantastic. I was moved to tears, just to think what could have been….so sad.
…hope the SD see how much better choice Hillary is. Obama needs to get more experience under his belt…he is not ready for prez.
You all, watch the end of that video. Watch real close, she says something about his resume, and that man next to her cuts off the interview saying “Let’s go.”
What was that about? Who was that, cutting off so she couldn’t finish?
It was some guy (partner?) who had his hand on her shoulder the whole time, and it looked a lot like he would have liked to have steered her away from that reporter asap.
Her name is Anne Price Mills, a delegate from Wash state, does anyone know how to get contact information for her?
It was obviously a very emotional moment for her. She had already expressed clearly that she had a lot of concerns about Obama’s readiness to lead. Her friend was just ending the interview, because she was completely breaking down. It was very moving.
Thanks so much for posting this link. I wish I could have been there also, I was crying too and thinking the same things. She was courageous to speak her mind. I give her my deep thanks and appreciation.
Who is that man at the end who cut her off and said “Let’s go.”
There’s no way in hell camp obichobi will be able to call that Hillary supporter racist.
Her name is Anne Price Mills and she is a delegate from Wash state. If anyone has managed to find her email address, please post it here — she deserves a huge thank you for having been so articulate and brave in what she said on CNN.
I found this
annepricemills@yahoo.com
Sorry Obambots but I own my vote and I’m not voting for the One. Nice of you to drop by and pretend to be a Hillary supporter prior to tonights unity speech. I don’t think you’re changing anyone’s mind and if I’m not mistaken the polls are already bearing that out.
DEMOCRACY is petty differences ?
Bingo, Harp!
MO has no personality, couldn’t even produce a fake smile for Hillary.
Actually, MO’s face was an expression of pain, and if there were smile attempts there, they were lost in the pursed and tight expressions locked onto her face.
Do you realize that neither BO nor MO actually connect when they give these big speeches?
I am going to donate to the Denver Group and my John McCain right now!
To paraphrase my favorite film, “Sometimes I miss her so much I can hardly stand it.” Madame President was awesome tonight.
I’m going to enjoy watching the republicans destroy Obama.
Grab the popcorn, and scoot over on the couch…I’m watching with you!
Washington Times, August 27
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/27/radical-tied-to-obama-compared-us-actions-to-911/
Wait for me!!
…we’re going to need a really big couch.
Can I get a seat TOO!!!!
So you will empower the corrupt Democratic Party? I will not under any circumstances. I will vote for McCain and come back with Hillary in 2012. If you put Obama in the WH, he will use the next four years to consolidate his power in the party to assure another four years and then it may too late for Hill.
Please, Susan. Think. Hillary did what she had to do and absolutely no more with passion and loyalty to the party. Bill on the other hand, spoke in code earlier today asking who you’d vote for if you had a candidate who couldn’t deliver on any of your issues vs one who agreed on only some of your issues but could close the deal? Who the hell do you think he meant…yeah, I know he said it wasn’t about right now…hahahahaha
If we do this right, we might actually have a fair election in 2012…and win.
I’m still thinking this through, but here is where my thoughts about voting for BO always stop:
If BO gets in, then the whole rotten caucus, gaming, Chicago-style, etc., system will be locked into the DNC, and who will ever challenge it in the future, or even be able to challenge it?
Also if BO gets in, then the whole US federal governance system becomes vulnerable to what happened to the DNC, and to Illinois — courts, administrative offices, …. Not to mention possible reprisals against Clinton Dems.
My biggest fear is that anyone who is willing to game everyone off the ticket, beginning with Alice Paul and ending, most recently, with Hillary Clinton, is at least as corrupt as Bush, and, I think, even worse in terms of damage to democratic processes. What strikes me is that he would have total control over the whole enforcement arm of the government, so who will be left to watch the watchers? And thinking back over what is known about his political career, has he had _any_ associations that are not deeply questionable in some way?
On the other hand, if BO loses, then there is a real chance to clean up the DNC in time for 2012, and, in the meantime, BO and his gangs will not have had the same access to the US federal system.
My bottom line: Unless someone can convince me otherwise, I would rather risk exposing the US government to McCain’s style of governance than to BO’s style of governance.
Think about it.
Those are exactly my reasons for not voting for BO, not to mention Bush greatly expanded the power of the executive branch and Pelosi led corrupt Dems who were complicit in that. A rubber stamp Congress for this group would be very dangerous.
At last, the Annenberg reports hit the fan!
Delegate on CNN doesn’t like Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGhyIgwaVXA
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That is a FANTASTIC INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw this too. Amazing. I love how precisely she speaks, even though she’s “emotional” (as the interviewer so patronisingly said afterwards). And the analogy with the CEO hire is exactly right.
To give a political party power that is abusive, fraudulent, and holds the public in contempt is only asking for more of the same which they will be glad to oblige. Until the voters make it very clear that preselecting candidates, gaming caucuses and rules committees, and colluding with the media to savage party members and candidates is unacceptable in any way. The elite of the party will continue to act in this manner as long as they are allowed to do so. They must not gain power but loose it. I am not voting for anyone who backs Obama. Ever.
Well put.
Did they say fifty people? 5-0? Never in American politics has such a deluge of protestation occurred. If even up to 75 people vote in November, PUMA will have its revenge! Huzzah!
Ah, such confidence.
So confident that you come here, and whistle past the graveyard.
Troll, paid, or ‘Fraid?
Or all three?
Stand up for your right to say NO DEAL!
I, for one, and five other members of my family will NOT be voting for Obama in November. We simply cannot be accomplices in the damaging of our wonderful, flawed, and democratic country. The DNC does not warrant getting away with fraud and complicity in the dirty corruption laden scumbag named Obama.
Hillary did her job tonight and now we will do ours.
McCain 2008
Hillary 2012
I agree. Annenberg and let’s get those two lawsuits rolling along.
“Monet” just wrote this excellent point under an earlier post.
Friday! The Dems go home and Mac may announce his Veep and steal thunder from the fraud. There will be at least one expose per day.
And so it begins…
Ayers/Obama connection discussed on Greta tonight!
I think this will backfire and just remind borderline voters what they could have with Hillary.
On the bright side….Michelle becomes the new “wicked witch”.
wonder if this one is true this could be more trouble for the one
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/08/26/another_radical_obama_association
Another Radical Obama Association?
by Amanda Carpenter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug&eurl
Obama and Khalid Mansour
Following Hillary Clinton’s brilliantly executed speech tonight, MSNBC’s Tom Brokaw had this to say i