McCain took on The View and came out the winner
By Matthew Weaver on September 18, 2008 at 10:30 AM in Abortion, Barack Obama, Cindy McCain, Current Affairs, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Slavery, Supreme Court
One factor in Obama’s ongoing downfall—or something that may slow his fall—was his refusal this past summer and continued refusal to join McCain in a series of town hall gatherings. Senator McCain showed his strength and presence as he sat with the women of The View last week for what turned out to be an excellent showing of his willingness to discuss a wide range of topics and dissenting, even hostile viewpoints.
From the first moment, McCain faced questions about Governor Palin, the Supreme Court, Roe v. Wade, and Slavery (yes, Whoppi asked if she should be concerned about slavery under a McCain administration!)
If you haven’t already done so, I highly recommend that you take the time to watch Senator McCain’s visit on The View. Here it is in three parts:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
A few items that stand out for me:
- Barbara Walters led off with a challenge to McCain to confirm his conclusion that Governor Palin was “the greatest vice presidential candidate in the history of the United States.” McCain deadpanned, “We politicians are never given to exaggeration. He went on to explain “The fact is I think she’s a great person, she’s a great governor, she’s the most popular governor in America, she understands the energy issues.”
- Regarding McCain’s successful and popular ads against Obama, Ms. Behar challenged, “We know those ads are untrue, they are lies.” McCain confidently responded, “They are not lies.”
- Regarding Obama’s insults to Governor Palin, when asked, McCain noted that Obama “chooses his words very carefully and he shouldn’t have said it.”
- Probably the most ridiculous and uninformed question came from Whoppi Goldberg who asked, “Do I have to be worried about becoming a slave again?” under a McCain administration and strict Constitutionalists on the Supreme Court. Barbara Walters reassured her and Ms. Baher, “… we’ll take care of you. Us white folk will take care of you.”
- Queried about bipartisanship, McCain specifically addressed Hillary Clinton, saying:
“I know that she wants to stay in the Senate, but I will work with Hillary Clinton because I’ve worked with her in the past, we’ve traveled together, Barbara, you know that, we have a working relationship that’s of mutual respect and frankly, appreciation,” he said. As she comes back to the Senate, he said, “she will be one of the most influential and powerful members of the Senate. You got to work together.”
- Cindy McCain joined the group on the couch in the latter minutes of the show and they then asked how many houses the McCain’s owned, Cindy drew a line on this question saying to substantial applause:
“You know something, that’s not part of this campaign. We’re fortunate enough to come from a family, particularly my dad and mom, who worked very hard to give me the best that they could and we are fortunate to be able to live a good life and share and give to other people who are not so fortunate.”
- McCain lamented, more than once, that Obama refused to travel the country with him for a series of townhall meetings. He suggested The View host them both, together.
McCain showed a presidential presence in sitting on The View with a mostly hostile group of women, many openly supporting Obama and several with a record of very hostile comments toward McCain and Palin. He used a warm smile and deft touch, even appeared to relish the questions. For the life of me, I cannot see Obama facing a group of successful women opposed to him.
Thanks for the report.
I watched this show last Friday, and wrote the show and a bunch of their sponsors about this ridiculous display, pinpointing the slavery issue she brought up. Enough is enough of the racial stuff, it was totally uncalled for, and I felt like she had planned in advance to get a chance to ambush him.
I loved it that Cindy said later that they “picked our bones clean” as in vultures..lol. Her swipe back about “how many houses” reminded me of how Nancy Reagan defended her Ronnie.
Thanks for putting this up.
I didn’t realize Whoopi used to be a slave! The phrasing “Do I have to be worried about becoming a slave again?” seems quite personal.
Or maybe she just meant that she will have to worry again. Even that interpretation would seem to indicate a paranoid, delusional fear that some how she may be enslaved here in America.
That poor woman lives in a scary world.
SpotOn…
Whoopie was being disingenuous and insulting of Sen McCain’s and our intelligence. a lot like her guy obama.
Whoopie has done very well for herself and her family here in the USA.
wonder how many houses she has, and how many she bought for her family?
as for slavery….well, when was she ever a slave? what a dim remark. i am very disappointed in Whoopie. i thought she was a lot wiser than she is.
Whoopie seems to have changed a lot since her days of co-hosting the charity telethon Comic Relief with Robin Williams and Billy Crystal.
It’s hard to believe she could refocus such altruistic idealism to support some community organizer who allowed tenants of his benefactor Rezko to go without heat in Chicago’s winter.
I guess, like Soertoro/Obama, with success comes a certain amount of callousness.
If I were a sociologist, it would be interesting to look at how people can join a movement and suspend their previously held beliefs - and abandon all skepticism.
Obamaism is like a study in ‘rooting for the team’ behavior. People say and do things which would otherwise be anathema to them.
This is why, to me, heaven forbid, it’s like thinking about how Germans were deluded. Egad, I’ve said it…
Silver Fox — What Whoopie showed us was how stupid she is. She has had a damn good life and to hear her moan about becoming a slave again — is repulsive.
I used to like Whoopi.
This is a completely ignorant ridiculous out of line question.
Just as when Sen Bill Nelson back in February linked Bill Clinton to Plantations.
DISGUSTING shit.
That was NY State Senator Bill Perkins who said that. It was an ugly and totally unnecessary remark. And I have the pleasure of not voting for him.
I seem to remember Whoopi getting on Whitney Houston’s case when Whitney held a concert in Africa and exclaimed it’s good to be home. Whoopi smacked Whitney saying that Whitney wasn’t born in Africa so it wasn’t her home. Guess Whoopi needs to smack herself as well. I think her dreds are way too tight.
eden — Now however, Elizabeth is going to leave the show. Barbara Walters has become so hard edged that she and Elizabeth no longer get along. This was supposed to be an entertaining show for women. Well its not entertaining anymore. I don’t care who they have on — I will never watch it again.
Elizabeth told Hannity that the biggest pain in the neck was Michelle Obama. When she came on the show she was so demanding. She had to have the questions in advance and drove everyone mad. When Cindy McCain made an appearance on The View prior to last Friday she never asked for anything special.
I’ve lost ALL respect for Whoop Goldberg… What an ass.
Whoopi voted for Hillary in the primary. I am a little confused by how she can ask such an assinine and inflammatory question.
She is someone I used to have respect for and I am extremely disappointed she would say that.
I don’t know about that(supporting Hillary), she sure ran over and got in the Obama video ‘Prayer’…quick enough. Then on the view she is asking about SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?!? Excuse me…Obama is the answer to the PRAYER but lets rake McCain over the coals…
Whoopi has lost her spot with me…
The view told Obama he was ’sexy’ and it went all mush from there…
They also were very nice with Michelle too.
I think they were not to nice or fair with the McCain’s.
American Prayer - Dave Stewart (Barack Obama Music Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q
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Was Barack Obama against the war at the beginning of it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXe-_9cr1kQ
Barack Obama on April 5, 2004
Obama: Don’t Bring The Troops Home
Obama says he was against the war in Iraq from the beginning Yeah Right lol.
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Do they know who they are praying for? Do they know he was asking the Iraqis to delay troop withdrawal? Do they know he voted for FISA?
It fascinates me that even a video with his own words doesn’t cause a pause…truly shocking.
Will the real black Republicans stand up!
http://media.www.thehilltoponline.com/media/storage/paper590/news/2008/09/04/Metro/Area-Republicans.Speak.About.The.Gop-3414829.shtml
During the 1800s, the Republican Party fought to end slavery and after the Civil War, it was the Republicans who fought to give blacks the right to vote. Abraham Lincoln was a part of the Republican Party and before Lincoln was voted into office, the Republican Party was known as the “anti-slavery party.”
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Someone didn’t send the memo to Whoopi…
I am a Dem but she was way off base with McCain…and an apology is warranted!
Another thing that I recently discovered about the Republican Party. It was two Republicans legislators who first introduced the Equal Rights Amendment back in the 1920s.
ani…
Whoopie had to vote for Hillary.
she promised to vote for the first person who supported whatever(???), can’t recall the detail, but at first she said it was Obama who was the first and was happy about it…..then she came back the next day to report that she got many many phone calls saying it was Hillary,, not obama who was the first.
that’s when she HAD to say she was going to vote for Hillary.
she never once said she was supporting Hillary. she’s always been for obama. she just couldn’t in all integrity vote for him against her own word.
And we’ll never know who she actually voted for once inside the privacy of the voting booth.
Who cares who she voted for in the Primary? She had always been tacitly supporting BO and now is an outright celeb Obot. She complained that the Dems abandoned her to public criticisms after she made a joke about Bush at one of their fundraisers a few years back. Now she’s back in bed with the same cowardly bunch. She obviously didn’t learn from her past mistake.
It’s sad, really. She must think that will never happen again if Obama is President. She’s drunk the bot juice and apparently forgot that Obama may very well be Muslim. Will she ask him if she has to worry about another Holocaust if he’s elected? After all, Whoopi IS part Jewish. Muslims hates Jews and want them dead. Hey, it’s only FAIR.
But I guess I shouldn’t expect much. She did say growing up during Hitler’s reign wouldn’t feel terrible if it is all one knew. It makes sense she can’t tell Obama is Hitler-lite. I bet she could tell when Bush was Hitler-lite. Really, now.
She was extremely disappointing. I expect stupidity from the rest of them but not Whoopi.
It just shows how much they are in the tank with obama. Even Elisabeth looked like she was told not to show how much she supports McCain.
You and me both.
That slavery thing was out of left field. But it shows me that people honestly just dislike John McCain not because of the man or his actually record, but because he has a R next to his name.
And you like him only because he has an R next to his name. He looked like a complete fool. There is not one person I talked to who had anything nice to say about McCain’s performance.
Start backing McCain into a corner and you get the typical defensive, angry responses. The man is a liar.
To seasiren,
. . . “There is not one person I talked to who had anything nice to say about McCain’s performance.”
You must have talked with your fellow Obamabots. You must be watching a different show. McCain never displayed for a minute what you termed “defensive, angry responses.” If there is anybody who is a liar, it is Obama regarding the nature of his relationship with his associates . . . i.e Rezko . . .(did only a few hours of work), sat in the pew for 20 years listening to Wright, but never heard him spew hate-filled sermons, Ayers, etc. etc.
seasiren….
go home and shut the hell up, would ya?
sheeesh.
come back when you are informed about the truth concerning obama.
regurgitate the kool aid, and get a brain.
thanks
That’s because Obama pays the Bots to say the pledge of allegiance to him, rather than the flag. If any bots disagree they are sent back to the indocrination camps for reprogramming.
When you head back to camp, ask Obama why he won’t agree to any town meetings?
No, sesiren, I like McCain despite the fact that he has an “R” after his name. I’ve learned from this election cycle that I was wrong to vote party over country/candidate all of these previous years, and I was also wrong in my knee jerk reaction that all Republicans were inherently evil and wrong, while all Democrats were enlightened and right. I’ve come to realize that politicians will be politicians, but there are many evil politicians with “D”s and with “R”s after their names. These past two election cycles have also taught me that votes in Congress can be very nuanced, and, when fully explained, John Kerry was correct about being for a piece of legislation before he was against it, and Hillary’s vote on the authorization to use military force was a perfectly sensible, and even an acceptable (to me) position to take. The opposition turned these nuanced positions into “flip-flops” and clever sound bites, but I matured as a voter since 2000, and I’ve also determined that world situtions and issues are rarely presented in stark black or white terms, and we can’t predict how a given issue will present itself or the factors that will be at play during a presidential administration. Therefore, rather than a narrow focus on the “issues”, I have advanced the factors of “character” and “judgment” and “trustworthiness” above all other factors to be considered in my voting choices. When those factors are considered, McCain/Palin have earned my vote.
xax — That is total crap. Why did the media hate Hillary so much then? As Hannity says 2008 — the year journalism died. The media always liked McCain — but they are being forced to push Obama now.
Actually I think she was being ironic when she said that, which is to say she understood the ridiculous extent to which race has been made an issue in this campaign, and was making fun of those who over-emphasize it.
I haven’t watched the clip so I can’t speak to tone of voice, gestures or facial expressions, I’m just taking this from the words spoken and my belief — like you — that Whoopi is a smart and balanced thinker, and while she might be pro-Obama she is not a drunken KoolAid drinker.
Yes, she was being ironic. It was in response to McCains ridiculous assertions that he wants judges who interpret the constitution in the strictest sense. Her point was, if that is the case, do we go back to slavery? Do we say woman cannot vote?
Repubs want it both ways. They claim to want strict constructionists, but what they mean is they want judges who agree with the Repub platform.
Her comments had nothing to do with race or lack of. It had to do with the B.S. McCain spouts about litmus tests. Like the repubs are ever going to consider anyone for any bench who is pro choice.
“Like the repubs are ever going to consider anyone for any bench who is pro choice.”
Hello. Sandra Day O’Connor voted to uphold Roe in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, even though she is personally opposed to abortion. Her position is the same as liberal Catholic Mario Cuomo.
Hello. Harriet Meiers is personally anti-abortion but respects Roe v. Wade. She made a speech that basically restated the ruling in Roe:
“… Where science determines the facts, the law can effectively govern. However, when science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act.”
That’s Roe in a nutshell. So the Radical Right went into overdrive and forced Bush to nominate Alito.
Hello. 5 of the 7 judges in the Roe v. Wade majority were Republican appointees. Hello. Earl Warren of the liberal Warren Court was a Republican. Hello. Half of the liberal wing of the current court are Republican appointees (Souter, Stevens).
Joy made the one smart comment. The more support McCain gets support from the center, the less he has to give in to the Radical Right. Give McCain a centrist mandate!
What difference does pro-choice make really?
Who really wants to have an abortion when pregnancy is so easily prevented????
Pro Choice is grossly over rated - There should be no abortion on demand whatsoever.
It should never be used as a form of birth control, that is just plain stupid.
Most African Americans who get pregnant as young unmarried girls want those kids so they can get more welfare, that is sad and that is what Whoopi and Obama and other African Americans should address, how to stop that crap, so what is the big deal anyway about abortion??????????
Eh, none of that stereotyping here.
The facts tell us that the 2 highest demographic getting abortions are inner-city black women and Upper-class professional white women.
This is an issue of the gravest personal responsibility it cannot be reduced to stereo typing and bad mouthing women.
Not here, not now.
Who better than a strict constructionist to interpret the 14th Amendment mandating for all citizens of the U.S. “equal protection under the law.”
It was strict constructionists that applied this principal to declare unconstitutional any laws segregating the races under the false interpretation of separate but equal, in Brown v. Board of Education, opinion written by Earl Warren, a republican appointee of Eisenhower. Warren also wrote the opinions that said the Constitution requires all criminal defendants the right to be represented by counsel and the famous Miranda opinion that criminal defendants must be advised of their rights.
The Roe v. Wade opinion was written by a Nixon appointee, and and other republican, Sandra Day O’Connor reaffirmed Roe in the subsequent Planned Parenthood v. Casey deciosn.
Reagan appointed Republican supreme court justices wrote the opinions that gays have equal protection under the law in cases that held unconstitutional laws criminalizing gay sexual behavior in private and laws denying gays the right to sue for discrimination. SOunds like strict construction of equal protection to me. The opinion of the California Supreme Court in upholding gay marriage under constitutional equal protection was also authored by the conservative Republican appointee.
Sarah Palin, despite her personal religious beliefs, also strictly construes equal protection under the law by vetoing a bill that would have denied gays and lesbians equality of state benefits.
So what is wrong with a strict construction of equal protection under the law? When it comes to my rights of equality, I prefer it.
heather — you obviously haven’t watched the change in Whoopie. She is drunk on Kool Aid. She is so furious right now that she has lost her humor.
I agree…stupid and completely uncalled for. I’m sorry but too few can see past skin color to make a logical and informed decision about who to vote for.
I’m disappointed that Whoopi was so flippant. Hopefully, she was chilled to her core by BabaWawa’s inadvertently revealing retort.
On the other hand, if we look back at the fearless Whoopi of, say, twenty-five years ago…
This is the Whoopi Goldberg that I knew.
LOL…I saw that coming.
barack community organizer — Whoopie was dressed like a homeless person. Is this the dress code for someone who is balanced? She better hope Obama gets in — if not her career is over.
How dare she insinuate he would approve of the re-introduction of slavery, she’s got everything she wants. He was a POW for 5 1/2 years! Unbelievable.
You people suck. Do you obsess over how much you hate Obama or what?
Losers
areyouserious,
That is all they do. Eat, sleep and talk about Obama. From his teeth to his wife or pigs, whatever they can to justify their dillusions. It is really sad and pathetic. All you will find is blah, blah, blah about pigs, abortion and whatever other stupid crap they think will help their cause. Did you think Repubs would have anything nice to say about a dem?
The repub trolls have taken over this website. There used to be great debate and useful discussions here. Now it has been hijacked by the extreme right wing nutjobs who have drunk the McCain/Palin koolaid.
No Brain, No McCain
From the bottom of my heart…
Fuck the bunch of you. You are all stamped from the same shit filled mold and each and every one of you is as pustulant and infected with ignorance as to make you utterly, utterly inconsequential.
Fuck the bunch of you.
Are you the same Zeke who is a Black Panther?
The same Zeke who said there would be rioting if Obama lost the nomination? The same Zeke who is from Chicago?
You are filled with the same insane rage that fills Barack and Michelle Obama. Why would we want them in the White House? Why would we want YOU to have access to that same White House? Go to Hell.
You need to take courses in how to win friends and influence people. Your ranting and raving, Michelle’s bitterness and Obama’s ties to groups like the “New” Black Panthers are what CHANGED my vote for Obama. I will do everything to insure his failure.
Your Black Panthers promise to “change America the melting pot” into a ‘molten America’” rings with so much false bravado. Your childish insults we brush off the bottom of our shoe, taking you and Barry with it.
areyouserious,
Yes we do hate and fear Obama and people like Whoopi Goldberg who support him.
African American, most of them, not all support Obama just because of his race - That is certainly racism, now isn’t it.
That is not why I hate him though and I certainly cannot stand him nor his buddies Ludacris and P.Diddy.
Personally I don’t want the White House painted black.
Wait a minute! Are you seriously engaging in pot/kettle insults? You Botheads are shoved so far up 0bama’s ass you’re damn near brain dead.
Pound for pound McCain is better qualified and prepared to be POTUS. 0bama is a marketing clone, Senator Ditto backed by the dirty disgusting Chicago Combine. His State Senate resume was gift wrapped by Emil Jones, he was in bed with Tony Rezko, a slumlord who let AAs freeze in Chicago winters and 0bama did nothing about the people in his own districts, not to mention they were AA like he pretends to be as he has conned them into supporting him without promising them anything.
We, on this board are trying to defeat 0bama. Unlike you, nobody here worships McCain. But at least we know what we’re getting with John McCain. After 0bama’s flip on FISA and his vote for the Cheney Energy Bill there’s no way to tell whether 0bama has a ‘D‘ or a ‘R‘ behind his name.
Add to that all of his shady friends and the amount of money he took from Fannie Mae and his Laundry List of Lies, I’d say the people here are on the right side of this election.
So beat it!
I thought it was a good question concerning the Constitution and role of the three branches of government in protecting it. Granted Ms. Goldberg used an extreme example in her question, but I’m also curious as to what the Senator’s strict adherence to what he thinks the founding fathers intended with the Constitution is. As Ms. Goldberg pointed out, the founding fathers weren’t the most enlightened bunch on certain issues, only land owners could vote, African Americans weren’t equal to European Americans, women had very limited rights, etc… Over the past two hundred plus years, the Constitution has been given new interpretations - fleshing out what the right of privacy includes, granting equality to all people, what is legal search, seizure, arrest, etc. as out society has grown and changed. Our Judicial, Legislative and Executive branches of government have further expanded on the Constitution and over the centuries there have been a few missteps but for the most part the expansions have firmly cemented a foundation for our freedoms. Until the past eight years while we’ve apathetically have watched as our rights granted by the expansions have been taken away.
I want to know how far Senator McCain is willing to regress with his ‘choosing judges who don’t legislate from the bench.’ Over the past twenty-years I’ve read opinion after opinion from conservative judges who were doing as much legislating from the bench as the Warren Court is often accused of doing.
A strict adherence of the Constitution means interpreting it with the definitions of the 18th century. In 1790, the only people protected fully under the Constitution were white males who owned land. Is that Senator McCain’s policy? Or does is his policy tempered by how our society has matured and advanced economically, technicalogically, socially, etc.? In 1800, illegal search and seizure was barging into a person’s house without a warrant. Today the government can barge into a personal email account, they don’t need to physically enter the house.
Ms. Goldberg was asking, is your Constitutional policy going to protect only the rich and powerful (which is still dominated by white men) across the board or is it going to protect the minorities too - non-whites, women, children, polar bears, etc.
As wonderful as it is to see that you still retain a degree of curiosity, if you fail to ask these same questions of Obama… and he has no answers other than BS platitudes, then what you are really doing is masking your bias and pre-judgement (or Prejudice) with false prose.
See if Barry has any answers other than bullshit and then come back with his answers. Otherwise, see my above post.
OMG Zeke it is early here and I took that comment wrong. Thought it was directed at non Obama supporters. ouchie. Again I am so sorry.
Your argument is silly and stupid. The constitution has amendments added to bring it up to modern standards of living. I can’t believe anyone would advance this line of “reasoning(?)”
How many times does John McCain have to say inclusion?
“strict constitutionalist”
blablityblahblityblahblah
See Spot?
See Spot run?
See Spot’s tail?
See who is wagging Spot?
When you run out of reasons to support your own candidate you get down to deconstructing the words of his opponent.
Abortion
Civil Rights
SCOTUS Judges
Racism
Elite-ism
Nothing but words that elicit proscribed responses. Yai! from supportersl Hey! from detractors.
blahblityblahblah … nobody believes we are going back to slaves or back alley coat hangers or five movies of year from the star of Yentle (will the real Yenta please stand up! please stand up!).
This “show” gave me second hand embarrassment. These women acted as vapid as one could script.
McCain further wins me over. This is what I say to those who ask why I won’t vote for Obama. Simple. He hasn’t won me over yet. He has had many opportunities.
In the country we call these folks “Cuds.” The stuff you chew and chew but eventually spit out. (AKA the fatty inside of your mouth some people like to “chew.”)
VetGirl,
You rock!
0bama hasn’t won me over either. And I’m insulted that he and the rest of the AAs, my community btw, think he’s not supposed to.
Fuck that!
I’m a voter. He’s a candidate. It’s his job to be more than a symbol.
After 4 years of Bush/Cheney, I need more.
Six months ago I said he was not ready! Today I say he’s simply not presidential material!
And every day he proves me right.
sjc-tx — I think Whoopie is delusional. She said on her blog that Sarah Palin wanted Alaska to SUCCEED from the union. Whoopie should stay a comic and let smart people run the country.
Well, if she did use phrasing like “will I have to be worried about becoming a slave again”, that is, I agree, inaccurate and indicative of something I’d find it hard to respect . . . but I read the transcript of the appearance after first hearing of her mention of slavery, and in context, I was surprised to find that I thought she really did have a good point and it was made well, and I believe McCain (from what I remember of the transcript) conceded that she had a point.
sjc-tx — I lost respect for Whoopie when she said that she is allowed to say the N word and Elizabeth could not. Then she said it over and over and was furious because ABC bleeped it.
Yes, only in NQ Land would McCain being down 11% among women since going on the View be considered a “win”.
If things are so rosy for Ohitler why waste your superior intellect on us were mortals?
If things are so rosy for Ohitler why waste your superior intellect on us mere mortals?
It doesn’t take a superior intellect to read polls. In the last week, Obama has made huge strides in important swing states, including Indiana, WV and NC, once all considered safe McCain territory.
No it only takes a complete fool to believe in CNN/Time polls when they are in the tank for Obama and have never provided any form of an accurate poll to date. But then again, you are a paid troll, so your intelligence is proven in the fact you cannot find meaningful work and simply have to troll for a low life inexperienced self-serving politician!
dailykos has recently launched its own poll. There is no doubt this is for one reason only … to create the ILLUSION that the race is close, so that when Obama’s people hack the voting machines on 11/4, it will be sufficiently plausible that investigations will not be launched.
BEWARE. THEY *WILL* HACK VOTING MACHINES.
Look at the partisan breakdowns on these polls. They give the Dems a 9% advantage off the top and undersampling indies. Even assuming a 50/50 split among indies that means Obama is losing 5-7% off the top to his own party, and that is considered a “bumb”.
At least Rasmussen updates his partisan breakdown based on reality. Generic polling has seen the GOP close the gap from 15 points down to 5 points down. Padding a poll by oversampling Dems, like it’s pointed out, maintains the illusion that Obama is “surging”.
This from the party who has stolen the last two elections?
Go read your history. The GOP are the ones who are stealing elections, throwing people off of the rolls, putting people in jail. You are delusional. Oh wait, I forgot the GOP always blames the dems for what they do.
WAKE UP! It was not the Republican PARTY who “stole” the elections it was the NEOCONS. Or ruling elite or Illuminati or whatever you want to call them. These people are BEYOND PARTY. They are backing OBAMA this time because they aren’t stupid enough to back another Republican after Bush’s low approval rating. Unfortunately for them, some of us are awake and see through their BS.
Hillary Clinton did not steal the democratic nomination, Obama did. Just because two candidates are in the same party does not mean they use the same dirty tricks.
Speaking of stealing elections (like HIllary’s), I see that Obama’s old organizing group ACORN has been hit twice now in the last two months with submitting fraudulent voter registration cards - 1100 in Bernalilo County, NM and then last month in Milwaukee, WI. It seems Obama’s roots are showing.
omg, LOL…Indiana?? You’re joking me right?? hahahaha, I live in Indiana sucker, we haven’t went Democrat for President since 1964 and it won’t be this year either. By the way, tell all of your goose stepping cohorts that are working in Indiana that voters need photo ID to vote and they also have to sign a registration book and they match your signature. So don’t try that shady shit here because we’ll be up your ass. And Obama has not made any huge strides in Indiana, he is behind and he’ll stay behind.
cripes…you people are really delusional. You’re a lost cause.
Absolutely correct wodiej!
Live in Indiana as well and I can assure you that it won’t go Democrat for President.
MCCain is up and is ahead here and will win.
Dream on BO;this one is not up for grabs !
You might want to revise and extend your remarks.
Most recent (and highly reliable) Selzer poll for Indiana:
Obama: 47
McCain: 44
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080918/NEWS0502/809180460
LOL…trust me, NC is RED.
I agree with you. Although polls have been wrong before. The people on this site only believe the polls that show McCain up. Any polls showing Obama up have to be by some people who are “in the tank” for Obama. Polls don’t matter, election day matters.
Facts are stubborn things but certain people on this site try to twist them to suit their dream of 4 more Bush years. “The fundamentals of the economy are strong”? Yes, they have all drunk the McCain koolaid.
Aye! McCain koolaid good. Obama Koolaid causes obvious brain damage.
Take it slow, pay attention:
I rather have FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH than 1 day of an Otraitor administration.
So your insults fall way short of it’s mark. As does your comprehension skills.
get a life blue intrique…..kentucky and north carolina are those bitter people clinging to their guns and religion, they are not flocking to oliar, you are only fooling yourself
These are the same polls that had John Kerry in the lead in 2004.
How’d that work out for ya?
blue — Obama moans if he is not winning. He he says stupid things. So the media has to make him look good which is a fulltime job. Take your superior intellect and go bother another blog with it.
I’m guess that’s according to the MSNBC/MoveOn.org poll.
Can I have a hit off the polls you’ve been smoking?
ha ha ha perry
Ah… an other member of the Ministry of Disinformation has arrived to give us the “facts”.
The last I heard Othug is down 15 pts in the white woman demographic, meaning that McCain leads this group by 12 pts. Didn’t Osexist lead in this category formerly?
More disrespect of the national anthem.
“The Star-Spangled Banner’ is going on. I don’t celebrate this [expletive]. I’m black,” Dallas Mavericks forward Josh Howard says.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=176833
ha was kicked out the olympic team trials and over the summer was caught in possession of marijuana. also maybe it was an indirect jab at kobe bryant who had that patriotic interview during the olympics.
no GOLD for him