Joe’s Foot/Mouth Problem * Open Thread [Video Update]
By NoQuarter on October 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM in Joe Biden, Sarah Palin
Update: I’m adding Paul’s video clip of Frank Luntz’s “focus group” results, aired last night on Fox News following the Biden/Palin debate. (Thanks, Paul. View more of Paul’s videos here.) The voters’ reactions are fascinating, and Luntz makes an important prediction at the end of the video:
Original post: This is a riot. You’ll remember that, last night, Joe said this:
“Can I respond? Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.” — Joe Biden
A Delaware newspaper blogger responded to Joe’s response.
Essentially, the headliner is this:
Closed For Many Years
Here’s the full quote:
During the debate, Joe Biden gave several Delaware shout-outs, including Wilmington’s Union Street… Maybe, I heard this wrong, or misunderstood, but I think he mentioned Katie’s restaurant…… Wilmington used to have a Katie’s restaurant - way back in the day - and it was in Little Italy, as is Union Street, but I’m almost positive Katie’s wasn’t on Union Street. And it hasn’t been Katie’s in, well, years. Maybe he said Kozy’s - as in Kozy Korner?
Gaffe Machine Joe is back, and he said something like 14 lies.
Frank Luntz’s focus group told the story. Gigantic win for Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3vyXaHhEsg
Thanks for the link. I was watching this last night and was so excited at the overwhelmingly positive reaction. Go Palin!!!
I think that maybe for this years voting for Democrats we should be known as “Liberatives.”
Susan, thanks so much! Everyone needs to see this video.
Palin showed everyone exactly why the Dems and the Obama Media is so scared of her. A fantastic performance by the Alaskan governor.
Obama and Biden are not only LYING - they’re both claiming Obama never said he’d meet with hostile world leaders WITHOUT preconditions!!
And of course Obamedia gives them a pass. It’s Germany, circa 1938 all over again.
Dem debate - July 24, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/us/politics/24transcript.html?pagewanted=print
QUESTION: In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?
COOPER: I should also point out that Stephen is in the crowd tonight.
Senator Obama?
OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration — is ridiculous.
(Hillary then schools Obama on his willingness to be used for propaganda purposes!)
Yea, Hooray!!!
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Yea, Hooray
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Hahahahahahah!!!!
That’s one of the comments.
At first I thought he meant Klondike Kate’s in Newark, DE, but that’s nowhere near Wilmington.
Someone just sent this to me and I had to pass it on. It might be old but I just saw it.
I don’t know if most of you are old enough to remember Jackie Mason but this is a great clip.
My Mom actually dated him years ago when she was a Copa girl in New York!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjDlN6clIo
The Ultimate Jackie Mason… one of my favorite New Yorkers.. Jackie Mason is great - Thanks for posting his latest Ultimate Jackie Mason…..
You can’t help but laugh but he speaks the truth - and I love it…. Thanks again… Looking forward to his next one after the debate last night…. Yippee! And yes I am old enough to remember Jackie Mason though not as old as many who were around from his New York beginnings…..
I just want to put this out there because yesterday an Obot had this story twisted as if it was Sarah’s gaffe and not Bidens-Sarah makes no gaffes and if she is accused, double check it. Exchange the names and you’ll have the truth…they are very desperate in Barky camp~
`quote from coulter-
“While Gov. Sarah Palin is being grilled on her position on mark-to-market accounting rules, the press can’t bother to ask Joe Biden if he could give us a ballpark estimate on when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president — or maybe take a stab at guessing the decade when televisions were first available to the public.
Being interviewed by Katie Couric on the “CBS Evening News,” Biden said: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’
For those of you who aren’t hard-core history buffs, Biden not only named the wrong president during the 1929 stock market crash, he also claimed a president who wasn’t president during the stock market crash went on TV before Americans had TVs.
Other than that, the statement holds up pretty well. At least Biden managed to avoid mentioning any “clean-cut, well spoken” Negroes he had met.”
~A Coulter
So far today we’ve had Dick Morris and Ann Coulter quoted here this morning. The other day way a Michelle Malkin lovefest.
Mavericks, you sirs are not.
Mavericks, you sirs are not.
You just gave away your idol, SIR.
Obot-my quote by coulter was to clarify and out your lies. Nice try in saying yesterday that it was Palins gaffe when it was Bidens. Upset much?
On the rare occasion that those three actually speak the truth they should be quoted.
It’s pretty pathetic when you’re candidate is so FUBAR that it takes Dick Morris, Anne Coulter and Michelle Malkin to get to the truth. Barky WhoSein is that bad.
You certainly don’t need to be a hard core history buff to know that Hoover was president during the stock market crash and that he did not do anything to help the people of this country. Hasn’t Joe Biden ever heard of a Hooverville? Both Obama and Biden really are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Yeah, you’d think that Biden, with all his 37 years of “experience” would know something about our country’s history? I mean, I didn’t get to go to all those lovely ivy league schools, yet I knew it was Hoover in 1929, I know about Hooverville, and I know there wasn’t television in 1929. Duh.
Then again, I don’t drink.
Joe spends a lot of time in Home Depot?
That is too funny!
Maybe he’s trying to hire illegals, LOL? I don’t know why else anybody would hang at Home Depot.
Maybe he’s hoping he’ll get rounded up in a deportation sweep and not have to be VP anymore?
I think he’s actually hoping some woman will ask him about his “hardware”…
I was really hoping Sarah would jump on that comment and ask him what he purchased last, how much it was and what interest he is paying on his credit card.
Look, everyone knew Biden was a goddamned idiot before the debate. What surprised me, though, was that he didn’t even RESPOND when Palin quoted Biden as saying Obama is unqualified and McCain is. My God…Biden knew it to be true and didn’t even throw out a defense.
Yes, that one kind of conveniently slipped by.
Yeah, I saw on one of the wingnut sites that Biden’s non-response to Obama as unqualified didn’t slip past the Pubbies, either. I’ll link it when I find it again. “Silence as acceptance” is what I took away from that diary.
Biden voted present on that one….
Here it is: http://www.redstate.com/diaries/spainishirish/2008/oct/03/biden-soiled-himself-when-he-accepted-obamas/
SOILED is the operative word. Thank God Hillary didn’t demean herself over that sorry son of a bitch.
From yesterdays MSM reaction to Palin it it seem that they don’t even try to hide the fact that they are all working for the Obama campaign.
Here we are in an other election where people try to install a puppet as president and the people who are involved are not even trying to hid the that fact anymore.
The obamabots don’t even know that they are working for toward something that they say they are against.
LOL! Say it aint so, Joe! I’m so in touch, blah blah, here are examples that show I am OUT of touch. LOL. Ya, and he kept talking about his neighborhood, but we all know he lives in a mansion…mansions tend to sit in mansion neighborhoods. uh…
Also, I want to share Sugar’s blog post:
BREAKING: British Ambassador Calls Obama Aloof
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/2008/10/breaking-britis.html
…seven-page letter from Sir Nigel Sheinwald, British Ambassador to the U.S. leaked…
You have to watch this video from Sugars post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI
This along with the Children Sing Praise of Obambi is 100% pre WWII Hitler.
At least Sen. Biden didn’t WINK at the American people. What was that about? Is she a vice-presidential nominee or a dime-a-dance girl?
Sen. Clinton has never WINKED in the middle of a debate.
Also, Sarah Palin’s general overuse of the word “also” is starting to becoming annoying also.
Oh, ya, she winked. That makes her a stripper whore.
Stop being stupid!
You need to educate yourself about what a “dime-a-dance girl” was, kat.
I recommend Google.
UBM:
You need to educate YOURSELF. If you think “dime-a-dance girls” were NOT in any way connected to entertaining men for sexual gratification. Yes, some of them became actual prostitutes. You know EXACTLY what you were saying.
It’s still STUPID to think a woman winking is a dime a dance GIRL.
What’s a man when he winks?
What’s a man when he winks?
Not to be trusted.
Ya, winking is horrible. HORRIBLE. lol.. If a woman winks she is entertaining men, or MORE (wink wink), and if a man winks, he is a devious untrustworthy liar. lol…
Stupid conversation…
Sarah winks all the time. It’s her trade mark. It means nothing but snark. She’s snarky.
Snark is fine… if she wants to be Vice President of Teh Intarwebz.
Alas, she wants to be Vice President of the United States.
Oh, yes, I do prefer my President display his the vibrating cell for all to enjoy, Sweetie.
May be next time, she should (strategically) scratch her face with her middle finger or dust off her shoulders or slap her husband on his behind on a rally stage in front of millions, or fist bump with him… (just like your American Idol, Obama running for the President of the United States). Educate me if I have missed others, I am sure I have.
O gives Hillary the finger for his cult followers to see — you don’t think that is ghetto and tacky?!
Sarah was talking about her Dad who was sitting in the audience. She was winking at him. Apparently, you can’t stand those affectionate love signs. I thought it was endearing.
Wrong, Irish. I was watching the debate. She was addressing the American people, not her dad. Come with the facts… or be quiet. Thank you.
If you cough twice that means you are a jerk; if you scratch your elbow, it means you are a thief; if you sneeze in the morning, that means you are a planning a bank robbery; if you get the hiccups, you are likely a serial killer; if you smile too often, you are a cannibal; if you wink, you are either a dime a dance girl or a liar.
Relax UBM. Even though every person with a brain say how well she performed last night and how well she connected, the MSM will start walking it back to a total disaster for her by the end of the weekend.
By Monday the MSM meme will be that Palins performance was a disaster and they will fix the polls to show McCain losing another 5 points in the polls because of that wink and will be calling her the Pamela ANderson of Politics.
You don’t have to worry Under Cover Bullshitartist, your OMessiah is safe and the world still loves him and believes everything he says.
You should go out and celebrate…Obama has this election in the bag and their isn’t a single thing the MSM won’t find too objectionable or slimey to do to ensure that.
So do yourself a favor, relax, go on vacation, get a second job maybe to pay for those 500.00 contributions you send to Barry (rofl) but don’t worry. The Next president will be Barack Obama.
Ah’m lucky they raised the minimum wage. Cause lawnmowing season is over.
UBM, your a dumb ass. She did wink at her dad and your either too stupid to comprehend what you were watching or drunk. probably both and again who the hell cares.
no…you are wrong….she was winking at her father….go see the film again.
So its against the roolz if Sarah winks affectionately at her dad, but when Joe tears up mentioning his family it shows he has emotions? There go those double standards again.
She wasn’t winking at her dad, she wasn’t talking about her dad. She winked at the camera while talking about policy.
And ’twas the wink heard round the world. She has given the spoofers something else to make fun of.
And hey, you guys… no fair pointing out that Biden’s plastic surgery makes it impossible for him to wink.
again, the truth is she winked twice (three times depending on how you define wink) during the debate and once it was at her dad and again who the hell cares.
again, the truth is she winked twice (three times depending on how you define wink, what a dumb ass discussion this is) during the debate and once it was at her dad and again who the hell cares.
Joe Biden winked at Gwen Iffil.
I think UBM is sexually aroused by Sarah Palin….
At least someone in this race does not try to pretend who she is not.
Palin winked and said ‘also’ more than you like. That’s one helluva strong case you make there buddy.
Sure is, no reason to vote for McCain/Palin because she winks and says also to much, so going to vote for the pathological liar Obama instead….yea right….lol
The oborg are such rubes, so dumb they are barely upright. It’s amazing they can breathe.
“I’d um, ah, like to um, ah, note that, er, um, I think that Sarah’s er, ah, um, winking was, um, quite sweet.”
I’m Barack, um, er, Obama and, um, I, uh, er, approved this, um, message.
(Sure, use “also” too often, and you’re unfit to be Vice-President. Stammer and hem and haw and you’re ready to be Leader of the Free World.)
Need I connect the dots for you, hadenough? Sarah Palin behaves in a manner ill-suited to the dignity of high office (winking and flirting during business hours).
And she speaks in “word salads,” indicating a mediocre intellect.
Everyone but pie-in-the-sky partisan Republicans realizes that she remains an unthinkable candidate for the vice presidency.
uhhhhhhhh, ummmmmm ahhhhhhhhh
also
ummmmmmm, ahmmmm, ihmmm
also
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ehhhhhhh
ihhhhhhhhh
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uhhhhhhhh
“Flipping the bird” as Obama did is so very appropriate for a POTUS. No double-standards there. As for “a mediocre intellect”, speak for yourself. Your opinion of Sarah Palin is worthless to anybody other than yourself.
Is Teh Intarwebz in one of those 57 states Obama talks about that are not on the map. That is a fact?
pie-in-the-sky? UBM; You couldn’t connect the dots if they were the pimples on your face.
mmm A manner ill suited for high office?
BO owns that in spades. OWN YOUR CANDIDATE.
In “spades,” huh? Okay… mm-hmm…
I thought that would be what you focused on, since you seem pre-occupied with the race card.
Sucker.
You like Clubs or Diamonds or Hearts? Did you know that BO plays poker with criminals?
Did you here that Jay-Z is doing gig’s for Obama in Florida? You know the 99 and th Bitch is not one of them in reference to Senator Clinton?
So, you think Obama was totally presidential when he flipped off Hillary? His wife calls him her baby daddy?
Keep it Klazzy.
lol
Geez, you’re just not getting any, UBM.
“Sarah Palin behaves in a manner ill-suited to the dignity of high office…” UBM
You are joking right? You forget Obama and his sly middle finger to Hillary, and brushing his shoulders off? Telling a woman reporter that it’s his cell phone vibrating on her…didn’t want her to think he was getting fresh–heh heh. Or how about him twirling around on his plane so all the woman reporters could see how his ass looks in jeans?
Gimme a break. Winking vs. fake make-believe cardboard presidential seals…lol…”dignity of high office.” LOL!
I really can not access the intelligence of any of the candidates… but their character is easier to detect.
Based on actions, track records, associations and words, I have determined that Obama lacks the moral and ethical standards to be CiC.
Everyone but high on koolaid Obamacrats realizes Obama is an unthinkable candidate for the presidency.
rev wright? Talk about unthinkable. The Precious not only sat in that hate filled church for 20 years but brought his children there.
And you really should take some time to look through biden’s record. Is that really change you can hope in?
How could you tell if Biden was winking or not, with so much egg on his face last night and so many lies to keep organized, he was too busy to do much of anything towards the American people except cry.
And had Biden not lied flat out so many times last night, especially over the restaurant visits and the bold one on Afganistan, then sincerity could be considered in his tear shedding, but as Jesse Jackson Jr stated of Hillary in NH, phoney and needs to be looked into the sincerity of those tears!
Boo Hoo Biden!
He couldn’t wink if he had wanted to with the skin around his eyes stretched so tight. Could be why he cried as well, his tear ducts were undergoing extreme stress.
B. Hussein Obama ass sniffers became annoying a long time ago also.
Also, Sarah connects with people. Normal people feel that connection and don’t think twice about a wink. Stuck up, stodgy, antisocial, emotionless weirdos are the only ones would find a wink offensive……ALSO.
That’s right Hillary didn’t blink, she kept her eyes closed. Hopefully, she will open her eyes and acknowledge what BO is all about.
Good one Hank.
Hillary knows what Obama is all about during the primary. Then when she accepted defeat, she closed her eyes and endorsed Obama. Since then, she kept her eyes close.
Hope she opens it again for the sake of the country.
That will happen when O loses the eletion, and she is no longer financially enslaved by the Party that dissed her. Then she will be able to clean out some of the deadwood.
Let’s be real. She has been on the national stage five weeks, whereas Biden has been running for president the last 20, and McCain as long, and Obama has had over a year to work out rough edges. She is not Washington, which is the point, but you know if she had as much time as the others to “prepare” she’d be as sensational as her early efforts indicate she really is at heart.
People are looking at her for the “seed” or “promise” of her. She’s the youngest of the bunch, remember, only 42. There’s a lot of promise there as well as good enough substance already.
I concur…She beat OBiden and how long has OBiden been doing this. And look all the lies he said. The best moment for me was on Afghanistan, when OBiden had to admit what Palin said was true and not what he had just said about the highest ranking General in Afghanistan.
Yes, and I loved how the VP on the Hopey-Changey party ended the night with the declaration that he would not change after all those decades in office.
Cognative Disconnect, any of you Obots! (That is assuming you have any cognative functions.)
UBM: had you been paying attention to Palin rather than be obsessed with any errors she might make, you would have seen she winked at her Dad when she was talking about him being a teacher. What a jerk.
She winked at her father MORON!
Her dad is her biggest mentor. She is who she is because of her dad. She was not taught to be weak or unimportant because she’s a female. Her dad really supported his kids without gender bias. That’s the way it used to be in larger families. Everyone had to pitch in and there were no gender roles.
What do you call Obama assslaping his wife on national TV? The Wright Bump&Grind Part Deux?
Suck it up pissant.
or french kissing biden’s wife, huh sweetie!
Ooooooooh! That was gross! Thanks for the reminder!
If my choice is between “also” and “uh,uh,aaaand”, I’ll take also every time.
At least she didn’t LEER with those overly-capped big teeth during the whole debate - ole Joe looked like The Joker on steroids.
and he had his hands ALL over Palin’s daughter…yuk!
Didn’t see anything wrong with that…let’s not get perverted like the Obats.
I trust a winking Pallin over a hoodwinked Obama any day.
On Palin and Dime a Dance Girls:
Comparing Sarah Palin to Joe Biden is like comparing a Girl Scout to a prostitute. Everybody knows that a beat up old whore ain’t gonna sell no damn cookies, but (s)he’ll make more money, though!
But we expect that, don’t we?
This debate may have been characterized as a draw by the ‘in the tank for Obama’ media, but it totally destroyed the MSM’s characterization of Sara Palin. Despite Biden’s eloquence and passionate speaking style and the MSM’s accusations that she has ‘no real experience’, Palin can definitely hold her own against an old pro without working up a sweat. I wonder if Biden thinks he underestimated Sarah Palin?
The most important thing this debate showed us is that the ‘heartbeat away’ sound byte off the table for good.
Sarah Palin demonstrated that she can stand up against one of Congress’s favorite sons and hold her own; and proved further that she can stand up to Congress itself and bring the reform we’ve been lacking there.
Way to go, Sarah. I now totally believe in you
if that is your only objection and her frequent use of the word “also” your being a bit nit picky don’t you think? Let go of Hillary and move on.
wow, you must know a lot about “dime-a-dance-girl”, lap-dance, winking, wanking, etc. Circles I move in don’t know about winking meaning wanking.
For us, winking is like a thumbs up.
You’re so much better at this than I am
She was winking at her father who was in the audience. The subject was drilling for oil in Alaska. A big topic up there.
Watching the house bailout debate on c-span.
Farmers can’t buy seed!
The elderly will lose their pensions!
Where have they been? The price of oil has been killer farmers for a couple of years now and corps have been raiding pensions for years. Why can’t supporters of giving $700 billion taxpayer dollars to failed corporate chieftains and billionaires make a reasonable case for doing so?