Open Thread * Joe Biden, The Gift That Keeps on Givin’ [Update]
By NoQuarter on October 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM in Joe Biden, Open Thread
This ad came out yesterday:
Thanks to our writer Bud White for sending me the video link. Bud has a great radio program coming up on Monday night. (We’ll have promos up for his special guest early Monday. Take my word for it: Don’t miss his show.)
Back to Joey Biden*, with this from a New York newspaper editorial:
For all the focus on Sarah Palin’s graceful performance in Thursday’s vice presidential showdown, a more significant spectacle was taking place behind the other rostrum. That’s where Joe Biden, speaking with the pompus self-importance befitting his 36 years in the Senate, told one baffling fib after another. …
Here’s the list of Biden gaffes during the vice presidential debate on Thursday night that the editors of the New York Post noted:
- It’s “simply not true” that Barack Obama said he’d meet Iran’s president without preconditions, Biden insisted.
Yet when Obama was asked if he would in a debate during the primaries, he said yes - a position Biden back then termed “naive.”
- Biden said he’s “always supported” clean-coal technology - after stating emphatically only last month, “We’re not supporting clean coal.”
- Biden asserted - repeatedly - that the US spends more money on three weeks’ combat in Iraq than it’s spent in Afghanistan since the war began.
That claim’s only remotely intelligible if he limits Afghan expenditures merely to US rebuilding efforts - and even then, he’s off by a factor of three, according to State Department numbers.
- Also on Afghanistan, Biden insisted - repeatedly - that “our commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principle in Iraq will not work” there.
That may not be an out-and-out lie, but it took supposed foreign-policy neophyte Sarah Palin to bring any context or nuance to the statement.
What Gen. David McKiernan had said was that tribal realities in Afghanistan are very different than in Iraq - requiring a different form of cooperation.
But he flatly said more troops, and more local engagement, are needed.
Sounds like a surge to us.
- Then there was what might have been the biggest head-scratcher of the night. Said Biden of the Bush administration’s supposed Middle East follies:
“When … along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”
Huh?
Assuming that Biden was referring to when, in 2005, American and French pressure helped the Lebanese people kick Syrian troops out of Lebanon, who ever thought NATO occupation of that deeply divided country was a good idea?
As if America’s NATO allies would have gone in the first place.
But hey, as long as it makes Biden sound presidential.
At some point, Americans have to wonder: Is this a fellow who should be a heartbeat away from the White House? …
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* This footnote is from the above-the-fold section, referring to “Joey Biden.”
I’ve read the great political book, What It Takes: The Way to the White House
“Joey” Biden is one of the featured politicians in that book. It was published over a decade ago — the book covers the 1992 campaign — but it captures the life stories of some of the most intriguing U.S. politicians of the 20th century in the most detailed biographies I’ve ever read on any of the primary subjects, from George Bush Sr. to Bob Dole to Michael Dukakis to Gary Hart to “Joey” Biden.
“Joey” is how Joe Biden was known when he was growing up, and pulling some incredibly dangerous, crazy stunts with his gang of friends — which author Richard Ben Cramer describes in amazing detail.
The sections of the book that focus on Biden’s first presidential run are mind-boggling. To say that Biden is “certifiable” is to be kind. Cramer, a longtime contributor to the liberal Rolling Stone, doesn’t shy away from describing what Biden’s personality is really like: Bombastic, overly bold, highly erratic, hyper-energetic, scattered, disorganized, and lacking in “good ol’ C.S.,” as my mom used to say.
If I get some time, I’ll try to type up a part of the section on Biden, but you really should buy the book. It’s great reading. And it offers up an intimate portrait of the TYPES of people who decide that THEY can be president of the United States, and what they’re willing to go through in order to get there.
The book also details the many political advisers — including Pat Caddell and Bob Shrum — who we’ve all gotten to know as TV analysts.
Update: Okay, I couldn’t resist. I went to the book’s page at Amazon, and searched the book itself for references to Biden. If you have an Amazon account and have ever purchased anything from Amazon, you can go to specific pages of this book and read that page. Here are two screenshot samplings of some of the references to “Joey Biden”:
Here are a few more snippets:
These snippets refer to the months and months that it took Biden and his frustrated advisers to get a speech written that he’d accept, as well as to Bob Shrum (who was interviewed recently by Bud White at NoQuarter Radio):
By the way, the section of the book on Gary Hart also describes the excruciating writing and rewriting of HIS big speech that Hart’s overworked, frustrated advisers kept rewriting and rewriting, each time getting bad reviews from Hart. (It’s amazing to see how these politicians really operate, behind the scenes.)
NOW: OPEN THREAD!
Biden also said the Repubs have given us the worst economic policies ever. He certainly has them by the balls on that one. So to speak.
Biden and you are both Idiots. Now piss off troll.
Same to you, pal.
You are having delusions of adequacy.
lol…Harp you are a classic…
Perry,
Please read this wall street journal interview of Bill Clinton. Bill disagrees with Biden and Obama!
Hmmmm….Perry doesn’t read…He just makes videos of himself ranting….Kinda like Barky
Narcissistic narcosis
Also France has not been a NATO member for 40 years:
updated 10:11 a.m. EDT, Tue June 17, 2008
France to rejoin NATO command
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
France to rejoin NATO’s military command, French President Sarkozy announces
French split with NATO’s military structure in 1966 amid frictions with U.S.
France set to push closer EU military cooperation when it assumes EU presidency
France has continued to contribute troops, funds to NATO missions
Next Article in World »
PARIS, France (CNN) — France will soon rejoin NATO’s military command more than 40 years after it left, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Tuesday.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has aligned France more closely with the U.S.
France was a founding member of the alliance in 1949 but it left the military structure in 1966 amid frictions with the United States. France has continued, however, to contribute troops to NATO missions and to participate in NATO’s political bodies.
The tag line should read Biden. Ready to babble? YES. Ready to lead? NO.
Perry,
Please read this wall street journal interview of Bill Clinton. Bill disagrees with Biden and Obama!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122282635048992995.html
big dawg, telling it like it is. If Hillary were the presidential nominee, we could have had a two-fer. Instead, the DNC gave us another empty suit to take over a current empty suit. Damn, that’s depressing.
Yeah, that’s not going to work. The CRA, Clinton’s repealing of Glass-Steagall, Fannie, Freddie and many on Wall St. are not GOP issues. And Bush passed Sarbox.
This is a Dem failure, sad to say. There’s no way around that fact.
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New ad from the recently formed The Committee for Truth in Politics correctly hitting Barack Obama hard on the subject of Obama’s repeated, disgraceful support of infanticide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4OPAdYiZ8
Please pass this along, favorite it, comment on the video, etc. This is a critical issue that the American electorate MUST know about. It is up to all of us here to make sure that the word is spread.
This is not an abortion issue. It is an issue of a man whose extremism both went against the entire US Senate and which led him to be the ONLY ONE of his Illinois State Senator colleagues to speak out against the bill.
Please help to ensure that voters throughout the United States learn more about the dangerous, conscienceless radical that is Barack Obama.
Thanks.
Paul-thanks for link. Will cross post.
Sen Obama’s BAIPA position is, in my opinion, just one stop away from the promotion of Eugenics…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Thanks, Athy. Please spread the word. Everybody needs to see this commercial, and learn all about Obama’s disturbing support of infanticide.
“dangerous, conscienceless radical”–
nah, I think more like a pol from a liberal district who does the politically expedient.
But then again, what was this vote gonna do for him? What the hell was he thinking.
By the way, I would like to remind everyone that H. Clinton ensured that over the counter morning after pills would be available without a prescrption by putting a hold on the nominee to head the FDA. But planned parenthood endorses Obama. Go figure.
Too simplistic. To be fair, both parties have a hand in this mess. The question is, who is most likely to turn this around?
MCCAIN/PALIN ‘08
I disagree. This is 100% the Repubs’ baby.
I think it’s high time we stopped cutting the Democrats in on the Repubs’ screw-ups.
Surely you’ve noticed that the Democrats always take the whole rap for their mistakes, but when Repubs mess up, everyone says “Well…both parties mess up.” It’s a weird double standard, in favor of the Repubs.
It’s like this. The Repubs were in control of all three branches of government from 2000-2006. They loused up everything, engineered the Second Great Depression, and are now doing what they always do–trying to spread the blame to the Democrats. Only the brain-damaged, and a few wingers, could fail to see the pattern.
this meltdown didnt happen in 2006, Perry. did you conveniently forget that the dems were in power for 2 years (2006-2008)? get rid of the hate, perry. just sayin.
Try to understand this: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not fall under any of the same rules as most home lending organizations. They were the ones that were the major players in the sub-prime loans, the house foreclosures. The Republicans can be blamed for a LOT in terms of deregulation. But the lack of regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was the fault of the DEMs, ACORN–and they gave more money to the One than you would earn in many lifetimes working as an O troll.
McCain and the Republicans did try to regulate these organizations. You haven’t been doing your homework. You remind me of the high school seniors I once taught who also never did homework but who were sure they knew everything.
Then how come this from US News and World Report?
“It’s only getting worse for John McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis. Following the news that Davis was paid $2 million over five years as president of an advocacy group set up by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the New York Times now reports that Freddie Mac paid Davis’s lobbying firm $15,000 a month up until last month. The firm was kept on the payroll because of Davis’s close ties to McCain.”
? & this is news? It was addressed a long time ago. That is Davis’ old firm, not Davis. Big deal. He separated from it 2 years ago to work for McCain, & is not getting one dime of that money or any of the firm shares. Go to McCain’s web sight & read up on it, they have been very open about that issue. Nice try at drudging the past, but that story died the same day it was published
Perry, as I said, both parties are responsible. I’m neither brain-damaged nor a winger, and anyone with an open mind and a modicum of intelligence knows that both parties are complicit for not blowing the whistle on Freddie, Fannie, and Wall Street.
Don’t be naive. And don’t make me laugh by talking down to me and others here.
Good grief Perry, do you ever get tired of carrying on about the republicans? Give it a rest. Vote McCain/Palin.
It’s obvious and unequivocal that Perry is young and new to politcs.
Hey, I was this way for McGovern. Nobody could tell me anything. I knew what was best for my fellow Americans at this age.
As my Grandfather used to say to me during this time…..My illiterate Grandson Momo, it’s gonna take a few more Chief Executive campaign rounds for you to really understand the ring.
Besides the Momo part, he was so correct….
Seymour
corection- dems had the senate from 2000-2002, did they not? just barely, but they had it.
Thank you. Can we focus for one thread on the future (where all of Obama’s accomplishments lie)? Don’t cliche me to death here. But the ground about who did what to whom has been plowed constantly. I am a hard core Democrat but I know who screwed the pooch the last two years in Congress. And the GOP? Reagan/Bush and the destruction of the middle class. But who cares? That’s over. Let’s figure out how to keep Obama from winning this election. We can form a circle and point fingers later.
You may not have done your homework. I’m mad at the Democrats, too, but they have simply not been the disaster you suggest
Keep in mind the media–which is coporate and generally hates Democrats–would never tell you anything good a Democratic Congress did.
Don’t let the media rhetoric fool you. They have screwed the pooch indeed with the Obama fiasco. But the Democratic Congress have acquitted themselves quite well–especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.
Forgive me, but they really have done a lot. Not knoweing about does not mean it didn’t happen:
Less than six months into the 110th Congress, Senate Democrats have made significant strides in passing important, common-sense legislation that reflect the priorities of the American people. After nearly a decade of Republican control, Democrats have worked to restore fiscal responsibility in Washington and pass key legislation on Iraq policy, homeland security, troop readiness, veterans’ health care, economic competitiveness, ethics reform, the minimum wage, health care, education, energy independence, stem cell research, and Gulf Coast revitalization. Democrats are committed to proving that elections do matter, and we will continue to pursue the international and domestic priorities that matter most to the American people. Together, we will take the country in a new direction.
Under Democratic leadership, the Senate has passed the following measures:
* A fiscally responsible budget: a budget that restores fiscal discipline and will lead to a surplus, while cutting middle-class taxes and funding foreign anddomestic priorities, including education, children’s health care, veterans, and our troops;
* 9/11 Commission recommendations: a bill to make America more secure by giving our first responders the tools they need to keep us safe; making it more difficult for potential terrorists to travel into our country; advancing efforts to secure our rail, air, and mass transit systems; and improving intelligence and information sharing between state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies;
* Homeland security funding: legislation that provides $1.05 billion in funding necessary to address dangerous border and transit vulnerabilities left open by the Bush Administration since 9/11;
* Support for our troops: legislation funding the President’s requests for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, including $1.2 billion in additional funding for a total of $3 billion to provide our troops in Iraq with mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles;
* Health care for wounded soldiers and veterans: legislation that provides $3 billion in supplemental funds for military health care and $1.8 billion in supplemental funds to the Department of Veterans’ Affairs to accommodate the increasing number of new veterans returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan;
* Benchmarks for Iraq: legislation that conditions U.S. economic support for the Iraqi government on its progress toward achieving key political benchmarks;
* National Guard readiness: legislation to provide an additional $1 billion to President Bush’s request for National Guard equipment needs to remedy equipment shortfalls that are compromising the quality of force training and limiting the Guard’s ability to quickly respond to natural and potential man-made disasters at home;
* Continuing Resolution: legislation providing funding for the nine remaining appropriations bills that were not completed by Republicans in the 109th Congress. In passing this legislation, Democrats stayed within budget limits, eliminated earmarks, and increased funding for national priorities, including veterans’ medical care, Pell grants, elementary and secondary education, the National Institutes of Health, state and local law enforcement, and global AIDS prevention and treatment;
* Energy Bill: landmark legislation to increase our energy independence, strengthen the economy, reduce global warming emissions, and protect American consumers.
* American competitiveness: bipartisan legislation to increase the nation’s investment in basic and innovative research; strengthen educational opportunities in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics from elementary through graduate school; and develop the infrastructure needed to enhance innovation and competitiveness in the United States;
* Ethics and lobbying reform: a bill to slow the “revolving door” for former Senators and staff, strengthen limits on gifts and travel, expand lobbying disclosure requirements, establish a study commission on ethics and lobbying, prohibit pensions for Members of Congress convicted of certain crimes, and implement reform procedures relating to earmarks and conference reports;
* Minimum wage: legislation to increase the federal minimum wage to $7.25/hour;
* Middle-class tax cuts: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for permanent extensions of the Marriage Penalty tax relief, the $1,000 refundable Child Tax Credit; the 10 percent income tax bracket; the adoption tax credit; the dependent care tax credit; U.S. soldiers’ combat pay for the earned income tax credit; and reform of the estate tax to protect small businesses and family farms;
* AMT patch: the 2008 Budget Resolution ensures that the number of taxpayers subject to the alternative minimum tax will not increase in 2007, giving Congress and the Administration time to come up with a permanent solution;
* Head Start: a bill to expand eligibility for the Head Start program;
* Stem cell research: legislation to expand the number of human embryonic stem cells eligible for federally-funded research;
* Children’s health coverage: the 2008 Budget Resolution and the 2007 Emergency Supplemental provide needed funds for the Children’s Health Insurance Program;
* FDA reauthorization: a bill to greatly improve the Food and Drug Administration’s oversight of drug safety;
* Rebuilding the Gulf Coast: legislation providing a total of $6.4 billion for victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, including $1.3 billion to complete levee and drainage repairs, $50 million to reduce violent crime in Gulf Coast states, and $110 million to repair the seafood and fisheries industries, which is vital to the region’s economic recovery;
* Army Corps reform: legislation to ensure that the Army Corps of Engineers does its job more effectively and soundly;
* Disaster assistance for small businesses: legislation providing recovery assistance for small businesses impacted by the 2005 hurricanes in an effort to revitalize the Gulf Coast economy;
* U.S. Attorney appointments: legislation ending the indefinite appointment of interim U.S. Attorneys and restoring the role of the Senate in the selection of U.S. Attorneys;
* Tax relief for small businesses: legislation providing a range of deficit-neutral tax incentives designed to help small businesses grow;
* Education and training: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for the largest increase since 2002 in funding for elementary and secondary programs; and
* Energy and environment programs: legislation increasing funding for basic science research at the Department of Energy and for energy efficiency and renewable energy programs.
http://www.apostille.us/news/democratic_accomplishments_in_the_110th_congress_leading_america_in_a_new_direction.shtml
Gee Perry can you elaborate on that?
Perry, I remember an interview with a Democratic senator a few months ago. What he said will forever be emblazened on my brain. After a republican majority for years, so much shit had been pulled by Tom Delay (remember that scumbag, ie The Hammer?)that the democrats were having a hard time figuring out just what damage was done, let alone try and fix it. Tom “the Hammer” Delay and his cronies made sure we democrats were not allowed into some senate meetings, I used to watch C-Span and I couldn’t believe that they could get away with that. When democrats wanted to hold hearings we were delegated to basement rooms with little or no MSN coverage. Pissed me off. The money quote from this new senator was “Every tree we bark up has a cat in it.” Granted Pelosi lost me when she said impeachment was off the table and now that they endorsed their version of Bush, they can go screw themselves. All I can hope for is an Obama loss followed by a major house cleaning in the democratic party, starting with Barky.
Barky,
I hope the same.
Yep Strawberry…Texas is a mildly fascist state as a result…No Kidding…I can’t even type that name…
2 wrongs don’t make a WRIIIIGHT
THE CURRENT DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS LOST ALL ILLUSION OF MORAL SUPERIORITY…NUF SAID
Perry why don’t you at least be honest? We all know your heart belongs to Barack. Just come out and admit it.
If I am wrong then suck it up and say I support, _____________ (insert name), but man up to who you support.
The finger pointing at this point is disruptive. Is your intention? Trying to make a problem between Democrats and Republicans? It is not working. Patriotic Americans are coming together like we did after 9/11. The enemy then is the enemy now.
“Allah is our goal; the Messenger is our model; the Koran is our constitution; jihad is our means; and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our aspiration.”
“It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.” Hasan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
We have a man running for office now, who after 9/11 said he would stand with the Muslims. This same man and The DNC had a member of the Muslim Brotherhood as a keynote speaker at the DNC.
In written memos found when some of the Muslim Brotherhood was arrested, they stated “we will destroy America from the inside.
Another terrorist organization Hamas, was featured in a church handout, at the church where Obama attended for 20 years. Hamas is a direct arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.
How much more explicit does it have to be? So this childish partisanship is past old. You are either with us or against us.
Your vote is yours and freedom of speech still is here, but be honest about your loyalty. Time is too short and this election is too important.
“At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war.” From Vienna Gate
May we never forget the souls lost on 9/11
did they seriously have a member of the Muslim Brotherhod speak at the DNC??!!! somebody confirm this. that is scary.
One would think that after all those roll call votes in Congress, Nancy would have known how to hold one at the Democratic Convention.
Poor Perry, his anti-repub hate is blinding him to the bigger disaster called obama. sad actually.
Benny, I promise you I know Obama is the bigger disaster. Don’t miss the point. This is about not throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Perry-
I agree.
Thanks for the links
I am a Core Dem, I can’t tolerate the party’s actions during the primaries. I see Soetoro-Obama for what he is, a Chicago thug, in the words of Rev Manning, “A MACDADDY” playing the brothers and sisters. In reality a puppet controlled and compromised. I also believe the corruption in both parties is way out of controll and the MS America is suffering from these crooks. Both parties are to blame. Its time for some real leadership, someone who will stand for the working people of this country. Our party dumped her for this phoney messiah. I will vote McCain, if Mrs. Clinton wants to run, all the way, 2012!
Here, here!
He–the VP of the Hopey / Changey One ended the night by declaring that he wouldn’t change. Didn’t that give you pause? Do you know how long he’s been in Washington?
Maybe asking you to think logically might be too hard on you. You’re still under the influence of Kool-Aid.
To Perry Logan:
So you are telling me that Jimmy Carter’s was a Republican Administration? That is a new one to me.
Carter will be surprised, too.
Carter is very stupid but he is not evil, which distinguishes him from Obama.
Agreed, Carter meant well I believe. He was just in way above his head. Imagine the damage that could be done to this country by a President who actually meant harm.
Republicans have given us this bad economy? I think the Democrats are in charge lately. And I think that things have gotten very much worse in the last two years. And I am certain that Dodd, Frank, Schumer, etc are all Democrats and all defended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as these GSEs pumped the credit market full of bad loans.
But McCain tried to regulate the GSEs. Biden tried to paint the problem we have now as the result of deregulation that McCain supported. In fact, it was Democrats on the Banking subcommittee that voted — by a party-line vote — to block regulation in 2005. Republicans were in the majority, but lacked 60 votes to bring cloture. The regulation died because of Democratic obstruction.
And when you think about all the jerks (Republican and Democrat) who pooh-poohed the problem with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that will end up costing us a few trillion, remember that they also say there is no problem with our current Social Security system that is 20 to 25 times the size of this.
Unfortunately, Dodd (D-CT), Schumer (D-NY), Frank (D-MA), Waters (D-CA) and Bennett (R-UT) are in safe seats. We’re stuck with them. In fact, some of these guys are going to dictate how the bailout money is spent and will shape whatever reforms take place.
Unless, of course, we elect a couple of reform-minded mavericks as President and VP.
Please spread this video on Obama`s constant changing position for Iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyZeDUlmcNw
Thank you, Harp! I know someone who definitely has to see Obama’s flip-flops on Iraq.
That is a heck of a video, Harp. I’m going to try to do a post on it, and bring in the real story behind his supposedly courageous speech against the Iraq war in 2002 + look up what Larry and others have written here. We have a treasure trove of stories in our archives here. Wish we could show this video you found + some of our stories to every American voter. The media aren’t doing their job at all.
Did Obama actually make that speech? All we have is the Obama campaign’s word for it (along with a re-enactment). In summary, there is no reliable evidence that the speech happened in 2002. No recordings. No newspaper reports. Nothing.
Susan UPC I loo forward to your article!
Harp-EXCELLENT link. Thanks. I will crosspost
Make it and we will send it out. I promise to send it to all my contacts. Many will send it on as well. If 95% of us do this it will be seen by thousands soon.
I spent the afternoon as a volunteer at the Republican headquarters. They are having a problem keeping enough signs. The people making the calls were both men and women young and old and the early shift was almost all teen age boys.
They have 250,000 signs back ordered. The local Republican office bought theirs and are selling them and people are buying hats, t shirts and it is wonderful.
One of the ladys is from Venezuela’s. She told me that she has been a volunteer several times and she has not seen this out pouring of support, never. As soon as people heard me say McCain, they didn’t wait for any question it was McCain we are voting for McCain. Many told me how afraid they were of Obama.
I wish everyone of you would go down to Republican headquarters and help. There is an on going effort to prevent fraud here. And to actually take action made me feel so much better.
They gave us each a cell phone and a list of names. All no working numbers are flagged. Or other ones like this one. It was a NC number attached to a NC man, who had never lived or registered in Florida. Anything suspicious is flagged and then sent to the state capitol.
OMG you should have heard them all laugh when I introduced them to PUMA. They had never heard of us.
I have never seen so many people lie in all my life as I have seen dems. On fox just now lying about Obama and Ayers…I find dems more guilty of lying and misleading than repub’s.
Throw the Bums Out…and restore the Party built by FDR
When this election cycle is over with, we need to preform a major purge or fight to retake our party from the extreme left-wing nuts.
Doesn’t anyone do a little homework before they get in front of a camera anymore? So talking out your ass is an acceptable political strategy? Unless he’s trying to lose…damn.
I find it strange that the media isn’t jumping on Joey’s choked up moment in the debate…when Hillary did it, the media literally played that snippet over & over & over & called her unfit to be a President because she gets emotional…oh wait…my mistake…
its only ok if a *MAN chokes up….
*Or votes for the Iraq war…
What a hypocrite NoObama is!
Exactly right. I even heard Keith Obama Olbermann praise Biden’s “gentuine, emotional moment.” Jackass.
Up is down, down is up, since the Dem Party has been hijacked by radical freakazoids.
Nooooobama. Not ever.
Exactly right. I even heard Keith Obama Olbermann praise Biden’s “gentuine, emotional moment.” Jackass.
His comment on Hillary crying was: IT CRIES.
Jackass? More like asshole.
I recently saw that my favorite thorn in the side of Reagan, Pat Schroeder, who also was totally ridiculed for crying when she bowed out of the nomination race, talked about Hillary’s crying moment. She said she was happy to see it. That was because it made her seem more human, and it didn’t seem to hurt her as much at the time as it had hurt her (Pat Schroeder).
Schoeder’s comment, true to her form, was that it’s still a problem though. When women cry, they are considered “emotional” (a bad way to be). When men cry, they are called, “sensitive” (a good way to be). This proved true with Biden. As a kind woman, I am giving him a break and saying he was sincerely “emotional” about an “emotional” topic. And that’s normal.
Susan -
When Biden was name as vp candidate, morning Joe mentioned a must read book that will tell you alll you want to know about running for president and joe Biden. I was doing other things at the time and didn’t catch the title or author - but I’ll bet “What It Takes: The Way to the White House” by Richard Ben Cramer is the book they were talking about. Thanks. I’ll be heading to B&N this weekend for a copy.
Glad Joe Scarborough mentioned it — he’s a sharp guy. (Wish that show wasn’t on 3 a.m to 6 a.m. my time.) The book is truly fascinating. It’s also a huge book. But, since it’s segmented, by subject (from daddy Bush to Hart to Biden, etc.), you can easily pick it up — or skip ahead. It’d been a while since I’d read it, so I skipped through to the Biden sections. Just mind-boggling.
The title of this article should have been, Joe Biden, The Gaffe That Keeps on Giving.
Biden one heartbeat away from the presidency. thats so scary.
It’s October! WTF! I can see the whites of their eyes! Do we have ammo in our magazines? our powder is dry but we better damn well use it starting now! If there is real deal dirt on The Obommunist we have to start using it NOW! what are we waiting for? November??? Tapes! fake birth certs! Obama campaigning for Odinga Video! Indonesian citizenship proof? Does this badly needed ammo exist or are we all being taken for chumps! Are we Waiting for Macain Palin to be 10 points down in the polls??? Anything getting released needs several days if not weeks to do damage and time is running out! This campaign cannot be won on issues it has to be run on personalities and character. An asymmetrical character assassination campaign against Obama will win the day attacking Biden is a waste of time he can destroy himself with ease! Unlock the ammo boxes! We are waiting for orders! ! want to be able to say: HUAA!
Amen!
Starting last night, it seems that reports in the MSM are saying that starting Monday or Tuesday, McCain is taking the gloves off. I thought why Monday or Tuesday?
So thoughts are:
early voting? Barfy knows what is coming and wants few to change their minds?
The repubs knew Sarah could kick butt in the debate and redeem herself and now they bring out the big guns which puts her in the background on a positive note?
McCain/Palin are very calm. They have to know something!
I am keeping the faith!
Why Monday or Tuesday? Maybe to psych out Obama before the debate? Just a thought . don’t know.
An asymmetrical character assassination campaign against Obama will win the day…
You’re a slick one, blog force one. I have a feeling you realize that an “assymetrical character assassination campaign” has been in effect ever since the “whitey tape” jumped the species barrier from World Wide Web to Fox News.
Meanwhile, the latest national polls… with one month left to go:
Gallup Tracking: OBAMA +8
Hotline/FD Tracking: OBAMA +7
Rasmussen Tracking: OBAMA +6
If McCain hasn’t turned it around yet… how can he? Does Sarah Palin have enough Visine and lip gloss to wink ‘n’ smile into reality a turnaround in the Pennsylvania numbers?
***sexist troll***
ubm….that comment could only come from a sexist troll jerk.
Right Change - Fighting TV Spot
I haven’t seen this one on TV yet but it is a good ad and I do see a lot of their ads here.
I saw this one on TV yesterday, I’m in PA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP7QbjjJi6A
Not here yet but I am in a red state that will stay red, that may be why.
30 yr dem, Cynthia- EXCELLENT ads-especially the one shown in PA. Ad nails the main issues and players in less than 30 seconds. Superb.
I saw this one on TV yesterday and I’m in AR. Can’t remember if it was on CNN while I was watching Lou Dobbs (the ONLY thing I watch on CNN) or while I was watching Fox.
I think I heard it, or one very like it, in Colorado. I wasn’t by the t.v. and couldn’t get there in time to watch.
“Joey” get a pass by the MSM. He outright lied, inflated and exagerrated his own record, made-up accomplishments for Barky, maliciously distorted McCain’s achievements, and re-wrote history in order to make him and Barky the leading characters in some fictional Tom Clancey novel set in Lebanon. WTF!
Biden lied all through the debate. The media will not say a thing. He also said in front of our military he was forced down is Afganistan by gunfire.
NOT TRUE. But, the media figures since Joey lies about everything it is okay. We will just pay attention and twist and distort everything the repubs say.
Perry give it a rest you partisan Hack. Everyone is to blame. Fannie and Freddie are at the heart of this mess and that is ALL the dems. Republicans fought for years and Bill Clinton fought to tighten up on F and F. Bill Clinton says dems are at fault for this. A dem rep from alabama admits he was wrong and wishes other dems would also admit it.
Your constant partisan bullshit is so annoying and false.
Yes repubs are at fault for alot of things. But the credit mess is you favorite Boys in blue’s making.
Face facts perry.
Even Goerge Bush tryed to pass reguation on Fannie and freddie. In 05 Alan Greenspan warned this would happen as did John McCain. All of Bush’s sec. of treasury warned of this.
You can have your own opinion perry but not your own facts. Bush has been a buffoon. But he was right on this and he blew the whistle nearly 5 yea