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Clips of Sarah Palin from the Women in Leadership Forum

On Motherhood & Politics

On Hillary Clinton & The Perceived Whine

On Sports & Being a Beauty Queen

On Corruption in Alaska

From my blog, By The Fault.

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Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-09-05 11:02:37

Thanks for these, Charles.

BREAKING: McCain poised to beat Obama in total views for each candidate’s nomination acceptance speeches:

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/mccain_tv_ratings_beat_obama_i.php

This is AWESOME news. If this many people watched McCain, look for even more of a jump in the polls for The American Hero.

Yes!

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-09-05 11:03:28

EDIT: ‘Viewers,’ not ‘views.’

:)

 

Comment by Fuck you Barack Obama! | 2008-09-05 12:30:38

BREAKING: McCain poised to beat Obama in total views for each candidate’s nomination acceptance speeches:

Obama made a nomination speech? ;)

 

Comment by JohninCA | 2008-09-05 12:31:31

McCain already within 4 points in Gallup tracking, which was done mostly before the speech.

Comment by Duras | 2008-09-05 12:41:23

The latest Rasmussen poll has it down to one point. And this was done entirely before McCain’s speech last night.

 
 

Comment by jrterrier | 2008-09-05 13:13:38

Palin is awesome and these videos show it. That’s why the pro-Obama blogosphere and cable networks are in a tizzy. i am only saddened by the fact that the Dems may have permanently denied Hillary by blocking her nomination at this time.

Comment by mary | 2008-09-05 20:00:52

jrterrier,

How sad. Hillary’s policy positions, intelligence and far-wider-reaching understanding of how legislative changes can help girls and women all over the world….
Sarah is far more limited in her world-view. She’s okay at teh local level, but there’s no way Sarah can compete with HIllary’s depth and intelligence.

We know Hillary and Sarah Palin is no Hillary!

Why did Paliln try to diminish the very REAL SEXIST ABUSE suffered by Hillary.

Does Sarah find it less hurtful now that she and her family are being demolished?

Would Sarah like to go back and revisit her statement about ‘WHINING ABOUT SEXISM”

Hope Sarah learned her FEMINISM 101 lesson!

 
 

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-05 16:58:36

This is great news indeed although the Obammunistbots are already claiming that McCain’s large numbers of viewers at the RNC convention was only because Democrats also tuned it to watch LMAO

They are also claiming that no Republicans watched the DNC convention so those numbers are just reflecting the Democrats that tuned in and why they could be lower. Damn, they are also mind-readers now…how else can they be so sure that no Repubs watched Obammunist spew his spiel at Invesco field.

The insanity of TheMessiah’s cult followers continues…

 
 

Comment by john | 2008-09-05 11:09:03

No McCain. No Obama. hillary 2012!

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-09-05 11:17:53

Move on John… Hillary has. You aren’t helping her any.

This isn’t about Hillary anymore… It’s about AMERICA.

Comment by Tyrione | 2008-09-05 11:25:48

No McCain. No Obama. hillary 2012!

Are you pushing for a 3rd party candidate? If so, then state it.

Yes. 2012 for Senator Clinton is a must. However, this is 2008 and the DNC proved it doesn’t give a rat’s ass for Women in Power, just women to support the Male of their choosing.

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-05 12:24:55

I will tolerate Palin but I do not like Mooselady and her condescending comments about Hillary. I am sure she doesn’t enjoy the taste of the same sexist attacks these past few days. I hope she has learned her lesson before commenting on Hillary.

I know repugs on this site proclaim how much they love Mooselady. I can only tolerate Palin, but I LOVE HILLARY!!!

HILLARY ‘12!!!

HILLARY, ALWAYS!!!

Comment by wry | 2008-09-05 12:35:30

I get it Lochos. I think 2008 will go down in history as the year the Democrats embraced sexism, and the Republicans finally acknowledged it exists.

Sarah Palin will never be Hillary Clinton, but I’m loving her poking her female finger in Barky’s eye.

 

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 12:49:57

Agree with you. And I didn’t think that this site was a cheerleading site for McCain/Palin; I thought it was an anti-Obama site and all views against Obama are welcome.

 

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-05 13:40:02

IA. I don’t like her telling Hillary to work harder, as if Hillary weren’t already working 3X as hard just to get half the credit. Nothing pisses me off more than someone suggesting to me that I do something I’m already doing! One could say some of the things in her speech were whiny. I will still vote for her, and she will quickly learn that not calling a spade as spade gives a free pass to the source of the “ism” (ism, ism ;-) Besides, Hillary wasn’t whining, just answering someone else’s question.

Comment by Annie Oakley | 2008-09-05 13:53:33

Agreed. Hillary didn’t whine and nobody can say she didn’t work harder. No other woman in this country has been gang banged by the good old boys the way Hillary was, and with so little defense.

Comment by CarlaforHillary | 2008-09-05 17:48:25

Agreement here as well. I sort of was taken aback by Sarah’s comments about Hillary.

Sarah could just have easily said she can understand why Hillary reacted the way she did because of horrible way she has been and is still being treated.

Sarah’s speech, while funny and sometimes spot-on could be seen as whining. She talks about moving above it, but her whole speech was about reacting to the accusations of the Obama camp and the media.

Vote for McCain/Palin if you must - But do not turn on Hillary and remember:

Sarah Palin was never and will never be Hillary Clinton. Don’t confuse them, or project what you saw in Hillary onto Sarah. They are not the same.

With that being said, I thought this was an Anti-Obama site anyway. Let’s make Obama lose on his own accord, not because we have to push for McCain/Palin.

As soon as the election is over and if Obama loses, we have to start campaigning for Hillary. It will be a lot harder if we all have been seen as McCain/Palin supporters, I think.

 
 

Comment by Zaggs | 2008-09-05 14:38:42

Try to keep in mind this was before Palin joined the ticket. She is a politician and hence must present herself. I don’t see her ever presenting herself as the victim so she played that up. She’s from Alaska so she does have to make the most of her chances and that means going over the top at times.
But now that she is with McCain I’ll bet he won’t tolerate any such comments about Hillary unless Hillary fires first.

 

Comment by memi | 2008-09-05 20:08:24

Blue Topaz

Hillary never “whined” Why is Sarah saing this.

could it be that now, after being recipeint of all the abuse by media and obamabots she’s changed her small neanderthal mind?
Sarah sounds like a real Republican!

Sarah should apply to work for Obama. He, too doesn’t see Sexism.

PALIN SHOULD RESTATE THE WHINING STATMENT…NOW THAT’S SHE’S THE VICTIM OF HER CRITICISMS

 
 

Comment by joanie in Brooklyn | 2008-09-05 15:01:16

I’m with you, Lochos. Doesn’t Sarah Palin get that she’s standing on Hillary’s shoulders? or is she also narcissistic enough to believe that she would have been chosen even if Hillary hadn’t run on the Democratic side?

She needs to tread carefully. It’s not a done deal. She has solidified their base, but we all know that they need other voters to win. So it’s not enought to say
“With all due respect to Hillary”, then proceed with a snarky criticism. First of all Hillary has been subjected to sexist comments for a lot longer than Sarah Palin if only because she’s been in the game longer.

Like Bob Marley (and my Dad) used to say: Who feels it, knows it.

Comment by mary | 2008-09-05 20:11:31

Joanie in Brooklyn

THANKS. Sarah is being snarky and ungrateful.
She should apologize to Hillary for these ungracious comments!

How does she feel now that she’s receiving all that crap from the Obamabots?

republicans like to think they’re tough.
NOONE’S AS TOUGH AS HILLARY! or as intelligent or as compassionate.

Sarah doesn’t care about Universal Health care. She doesn’t believe a raped or incensed 10-year old child should not be forced to raise another child! Nope.

WHEN DID SARAH MAKE COMMENT ABOUT HILLARY’S WHINING????

date of recoding please!!!!

 
 

Comment by jcm | 2008-09-05 16:29:16

I share your admiration of Hillary - but - I wonder, if you reread what you wrote, if you can see that it is the same kind of stuff that Obots write about AdolfObama.
I bet that is not what you intend.

 

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-09-05 17:22:21

I agree, people need to remember Hillary never made one comment about her abuse until WomenCount Pac started up and placed ads in USA Today and NYT. It was at that time that Hillary made her comments about the sexist media. And I might recall she spoke about how women were treated not how she was treated.

 
 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-05 12:24:56

I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. Neither silver spoon, second generation politician appealed to me. There’s nothing in the world wrong with voting for Ralph Nader if you are a democrat who is disgusted with Obama.

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-09-05 12:37:22

Oh YOU are responsible! WE got Bush instead of Gore… Now we will get barky instead of McCain…

Your vote IS your own… BUT protest votes are worthless in the REAL world

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:00:03

You have no idea where s/he voted. Outside of FL and to a lesser degree NH, the Nader vote did not matter one iota (Gore did win the popular vote and the other swing states didn’t change with Nader’s tally). Even so, Gore still won; though his campaign was inept (Brazile) particularly in the FL re-count and the SCOTUS had to give Bush the Presidency.

This time, any vote not for Obama helps McCain, except those for Bob Barr (believe his voters would normally vote for Republican). Even in swing states, it is ok to vote Nader, Green, no one at the top of the ticket, etc. (please don’t stay home, vote down ticket), if you would have voted Democratic. Sure, a vote for McCain is a stronger vote against Obama, but, the others are good enough.

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-05 13:46:57

Nader took repub money to campaign in FL. It was suggested to ralph to work for his 5% in very red states so as not to hurt Gore in electoral votes. He followed the money, and 8 years later……. he’s still an asshole.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-09-05 15:34:19

Everyone’s vote is their choice. Gore lost because 0donna convince him that campaigning with Bill was a bad idea. Kerry lost because he couldn’t stand up to the smear.

 
 

Comment by cellocat | 2008-09-05 16:25:20

come on. If Gore had just won his own state, he’d have been president. He mistakenly distanced himself from the Clintons, and failed to show Bush up in the debates, and he LOST.

 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-09-05 12:37:48

What about Cynthia McKinney?
i would vote McCain if I lived in a swing state just to destroy the evil DNC, but since I live in a solidly blue state, I have the luxury of voting for a black Woman.

Comment by JozefAL | 2008-09-05 13:39:41

Well, I live in a pretty solidly red state but one that many have considered “in play” because of Barry’s skin color. Alabama has a sizable AA population and any sort of major increase in AA voter registration could actually swing the state into the Democratic column in spite of the fact that since the ratification of the 24th Amendment and the passage of the Civil Rights Act, only ONE Democrat has managed to take Alabama’s popular and electoral votes (that was Carter in 1976) and only one other non-GOP candidate has done so (that was Wallace in 1968). Even Bill Clinton, the best President for African-Americans, couldn’t manage to take the state in 1992 or 1996 (and in both years, Perot was responsible for peeling off more votes from the GOP than the Dems).
What I saw as a pretty strong suggestion that Alabama will remain in the GOP column is that the combined total of the Democratic primary vote for the US Senate was still considerably smaller than the vote for the GOP winner’s vote (and he only got a bit over 90% of the GOP primary vote). And the strongest candidate (and primary winner) on the Democratic side was an African-American woman.

 

Comment by florence | 2008-09-05 14:15:41

I voting for the Green party, too. I’m in a solid Blue state, too.

 
 
 

Comment by puma smells Trolls | 2008-09-05 20:03:19

sjc tx

YOU ARE A DAMN REPUBLICAN BOT and get the truth out boy!

I’ve watched you Trolling around speaking up for McCain.

So, sjctx is A REPUBLICAN OBAMABOT TROLL!!

Do not respond to this sicko who’s tellling John (probably same bot) to forget about HIHllary

YOU TROLLS ARE REALLY DUMB, AIN’T YOU jerks!

 
 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-05 11:35:13

I have to say, it bothers me a great deal that Hillary is now being used as a tool to beat the Palin popularity. Some may say it’s political but dang, I would like to see integrity come out from Hillary. Barry and his minions crapped on her and called her a bitch throughout the primary, now she’s their hero? She’s not good enough to be on Precious’ VP ticket but good enough to be his little attack dog? What’s wrong with that picture, really.

Comment by Darryl | 2008-09-05 11:37:45

don’t worry vinnie, its not going to work. Women are smarter than that.

 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-09-05 11:48:58

I will be VERY suprised if Hillary comes out and ‘puts down’ Sarah Palin… If she does, she will lose ALOT of respect from people who supported her in the primary. She is smarter than that and knows how risky that could be. But… that said, it is DISPICABLE that obassole is USING her this way. The man is a PIG and most of the DNC. I wish she would just tell him to F.O.! The fact that she hasn’t, speaks volumes to her character. She can make or break this election for the Dems… But so can WE. We don’t have to play the game as she does. Women and men (sorry guys), KNOW this. We won;t be fooled. We won;t forget come Nov.

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-05 12:31:24

Hillary has to take back the Democratic Party from Obama you moron. She has to continue to maintain the appearance of a loyal Democrat.

Comment by jcm | 2008-09-05 16:35:47

So it is okay to have her help put a thug in the White House for appearances?

Comment by LilRod | 2008-09-05 18:50:05

She might want at least a THUG who will not veto bills…pragmatic she has always been

 
 
 
 

Comment by Hanna | 2008-09-05 11:52:29

Right on. I was a huge Hillary supporter but watching her at this point is driving my support away from her. I understand why she would choose to go out there for Obama on a political level, but believing that she knows how horrible he would be for the country - saving her own political future is sickening to watch. I feel like she’s selling out. Makes me want Palin all the more. At least she seems to stand on principles. (I may not agree with her positions visa vie abortion - but I respect her integrity- where the heck is Hillary’s? If Hillary goes after Palin there will be blow back from some of the 18 mil.

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-09-05 11:59:21

Exactly Hanna. Exactly. Hillary KNOWS how to play politics AND get things done. I will ALWAYS respect her for who she is and what she stands for. But I also am wanting to trust her and will wait to hear what she says before I abandon hope. Look at the strained and veiled speeches she has given since June…

Hillary is a politician. So is Palin. They both have my utmost respect as strong intelligent women…

 

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-09-05 12:25:53

Hillary promised on the beginning of the primaries, when everybody told her to quit, because she is damaging Obama, that she would campaign for Obama.

She is keeping her promise. Even if it hurts. This is what makes her better than the Chicago style politicians.

Stop trashing her.

Comment by Zaggs | 2008-09-05 14:45:26

She also said that McCain had the experience to lead, but not Obama.
McCain also went out of his way (at least a little) to say nice things about her. If she really goes after him in favor of Obama then its not country first but Hillary first.

Comment by Jane from Tx | 2008-09-05 19:51:23

I dont agree that it is all about Hillary’s career for Hillary. In some ways the politicos have much less luxury to voice their private opinions than any of us do. For most of us here this election is about country first, not the political party that feels co-opted. But Hillary is far more deeply entrenched in the Party, what she going to do - want to end up like Lieberman with no real pull or sway?
I dont think Palin was trying to trash Hillary either, she made these comments before she became the VP nominee. She was I think trying to send a message, that you can see very clearly from her background, is one of women playing hard ball and needing dare I say it - No Quarter! As we know Hillary is one tough fighter, but she is also a very, very experienced diplomat, so she chooses very carefully what she says and does. The comments that Hillary made at the time about msm sexism were made because many of her supporters were asking her to acknowledge it, and because there were a few articles about it, (a very few maybe) I dont think Palin is trying to play down Hillary at all - better not! or she will not get my support!!

 
 
 

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-05 12:28:39

Hillary doesn’t owe Palin a thing. Don’t you dare go on Hillary, asshole.

For me, the most important thing is for Hillary to remain intact to defeat McCain and Palin in 2012. You can count on that.

Hillary ‘12!!!

 

Comment by cleffnote | 2008-09-05 13:03:46

Hillary has to support the DNC candidate or she will have absolutely no way of winning the next battle. Come on people, we knew this was going to happen. She can’t run as an independent and expect to win and she certainly can’t run as a Republican. Please, save your anger and disappointment for Obama, he’s the one that has helped destroy the DNC, it’s Hillary that is trying to keep it together so that she can win in 2012. Obama’s going to lose the election anyway.
Hang in there, remember how much we hated disloyalty. Lets not eat our own.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:43:15

Thank you for saying this cleffnote.

:)

 

Comment by Zaggs | 2008-09-05 14:54:13

If she just shills for the Obama because the party wants her to, its going to be damn hard for her to pretend to be independent later on and attract republican voters.

 

Comment by jcm | 2008-09-05 16:43:18

Do you really think, with all the behind scenes stuff that the DNC will really get cleaned out in 4 years. What she needs to do is get all her supporters and start a new 3rd party - that way she keeps her ethics and dignity intact.

 

Comment by LilRod | 2008-09-05 19:16:42

Come on guys…Hillary IS a politician..and a GREAT individual..but she has to work within the system

No trashing of Hillary here…come on..keep focused..don’t turn into rightwinger nuts

 
 

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:09:36

I don’t buy this “huge Hillary supporter, but,” crap! Hillary Clinton is doing exactly what she said she would do and she is doing it the right way, with issues. I have not seen any personal attacks (in fact, she has acknowledged Palin respectfully).

Stop this “saving her own political future” at the expense of Country mantra! Hillary and Bill Clinton have done more for our Country than any of the the others combined, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of what they have accomplished. If she were to break with Obama, the dogs would be unleashed against her and her supporters and you could forget about any good coming from that!

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:45:42

don’t buy this “huge Hillary supporter, but,” crap!

- I’m not buying it either alexei.

It should be obvious to anyone that Hillary would never use personal attacks on Palin. Policy issues is something different altogether.

 
 

Comment by Raven | 2008-09-05 15:15:30

Hillary is going to go out to campaign FOR the
Democratic agenda, which includes many of the
things she campaigned on. She can campaign against the McCain-Palin ticket without seeking
to personally attack either. Obama has Biden
that was his choice. They will win or loose on their own merit. Today, I’m sure there are alot
of Democrats second-guessing what’s happened up
til now. But, we are where we are. Hillary can’t be expected to WIN it for them too! Besides, OB has Claire, Nancy and all the rest of his female devotees.
I have no problem with Hillary keeping faith
with what she knows will be important: downticket Democrats to get the agenda passed. A veto proof senate. Especially, if there is a McCain-Palin victory.

HILLARY 2012

 

Comment by memi | 2008-09-05 20:20:14

hannah

are you sure you didn’t watch the above tapes of Sarah bashing HIllary and calling Hill a “whiner”?

How does it feel now that Ms Alaksa is being abused by the Obamabots? She should apologize or at least acknowledge what she’s been through!

Palin is not feminist! She’s there for herself and pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Hell with Unniversal Helath care for other people’s kids. Great me-me-ness just like the moron Obama!

this Election: Vote 3rd Party if not in red state.

No real choice - Palin is a Maggie Thatcher of the Repugnants!
Obama is a fool

No real choice this election! Don’t be fooled!

Lots of repub/obambi Trolls on this site! incredible!

 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-05 13:14:45

It strikes me that there is a hidden agenda here, and that is to set two women against each other so some men can yell “Catfight! All these women can do, get out their claws!”

If that Mack Daddy (a perfect description, thanks Pastor Manning) Obabywhine is going to pimp Hillary, I hope she can turn it against him by:
1. Going against McCain and ignoring Palin.
2. Talk about issues only, in a general way.
3. Avoid mentioning the big 0 by name and talk about the “Democratic Ideals” or something like that that cuts him out of the reflected glory.
4. Keep wearing orange!

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:47:37

That would be the PEFECT stratgey!!!

I like how you think.

;)

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:49:33

perfect strategy

 
 

Comment by Annie Oakley | 2008-09-05 14:03:05

Spot on. There is no need to send a woman to fight another woman. Obama and Biden should be able to do it on their own. All they have to do is avoid patting her on her pretty little head and pretending she’s just a beauty queen. If they stick to the issues, they shouldn’t suddenly need Hillary. They’d rather get a catfight going. It is as absurd as if John McCain had to get an AA surrogate to take on Obama.

Comment by Jane from Tx | 2008-09-05 19:56:25

Annie Oakley - ha ha that is so funny, never thought of that

 
 

Comment by Jane from Tx | 2008-09-05 19:54:44

mmmm! I like it too! very well said!

 
 

Comment by puma smells Trolls | 2008-09-05 20:04:57

WHY DON’T WE GET RID OF THESE NOXIOUS TROLLS ON THIS SITE!

REPUBLIBOTS AND OBAMABOTS are having a heyday

CLEAN OUT THE TROLLS!!!!
larry get rid of these intrusions.

 
 
 

Comment by Stacy The Republican | 2008-09-05 11:12:20

Okay, that was the first time I’ve seen the “Hillary Whine” clip. I believe Palin is right with her statement. As women we have to often bury that instinct in order to accomplish the greater good. Many ‘o many times I have swallowed hard to not break out in tears. I do not allow myself to use that natural instinct of nagging my husband to get things done. I play the game in a manner that brings me a better outcome.

Palin obviously didn’t mean it as an insult.

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-09-05 11:23:30

I don’t think she meant it as an insult, however, she also said it as someone who had not experienced what Hillary was going through. Now she has, and she has a whole party to stand up for her, something Hillary never had. So how would she fare without the support of her party with the media onslaught she has been recieving? We don’t know, but I can guess she is rethinking her statement now that she has an idea of the unbelievable pressure Hillary faced.

I think we have all swallowed hard not to break into tears and I’m not sure what nagging a husband has to do with the conversation, but o.k. Hillary is a Pioneer and a pioneer makes it experiences and deals with difficulties so all who come after have it easier. So let’s pay that the respect it is due, instead of trying to pretend Hillary “whined” over an office fight.

Comment by Stacy The Republican | 2008-09-05 11:27:03

It was in regards to that instinctual emotional side of ours. Akin to a male sex drive I suppose.

And I do agree with your opinion in regards to the timing of the video and party support. Being that two of the DNC powers are women, you would think they would have approached the situation differently.

 

Comment by LogicallySpeaking | 2008-09-05 11:43:32

Thank You beverly. In this particular video Palin was wrong.

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:11:47

Yep, dead wrong and condescending! Her other videos answers were pretty good and this is coming from someone who doesn’t support her.

 

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:51:39

I agree, she was wrong.

I’m not going to get caught up in the hype and not speak the truth.

Comment by thenana2 | 2008-09-05 14:55:56

The question should be why is Obama sending out women to attack Palin? Can’t he fight his own battles? What is wrong with Biden? It is their damn problem.

 
 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-05 12:31:39

Some democrat men did try to stand up for Hillary, but the howling mob came after them screaming RACIST. It was so bizarre that it shut down the Hillary defense forces.

Palin’s defenders benefit from the fact that the American people have had long enough to reflect on the stupidity of the claim that Bill Clinton is a racist. Now when Obama supporters scream RACIST at every criticism folks roll their eyes.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-05 13:56:17

Exactly.

The racist charges stung when they were first launched, deep down, we knew that Bill wasn’t a racist, but the charge came as such a shock, we had to step back for a minute, and ask ourselves, “Were we wrong about Bill?”
But the dust settled, we saw his work in Africa, we already knew about his work in African-American communities, and we finally saw how low-down Obama was.

The people defending Palin really do benefit from the fact that the American public is hip to Obama’s game, and we aren’t going to fall for that anymore.

 
 

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-05 12:34:45

Thank you for your comments. I hope Palin learned her lesson with the sexism she received these past few days, and not to take a haughty air with the struggles and attacks Hillary received during her campaign.

Hillary ‘12!!!

Comment by wry | 2008-09-05 13:01:54

I am SURE Sarah Palin would never have said that today. Western women have always been shielded somewhat from the entrenched eastern sexism.

I am sure Ms. Palin’s eyes were opened, BIG TIME.

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:19:53

I am not sure because I don’t know Sarah Palin. I suspect she wouldn’t even if it is just political, because I do believe that she has good political instincts (that’s a compliment, I love politics and admire good politicians, no matter what political stripe).

Like I did with Obama, I want to know more about Palin. I hate this “fresh face bursting on the national scene” line - that signals to me that the Parties don’t want a messy paper trail and just want to snowball the voters. That said, I am not saying that Palin cannot be up for the job, just that I know almost nothing about her, except, the issues she purports are mostly antithetical to mine.

 
 
 

Comment by Yo | 2008-09-05 12:43:30

I agree with you Beverly.

 
 

Comment by NoTrollZone | 2008-09-05 11:54:04

Clip is rather stupid. Why isn’t the commment from Hillary included in the clip? Why just begin with Palin’s comment without letting us know what the hell she’s even responding to.

Palin does say “perceived whine” so I’ll give her credit for that.

Voting mcCain. Not thrilled about it. But very thrilled to see Barry get what’s coming to him.

Nobama.

Comment by Fuck you Barack Obama! | 2008-09-05 12:34:49

Voting mcCain. Not thrilled about it. But very thrilled to see Barry get what’s coming to him.

That describes most PUMAs I know.

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-05 12:36:13

Just think of the vote as an anti-Obama vote, not one for McCain/Palin. It lessens the pain.

Hillary ‘12!!!

 

Comment by wry | 2008-09-05 12:40:34

Yup, this just about sums it up. I’d vote for Pat Buchanan before Barky.

 
 

Comment by Jane from Tx | 2008-09-05 20:01:27

Yeh, voting McCain and not thrilled about it, but I do believe that any vote for another candidate is a vote for Obarksalot

 
 

Comment by voterinexile | 2008-09-05 12:27:31

I like Sarah very much, she really boosted the Republican brand - overnight I might add.

The Perceived Whine - is part of the problem. Keyword: Perceived.

My PERCEPTION of how Hillary ran her campaign and indeed all of her campaigns is that she continually RISES ABOVE THE FRAY - almost to the point of absurdity.

I recall her calling out the media for their sexism/misogyny ONCE - maybe TWICE. And, that was only after months upon months of bruising abuse at the hands of the media and her own party.

The question itself shows bias. We need to be more vigilant about how issues, particularly women’s issues that affect us, are “framed”.

Sarah Palin is a very likable new politician. She may well be our next President. However, her rise is due in part to the direct “slipstream” effect of Hillary’s primary race. (It reminds me of how Jason Lezak managed to pull off that win in the men’s swimming relay race in Beijing.)

Hillary may never live down her role as ’scapegoat’ where both parties, male and female feel justified in dumping on her no matter how small the slight.

She may never run for office again, if she feels supplanted by her younger Republican counterpart who has in 6 short days achieved iconic status without the so-called high negatives.

But she will go down in history as the first woman to win primary races - and the first person to receive the most votes of any politician ever.

She has paved the way for Sarah - in short order.

And, you know it took a few years for the Williams sisters to credit Billie Jean King for her groundbreaking work to boost women’s tennis.

SP could stand to drop the “Yes, she did whine” from her repertoire.

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-05 12:51:45

You all are forgetting a very important fact:

That Palin’s remark is based entirely on the msm perception that Hillary whined. The msm called Hillary a whiner and they called us that as well.

Hillary commented I think once about the coverage being slanted. Her supporters protested the msm overt bias and we were all labeled as such.

I refuse to wear that label. I have every right to point out media bias. For example, I never cared that they asked Hillary tough questions, I only cared that they NEVER asked 0bama any.

To date, no one in the media has asked 0bama tough questions about his lie that Ayers was “just a guy in his neighborhood” and call him on his involvement with the Annenburg Challenge and his work with Ayers.

Now that’s media bias and no one can call me a whiner for pointing that out.

And that’s just one example.

Palin’s comments are colored by the media’s perception. I bet if the McCain allowed her to respond to that question now after having experienced what she did, she would answer differently.

0bama is in this predicament because he didn’t demand an end to media sexism. He could have warned the media to lay off the sexism and only deal with the issues. He said nothing because he was enjoying and exploiting the Hillary bashing.

Hence, he’s in the situation he finds himself in today. And I don’t feel sorry for him.

And the media is in this situation because they continue not to play fair.

If they start asking 0bama hard questions, I can’t complain about them asking Sarah ones too.

All we want is fairness.

But the msm is determined to get 0bama elected.

Which is why I no longer watch them. They have zer0 credibility.

 
 

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-09-05 12:37:47

Stacy, I don’t think Sarah meant to demean or insult Hillary.

This is a frequent opinion (I used to hold too), that women should swallow their just dissapointment and go on for the larger good.

This is the opinion that keeps abused women silent in their marriage, for the larger good of the family.

This is a myth that the abusers want us to sign up for, so they can continue the abuse.

Our society has learned not to discriminate against blacks.

If Sarah would suggest, that blacks should take the discrimination, because it is a given in our society, everybody would find it offensive.

If you ever have a doubt about a statement, if it is discriminatory or not, just replace the subjects with other kind of subjects - and you see it rightaway.

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:31:54

I have no idea has to what Palin meant (I certainly don’t want to see What Palin Really Meant excuses like we did with Obama). I do think that her answer was condescending and ill advised and yes, an unwarranted criticism of Hillary.

 
 

Comment by paul_lukasiak | 2008-09-05 13:38:12

absolutely — and the faux-feminist Oborg are trying to play it up as Palin insulting Clinton.

Unspoken by Palin is the assumption that women in genderal would speak out about Clinton’s treatment — but its obvious that Oborg and media women themselves were perfectly happy to participate in sexist slams of Clinton.

 
 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-09-05 11:13:49

Is it true on today’s Tom Joyner show they called Sarah Palin a “crazy white bitch”?

Can anyone confirm this?

Comment by Sugar | 2008-09-05 11:19:56

I heard “Crazy white woman”. I didn’t hear “crazy white bitch”. They have been particularly vile towards her though. I thought about calling them up, but it would go in one ear and right out the other.

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-09-05 11:25:22

Thanks, Sugar, for your response. The attacks on women, and in this case white women, are completely disturbing to me!

I can’t believe it!! What the hell is going on?

Comment by alexei | 2008-09-05 13:34:50

Sexist attacks are still quite acceptable. Don’t see any of those type of “statements” about Huckabee, etal.

 
 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-09-05 11:43:29

So Palin is a “Crazy white woman”?

Then, what pray tell is MEchelle?

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-09-05 11:53:01

well…. according to Rev Manning, MO is KK’s little sister…

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-09-05 12:11:19

Yes, but that is not an attack