Obama, Florida, Disenfranchisement and Quicksand
By Truthteller on September 14, 2008 at 4:00 AM in Barack Obama, DNC, DNC idiocy, Disenfranchisement, Florida
If Obama’s fall in poll after poll is one we liken to an erosion, we are obliged to describe the following situation in Florida as Obama’s vain attempt to plug a patch of quicksand with bags of Rezko cash. I quote the St. Petersburg Times:
Barack Obama could be on the verge of falling out of contention in Florida.
Despite spending an estimated $8-million on campaign ads in America’s biggest battleground state and putting in place the largest Democratic campaign organization ever in Florida, Obama has lost ground over the summer. Florida has moved from a toss-up state to one that clearly leans toward John McCain, fueling speculation about how much longer the Democratic nominee will continue investing so heavily in the state.
Obama can still win Florida despite the polling gains McCain has made since naming Sarah Palin his running mate, and there is no sign Obama is pulling back in Florida yet. Far from it. Obama allies say he has about 350 paid staffers in the state and about 50 field offices, including in places not known as fertile ground for Democrats, such as Sun City Center, Lake City and Sebring.
But for all the attention to Florida from the Obama campaign, there’s little tangible evidence it’s paying off.
He is farther behind in the state than John Kerry was at this point in 2004, even though McCain began buying Florida TV ads only last week. By this time in 2004, the Bush-Cheney campaign had spent $13-million on Florida TV. In the rolling average of Florida polls compiled by the Web site RealClearPolitics.com, Obama has never taken the lead over McCain in Florida, and the latest average shows him behind by 5 percentage points. They were tied in early August.
Florida, in other words, will not respond to Obama’s various entreaties. And for good reason, I might add. For it was Obama, his many surrogates and the corrupt and venal DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee who disenfranchised Florida Democrats during the Democratic primary. Deb Cupples, No Quarter’s resident expert on Florida politics, described the Obama campaign’s coordinated attempts to debar the full inclusion of Florida’s delegates in the Democratic convention as a “‘Unity’ Shuck and Jive,” a “shuck and jive” that will now have electoral effects.
Allow me to direct our attention to the following data gleaned from Insider Advantage’s poll of Florida voters earlier this week:
| POLITICAL PARTY | McCain | Obama |
| Democrat | 24% | 67% |
| Republican | 85% | 11% |
| Independent | 37% | 43% |
Rasmussen Reports offers similar data.
| POLITICAL PARTY | McCain | Obama |
| Democrat | 18% | 79% |
| Republican | 90% | 9% |
| Independent | 37% | 54% |
Obama did not desire unity in May, and Florida Democrats will reciprocate by denying him unity and a Florida victory in November. He can sink millions of dollars of cash from Rezko and other questionable sources in Florida all he wants; he can build 2,000 offices and airdrop 5,000,000 staffers into the state: Florida will simply absorb these resources, for Obama, his surrogates and the DNC agitated that state’s treacherous electoral quicksand. And those who step in quicksand will experience a downward slide.
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First poster again! :- )
P.S. Good news, btw.
Florida will be going to McCain in November.
This woman will help make sure of that:
Palin campaigning in Carson City, Nevada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp9ozv5u7p4
Thanks for passing that on.
Palin is very good at rallies/ stump speeches. Very impressive.
the video keeps stalling…
She is on fire! Wow.
Anyone notice Sarah does the same thing Hillary used to do, she starts off her speech saying something about the town that she is in. Also she says “Thank you” as much as Obama says “uhhh uhhh uhhh”
Yeap, yeap, yeap.
OT:
Willie Brown in SFGate talks about the Palin effect etc. But the interesting bit is in the end:
“Right now, the best shot Obama has of winning is to get out and register 12 million or so unregistered blacks, especially in the South. But he has got to do it without anyone noticing.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/14/BAU112SFSU.DTL&type=politics
Yesterday there was an article in NO Q about Michelle http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/13/michelle-obamas-priorities/
Could it be this is what the O Team is up to? Going under the radar? Or at least trying to do so? I think this is something to pay attention to. I know the MSM won’t.
if i may opine, i firmly believe that michelle obama is the driving - and conniving - force behind ‘barko the candidate’. i swear she gives me the creeps…
Oh, absolutely agreed! In my view Obama is almost like the front man for Michelle. That is exactly why the taps should be kept on her to see where the boat turns.
I don’t believe the O team is keeling over this easy and the debacle that is unfolding in the media makes me suspicious. This hobble-gobble that Obama is spewing is just silly. Hence, I believe they are regrouping and taking the ‘real’ fight out of the limelight. Or so they try.
I certainly agree. Remember that Bob Novak (extreme conservative, it’s true, but who reports only what he thinks is true) reported that it was impossible that Hillary could be chosen as VP MONTHS before the end of the primary, because Michelle HATES her.
I think they will focus Meshell on things like churches (black to rally flagging support with blacks who don’t support black theology) This will keep her away from whites, where she has a problem by showing her hatred and contempt.
How Obama lost the election
By Spengler
Why didn’t Obama choose Hillary? The most credible explanation came from veteran columnist Robert Novak May 10, who reports that Michelle Obama vetoed Hillary’s candidacy. “The Democratic front-runner’s wife did not comment on other rival candidates for the party’s nomination, but she has been sniping at Clinton since last summer. According to Obama sources, those public utterances do not reveal the extent of her hostility,” Novak wrote. If that is true, then Obama succumbed to the character weakness I described in a February 26 profile of (Obama’s women reveal his secret). His peculiar dependency on an assertive and often rancorous spouse, I argued, made him vulnerable, and predicted that Obama “will destroy himself before he destroys the country” (Good)
In my February 26 profile, I called Obama “the political equivalent of a sociopath”, without any derogatory intent. A sociopath seeks the empathy of all around him while empathizing with no one. Obama has an almost magical ability to gain the confidence of those around him. Perhaps it was the adaptation of a bright and sensitive young boy who was abandoned by three parents - his Kenyan father Barack Obama Sr, who left his pregnant young bride; his Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetero; and by his mother, Ann Dunham, who sent 10-year-old Obama to live with her parents while she pursued her career as an anthropologist.
Combine a child’s response to serial abandonment with the perspective of an outsider, and Obama became an alien species against which American politics had no natural defenses. He is a Third World anthropologist profiling Americans, in but not of the American system. No country’s politics depends more openly on friendships than America’s, yet Obama has not a single real friend, for he rose so fast that all his acquaintances become rungs on the ladder of his ascent. One human relationship crowds the others out of his life, his marriage to Michelle, a strong, assertive and very angry woman.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
The lady doth protest too little
By Spengler
Michelle Obama’s negatives in opinion polls are the worst ever registered for a candidate’s wife, deep enough, perhaps, to turn the election against Barack.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JH27Aa02.html
I totally disagree. Obama is wears the pants between the two of them.
JP, oy,
Do you guys really think Michelle is behind that so called “great race speech”, or rather the great race-bait speech, where Obama pulled one bait-n-switch and/or slight-of-hand trick after another?!? The type of wording, the slippery and evasive verbiage of the speech totally mirrors Obama’s two best selling memoirs.
In contrast, Michelle’s senior thesis paper at Princeton reads like some little high school kid with a chip on her shoulder wrote it.
Look also at Obama’s body language when he faces off, if you will, against Bill, Mr. Two Terms himself, and Hillary, in face to face meetings.
Barry is a VERY cocky S.O.B.
I don’t know Barry and I don’t know Michelle. All I have is my perception of them and that is not the point that I’m trying to make.
My point is: what is their strategy going forward?
It seems Barry and Michelle are separating. I think this has been going on for awhile now: Barry in the spotlight, Michelle working behind the scenes. The reason why I think this is important is because McCain took them by surprise and now they are trying to turn the tables. MSM will cover for this and hence we should pay attention and not let them surprise us with this technique. I could be wrong, but it doesn’t hurt to be aware and have eyes open.
To me the importance is not in who wrote this or that, but the importance is in understanding that Michelle has a role in the campaign and she is high in the ranking. She should be watched is all I’m saying.
Actually, focusing strictly on the wording of the “great race speech” or who wrote it misses the point: Obama had breathtaking cajones for trying to pull off what he needed: TURN A GIANT LIABILITY INTO A GIANT PLUS. And at the time he pulled it off–with the help of the media of course.
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, OBAMA WAS TEA-BAGGING US ALL WITH THAT SPEECH. (Nice visual, no?) And then 6 weeks later, he committed the MOTHER-OF-ALL flips-flops when he schizophrenically condemned Wright and left Trinity Church. This in and of itself is 100% proof he was, and still is, FULL OF SHIT.
Anyway, I do believe all key members of a campaign should be watched–including his wife. But IMO, it is Obama and Axelrod who are by far the top two strategists of the campaign.
okay, let me see if i get this straight: first, Sarah is not a ‘Sistah’ and Blacks don’t shop at Wal-Mart… and barky’s gettin’ dirty in Florida…
did i miss anything? (btw, great link)
“Could it be this is what the O Team is up to? Going under the radar? Or at least trying to do so? I think this is something to pay attention to. I know the MSM won’t.”
Don’t be so sure.
Between Hillary and Obama, they fraudulently and knowingly kept playing up the race card in Obama’s favor. They also fraudulently suppressed any notion that it was none other than Obama was was constantly race-baiting, gender-baiting, and character assassinating.
Between Obama and McCain-Palin, they are (legitimately) playing up sexism turning Palin, and hence McCain, into victims.
This was the plan all along.
It’s NO accident.
In the comming presidential elections, we will see many more women and each time: YOU WILL SEE FAVORITISM IN FAVOR OF GOP WOMEN OVER DEMOCRATIC WOMEN. IN PARTICULAR, IF HILLARY FACES OFF AGAINST MCCAIN-PALIN IN 2012, THEN YOU’LL SEE HILLARY ONCE AGAIN PORTRAYED AS A BITCH, AND PALIN AS A VICTIM. THE CORPORATE MEDIA HAS ALWAYS GENDER-BAITED HILLARY, CALLING HER EVITA IN THE EARLY 1990′S WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO REFORM THE HMO’S, AND TONYA HARDING DURING THE 2008 PRIMARIES, ETC.
How else do you think that draft-dodging, drunk-driving, coke-head Bush was able to beat Gore in 2000 and then Kerry in 2004?!? In both cases, there was horrific bias in favor of Bush, the Republican. Dole also got some considerable favorable treatment in 1996–though it was much more subtle. (Bill Clinton is a true JUGGERNAUT of a candidate which is why it is a bit hard to see that Dole indeed got favorable treatment over him.)
LIKEWISE, THE CORPORATE MEDIA AND THE GOP HAVE ALWAYS RACE-BAITED THE CLINTONS SAYING CRAP LIKE: “BILL CLINTON IS EXPLOITING BLACKS CYNICALLY USING THEM IN PHOTO-OPS.” That is, the GOP pundits and politicians who perennially run on divisive issues like Affirmative Action, crime (black crime), guns (black crime), death penalty (black crime), Willie Horton, the Confederate flag, etc., brazenly utter such crap and then corporate media whores DELIBERATELY don’t call them on it.
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Because Obama is first the Af. American nominee, we will also see a lot of African Americans candidates in the near future. Unfortunately, about 1/2 of them will race-bait like Obama. And as for the good ones who don’t race-bait–their black supporters will surely do it on their behalf. This is why Obama is such a fucking bastard: HE HAS SET A HORRIFIC PRECEDENT. Since Hillary had a 2:1 advantage with black voters, he never would have won the nomination without race-baiting, and he knew it.
Obama’s Af. American O-bots are still race-baiting like crazy behind the scenes within the African American community, even though officially the campaign has ceased & desisted recently, realizing the race-card isn’t gonna fly in the general election for some peculiar reason.
During the 1990’s, Nobel laureate Toni Morrison famously said of Bill: He “is the first black president… blacker than any black person…” BTW, Morrison has been supporting that half-white, race-baiting douchebag Obama, since the election season began. In 2007, Cornell West called Obama a sell-out; by early 2008, West was a staunch supporter of Obama. Go figure.
Obama could win because in state stats Dems are outpacing Repubs in voter registration.
True, but he needs at least a 10% cushion to overcome the Bradley-Wilder effect.
Also, the GOP/Corporate media have successfully, or easily really, brought down his positives and are increasing his negatives. To inspire new voters, Obama needs to be an inspirational person. He’s losing that lofty image more and more by the day.
Good point
I also think there will be a humongous “Reverse Bradley Effect” in this election—i.e., voters who only SAY they’ll vote for Obama, for fear of being called racist, having rocks thrown through their windows, etc. I’m sure there are millions of voters like this all over America.
Even if the Obama people succeed in registering new voters, the new voters may not all vote for Obama.
Maybe it should be called the “Thug Effect.” It has nothing to do with race.
Are they real voters or Chicago Zombies?
The answer is both and neither, the Democrats can figure out how the recently departed wanted to vote if they had been alive so Mayor Delay taught them how to register voter intent as a vote. Wonder what it means that most dead people vote Democrat?
Nobama!!
” ‘Reverse Bradley Effect’ in this election—i.e., voters who only SAY they’ll vote for Obama, for fear of being called racist,”
Perry,
LOL. That is precisely the Bradley-Wilder effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
By registering FELONS And by having a compliant Democrat in charge of voting in places like key state Ohio.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13415.html
Jennifer Brunner’s ruling could help Democrats in a key battleground state.
“It’s fairly clear that the secretary [Brunner] has decided that she is the ultimate arbiter of Ohio law and when she wants to change it she will,” said William Todd, chairman of the Ohio chapter of the Republican National Lawyers Association and co-chairman of Lawyers for McCain in Ohio.
(Ohio also passed a law that allows people to vote as soon as they register. Which with almost 1/2 a million college students will favor Obama. Jennifer Brunner is a Democrat. )
Missing votes spark lawsuit
The touch-screen voting setup used in half of Ohio’s 88 counties doesn’t work properly, and the former Diebold Election Systems should pay as a result, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said in a court filing yesterday.
The move comes fewer than 90 days before Ohio voters go to the polls in an election that could decide the presidential race, but Brunner says safeguards will be in place by then in the affected counties to mitigate any risks.
“We will make the equipment work, but this is not something that Ohio should be satisfied with for the long term,” Brunner said. “Our goal is to have Ohio taxpayers compensated for this equipment that doesn’t function properly.”
Brunner is seeking punitive damages from Diebold,* now Premier Election Solutions, after she said an investigation showed that votes in at least 11 counties were “dropped” in recent elections when memory cards were uploaded to computer servers.
Elections workers discovered the missing votes, but not until many hours later in most cases, Brunner said. The malfunction first was discovered in Butler County in April, she said.
Forty-four counties, including Licking and Fairfield in central Ohio, use Premier touch-screens. Franklin County uses touch-screens from a different manufacturer.
Note:
* One of Obama SD has or had ties to Diebold. He also lobbied the DNC to use these machines. Think his name is Joe Andrews.
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/08/07/copy/state_sues.ART_ART_08-07-08_A1_OLAV6VF.html?sid=101
Registering voters is one thing. Voting is another thing..
Hahahahahahaha Obama ain’t gonna win Florida, sweetie
Well, I recall the claim that new voters, 20 million of them, would bring Kerry to victory. I actually thought he would win, a friend called it the other way, I ate my hat.
Hillary doesn’t scare me, never has, but these Obama freaks do, I frankly don’t trust them, and I don’t mean 12 million new ethnic voters, or the like. I mean the people at the top, that an Obama victory would bring in. I don’t trust those people, I don’t trust their judgement, I certainly don’t trust their past, and the Ayers connection is just a bit too close to home jihad for comfort for me.
I see that little problem combining with absolution for enemies in and on the domestic front and in then and running parts of our government(which is already be true to a degree IMO, and would be accellerrated).
They laughed when Harry Truman was there and accusations were made, but when I checked the history, they were right, in too many high profile areas and cases.
Same with Obama’s mother, who I have deduced was simply an athiest communist, and have seen the layout on the “school masters”(Mercer Island) and commentary from Obama himself on her beliefs to draw my conclusion.
I don’t “dig it”.
So for the quicksand problem, I think more people are going to catch that wind I have above, and bail, probably from a deep fear they really cannot control, and one based upon that which isn’t unrealistic, but can be “made fun of” and called ridiculous.
Oh well. Gee Dee, me, then.
How could those eldster Jewish retirees EVER vote for fauxbama who takes money from HAMAS and has endorsements from Qadaffi, Iran, Syria and HEZBOLLAH?
Though dissatisfaction with what took place in the primaries is an important factor, I agree that this large percentage of Dem voters for McCain is caused by the enormous number of Jewish voters who do not trust (and should not trust at all!) B. Hussein Obama.
i’m surprised at the high percentages of independent voters in the barko column, especially given the primary mess…
I can believe it. The list of our Presidents over the past few years suggests independents have TERRIBLE judgment.
Diebold is the final arbiter.
obama spent 19 months burning bridges on his way to winning the nomination for POTUS. now he thinks hes running for VP. as a 50 yr old male independent, i would rather have an inexperienced VP than a corrupt inexperienced PRESIDENT!!!
Inexperienced VP? Palin has more experience actually governing than Obama does. If she is inexperienced, then Obama is worse than inexperienced.
Another interesting article:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/09/14/2008-09-14_barack_obamas_big_blunder.html?page=0
“With top Dems fearing Barack Obama is in a hole, the Obama campaign has made a weird decision. It’s going to dig that hole deeper, harder and faster.”
So maybe it is just that simple: they are burying themselves. Who would have thunk it from the ‘magnificent, glorious and oh so precious’ team.
Florida is livid that we have been robbed AGAIN! Like you said there is’nt enough money or speeches Obama can deposit in our state to make us forget or “get over” that he along with the DNC violated our constitutional right to have our votes properly counted.
We will never forget or forgive and have every intention of paying this fraud in kind come November 4.
It’s too late this election year for Obama and his thug army to understand that ye reap what you sow.
PUMA
I hope you are right and that Florida voters not only show their disgust w how their votes weren’t important to Obama in the Dem primary but that McCain really is the best choice to lead our country.
The dem party with Obama stole from Florida..and Mich voters… but it is the nation they really robbed..don’t ever think otherwise.
This Floridan will never vote for Obama..no way no how..they didn’t want my vote in January..they continued the farse in May..and they damn sure won’t get my vote in Nov
It will be the first time in my life i vote for a Republican..but the way the DNC has operated and team Obama ..they will not get my down ticket vote either..i will punish those who went along by voting repub against them and leave blank the others.
The only dems i will vote for are those who fought to have my vote counted..and did no backroom deals.
PUMA!!!!!
I wish this Carson City Palin speech wouldn’t keep stalling. It sounds like the crowd absolutely loves her!
It didn’s stall out for me. Maybe you need to reboot, especially if there is a Windows Update waiting to be installed. Sounds like your RAM is full.
There are many, many ads in our newspapers, on Craigslist and flyers offering $10 an hour “to bring hope” to the country by working phone banks on behalf of “Deomocracy” here in South Florida. I sawsome of them yesterday for the 1st time and knew what that was all about immediately. I’ve been receiving calls all week asking me if I support the Obama. I just tell them NO. There must be a ton of money being put behind this effort. One funny thing was I talked to one worker about my support of Hillary and the disenfranchised vote here and she actually agreed withme by the time I finished the call with her. haha
Glen..in 2004 we didn’t have to pay anyone to make the calls..we had so many volunteers working 24/7 making the calls ..for free!!and that was in a huge SW county in Fla..and i know all the other counties in western Fla were the same…there were a few paid GOTV door knockers..but they led teams of volunteers.
This year..hardly anyone who did the work in 2004 have come out to volunteer ..this year they “have to” pay to find anyone willing to do the work!
I will tell you this..
If momma ain’t happy , aint nobody happy!!
And that includes grandma!!
..and Momma ain’t happy in Florida..because the DNC stole our votes and Obama stole our votes..
and Momma understands real rulzzzzzzzzzz..and made up rulzzzzzzzzzzzzz…and cheaters.
Obama’s limp figures are all the more disappointing, given that America is in a very Democratic mood right now—or it was before Obama showed up.
Polls show that today’s young voters are the most Democratic generation in America history. After an unbroken series of crappy Republican Presidents (with one good Democrat thrown in there), America is more than ready to go Democratic.
And now Obama comes along to ruin it all. Get ready for another bad President!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_fPi-24Iw
Paul, Thanks for the Palin video. I love this women. By the way I want to thank the league of morons from the Obama Camp that come to NQ and solidify the vote for McCain/Palin
Damn, I was just thinking the same thing. After all, what moron would think that by insulting people you can actually win their votes?
Oops!, I forgot, that moron is running for president as the Democratic nominee.
Sorry, my bad.
Mccaskill repeating the lying Dem talking pointson This Week. Are these politicians really that stupid. Or do they have no diginty to go out and stump for a liar?
My understanding is that Florida had more dems registered even in 2000.
If voters there take their unfair treatment lying down, I’ll be very surprised! They would need very short memories, because they showed a lot of anger at the time.
Even if it gets closer, which I don’t expect, there is also the military factor…if they are being polled it has not shown up in data.
We can assume that Obama gave up on Florida altogether with his stupid Email ad insulting McCain and hence millions of Florida residents.
Truthteller;
Exellent analogy. The thing about hope is that it is an emotion. Emotions are fleeting. Facts are not.
Obama shoots the deputy but not the Sheriff. He is under the dellusion that by using all the money in the world, he can win Florida.
Voters in Florida are real sensitive about getting screwed before or after they vote. The dems did the before thing and now BO “becoming long in the tooth”.
Hope? For some in quicksand?
Oh dear, the Fountain of Youth.
During the Primary Obama (and Dean) sent Florida a cordial “f*ck you”. Now he can’t understand why Floridians are not flocking to vote for him. We’ve had 7 1/2 years of this kind of idiocy for POTUS. We don’t need 4 more.
Remember that 527 ad that starts with a Che flag in an Obama campaign office, and then prominently features the Hamas endorsement for Obama?
Cubans and Jewish people. hmmmm, wonder where that ad will play? Or at least I hope the 527 group is planning to target FL with that ad.
That sort of thing will only fly with right-wing types–and they’re already converted.
Republicans have played the “Commie Card” and the “Abetting Terrorists Card” against Democrats so many times (i.e., every single election since forever), it lacks credibility for everyone but confirmed wingnuts.
It’s payback time. I don’t think the Floridians will ever forget the RBC debacle. The only way we can take back our Party is not to give votes to this corrupted and sexist organization.