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I’m posting this early, so enjoy this article by the very clever Victor Davis Hanson as we await the debate:

Journalists continue to ask, “What was John McCain thinking in selecting the gaffe-prone Gov. Sarah Palin?”

In what has now become a disturbing pattern, the Alaska governor seems either unable or unwilling to avoid embarrassing statements that are often as untrue as they are outrageous. Recently, for example, in an exclusive interview with news anchor Katie Couric, Palin gushed, “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’ ” Apparently the former Alaskan beauty queen failed to realize that in 1929 there was neither widespread television nor was Franklin Roosevelt even President. …


Read all — it’s hilarious.

Okay, the debate is about to start. LIVE BLOG if you’re a fast typist, or just share your impressions as the debate progresses. We’re certainly going to keep an eye on Gwen Ifill, aren’t we.

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Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 19:51:22

Hi, ready for debate, got FOX on now.

Comment by Hispana | 2008-10-02 19:52:58

Bring it on.

 

Comment by NoBAma | 2008-10-02 19:57:43

Sarah Palin will channel Hillary Clinton tonight at the debate and she will kick OBiden’s ass across the Missouri arches.

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 19:53:32

Will Gwen Ifill disclose her conflict of interest?
- My guess is no, if she did, she’d have to realize its impact and withdraw as moderator.

Who will make first certified gaff?
- My guess is Biden

 

Comment by John | 2008-10-02 19:53:45

Donna Brazile just called Gwen Ifill (sic) “fair, balanced, a real journalist…You Go Girl!”

If Brazile endorses you as a moderator, that’s enough to disqualify the moderator in my opinion.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 19:55:00

That’s kind of like Bush and Brown, etc. just before he dumped them. Maybe Ifill is next under the bus?

Sounds like CNN is more interesting at the moment. FOX is boring.

 

Comment by Hispana | 2008-10-02 19:56:26

Geez. That is pathetic.

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 19:57:39

CNN has lost me as a viewer this election season - watching FOX now.

 

Comment by SWPAnnA | 2008-10-02 20:06:07

I’m watching on CSPAN - can’t bear to listen to the tankers

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-02 19:57:37

Good Luck Gov Palin!!!!!

 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-10-02 19:57:45

Glad we are blogging it, I can’t watch, I am just so tired of the msm, so I’ll listen to my compatriots from NQ.

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:00:34

CSPAN’s got it too

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-10-02 20:04:06

Yes. C-Span.org.

PBS and NPR have the debate live too.

pbs.org
npr.org

 
 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 19:59:07

FOX now talking about Ifill’s book.

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-02 19:59:52

I wish they would fire Roland Martin…he is soooo angry

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:02:12

Roland Martin should come with a disclaimer for his hate and racism. He is from Chicago and member of Meeks and Obama’s racist community. I have never figured out why CNN never flagged him as a biased commentator, nor disclosing his affiliations and history.

 
 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-10-02 20:00:08

Good Luck Gov Palin!

 

Comment by Xentie 69 | 2008-10-02 20:00:09

God may Sarah be on your side tonite!

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-02 20:00:34

Okay people 30 seconds and live

 

Comment by georgia | 2008-10-02 20:01:33

I’m so nervous! Like a stage mom!

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:01:48

A prayer and my blessings to her.

 

Comment by WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName | 2008-10-02 20:02:00

We are praying for you Sarah! Go get ‘em!

McCain/Palin Nov. 4th

 

Comment by cal | 2008-10-02 20:02:26

for anyone interested in a live chat:

http://www.partizane.com NewHampter’s place.

Comment by Medusa | 2008-10-02 20:04:08

Wow, she looks fabulous

 
 

Comment by Xentie 69 | 2008-10-02 20:02:39

am having a stiff drink right now!

 

Comment by texaslatina | 2008-10-02 20:02:45

go sarah! go get him girl! kick biden butt!

 

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-02 20:04:01

This woman is all class

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:04:09

No disclosure from Gwen Ifill. Figures.

Comment by dpvegas | 2008-10-02 20:10:09

How is it that she’s doing this? That’s just SO wrong! Why doesn’t anyone question why the MSM is so in the tank for Barky? Of course, the MSM will not be honest about themselves, would they?

 

Comment by trixta | 2008-10-02 20:13:49

Yeah—-Ifill, whom I have generally like over the years, really should have come out and given a disclaimer. I’m disappoinhed. This is not professional.

 
 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-02 20:04:34

Go get Biden, Governor Palin! Yes, you CAN!

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 20:05:03

Big freakin’ lies coming out of Biden’s mouth right now about the bailout!

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:05:14

Biden looks very tired. Who’s he looking at?

 

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-10-02 20:05:48

Wouldn’t it be funny if used the “Joe and I are in agreement about this…” The line that Obama always uses.

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:06:50

She is doing good. biden is surprised!!1

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-10-02 20:26:59

I noticed that too! You could see the admiration in his eyes — the realization that, oh, this woman can go mano-a-mano (so to speak!).

I’m loving Sarah’s smart responses mixed in with her folksiness.

She’s doing great . She is winning so far.

 
 

Comment by Xentie 69 | 2008-10-02 20:07:03

does she look a little nervous?

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 20:07:38

Yes. She needs to breathe more.

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:07:52

A bit, give her a minute to calm down…

 

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-10-02 20:08:13

Yeah, but that’s okay. Humanizes her.

 
 

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:07:16

Great opening statement from Sara-cuda!

 

Comment by foxcycles | 2008-10-02 20:07:27

I heart Sarah

 

Comment by georgia | 2008-10-02 20:07:32

good answer on bail out…….. good start

 

Comment by Prem | 2008-10-02 20:08:04

Glad to hear Palin mention Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae and the Dems not listening to McCain two years ago–good one!

 

Comment by WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName | 2008-10-02 20:08:49

Yes, I agree that she looked a little nervous at first, but she’s getting stronger as she goes.

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-10-02 20:09:21

This is her venue. She’s doing a great job.

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:09:29

…and just get the job done.

and git down to getting business done.

Yes, a real accent!!!

 

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:09:30

Of course she’s nervous!

 

Comment by texaslatina | 2008-10-02 20:09:47

she’s doing well considering she is a novice on the national stage and joe is a pro. joe so far to his credit is being polite and not obnoxious.

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:10:03

Go girl go!!!

 

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-10-02 20:10:26

Go Sarah go! Greed and corruption!

 

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:10:47

She is very articulate

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:10:54

NEVER AGAIN!!!!!
Best thing I’ve heard

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:10:56

Yes!!! Palin is being Palin. This is not a life-long politician. This is likely to prove lively because Biden is going to look old and stale by comparison.

 

Comment by hadenough | 2008-10-02 20:11:16

Oh dear! I’m like’n me some Palin.

 

Comment by georgia | 2008-10-02 20:11:27

Oh thank God………. she shounds great!

 

Comment by just me | 2008-10-02 20:11:32

shes doing well sounds strong!

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-02 20:11:46

OH SHIT!! HER Lines are hitting the top!! Go fucking Gov Palin!!! MSM YOU GOT HAD!!!

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 20:11:47

She just gave a great answer on the mortgage crisis - she’s loosening up - phew!

 

Comment by Xentie 69 | 2008-10-02 20:12:06

she has a bit of fire to her tonite!

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-10-02 20:12:08

Joe is looking like old Washington.

 

Comment by Prem | 2008-10-02 20:12:14

Obama didn’t warn about subprime—another lie coming from Biden.

Comment by AngryWhitePerson | 2008-10-02 20:19:09

Yeah, I was disgusted by this. Why did Biden say Obama warned about the subprime? Ludicrous. If Obama warned everyone, why the hell didn’t he do anything, or yell louder so that others did something? And if Obama couldn’t get anyone’s attention, how is this to his credit?

Comment by Subprime Sallie | 2008-10-02 20:22:59

Same old answer.

Obama has never led anything. He’s never changed anything.

 
 
 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:12:40

He is starting to talk history. Nothing nwe we dont know…
Her face speaks!!!

 

Comment by Karma | 2008-10-02 20:12:51

Obama spoke up? Two years ago?

LOL….Is Biden actually lying about Obama as a debate strategy?

 

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-10-02 20:12:55

I’m watching CNN. They have an uncommitted ticker. Did you see the surge for Sarah when she was talking about “Never again.” Then it dropped like a stone when Joe opened his mouth.

 

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-02 20:12:56

she needs to jump on this big time. bidden is full of shit on mccain calling for deregulation

 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-10-02 20:13:01

Are they into the questions, or opening still?

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:15:31

Yes, questions going fine and Palin is not letting Biden get past anything. He’s definitely outclassed in the first few minutes.

 
 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-02 20:13:26

Keep it up Sarah!

 

Comment by Deborah | 2008-10-02 20:13:41

biden looks like an ass grinning at her like that

 

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:13:43

 

Comment by tarheelmrp | 2008-10-02 20:13:48

she is simply kicking his b-u-t-t

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:15:08

Straight to the american people… this is good!!!

 

Comment by Patti | 2008-10-02 20:15:15

Oh my she is kicking butt and taking names. Let me correct you on that. Nice line..

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-10-02 20:15:16

YOWZA!!!!!! Get ‘im Sarah.

 

Comment by NoObamaNation | 2008-10-02 20:15:20

Damn ! I’m so nervous for Sarah ! She is doing good but I’m still a nervous wreck !

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:15:49

Biden is nervous, look at his nervous smile and tick!!1

 

Comment by just me | 2008-10-02 20:16:00

she is strong ~~ Go Sarah

 

Comment by texaslatina | 2008-10-02 20:16:08

joe looks like he is doped up or something. maybe he is just tired. or does he always look like that? maybe i have never looked at him that closely.

 

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-02 20:16:26

I like how Palin just said:

“I might now answer the questions how you (Biden) or how the moderator wants me to answer them, but I’m going to talk straight to the American people”

I swear, I can see the contempt on Ifill’s face.

 

Comment by Jane Doe | 2008-10-02 20:16:30

Ifill just cut Sarah off. She couldn’t stand seeing her guy get his ass kicked!

Comment by Karma | 2008-10-02 20:23:26

So much for being objective….and it only took her minutes.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:25:50

Yes, but I missed the details.

And, great answer just now as I write this! I’ve only been campaigning for 5 weeks, no time for promises.

 
 
 

Comment by Bell'Artista | 2008-10-02 20:16:41

What is this smirking crap from Biden who has more make-up on than Palin?

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-02 20:17:09

Eat dirt MSM..Barack Sarah is coming for your ass next week!! THNK YOU REPUBLICANS THANK YOU THANK YOU!Gov Palin is the [ADMINISTRATOR: Comment removed for inappropriate content.] She has him on the offensive!!

[ADMINISTRATOR: Please use more appropriate language. Thank you!]

 

Comment by Prem | 2008-10-02 20:17:18

Palin is talking to the camera—good eye contact the viewers.

 

Comment by joseyj | 2008-10-02 20:17:23

95% will get a tax break?? after this financial mess????????
I bet Obama would lower that bar by February.

Comment by K Lynne | 2008-10-02 20:20:47

How can 95% get a tax break when roughly 40% pay no taxes at all? They’ll get a bigger tax CREDIT, maybe?

 
 

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:17:27

 

Comment by tarheelmrp | 2008-10-02 20:17:28

i just got a glass of wine…

 

Comment by foxcycles | 2008-10-02 20:17:51

Biden looks like he’s in a wind tunnel. He’s got to stop the cosmetic surgeries.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-02 20:18:17

ooh, she just got him on the paying taxes is patriotic remark…haha

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-02 20:19:58

OMG… this is a home run in all aspects!!!! I never thought she was so efective at communicating and debating. She has raised the standards.
and He says he dosent knoe were to start!!!

 

Comment by joseyj | 2008-10-02 20:20:10

I love the way Palin is calling Obama “Barack” - LOL

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-02 20:20:11

She made me laugh on her health care answer!! Fantastic! She’s really warming up here…thank God!

 

Comment by Xentie 69 | 2008-10-02 20:20:37

Now I remember why I love her so much! She is like me! I can truly relate to her!

 

Comment by Bell'Artista | 2008-10-02 20:20:38

Biden is going on about his homely neighborhood of Scranton,
good old regular Joe

 

Comment by hadenough | 2008-10-02 20:20:39

biden: gwen I don’t know where to start

At last some honesty from biden.

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-10-02 20:20:47

Bite him, Sarah!! Like anyone will get a tax cut now. ACORN will get it all.

 

Comment by NoBAma | 2008-10-02 20:20:51

Sarah is standing strong against plugs.

 

Comment by pcbedamned | 2008-10-02 20:20:52

Go Sarah! She is doing awesome. Call the Commie out, baby… (fairness my a** - why work your butt off so that the welfare cases can benefit???)

 

Comment by Daisy's Mom | 2008-10-02 20:21:02

She is really doing well. She is not afraid….

 

Comment by NoObamaNation | 2008-10-02 20:21:09

OMG !!! Go Sarah !!!! I’m so nervous I cant even think !!

 

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-10-02 20:21:17

Biden is talking too many details. The audience already zoned out.

Comment by Medusa | 2008-10-02 20:23:12

They laughed when he said “bridge to nowhere” cheap shot

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-02 20:21:19

Did I just miss Ifill backing up Biden and trying to corner Palin?

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-02 20:25:00

Ifill doesn’t know how to be objective, and it’s definitely showing.

 
 

Comment by requiredreading | 2008-10-02 20:21:56

Suggestion: If you’re on here, not watching the debate because you’re afraid to watch the debate (see: comments from first presidential debate): Turn on the TV — she is rockin’!!!

 

Comment by I know more intelligent fence posts | 2008-10-02 20:22:05

Biden is a smug arrogant ass. He suits barky’s shadow perfectly….

 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-10-02 20:22:37

Doing well, Sarah. Stay on topic. Give him Hell.

 

Comment by Moira | 2008-10-02 20:22:58

OBiden looks OLD.

Gov. Palin looks energized and is charming.

 

Comment by kinthenorthwest | 2008-10-02 20:23:33

Biden is getting a bit like Obama slurring words, mispronouncing words and not using the right words.?????

Comment by tbww | 2008-10-02 20:25:51

like I said, he drinks