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Why Some So-Called Progressives Don’t Get It?

You can not script this madness. There are many on the extreme left of the political spectrum–the Barack Obama, Tom Hayden, Nancy Pelosi side of the ledger–who hate the Clintons for moving the Democratic party towards the positions of the Democratic Leadership Council. Let’s face it, if Bill Clinton had kept his pecker in his pants he would have gone down in history as arguably one of the great Presidents of the 20th Century. Balanced budgets and prosperity leave a good taste in peoples’ mouths.

Now the Democrats under the “leadership” of Howard Dean and Barack Obama appear poised to commit suicide. Deepak Chopra put up a piece at Huffington Post that is mind numbing in the ignorance and bigotry it portrays. Despite Chopra’s prejudice, most Americans are not coastal elitists who imagine themselves to be “world citizens.” Don’t these Democrats realize they need to win votes in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, West Virginia, Indiana, and Kentucky? Chopra writes:

I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision.

Look at what she stands for:

–Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.

–Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.

–Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded.

–Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.

–Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.

–”Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.

These clowns are playing into the hands of the Republicans. Keep telling them they are small minded, God and gun loving bigots who wave the flag too much and they will kick your ass. Is the far left really this crazy?

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Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-09-07 15:01:47

I still can’t believe he did not choose Hillary for his VP.

That was the finishing blow to his chances.

What an arrogant fool.

Comment by Marigat | 2008-09-07 15:04:59

Comment by Denise | 2008-09-07 15:14:46

Has anyone noticed how much David Axelrod resemble a decendant of Hitler. Do you think he goes out of his way to appear this way?

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-07 15:26:28

AND MOLAND SPRINGS’ STOCK WILL RISE

HIGHER AND HIGHER!

Comment by Pink Panther | 2008-09-07 16:31:20

I have a vision of David Axelrod saying this for some reason.

 
 

Comment by No Obama for me | 2008-09-07 18:43:24

Yes David Axelrod looks exactly like Hitler.

Scary, Isn’t that????

Comment by red_sleeves | 2008-09-07 23:13:48

Mr. Axelrod is of Jewish descent. His father fled from eastern Europe to the US.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2008-09-07 15:06:05

Here’s the point against Hillary as his VP: Why should she be associated with his Chicago Style politics? He should have taken her offer to be HER VP.

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-07 15:16:56

Yep, he is such a dumbass. He could have had 8 years as VP and 4 or 8 as POTUS, but he couldn’t learn from a woman. What an idiot.

Comment by Felix Rodriguez | 2008-09-07 15:44:48

Yep. Amen. Over and out.

As someone greater than I once said…

“Pride comes before the fall.”

 
 

Comment by LilRod | 2008-09-07 15:37:53

Yepper..why should Hillary be in second position, when clearly she is shoulders above all of the candidates on both tickets?? NOT

Hillary 2012

Comment by realist | 2008-09-07 17:20:03

By the way, what are Hillary’s major accomplishments in the Senate?

Comment by Steven Mather | 2008-09-07 17:24:48

 
 
 

Comment by Firefly | 2008-09-07 15:38:00

Actually, I think if Hillary been on the top of the ticket and had picked barky as VP, with all the dirt the republicans have on him the whole ticket would have been doomed.

I think Hill saw that writing on the wall and just did the best thing - stepped away to let bambi and the dems self-destruct on their own.

And now she’s showing what she has to as far as support for O, but only because he’s got a D after his name. Her real support is for down-ticket dems, which will have a great payback for her (and for a reformed democratic party and for democracy) in the long run.

Comment by Felix Rodriguez | 2008-09-07 15:49:43

We are seeing history being written. History will not remember a neo-marxist. However, it will remember a movement that was initiated by one woman…

Her name was Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Wait 20 years and see the results. Bozo is a footnote. HRC started a movement that purged the left of “isms” and galvanized the right for 4 years until the healthy left took over once more.

Comment by Lochos Vestu | 2008-09-07 16:30:08

Expect it to include “U.S. President” as one of her achievements.

Hillary ‘12!!!

 
 

Comment by norrismorris | 2008-09-07 18:20:23

The Democratic Party must be reformed.

Pelosi,Reid and Dean have allowed this election to self destruct, and this smarmy shortsightedness only allows us to see that despite their terrible record of performance, the GOP has shown more solidarity and smarts
regarding this election.

The Pelosi/Dean scenario will ultimately become a Greek tragedy.

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 18:24:20

Yeah, Sisyphus pushing the Barack up the hill.

 
 
 
 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-07 15:39:16

I’m curious as to the story on this…do you think that she turned him down back in June? I want to give BO some kind of credit, because what kind of moronic candidate would turn his back on energizing the ticket with his competitor who got as many votes as he did?

Biden seems like such a dull choice - a decent guy, smart, but definitely second tier - I’m wondering if a lot of people turned him down.

If nothing else, you would think that there is somebody in the Dem ‘leadership’ who would have said ’she’s on the ticket or else’ if she was interested. Outside of the Clinton side of the party, they are a dumb lot though.

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 16:55:54

That’s still my guess.

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-09-07 17:47:32

she called his bluff.

I don’t want to be vetted unless you are serious about considering me.

He was never serious. She forced him to answer. End of story. He truly is that stupid to diss one half of the party.

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 17:54:04

And am I ever glad. She doesn’t need to be saddled with that empty suit and luggage.

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-07 20:43:01

Didn’t practically everyone he wanted turn him down for the VP slot? And he couldn’t give the nod to one of his woman sychophants like Sebelius or McCaskill. And Hagel ran from him like a scalded dog after the crash course foreign policy junket that he accompanied him on.

Biden, I’m sure was forced on him after they realized he couldn’t fake foreign policy expertise/experience any longer.

Don’t delude yourself and give 0bama credit. He’s supposed to be this great leader, the One and yet he couldn’t figure out that the best course was to ask Hillary to be on his ticket so as to unify the disaffected voters. The truth is 0bama feels he can win without us. And wants no part of the base. He wants the older voters to die and the women to “get over it.” Nothing will convince 0bama and his progressive ilk that they are wrong.

I’m a bit shocked at Chopra. Like it or not, even Chopra is keyed into the fact that 0bama’s skin color is closer to his. Does 0bama meditate? Did Chopra really ignore the kind of church that 0bama sat in for 20 years? And yet Chopra sees 0bama as some kind of transcendent leader.

As a someone who has practised meditation/yoga for more than 2 decades, I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in Chopra. He joins my now long list of people I no longer respect. As someone who has actually been up close to people who have made it their life’s work to become one with God, I can tell you that 0bama shows none of these characteristics. I also think that Chopra’s remarks indicate that he’s fallen off his own spiritual path in which the goal of the Seeker is to see God in everyone and thereby become One with God.

People who strive to walk this path learn to accept that although you may not share the same ideological beliefs of people like Palin for example, you come to respect everyone as God’s children. I know meditation has helped me to respect the rights of others to be who they are in ways that I once would never have. I also have the serenity to accept that which I cannot change. And no, I don’t always succeed in this. But I’ve not set myself up as a book-writing, seminar-giving, money-making guru trying to lead the way. It’s insulting that Chopra actually thinks the people he’s described do not have an entitlement to the life they choose. That he has become that which he claims to despise in them, wanting to remake them in his own image. And worse, Chopra clearly looks down on these people. They are standing in the way of the world becoming transcendent. Society would be perfect if it was not for them.

Oh yeah, and 0bama epitomizes such lofty possibilities. Is that why he bused in thugs to lie and cheat the Caucuses? Is that how yogis behave? Is that the way of the monk? The ascetic? Wouldn’t someone of such high ideals be at the forefront of reaching for harmony and unity? Is that why 0bama turned away from the most obvious way to achieve that: putting Hillary on the ticket?

Sorry, Deepak, 0bama is neither transcedent or a good leader. He is just the same color as you. And as a person of color, I get it, it’s frustrating that whites dominate our politics and sure that needs to change. But let’s get real. You don’t accomplish that with a candidate that has inspires such antipathy because of his very actions. Then accuse everyone else for being as being the problem.

It’s too bad that New Age Guru Deepak Chopra, a seeker of Universal truth who has strived to share his spiritual awakenings and serve as a teacher to willing students has exposed that he is ignorant of this spiritual knowledge:

“People can only embrace truth in proportion to their readiness to accept it.”

The wise man knows this and sees God everywhere instead.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-08 00:31:38

good comment; clearly mr. chopra went off the rails with his obama = messiah, palin = satan tripe. this is why so many people are getting disgusted with the obamacrats. mccain will win in nov. and hillary will be vindicated.

 

Comment by Peniel | 2008-09-08 02:27:46

mimi

I agree. It is sad that Chopra has lost his humility and inner guidance because therein he closed his own open channel to discern truth. Now, apparently he’s speaking from his head and ego.

RE your comments about Obama: There’s a fable entitled “The Jackal” in the ancient Sanskrit that says this as its moral:

Whatever the natural propensity it will be hard to overcome. For if a dog were made king, would he not still gnaw at his shoe straps?

I don’t care how they try to remake Obama’s image for more palatable consumption by the American electorate, he is who he is. And in this election cycle, his true colors shined through!

That’s why I will not vote for this man.

I can’t betray my own inner guidance that believes in truth, honor, a sense of fairness and justice … just to be a “good” Democrat!
— peniel

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-08 09:06:18

Peniel,

Thank you for the Sanskrit adage. How true, how very true!

 
 

Comment by Nancy | 2008-09-08 03:49:07

And who appointed you the ‘one’ to pass judgement on these people? Can I quote you on your many astute remarks?
what a load of you know what. Why don’t you visit Sara in Anchorage….the two of you are birds of a feather.

 
 
 

Comment by OBSP | 2008-09-07 16:07:05

I am so happy he did not choose her! She could not associae herself with this failed canidate. I wrote ealier that people I know in OB land said the only way she would be in his administration is if she agreed to report to Michele.
And again look inside the polls, as BO campaign says they don’t include cell phones they also do not include the so called Bradley effect.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-09-07 16:14:51

Not taking the matching funds was stupid as well ….

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-07 19:02:48

Yep…the Maverick (TM) gets a big fat check for several tens of millions of $$ in matching funds and BO has to waste time at Jon Bon Jovi’s cocktail party to collect a few million. Time he could of spent with his debate coach.

 
 

Comment by Diana | 2008-09-07 16:26:39

He would have never chosen Hillary, she would never have towed the line for him or anyone else. She has never cowered/nor would she ever to the radical groups that try to infilltrate the parties. Not only would she have taken the glory right out from under him, the same glory he uses to feed his ego. She would have outshined him a million to one. There would have been too many regrets as to why she wasn’t at the top of the ticket where she belonged. As his ratings went down, hers would have climbed. Have you seen the way McCain stands behind Sarah beaming like a proud peacock? Do you think for one second Obama could have done that with Hillary. He would have made it into and throughout their presidency as a Me against Her. She belongs as POTUS, not VP. You see what they’re saying about McCain, they’d just add age discrimination on top of everything else against her in 2016.

Hey! Look at this!!

Clinton turns down hatchet job September 08, 2008
HILLARY Clinton may be the most obvious choice to throw into the ring against the new darling of American politics, Sarah Palin, but the failed Democratic presidential candidate is refusing the job.

“We’re not going to be anybody’s attack dog against Sarah Palin,” a Clinton insider said yesterday.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24308598-5013948,00.html

IN YOUR FACE SENATOR OBAMA!!

Comment by Pink Panther | 2008-09-07 16:37:17

The article states:

“It is a rationale that will fuel the belief - lingering among Democrats since Al Gore’s failed 2000 presidential run - that the Clintons always put themselves before their party.”

The Clintons have ethics and integrity and the Obama Democratic Party has neither.

Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism, and the Glass Ceiling for Women

Comment by Diana | 2008-09-07 16:44:14

Exactly and that first paragraph is all I needed to read. It debunks all the crap we’ve been hearing for the past week that Hillary is going to be BO’s attack dog against Hillary. The rest of it is just MSM talking points trying to humiliate Hillary into doing their bidding. She’s done with that nonsense. She knows where we stand and what we believe. We didn’t buy into that crap when they tried to sell it to us in the primaries. We’re not going to start now.

Comment by Diana | 2008-09-07 16:44:52

against Sarah sorry about that, too quick on the add comment.

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-07 21:10:10

What kind of hypocrite would she looked like if she participated in attacking Palin after what’s been done to her?

First, it’s already been proven that attacking Palin this way won’t work. What did they accomplish last week except higher ratings for the Republican Convention and Palin and McCain’s speeches. It’s backfiring.

Frankly, having Hillary campaign at all is a bad idea. It’s only going to remind people of the following:

She should be the nominee.
She should be the VP nominee since she’s not the nominee.
Why didn’t he make her the nominee?
McCain chose a woman, is Barack really sexist?
0bama really isn’t as smart as he thinks he is or as smart as people say he is.

Let Hilllary campaign for down-ticket Dems since you’re not doing it.

Haul your own ass across the finish line. You want it. Win your own damn race!

 

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-08 00:49:32

i think he meant that the Clintons put their COUNTRY before their party.

 
 

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-07 22:49:56

There were several things said in the above referenced article I was not happy with. Here’s just one though. The article makes a statement that because Hillary is already 60 years of age that she may not have another opportunity to run for President. WHY NOT? After all she has been through with the bias, misogny and sexism thrown at her in the last year are we to now add ageism to what will be thrown at her. At 64, at 68, at 72 years young, this woman will still have what it takes to get the job done!!

In 2008 ageism is almost as bad as sexism.

 

Comment by Nancy | 2008-09-08 03:51:24

you neglected to add the comment from the obama campaign. ‘in all fairness, the obama campaign NEVER asked her to be his attack dog on Palin.’ so there…and she won’t be, she’s thinking of other things, far down the line, and you can bet on that.

 
 

Comment by No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo | 2008-09-07 18:24:45

I still can’t believe he did not choose Hillary for his VP.

That was the finishing blow to his chances.

What an arrogant fool.

Because he’s vindictive and childish–to his own detriment, and if he becomes POTUS, to our detriment. Let’s hope the power he’s manufactured for himself isn’t actually given to him Nov. 4.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 20:34:10

That’s funny about Deepok Chopra, because I had a list of definite signs of fascism that I recognize from Obama:

Election fraud - gaming the caucuses, encouraging crossover voting in open primaries, throwing out the votes of Michigan and Florida and openly bribing superdelegates through his PACs.

Rampant sexism against both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin

Disdain for human rights - BAIPA, supporting capital punishment

Religion and government are intertwined - faith-based intitiatives

Corporate power is protected - FISA comes immediately to mind

 

Comment by old91A10 | 2008-09-07 22:13:17

As opposed to designated hitter?

 

Comment by Nancy | 2008-09-08 00:47:10

Get over it - you have no proof whatsoever that by selecting Hillary he would have a better chance at becoming president. the primaries are NOT the general election, what works there does not work the same in the GE. nor do you have proof that hillary would beat mcCain in Nov.
seriously, you all have a head problem. if what you want (what Chopra correctly describes) is a hockey mom, and a very snarky one at that, then that is what you will get. and with that comes four more years of the last eight - not so good. it really doesn’t pay to let your bitterness and hate get the better of you. Obama will not bring about the horror you imagine, you can bet on it.

Comment by Ron | 2008-09-08 08:55:39

Obama is not going to win. End of story. The left always loses in the general election, and for good reason.

Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Move-0n - all need to go and the DNC MUST be reformed to reflect middle American views and give us middle America candidates.

 
 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-07 15:03:40

Wow, this is incredibly biased and ignorant.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-07 17:17:02

Obama = messiah, anybody else = Satan. that’s pretty much been the message of the obamacrats since day 1.

 
 

Comment by Kelley | 2008-09-07 15:03:40

He is only rehashing what MSM has been saying for months.

If you dont’ vote for Obama you’re
a racist
unenlightened
stupid

I guess he does add new insult
evil

The truth is he is projecting his fears of a woman having such power.

I stopped listening to him years ago. He’s a windbag.

Comment by Felix Rodriguez | 2008-09-07 15:25:09

Windbag? He’s irrelevant. He -like Oprah- should stick to meta-physics and “feel-good” messages. One more idiot I will never listen to again. The moment you cross the line and go into politics you cross the line and open yourself to attack. Metaphysics and feel-good messages are not meant to convert followers to fascism or marxism or any other frikking “ISM”. I’m so over Hollywood I may never watch another movie or tv-show again unless it stars Angelina Jolie’s father.

Comment by Peniel | 2008-09-07 16:15:20

Felix
I hope you’re not saying that everyone into alternative spirituality is like Oprah or Chopra???

I’m deeply involved in metaphysical teachings - but I think Chopra’s fame went to his head a long time ago. He’s now speaking from ego not enlightenment. And, he sure doesn’t speak any truth I hold dear!

Folks, let’s not become one of them (Obots) by using sweeping generalizations and Hitler comments. That lingo doesn’t serve us.

Here are some truths that I do hold:

1) Hillary won - and my research proved it!
2) Barack was aided from the get-go by a PC DNC and by a swooning MSM that has never revealed the truth about some of his shadier dealings
3) Obama is not qualified to be POTUS. He simply doesn’t have the experience.
4) Sarah Palin doesn’t hold many of my beliefs. But she is more experienced than Obama. And, she/McCain will have a Dem controlled Congress to deal with so they can’t push any social agenda they want to … that’s why we have checks and balances built into our system.
5) Soon enough, voters will have their say and I don’t think they’re as stupid, and God/gun clinging as the present far-left of the Dem Party believes.
6) Beyond any other goal: HILLARY 2012!!!
7) If Obama is elected, then Hillary 2012 will not happen … because she’s too loyal a Democrat to run against him. And, truth told, by 2016, her chances of being elected POTUS will be greatly diminished.
8) Since the ultimate goal is Hillary 2012, and it will not happen if Obama is elected in 2008, then vote MAC/Palin.

Lastly, as I said above, Palin does not hold many of my more socially liberal beliefs … but I could NEVER vote for someone that I believe is basically dishonest at his/her core. And, seeing what I have seen of Obama’s campaign tactics in this election cycle, I simply can not condone that and blindly support it by giving that man my vote!

There has to be a certain moral line that should never be crossed even in politics. Obama and his campaign have crossed it - many times and in a multitude of ways.

Thus, at a basic level - when I search my heart, mind and soul … I just can not give that man my vote!

And, honestly that grieves me because as an ardent Democrat, I feel like my Party has deserted me. I bloody well refuse to stay home. And, I do choose to vote Mac/Palin because I believe it gives a very loud clear message to my Party that they best get their shit together … or I’ll keep on casting protest votes!

WHEN A PARTY DESERTS ITS BASE … IT’S TIME FOR THE BASE TO FIGHT FOR THE SOUL OF THE PARTY!
— peniel cronin

Comment by athy | 2008-09-07 16:27:02

peniel-
excellent post.Thanks.

 

Comment by Ann | 2008-09-07 16:49:52

Here, here!

 

Comment by steel magnolia | 2008-09-07 16:51:40

Absolutely right! Totally agree!

 

Comment by CountryFirst | 2008-09-07 16:52:31

Your comment is powerful and I agree whole heartedly.

It’s astounding to see what information has been requested on Sarah Palin when you go to Wasilla, AK’s web site. It’s unbelievable when we know that the MSM has done practically none of this for BO

It’s laughable that BO has been begun running
against Sarah Palin - even sending an army of lawyers to dig up the dirt.

Comment by Andrew | 2008-09-07 17:33:18

Fantastic comment. I believe that both John McCain and Sarah Palin understand something that Saviour Obama never will— that being President means being President for everyone in the country. And that in turn means holding some partisan instinct in check.

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-07 21:14:17

Peniel,

Read my post above.

But I agree that he’s fallen off his own path. This comment from you is spot on:

“I’m deeply involved in metaphysical teachings - but I think Chopra’s fame went to his head a long time ago. He’s now speaking from ego not enlightenment. And, he sure doesn’t speak any truth I hold dear!”

 

Comment by leo | 2008-09-07 22:43:19

I totally agree with your comment. there are so many Clinton supporters that I know (mostly female) that are going to vote for Obama. and they don’t know the issues, or are informed about anything; all they know is that they voted for Hillary and now they’re voting for Obama. what ignorance. I’m voting for McCain in this election; democratic congress (hopefully they’ll have a spine this time around)and Hillary will run in 2012. that’s my hope. no obama; no dnc, and no democratic win. obama didn’t care about the Hillary supporters, and is just so self-absorbed in his win to the White House. he stole the primary from Hillary Clinton; and that’s not very nice.

 

Comment by Nancy | 2008-09-08 03:43:58

Oh for crying out loud…cut the drama! this is so pathetic. You can ‘prove’ that Hillary won the election. News Flash…she did NOT. Second news flash….the DNC and Howard Dean acted according to the rules, that were written by Hillary’s campaign staff, Harold ickes and Terry McAuliffe. The MSM attacked George Bush as much or more than they have attacked hillary..and, remember, Hillary can take it, right? that’s what she said! She is a fighter. No matter what she or her husband said about Obama, which is now being used by McCain (as we all said it would) in his 527’s to attack the democratic nominee. Why should she care? she can and probably will run in 2012…do you think for one moment Hillary cares about Obama?? ‘Give me a break’ as Bill so aptly said in red-faced bloviating anger.
And Rezko has been investigated, no wrong-doing by Obama. it is only you guys who are so determined to find something corrupt you will dig forever to get at that one missing lie. maybe it isn’t there, okay?
(Let’s see if Bill and Chelsea will be called in to testify in the ongoing trial paul vs clinton - she was excused because she was campaigning-more to come on this).

vote for mccain, you are a republican anyway.

Comment by Peniel | 2008-09-08 12:13:42

Nancy

Well if it’s all so pathetic and you’re so offended by our comments, why don’t you stick to reading the Huffpost and other more suitable blogs for your apparent persuasion?

Who’s forcing you to read our pathetic remarks?

Oh, that’s right. You’re here specifically to insult those who won’t vote for the Obama, no matter their reasons.

Well, news flash for you: it’s a free country, each owns his/her own vote, each is free to cast it according to their own conscience and you don’t have the power to take away our rights … because we won’t give you that power. Restated, you can’t practice your intimidation tactics here because they won’t work!

If you’re so inclined, insult us more. It’ll just provide greater impetus to go beyond voting and really get involved to defeat Obama … so the rightful winner of the 2008 Democratic primaries – Hillary – can run and win in 2012!

 
 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-09-07 16:18:36

There is nothing “feel good” in his message at all.

Hope? Change? He thinks America is a bad, mean place he needs to save … He only smiles when he is in front of a camera or laughing at one of his own lines. He is a walking mess of what we used to call “negative vibrations.”

 
 
 

Comment by ???????? | 2008-09-07 15:04:12

Yes, Larry. They are that crazy. It looks like after McCain wins, y’all can start on Hillary’s 2012 campaign. ;)

Let them do what they do best and show their hypocrisy. What is meant for evil will work out for good.

Godspeed.

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-07 15:07:38

Wow. I am disappointed in Chopra. I used to respect him. I can’t believe he equates small town values with “petty parochialism.”

Guess what? I may live in a big city right now, but I am from….A SMALL TOWN.

What the @#%$@ are these people smoking?

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-07 15:27:56

I hope you’re refering to smoking crack as opposed to weed. Besides being less debilitating than booze, it is also medicinal.

No offense, but I’m getting tired of people knocking the bong, especially since it’s likely the same people bend their elbow now and then. ;-)

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 15:50:49

it also shows a person’s age (imo)

older folks have no clue
younger kids will take advantage of ANYTHING

but my response to Larry’s quote

Is the far left really this crazy?

THEY are as single minded for GLOBAL UNITY

as SOME extreme regressive xenophobics are for closing our borders and returning to the THOUSAND YEAR OLD KOREAN TURTLE KINGDOM

NEITHER is gonna happen but those on the fringes can see NO OTHER place for themselves now that they are hanging out there on the edges like that

both sides SOON slipping off the event horizon
(not soon enough for me Larry)

 
 

Comment by hank | 2008-09-07 15:33:20

“Petty parochialism” ??? I don’t even know what that means! Petty comes from French “petit” which means small. Ok, small towns are small. I would’ve expected something deeper from DEEPak Chopra.

So on to “parochialiism”. Let’s assume he isn’t trying to accuse small-towners of sending their kids to parochial schools or anything strictly related to parishes, and pick the generic definition: “narrowly restricted in scope or outlook.” Well you know, it seems to me that in some respects the kool-aid drinkers are amazingly narrow in their scope and outlook. They don’t allow dissenting opinions on their blog sites, for one thing. There are others, of course, which most folks here know.

Comment by voterinexile | 2008-09-07 16:46:44

security moms - parochial? they’re ALL about caring about how this country defends itself. it’s not as if they don’t get globalization or immigration issues either. all part and parcel of being a world citizen.

chopra like oprah dropped their masks, broke the illusion of their iconic status in pop culture by crossing into politics.

 
 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2008-09-07 16:50:21

What seaboard and big city people need to know about small town America is that it IS petty–BUT JUST AS POLITICS IN BIG CITIES ARE (just not as much money involved). It IS also global. You can’t go to many small towns today without finding immigrants from various countries. (I have a Turkish daughter-in-law living in a small town in Tennessee, and she found another family of Turkish people there.) There are small town people who are into New Age stuff, too.

But small towns are also full of people who, since they all know each other, have to recognize that not everyone thinks the same way on anything, so they tend to find ways to compromise and work together. The elitists who have taken over the party make assumptions about small town people without ever getting out of their “ivory towers,” so to speak, to meet actual small town people. They hang out only with people who have the same points of view.

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 16:58:23

I moved to a small town because of the closeness of the community. I’m done with large metropolitan areas.

Comment by Vince P | 2008-09-07 18:49:26

I read its easier to survive nuclear attack in a small town, is that true?

 
 
 
 

Comment by lorelynn | 2008-09-07 15:07:44

Holy Mother Of Sweet Potatoes! I am a lefty and I know that you must respect other people’s values and cast them in a larger light. You move them into your column by respecting them, their needs and showing them how your initiatives serve them - even when it seems counter-intuitive.

Maybe this is just red meat for the troops knowing that they have already lost the battle - I don’t know. But this is one of the most self-serving, bone-headed pieces I’ve ever read. Fatuous. Stinky. Insincere. Smarmy.

Disgusting.

Comment by artemis | 2008-09-07 16:25:21

verrry reminiscent of “Deep Thought” on SNL

 
 

Comment by MedusaPUMABarracuda | 2008-09-07 15:07:54

Deeprock Charlatan is writing political analysis? Isn’t he a huckster of snake oil?
http://store.chopra.com/showitems.asp?deptcode1=594

And I imagine the Huffies are snorting up his uninformed information like so much koolaid.

Comment by I am Backtrack Oblahblah and approved this message | 2008-09-07 15:11:12

They snort powdered koolaid now? Euwee!

Comment by proudOHmom | 2008-09-07 16:16:02

Yes. similar to their messiah/osama, they snort powders.

 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 15:12:14

Yeah, he and Rielle Hunter have a lot in common. Deepak’s just better at marketing.

Comment by I am Backtrack Oblahblah and approved this message | 2008-09-07 15:15:47

Deepak’s just better at marketing.

You mean was better. He just pissed off for all eternity millions of Americans by sticking his proboscis into the election.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-07 15:19:29

A lot of new age gurus are trying to sell Obama as the “enlightened one” as part of their overall marketing that we are going through this “great shift” to prepare for 2012. It plays into the whole meme of The Secret and this idea that there are a certain number of people in America who are “more enlightened” than the rest.

I kind of feel, actually, that if things are going to shift in 2012 (which I doubt) that it’s fitting that we finish off the Piscean Age with four more years of Republicans, THEN switch to Democrats (i.e., HILLARY) in 2012 to mark the Aquarian Age.

If, er, you believe in that a date is THAT important. :-)

Comment by I am Backtrack Oblahblah and approved this message | 2008-09-07 15:31:44

I kind of feel, actually, that if things are going to shift in 2012 (which I doubt) that it’s fitting that we finish off the Piscean Age with four more years of Republicans, THEN switch to Democrats (i.e., HILLARY) in 2012 to mark the Aquarian Age.

Sounds great. I’ll take that over the Obama-screws-us-up-the-ass age any day! ;)

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 16:13:44

also

12/21/12

another END OF AGES
according to the Maya

well maybe not so fast - lol

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 16:00:09

I’d like Barry a LOT better if he’d admit to believing in Karma!!

at least he MIGHT act humble

and the fact DEEPHOCK would put that OUT THERE means he’s now got his OWN Karma to pay for

we’ll see how much TRUTH comes to light and how DEEP it burns

don’t the TEACHERS get JUDGED more HARSHLY in the end????

I think I read that somewhere

 
 
 
 

Comment by athy | 2008-09-07 16:12:32

MedusaPumaBarracuda-
I suspect Oprah is calling in her chips.
Keep an eye out to see what other ‘new age’ pundits start coming out of the woodworks to support Sen Obama.

It seems that Mr Chopra has come to the conclusion that staying friends with Oprah guarantees a nice continued future income stream for you -no matter what you are selling…

 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 15:09:28

So electing Vlad Putin and Achmadinejad’s candidate would be a brilliant first step toward repairing our reputation abroad?

Actually, I prefer to elect the guy that the Poles and Czechs like. I’m gonna guess that’s McCain.

 

Comment by oy | 2008-09-07 15:09:30

Really? In her speech?

In her speech she did not say a WORD about “family values”, nor about “abortion”. Mr Chopra need a class in basic reading comprehension.

 

Comment by I am Backtrack Oblahblah and approved this message | 2008-09-07 15:09:34

Deepak Chopra should have stuck to sharing the secrets of the universe for profit.

 

Comment by oy | 2008-09-07 15:09:46

Really? In her speech?

In her speech she did not say a WORD about “family values”, nor about “abortion”. Mr Chopra needs a class in basic reading comprehension.

 

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 15:10:15

“Democrats under the leadership of Howard Dean and Obama appear poised to commit suicide.” If only we could be so lucky. The world would be better for it, and I think I remember saying that about the other dumbass that now occupies the oval office.

Comment by Disguested with Obama | 2008-09-07 15:42:10

I was going to vote for Hillary and then all democrate for the rest of the ticket. Then after what happen with the DNC; I decided to vote for McCain and democrats for the rest of the ticket;but the Obama/DNC/Democrats/Media have just really disgusted me with the way they treated Palin; that now I’m voting Republican all the way.

I wonder how many other’s will be doing the same thing?

Comment by Bell'Artista | 2008-09-07 15:45:01

I am voting straight Republican, too now that I see my downticket Dems are now koolaid drinkers.
Throw all the tainted bums O U T!