Ayers Was NOT “Just a Neighbor”
By Matthew Weaver on August 27, 2008 at 10:19 AM in Current Affairs
The American Issues Project, a 501(c)4 organization, prepared and released on August 21st a very damning video of Obama and his association with terrorist friend and colleague William Ayers. The increasingly shrill hysteria by Obama and his supporters over this video is very telling. According to Ben Smith writing in Obama to DOJ: Block terrorist ad at Politico on August 25th they are even now asking the Department of Justice to open a criminal investigation to stop the ad. Previously they sent threatening letters to media attempting to get them to refuse airing the ad. Obama even put out a response ad that, as MarketWatch notes, “fails to dispute a single fact about [his] relationship with domestic terrorist, William Ayers.” That is,
- Obama worked for and with Ayers
- Ayers helped start Obama’s career
- Ayers hosted political fundraisers with and for Obama
Greg Sargent calls the ad “slimy and vicious” in Swift-Boat Group Sinks Nearly $3 Million Into Ad Tying Obama To Ayers at TPM ElectionCentral on August 25th but completely fails to address whether the ad is true or not. As I wrote in a responding comment at TPM:
“Slimy”?! Nothing incorrect about the ad. The “vicious” truth hurts but Obama has around 20 years with Ayers—who he worked for, who helped launch his political career, and much more. Ayers is not, as Obama lied, just someone who lived in the neighborhood. Maybe not a friend but definitely not a stranger.
Stanley Kurtz at National Review has been exploring Obama and Ayer’s relationship with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and has found access to the non-profit’s records are blocked (and since released, at least in part, according to Steve Diamond, law professor and political scientist at Santa Clara University School of Law at his blog Global Labor and Politics.)
In recent days Obama’s relationship with Ayers has gotten a lot of discussion. Chicago Mayor Daley was dismissive “They’re friends. So what?” But as Bud White wrote at length in The Vetting Begins at NoQuarterUSA on August 22:
The strength of the ad is its accuracy. Unlike the Swift Boat Veterans for Truthís ads, there is no available counter-argument. Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Obamaís political career was launched at Bill Ayersí house. Obama did serve on the Woods Fund board with Ayers. The ad hits Obama hardest on his self-proclaimed good judgment. As law professor Steve Diamond states, Obama wasnít just friends with Ayers, he wasnít just a guy in the neighborhood, he was Obamaís benefactor for 20 years.
Previously, Steve Diamond, also writing at NoQuarterUSA in “The Obama-Ayers Top Ten: Highlights of 20 year Obama-Ayers Connection:
If you take the Obama campaign at its word, the contention that there is a relationship between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama is “phony,” “tenuous,” a “stretch.” In Obamaís own words, Ayers was “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” certainly not a long time close political ally.
But a review of just the publicly known highlights of the Ayers-Obama relationship suggests a twenty year pattern of connections between the two.
At the heart of this “Top Ten” list is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and Obama and Ayers co-chaired for five years, raising and spending at least $110 million in an effort to bolster a “radical” (Ayersí word) reform program in the Chicago Public Schools from 1994 to 2001.
Steve Diamond’s Top 10:
- Out of the Woods: The Woods Fund financed the hiring of Obama in 1985 by the Developing Communities Project.
- Know your ABCs: Obamaís DCP supported radical school reform project together with Bill Ayers.
- Putting on the White Shoe: Obama and Dohrn worked for elite law firm Sidley and Austin.
- A hard rock miner: Chicago lefty lawyer and Dohrn classmate Judson Miner hires Barack Obama out of Harvard.
- Rising to the Challenge: Ayers is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers.
- In the Palmer of his hand: Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn host Obamaís state senate kick-off in their Hyde Park home.
- The “lost years”: Ayers and Obama to the rescue of troubled youth. [Note that Diamond not only links Barack with Ayers, but also Michelle who organized and hosted panels with the Barack, Ayers, and herself.]
- The “R” word: Obama advisor promotes a reparations approach to education reform; Ayers endorses it.
- A toast to the maoist: Bill Ayers long time comrade Mike Klonsky blogs for Obama.
- The Great Debate: George v. Barack.
A full reading of Steve Diamond’s article at NoQuarterUSA and his additional writing and updates on his own blog, Global Labor and Politics, is highly recommended. Diamond backs up his writings with extensive references.
Back on March 22nd I wrote what turns out to be a very incomplete commentary on Obama and Ayers “What is Obama’s Relationship with Ayers, Dohrn, and Khalidi?“:
Obama is/was friends, colleagues, and apparent neighbors to former leaders of the Weather Underground who carried out violent bombings in the U.S. While you don’t have much choice over your neighbors, Obama’s relationship with terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn is potentially reflective of his character, judgement, and patriotism. It also reflects a lie from Obama’s campaign and supporters which offered that they only met once for introductions in 1995.
To the contrary, Obama joined Ayers as directors of the private Woods Fund of Chicago from 1999 through the end of 2002. Through this group, they apparently gave money to a group founded by Rashid and Mona Khalidi, former PLO members. And, the Khalidis subsequently hosted fundraisers for Obama’s 2004 Senate race.
Obama’s ad today offering response to the AIT ad was (1) misdirected to McCain and (2) tries to excuse Ayers because Obama was only eight years old. It does not say anything about Obama’s relationship and his lies about it.
It would be very interesting to hear Obama explain how one introductory meeting is the same as a multi-year working relationship with unrepentant American terrorists wherein they jointly gave money to apparently former PLO terrorists who then hosted fundraisers for his Senate campaign.
Obama can try to ignore or even attempt to bully folks in not looking at his relationship with Ayers but it won’t work so long as he is pursuing the presidency. At the end of the day he must explain his past, else accept the very damning portrayals groups like American Issues Project have to share with prospective voters.
Additional Reading:
- American Issues Project offers a 167 page PDF, “Know Enough?” Facts & Articles’s, documenting their video.
- Obama Letter to Stations, PDF, Obama Letter to Stations
- American Issues Project response, PDF, AIT Response to Obama
Credit: Pat Racimora’s “Just a Guy in Barack’s Neighborhood” drawing was originally featured at NoQuarterUSA on May 7, 2008.
Update: Stanley Kurtz is now reporting in interview on FOX that he gained access today to the Annenberg Challenge documents that had been recently withheld from him. His conclusions from this initial viewing:
Ayers and Obama were, in core, this start-up organization
Ayers and Obama worked very closely together, many meetings and more
Very clear foundation failed
Next question is where did Obama and Ayers spend the money
Obama was not truthful
Kurtz repeated multiple times, “Very bad.”
VIDEO: Hillary Clinton - Robbed of the Presidency
Even worse than Hillary being robbed of the presidency is the fact that we, the American people, were robbed of having Hillary as our leader. She is the inspiration and patriotism that we have been waiting for. With her as our president, we could have risen to our true God given potential. Rise Hillary!
I have posted a letter to Hillary Clinton. I beleive it captures how America has felt and why the polls show what they do. I hope everyone who comes to this site takes the time to read it and share it. MCCAIN 08 CLINTON 2012!
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/hillarymylettertoyou.aspx
I also wrote Hillary a letter this morning. I know as intelligent as she is, she totally gets why we can’t vote for Barack no matter what she is politically forced to say.
We all have to do what we have to do. i am voting for McCain because I believe him. i don’t agree with everything he says but I know he does. I know John McCain doesn’t decide who he is today according to the group he is speaking with. I will take integrity and stability over a shot in the dark and Who Knows? anyday…PLUS William Ayers is not the only crazy affiliation this guy has! The Church affiliations, the ACORN groups, and especially troubling the African connection…I believe he is a lot like Bush in the fact that George W. seemed hell bent on finishing a war he obviously felt his father left unwon. He didn’t want to rest until he had gotten his revenge on Saddam Hussein and he used 9/11 as an excuse to do it (McCain reminded us it’s Osama bin Laden we should have been after), like Bush, Obama stays tied to Kenya and it’s political scene. He blames the death of his father on the Tribal problems and the internal struggle between the Islamic and Christian factions within his fathers tribe. He has campaigned and heavily donated money to a political campaign there that erupted in violence against Christian villagers in Dec. 2007 and lasted until late Jan. 2008. Obama has used his influence as a U.S. Senator to insert himself in this situation previously and will continue to wield even more influence as POTUS. Do we want to end the war in Iraq only to engage in a Political War involving U.S. forces in Kenya?
I am sorry Obama’s parents abandoned him as young child. I am also sorry that their inter racial marriage seems to be such a source of continued distress and confusion for Senator Obama, but this is an American election and this country needs someone who is fully engaged and invested in America’s best interests . Perhaps Sen. Obama would be better served to relocate to Africa and provide real leadership to the tribe that he feels needs his attention and interventions. I wish him no harm, I just feel he will do harm to the American people if elected to head our Country. I love my country too much to see that happen. McCain08/Clinton12
Liz, I have been processing for awhile what you pointed out. BO has a void in his heart, a void that is normally filled by parents. He needs to feel loved and admired, which is why he chose to run for a position he is unqualified for. Perhaps, just perhaps, in his own mind, POTUS would fill that void. The man will be hurt again.
My hope for Senator Clinton is that she will be Secretary of State in the McCain Administration. She would be fantastic in that role.
I don’t think Hillary can have anything to do with the McCain administration, or her speech last night was meaningless and false. She is a great woman and an inspirational leader, but she must remain with the Democrats. I could be wrong, though, and in this case that would be a good thing.
Liz B: Wonderful post and great observations. Thanks. You are correct. The WH is not the place to work out your personal issues.
PLEASE NOTE: The “Matthew” writing this post and linking to an unrelated video is NOT the Matthew Weaver that wrote this post.
For “Matthew” this is not the first time that you have done this with my posts, previously even carrying on multiple comments back and forth as if you were the write, me. Please be clear on who you are and are not. Also, as a courtesy to all readers, why don’t you stay on topic?
Matthew Weaver
http://www.theindependentview.com
What would JFK Say?…pass this video on!
http://www.youtube.com/v/8UMswSnYN28
stinky is a worthless piece of crap.
This is but one of the stories that will sink Obama.
Meanwhile republicans can afford to laugh at DNC openly now for being duped into going with the weak candidate
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/gop-to-dnc-haha-pwned/
That’s right. If things get bad enough and all of Bambi’s Chickens of Destruction come home to roost at once, I wonder if the DNC might come to its senses and subversively bring him down themselves. Just a crazy theory I’ve been contemplating.
It’s an excellent theory–except for the part about the DNC coming to its senses.
yes, yes…Obama is going to sink faster than the Titanic without a lifejacket.
Bring it on!! I’ll get the popcorn.
C-Ya bambibots and fraud democrats!!!
Fraud, Lies, Cheating at Democracy.
Americans deserve better!
NOBAMA!
That’s not the William Ayers that I didn’t really know!
Something completely overlooked by people:
While Obama was sitting as Chairman of the Chicago Annenbug challenge doing the bidding of Bill Ayers, he was also sitting in the Illinois State Senate, passing legislation supporting Bill Ayers laundry list.
Who is stupid enough to not think that this would also happen if Obama became POTUS?
Was this also when he was funneling government funds to Rezko to worsen the living conditions of his constituents?
Was this also around the same time he helped stack boards to manipulate monies, including IL teachers pension funds,and demanded kickbacks from investment firms in exchange for the approval of their proposals.?
Was this also when he was committing money laundering and accepting a monthly salary from a client, Robert Blackwell, that was not acually a leagl client of his?
He is telling us loudly and clearly what he will do with American taxpayer money.
Let’s see:
Ayers was ‘just a guy in the hood’
Rezko was a ‘guy he did 5 hrs of work for’
Blackwell a ‘guy who was his legal client’ for which he provided no evidence other than including Blackwell’s name on a complete client list of his employer
Not only is he shady, not only is he completely dishonest with the voters(including his supporters), but he has the audicity to deny, ignore and lie about facts that are documented.
What level of mental incapacity would allow a person to say someone he’s known and worked with for more than 20 years, in a public fashion no less, was just a guy in his neighborhood.
Barack’s message to voters: I think you are incredibly stupid and I will do whatever I like without question from you.[ Nose sniffing the air in act of condescension]
Comment by uhh uhh describes Obama to a tee. He is smarmy and dishonest. Just an old fashioned pol used to back rooms and kickbacks; however, it’s on a larger scale now that he is running for president. I can’t wait for someone to check those contributions he has been receiving from the so-called little people. I wonder how long it will be before he is in jail.
Does anyone know why they are waiting to sentence Rezko?
The man is what he does.
McCain has terrorist ties himself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html
http://mccain.bravenewfilms.org/blog/40410-mccain-linked-to-terrorist-libyan-regime
http://leonardosnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccains-financial-ties-to-terrorists.html
So does Hillary.
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/04/18/hillarys-terrorist-ties/
Dick Morris? I watched this man. His hatred of Hillary is so evident Stevie Wonder could see it.
It’s a fact Obama served on these boards with Ayers.
Painting John McCain as in league with terrorists?
Keep it up.
Not working. Funny how Huffington et. al. got this info so fast. Think the Obama campaign fed it to them? Nah. Not buying it.
Did you see Dick Morris after the first night of the convention with Bill O’Reilly? He was saying Obama made a mistake by going with Biden and he should have gone with Sebelius because it would have mollified Clinton supporters if he had picked a woman. What an idiot! He still doesn’t get it! Even O’Reilly told him if Obama had picked Sebelius it would have been even more offensive to Clinton supporters. I personally would not have voted for any ticket with Obama on it, even if Hillary was VP, but if he had picked Sebelius you would have heard a YO SCREAM all the way from Washington State. That would have pissed me off to the nth degree.
LMFAO. McCain in league with terrorists? Knowing the America haters at the Huff Po, the story is probably about McCains sons serving in Iraq.
Oh yeah, a McCain backer’s firm. Not quite the same as personal relationship. That’s what Obama had with Ayers. Ayers personally helped launch Obama’s career. McCain already has a career.
Okey dokey.
Yep , you are right. McCain and those who will vote for McCain is an absolute terror for Obama . GET OVER IT!!
yes these tools are going to bat for barky the terrorist. ha ha ha ha
your sources: ZERO CREDIBILITY
you: ZERO STUPID TROLL TRYING DESERATELY TO IGNORE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR ZERO CANDIDATE
yes these tools are going to bat for barky the terrorist. ha ha ha ha
your sources: ZERO CREDIBILITY
you: ZERO STUPID TROLL TRYING DESERATELY TO IGNORE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR ZERO CANDIDATE
Ha!
Hillary or McCain 2008
Again, the Obama trolls use offense for defense. They do not address Obama’s problems, instead pointing the finger at someone else. Obama has no accountability and neither do they.
I still want to know why Dick Morris was in Kenya helping Odinga. Please explain.
Him, [EDITED BY ADMINISTRATOR FOR LEWD ATTACK CONTENT] - what’d you miss the Fox news BREAKING story??
So. In the end (play on word fully intended) all you got is insults, inuendo and lame adolescent satire? Goodness! So much for hopey changey …. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Read Obama Nation for acomplete rundown on that. He went there for Obama, that much I can tell you, you’ll have to get the book to read the whole story. Interesting stuff.
HAHAHHAAHAHH@”dick morris”.
Dude can’t you find someone better than a hooker’s toe-sucking lover?
Methinks they (the Obama cultists) do protest too much.
Muuuch too much. And why do they go off-topic with Larry Sinclair and the COLB issue? Is Ayers such a hot topic that drugs, sex, and document forgery are now suitable as distractions? I think uhh uhh nailed it, if there was any circular gratification going on it was the soothing sensation of $$$ greasing palms, and it was going on vertically and horizontally among all interested parties. And, it was not clean money somehow.
Fantastic comment, bemused! ROFL.
Oh come on. Obama may have been 8 years old when Ayers did his damage. However, he was an adult when he chose to associate with him. Ayers was unrepentant as late as the early 2000’s (don’t have the exact date). Obama wasn’t 8 years old then.
Obama wasn’t 8 years old when allowed Ayers to help launch his political career and fund raise for him.
Also, the Obama campaign is touting his living overseas as a child as proof of his ability to get along with and understand other cultures. Funny how they leave out his living in Indonesia as a result of his mother’s marriage to and his adoption by a foreign national.
Additionally, Obama was a child when the March on Selma happened. Yet that’s being touted as proof of his Civil Rights creds.
Guess they can’t make up their minds.
Believe me, if barky worked and was friends with this man, they have the same ideals. As a someone else said:
“Something completely overlooked by people:
While Obama was sitting as Chairman of the Chicago Annenbug challenge doing the bidding of Bill Ayers, he was also sitting in the Illinois State Senate, passing legislation supporting Bill Ayers laundry list.
Who is stupid enough to not think that this would also happen if Obama became POTUS?”
Exact date:
Source:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-25-ayers_N.htm
Y’all will like this.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/worshipme.jpg
Denver is my town, this Obama fest has been nauseating.
outstanding graphic…
Bluto for PResident!
All hail the O-Hole Toga!
IT’s a great day for hopey changey stuff!
Woo-hoo!
ROFLMAO
Nice touch with the arugula, lol.
Obambi wants to portray himself as the emperor BUT the whole world has seen last night that Hillary is the REAL Presidential material hands down!!
Think about it, Hillary and Bill carry the convention and Obambi comes in for the rewards, that’s sooooooooooooo wrong.
……… and how does Obambi try and make up this deficit, he has his wife Meeechelle volunteering in full view of media to send boxed care packages to our troops, another original Obambi idea NOT. In fact if I’m not mistaken that project was started way back when by a 10 year old child.
I’ve told my sons that it was the Clintons who established the strength of the current Democratic party, and now they have been shat upon. To disrespect them in this way, has me, a Republican, angry. You all are experiencing what we have for some time. We had candidates forced upon us, the MSM’s biased opinions and outright lies fed to the nation, and heck, even internationally; and our message was lost in the process.
I have been one of McCain’s biggest critics over the years, but I am seeing him in a new light these days. I am not a wingnut, never really have been; and the more that I learn of McCain, the more I respect him. He will be the unbiased leader our nation needs.
On a lighter note, Hillary looked wonderful last night. I love her pantsuits and am envious that the woman can wear any color and look fabulous.
That was beautiful, but the scale is wrong. Barkus Minimus has a little head and big feet.
Clay feet at that. LOL.
I am making a slide show, that one is an excellent edition!
Remember to treat the Denver Sanitation Engineers with the utmost courtesy. They have a lot of work to do when the circus blows town.
….and if you see a homeless vet give ‘em enough for a decent meal.
Just words…
Don’t you folls get it. We will never vote for Obama so stop wasting your time here.
aww c-mon cali, loosen up…
What’s not to like?
lol
Since I wrote this post there has been additional information from Stanley Kurtz regarding his new access and initial look at the Annenberg documents. He reports in an interview on FOX with Greta that from is initial viewing:
- Ayers and Obama were in core group of this start-up organization
- Ayers and Obama worked very closely together, many meetings and more
- Very clear foundation failed
- Next question is where did Obama and Ayers spend the money
- Obama was not truthful
Kurtz repeated multiple times, “Very bad.”
Matthew Weaver
http://www.theindependentview.com
According to Steve Diamond Obama and Ayers were working on a reparations plan to give AA’s free educations. Now think about that for a minute — you give one group free educations while the rest struggle to send our kids to college and you can see that in 20 years you have redistributed the wealth of this country.
Please provide source or link. Thanks.
“Ayers and Darling-Hammond both hold the same opinion on a key education policy issue: support for repayment of centuries of “educational debt” to people of color.”
“Bill Ayers endorsed the proposal for the repayment of the centuries of “educational debt” that some allege is owed to people of color. This is a proposal that Professor Darling-Hammond has also endorsed.”
Professor Darling-Hammond is an education advisor to the Obama campaign.
s.hall,
re: the Ayers/Obama education reparation plan?
If this is true-then we need to spend more time on the Ayers/Obama relationahip AND the following needs to be investigated further.
What MIGHT happen-in this day and age in the US- if you give one race free and clear education while you make economic conditions so poor that other racial groups-especially in the middle class or poor categories can not afford education - this action (reparation in form of free education)will promote great antagonism between the races.
Racism exists-yes-no question. Major problem in Us & world but the solution chosen will determine whether we can learn, change & move on….or we all wind up killing each other.
There are some people out there who dont care if we all wind up killing each other.
Read these articles-come to own conclusions…
Although the topic of race was brought up constantly in this campaign by Sen Obama & his handlers, the topic of reparations for slavery was never discussed.
What is Sen Obama’s position on this issue?
Interesting article (see below) which may allow us to infer what Sen Obama’s position on reparations issue MIGHT BE:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633/page/1
“When Barry Became Barack” by Richard Wolffe, Jessica Ramirez and Jeffrey Bartholet
NEWSWEEK 3/31/08 Issue
I found this story very interesting however I was quiet surprised when I reached the last page.
The author recounted a story that was passed on to Sen Obama by white family members concerning an incident at a waikiki bar involving Sen Obama’s bio-dad Barry Sr.
“Barry’s white grandfather and several other Hawaiian friends take Barry Sr. to a Waikiki bar. It’s a joyous scene, everyone eating and drinking “to the sounds of a slack-key guitar,” when a white man with a booming voice announces to the bartender that he shouldn’t have to drink “next to a nigger.” The stunned clientele expects a fight. But Barry Sr. smiles and quietly lectures the man “about the folly of bigotry, the promise of the American dream, and the universal rights of man.” In response, the shamed white man gives Barry Sr. $100, in apparent payment for his sin of racism. Even the young Obama found the tale hard to believe. But many years later, he recalls in “Dreams From My Father,” he got a phone call from a Japanese-American man who had been a classmate of Barry Sr.’s in Hawaii. Unprompted, the man told Obama the same story. Obama says he was struck by the man’s tone of “disbelief—and hope.”
Then-when I learned how the Alinsky method works-I realized that “Gives barry Sr. $100″ part of the article was just keeping in line with convincing certain classes/races of people that they dont deserve what they have, make them feel guilty, and ….???? Promote antagonism between the races-The old divide and conquer theory. Keep us all fighting with each other so that we cant come together as one and challenge the “Real enemy (ies)?” There are different theories out there as to who the real enemy is (are) so I will leave it here.
In the past, Sen Obama supported the very controversial 3rd ward Ald. Dorothy Tillman in her runoff against an independent candidate. Tillman is one of the most important and outspoken U.S advocates of reparations for slavery.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/miller/309639,CST-EDT-MILL23.article
SunTimes Commentary- “Will 3rd Ward politics affect Obama’s presidential race? “ by Rich Miller 3/23/07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Tillman
What about Sen Obama’s position regarding reparations for slavery from western and ex-colonial European powers for Africa and African nations?
During the 2001 UN-sponsored World Conference against Racism, many African nations demanded an apology-plus other things- from ex-colonial European nations for the role they (European nations) had in promoting the slave trade. Why doesn’t Sen Obama ever discuss this very important ‘race’ issue.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/09/01/durban.slavery/index.html
Read about Saul Alinsky ’school’ of community organizing. What is the real goal of this method?
Divide the races and conquer the US or just being more effective organizers and everyone coexisting happily? Learn more.
http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-community-organizer-what-is-community-organizing-anyway
Someone definetely needs to look into this…We will learn much about what is really driving Sen Obama’s candidacy…yes he wants to be president-and many people want him to be president …why?
When all the dust settles-what does Sen Obama feel REALLY STRONGLY about? What is important to him in his (and his immediate family’s) heart and soul. WHo or what has he been associated with the longest amount of time throughout his life?
What MIGHT happen-in this day and age in the US- if you give one race free and clear education while you make economic conditions so poor that other racial groups-especially in the middle class or poor categories can not afford education - this action (reparation in form of free education)will promote great antagonism between the races
Such was the past of this land. The Unforgiven.
Don’t you fools get it. We will never vote for Obama so stop wasting your time here.
I just heard Mike Allen, of The Politico, report that they are going to let Bill talk about what he wants to tonight…the economy. This ought to be good. I also just heard Bill Kristol ripping Hillary because he didn’t think she didn’t do enough to promote Obama for president. He said she made it all about herself instead of Obama. He is such a schmuck. Hillary’s speach was just fantastic! She looked like the president up there. You couldn’t even tell she was reading off of a prompter. She is just a natural.
As well they SHOULD let Bill Clinton talk about the economy.
If they have any chance at all bringing voters into the fold it’s on the economy.
For all you Botheads cracking about the 90s are over, we KNOW that!!!
But guess what? The first decade of the 21st century has been far from a prize. Since the 90’s were just a decade ago and since American prosperity was good during the Clinton years, it’s the only example we have in recent years to pull from.
0bama and his supporters need to grow up and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
He’s not going to win without reconcilliation.
The fact that he seems to not be able to deal with that does not give credence to his ability to lead.
Well, I don’t suppose that it should surprise me that you guys are aligning yourselves with Republican groups. Apparently you are a bunch of DINOs.
If you somehow manage to have Hillary’s name placed as the nominee, please count me out of this one.
I won’t vote for someone who lied about Bosnia, went back on their written and spoken word vowing not to have anything to do with improperly set up elections, can’t properly manage their own campaign, uses the old Republican style of attack dog politics, lies about how many votes she got, poses as whatever she can to get votes and changes her image as often as necessary to get more votes and who stays with a man who has a long record of humiliating her with his sexual antics, making it plain that her marriage is simply one of political expediency.
If that’s the case, I won’t be voting this election. And before you cry ‘misogyny!’, please note that I am a Democrat and live in Washington State. I have no problem voting women into positions of power.
No, thank you.
So I guess being referred to as a b*tch, c*nt, and a wh*re are okay with you. That’s what happened with Hillary. If that’s how you support women candidates I’d hate to see how you react to women candidates you don’t like.
So, did you miss the part about being in Washington State? Did you miss the part about voting women into a position of power?
I don’t give a rat’s ass if Hillary is a woman. In point of fact, if she had run a campaign that was worthy of being elected as the candidate for the party, I would have been very pleased for such a historic moment. I started out, as a matter of fact, being a Clinton supporter.
But she lost me with the way she ran her campaign. I’ve seen way too much of the Republican Noise Machine, Hannity and Limbaugh and all the rest practicing the politics of distraction and destruction. Also, her constant carping and complaining about things, (Why do I always get the first question?), was not very pretty at all. Playing the victim role is not something that is conducive to being Commander in Chief. That’s how she ran her campaign and that’s why she lost it.
It was a huge shame that that happened. What an opportunity to lose, and what a sad thing to lose it. She just didn’t bring it, not in the right way and not with the right message, so, lose it she did. And, she lost it on her merits as a candidate, not on her merits as a woman.
BTW, where in my post did you read me referring to Senator Clinton in that fashion? You won’t find it because it’s not there. If that’s what happened to Hillary, that’s a real shame and shouldn’t happen to anybody. However, that is not a valid reason for voting someone into office. I’m certainly not supporting Senator Obama because he’s black, I really don’t care if he’s purple or puce. I care that he ran a good campaign, that he treated his opponent like a human being instead of a tackling dummy, that he concentrated on the issues, that he had the courage to stand in front of the country and say that he couldn’t deny a man who was like family to him, putting his entire candidacy to the people to decide if they still wanted him. The answer, by now, is obvious. Many others appreciated his candor, his courage and his viewpoint of the race as something that was political, not social.
So, if you’re going to bring that stuff up, then let’s see some proof. Let’s see some examples. Let me see what you’re talking about and judge for myself. You can contact me at obamadebates111@gmail.com. If you’re only interested in being rude, please don’t send anything. If you’re interested in talking to me about what I think, I’m very very interested in talking to you about why you feel the way you do. I’ve tried to engage Clinton supporters this way, to no avail, so I’d given up on the idea, and, sadly, become ascerbic.
I apologize.
So if you’re willing to explore the issues, I would really really like to find out where you’re coming from. I promise not to be abrasive, I’m very interested in your position. Please.
-Joe
“poses as whatever she can to get votes and changes her image as often as necessary to get more votes”
replace HE with She and you’ve just described your idol oblah blah.
this should read: replace She with HE. my mistake
Noted, Joe Lang, now go away.
I’m really looking forward to seeing Obama’s Big Fat Greek Acceptance Speech!
Greek columns? really?
OMG, REALLY?
hahahahhaahaaa
hahahahaaaaahahaha
hahahahahahahaaaa
heeheehee
hahahahahahahahahaa
hahahahhahahahahaha
wooo, ho, wow.
snicker.
heh.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
Toga…Toga…Toga…Toga…Party time
Forget Jon Bon Jovi and Jennifer Hudson…We need Ottis Day and the Knights…
“We’d like to do for you now, a little tune entitled Shama Lama Ding Dong, so hit it!”
Obama is a horse’s ass. Can they make him look like a centaur, too? that will add to the effect nicely!
Just in case I have not said it lately, let me be clear. I am ashamed to have ever been a democrat and horribly embarrassed by their behavior!
I think that Biden would have to be the back end. Thank goodness it is him and not Hillary. Women have been bringing up 0bama’s rear for far too long. In the end, it will be Nancy and 0donna. Michelle is not about losers.
Ceaser…
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In the end it is just a prop. Symbols made on the cheap.
Ya think it was union labor that built it?
typical idiot troll. hiding under someone elses name. just can’t stand it, can you? REAL democrats voting for America, not some fake toga wearing, crack smoking, narcissistic personality disorder child.
joe lang — guess what you are allowed to vote for anyone you choose. Now allow us the same priviledge.
you’re the same sexist pig that was on here the other day….
JOE LANG
Well I guess you won’t be voting for barky either since he represents all the things you stated. Glad to see you stand by your sound judgement. Too bad you’ll have to sit out this election.
Lied about Bosnia? You sure get your feelings hurt easily. “Misspoke” is fair enough - she traveled into a combat zone, there were snipers in the hills, and she could easily have been killed. Hell, Barack is afraid to go to Denver for his own convention. He hid in the living room of a nice white family in Kansas City.
And this:
In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago’s gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.
As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.
The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.
“That was Chicago politics,” said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. “Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race, he made sure voters had just one choice.”
From here:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html
We all know the deal here. Now he has done this to Senator Clinton. It’s disgusting.