Obama/Ayers Update: New York Times’ Shane defends himself on Politico.com
By Steve Diamond on October 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM in Annenberg Chicago Challenge, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Media Bias, Media Handling of Story, New York Times, Obamedia, Weather Underground, William Ayers
Apparently the New York Times does not have enough news print to get the story right the first time so they have been emailing me and posting on the blogosphere in order to shore up their faulty story about the Ayers/Obama link.
I responded earlier to an email from Scott Shane, author of the story, by updating my first post on this here.
This afternoon, Shane told Politico.com the following in response to my post on his story:
As for Steve, he was great in outlining his theory — that Obama and Ayers had a relationship going back many years, to the 1980s, and that Ayers therefore must have proposed Obama for the board. He looked at the same letters I’d seen showing Ayers (and one of the two co-organizers, Anne Hallett) had discussions early on with Annenberg folks about the need for a board. Unfortunately, his theory is wrong.
What Steve didn’t do was talk to the people involved. As I report, Deborah Leff and Pat Graham give a credible account of how they chose Obama, and I have no reason to think they’re lying. Moreover, if Obama only met Ayers when Obama joined the Annenberg project, it seems hardly likely that he would have pushed for Obama’s appointment. On the other hand, since Obama already served on Leff’s board, it makes perfect sense that she would propose him.
Let me explain the facts to Mr. Shane, once again, as I did in his lengthy interview with me:
1) Ayers and Obama were both active in the successful campaign in 1988 to establish a teacher/principal watchdog group, Local School Councils, in the Chicago public schools. The LSC’s have been called a form of teacher-bashing by union activists.
2) Ayers conceived of and led the process that resulted in a $49.2 million grant from the National Annenberg Challenge.
3) As the formal agent of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative (CSRC), the working group that applied for the grant, Ayers received an inquiry in November, 1994, from Vartan Gregorian, President of Brown University about the board selection process.
4) Ayers responded by describing his personal role and noted that Patricia Graham, another foundation head, had agreed already to serve.
5) Another exchange of letters between Gregorian and MacArthur Foundation President Adele Simmons also confirms Ayers personal role in the board selection process.
6) If Ayers was not involved it would have been a violation of his fiduciary obligation to the CSRC.
7) Shane says he spoke to Deborah Leff, then head of the Joyce Foundation, about the Ayers role but she did not tell him that Ayers had no involvement.
The board selection process for the CAC began in November of 1994, at least, and the board first formally met in March. Obama joined Leff’s Joyce Foundation in November. Even if Leff had a formal responsibility for the selection of CAC board members, which she did not, it strains credulity to suggest that in a few weeks she would have formed the basis of an opinion on Obama such that she could convince Graham that he should not just join the CAC board, but lead it, despite his youth, lack of experience in education, and lack of contacts to raise the $110 million in matching funds the CAC would have to raise.
In addition, Leff would have had to convince Graham to join her in secretly appointing Obama to the board without discussing the idea with the individual with formal legal responsibility for the selection of the Board, Bill Ayers.
9) Of all the people Shane spoke to, only Graham, whom Ayers helped select for the CAC board, stated to Shane that Ayers had no involvement in the Obama selection. But that quote was not put in the Times story, despite its obvious importance. We do not know how Graham explains the contradiction between her recollection, 14 years later, and the written contemporaneous record of letters between Gregorian and Ayers and Gregorian and Simmons that make Ayers’ role in the board selection process clear.
In closing, let me note that I don’t want to weigh down this post with a recitation of the actual agenda carried out by the CAC. Readers can find plenty on this blog about that, including Obama’s role in backing Ayers effort to shore up the teacher bashing Local School Councils and the hundreds of thousand of dollars doled out to Ayers and his ex-SDS comrade Mike Klonsky’s anti-teacher effort, the Small Schools Workshop.
But suffice to say that the record of the actual work of the CAC demonstrates a consistency between the views of Ayers and those of Obama on their efforts during the “Chicago School Wars” against Mayor Daley. I have explained in my work here that I view this as a fundamentally authoritarian agenda aimed at undercutting the democratic power of elected union officials and government representatives.
Thus, the suggestion by the Times that Ayers was an “ex-radical” is mistaken.
Let me explain to anyone who is missing the connection between what Steve Diamond Wrote in this excellent article and the AP article referenced in the first post:
First Read again what Mr Diamond has written above
now consider these point that Steve makes:
This is DAMNING EVIDENCE AGAINST the meme being pushed that Bill Ayers was just a guy in Obama’s neighborhood.
Its is clear that Obama would have had a fair amount of involvement with Ayers.
Once the flood gates open more questions will be raised.
It is not in the interest of the Obama campaign to let this get out there.
The put the lid on this in the Debate with Hillary Clinton where he said He is Just some guy in my neighborhood who did bad stuff when i was 8 years old.
He claimed plausible deniability and then went so far as to claim non involvment with Bill Ayers.
HE LIED!
How do you get this story to die before it hurts you?
Well if you are the obama campaign you attack from both sides.
You know your opponents want this to get out.
You know that investigation is about to hit since it was just recently that you were forced to relent and let them look at the Annenburg Challenge Documents.
So WHat do you do?
You get an In the Tank News Paper aka The New York Times to write a fluff piece saying NOTHING TO SEE MOVE ALONG. But you make sure to have that paper talk to the people involved and then claim that they confirmed NOTHING TO SEE even though its a blatant LIE!
Clearly disturbing. Read the whole article but put a pillow on the floor between your feet so your jaw doesn’t take damage when you read it.
SO thats the first prong, you get your friends in the Obama Media Campaign Division to Lie for you as a plausible
campaign press releaseNews Story Investigative Journalism Piece.SO what else do you need to do?
YOu play the race card!
Why because nobody wants to be called a racist and it shuts people up.
Enter the AP with their story about how Palin and the McCain campaign are trying to stoke racial tensions by implying that Obama is a Terrorist.
ASSOCIATED PRESS ACCUSES PALIN McCAIN OF TRYING TO INCITE RACIAL HOSTILITIES
Now its pretty hard to connect them, terrorism to racism that is so follow along carefully. They spell it out for your clearly so even an r-tardpublicans understand what they are trying to say (lets not accuse the AP of being nuanced).
See what the second Prong of the attack to quell any discussion of Ayers is attempting to do?
Palin mentions Ayers -> Terrorist -> Ameircans are so dumb they think all terrorists are Dark Skinned Muslims -> Obama is Dark Skinned -> Palin is referring to him being black!!! -> Not like WHite People -> RACISM!!!!!!!!
Thats the logic they are using.
Whats the purpose? To set up the meme so they can skip all the stuff in between and basicly shoot a connon over the McCain Campaigns bow warning them that if they bring up Ayers they are going to be accused of racism.
So Nothing to see, only racists would mention this hopefully puts this issue to rest before it gets traction because in the Obama Campaigns world, the worst thing you can be is a racist and who in their right mind wants to be called a racist?
Its the Ultimate Con Job and the MSM is In On It!!
But because the Obama Campaign has played the race card so many times, against Bill, Against Hillary Against Hillary supporters, against the McCain Campaign 3 times they cant say it themselves. McCain called em on it earlier.
And they can’t get campaign surrogates to do this because campaign surrogates then just get asked more questions.
THey need the MSM to push both sides against the middle under the guise of Investigative Journalism saying nothing to see and Racially sensitive journalism saying OMG Palin McCain Racists from Talking about those Dark Skinned Terrorists and trying to SCAREZ YOU!
Do they believe American Voters are all REALLY THAT DUMB???
Good god i hope we don’t find out that they are!
Now ask yourself again, who would the NYT and the AP push like this if they arent in the tank?
Why would they have to go and defend their work at politico if they actually did their job to begin with?
Why are they trying to desperately to cover up Ayer’s Radicalism if Obama was not so heavily involved with him and doesnt think like him?
and this brings us full circle right back to the very beginning of the excellent article written here by Mr Diamond:
Get it?
It was a foundation principle in the Obama campaign that any criticism would be met with charges of racism, which as we see here can be manufactured out of anything or nothing. The only reason we haven’t seen more of it before now is that Wright flipped the race card the other way. Before the election I’m counting on Wright being brought back into the picture. If not then team Obama was right and America will be too intimidated by race and will yield to it.
Yeah but in the primaries against Hillary they atleast allowed the Surrogates to start pushing the meme first.
Now the in the tank media is starting it up before Donna Brazille and James Clyburn even get on TV!
OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Priority: Normal
We would rather have someone like palin, then someone who is like obama and his
thugs, all the trasing of palin isnt going to work…we are going to get the
word out about obama and his plans to redistibute the white folks money to the
blacks and muslims..they will not pull off their scam…and obama , has been
known to take crack , for one he has admitted it, for two larry sinclair said
they did it together,in a press conference that no one hears about…Ill take
the risk of mccain rather than to have a known druggy, and bidens a drinker, at
the hot buttons, and this should be told,,,obama can stand with his
muslims,,,tell him he is not qualified to be a senator let alone potus, i would
like him to be drug tested by an independent source,,via his hair to see the
last time he took drugs, he often acts like he is on them
I think the McCain Campaign should confront this head on: “The Obama Campaign has been using this ploy since the primaries to deflect any and all criticism or examination of Senator Obama’s record or associations. Watch for it. ANY challenge is met with this charge.”
This AP writer must be called out immediately.
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Steve, thank you so much for your hard work. I just made a video up of Sarah’s remarks yesterday that includes extensive linking to corroborate the Ayers/Obama relationship. I linked to 3 of your pieces.
I’m going to repost my introduction to that video that I posted in the last thread. Here is the full post:
Below is a link to the remarks made yesterday by Sarah Palin which connected Barack Obama with Obama’s longtime friend and mentor Bill Ayers. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who was involved with the seditionist Weather Underground organization that bombed both the Pentagon and the US Capitol.
What makes my version of this footage both a must-see and a very valuable resource going forward is that I have inserted 5 video link annotations into the production itself and I have put 19 links into the video description section. These links provide comprehensive, detailed visual and written evidence of the longstanding and intimate relationship between Senator Obama and radical anti-American Bill Ayers.
Please take a look at the video when you get the chance. Favorite it and email it to those that you know so in the days to come all will have a one-stop location to answer the lies and half-truths coming out of the Obama campaign and its media arms as they try to innoculate Obama against his dangerous, extremist associates. These long-term mentors and friends of the Illinois pol expose Obama’s stunning lack of judgment, his willingness to become close with those who hate our great republic and Obama’s own nearly-unfathomable radicalism.
Amidst two wars and the constant threat of a second 9/11, America’s electorate deserves to know exactly what Barack Obama and his dangerous associates are all about as it prepares to vote in one of the most important elections in our country’s history.
Thank you, and here is the link to the video:
“Sarah Palin hits Obama for palling around with terrorists”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQmnRrdeXXA
Excellent, Paul. Both a good video and very good links to Steve’s well researched articles.
Way to go!
Obama’s links with bad boys connected to the Bush Admin. are as hair-raising, if not more outrageous than the Ayers relationship. It’s strange that no one in the McCain/Palin camp is talking about these characters, because they should disqualify him from contention. The following article takes a look under the Obama carpet.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/OctoberSurprise.html
Sorry- factcheck- but the only thing I like about this link- was Pat’s cartoon. It is old news and probably an old article updated- since it is states facts about Palin that are old. Secondly, it refers to Obama being like Bush. NO way in hell is that true. Obama is a Liberal and the most liberal in the country. Bush is a conservative and nothing less. I think this link article lacks facts!
we also need to get the tv to start showing his supporters gaddafis videos, and the rest of the communists who support obama, not to mention larry sinclair, and the remarks obama has said that we should be have as the rest of the world tells us too, his remarks in oregon, that we eat to much and use suvs and ac,,while the porta potties are placed on the cops graves,,and also hit him hard with his bitter white gun toting speeches,,keep up the reports on how obama has voted to tax even the poor and how obama has been trying to get the white folks to pay 777 billon in slave reparations..since 2001,,and you are worried about wall st? think people better start worrying about govt st,,,with all these corrupt libs in control,,,and wanting the white middle class to pay for everything, while pretending they all of a sudden care! wake up people dodd and conrad and the rest should be brought up on charges, of not protecting the american people and knowing full well what they were doing, just in time for their campaigns…what better way to get votes? raise the price of oil and make the economy go south…
Tish,
Yes lets do GET THE MEDIA, but how?
The NYT played into the McCain Camps hands on this white washed article.They tried to put it out and put this issue to rest but it backfired. It is all over Cable plus the internet and now it is being discussed so the truth can come out about Ayers and it will, also watch for Sarah to bring up Rezco and Alinsky and others.
Don’t hold your breath on Sinclair though,
that guy is a real nut and no one will touch him, certainly not the McCain campaign.
Lets give Larry E for effort though, can’t hurt.
Sarah is McCain’s best weapon ever, she will carry the messages and get the coverage regarding all of those questionable characters, I am holding my breath waiting for the “Whitey Tape” with Michelle alongside Louis Farrakhan bad mouthing Bill Clinton. I am told it exists and is close to being brought forth. Any of you remember the article where Michelle Obama said “I want to rip out Bill Clintons eyeballs”
I have it saved if anyone wants to see it.
I want to see the article about o-no-bama’s wife….
Agree…Paul does Great work…over 64,000 hits on that one Paul…I salute You
QUI TACET CONSENTIT
HE WHO IS SILENT…CONSENTS
I think the NYT and others are missing a huge point. I don’t care whether Ayers personally advocated for Obama in that post or not. The fact is Obama took the post and he did interact with Ayers and he did say he “he’s just some guy in my neighborhood”. That was a brazen distortion of the truth. The fact is he was and has been involved with both Ayers and his wife most of his political career. He knew and knows their past. If he were principled, he would have refused to be involved with them or what they do and he would “be on the record throughout his career distancing himself from them”. He does not distance himself until he is called on it in this presidential race. Too little too late. If he were principled he would not have launched his political career in their living room. His associations with them are repugnant and they show a man who is willing to use whoever and whatever he can to get ahead in politics. The other part of this that NYT and others are overlooking is that the political agenda written by Ayers and embraced in this faux attempt to reform Chicago public schools wasted millions of valuable dollars on political hackery through community organizations instead of spending those dollars on truly improving student learning for kids who desperately needed that break in their lives. Does not anyone get that this kind of leadership and political manipulation is exactly why education reform for minority populations and particularly AA populations in inner city schools has gone nowhere despite millions if not billions of dollars to change things. Why? Because the money has gone to community activists paying them high salaries for little to no result. Think about the lost opportunities for those students damnit.
There is no “there” there with Ayers. However if people are are going to try this tact it opens McCain up to Keating 5 and his real nefarious assocations,Liddy, Abramoff to name a few. Then we have Palin’s witch doctor/preacher and her AIP contacts. They are desperate and everyone knows it.
Oh there is a lot more there there than you want to admit sweetie.
get your facts straight McCain was cleared in the Keating 5 thing.
Abramoff? lol! McCain was key to making sure that Abramoff ended up in prison! And the Keating reference is hilarious. That’s the only thing they can use against McCain–an association from 30 years ago, and he was cleared of wrongdoing. Talk about desperate.
Yea, Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Auchi, Meeks, Pfleger–nothing to see here. Just a coincidence. Keep moving folks.
Good old Michelle worked with Mrs. Ayers-Dohrn for heaven’s sake. The Ayers hosted a fund raising party for him. Does anybody else have casual acquaitances that do that kind of thing? Guess OB didn’t even interact with Bill while he was at the party at Bill’s house. My, my they must be mightily worried about the truth of all this to be putting these articles out there now.
wow! shocking!
/snark
Obama Campaign has played the Race Card first too many times this campaign season, they needed their friends in the In The Tank Main Stream Media to play it for them first this time so they could claim their hands are clean if it becomes an issue.
Barack Obama - WORST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER!!!
Oh, please. If Obama cared anything for blacks, he’d never have funned Illinois tax dollars to Rezko, while people were freezing to death in his unheated tenements. Nope, blacks and racism only matter to Obama when it benefits him and his election.
Yes, I agree. I think it’s Obama’s failure to bring any improvement in these efforts that is the larger story. In fact, the school improvement effort finally became so bad and so political that Mayor Daley stepped in and put the system in his own hands. I can’t think the mayor would have done that unless there were REAL problems with the group that Obama headed,
AP are as bad as the Huffington post. One-sided and pathetic.
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Lord if they go the Palin words are racist route they will be lucky to have anyone vote for Oblahma in Nov. Actually I hope they do because it would hurt them badly in NC. I like when the MSM now goes the racist route because with NC having one of the largest military bases in there state with people from all kinds of backgrounds etc…people who just became citizens, stuff like that turns people off badly because we cant judge people solely based on “color”.
Thats the quickest way to get your rank taken, UCMJ action, and your money gone. They take things like that seriously. So believe me,to got through that and it turns out to be false and even though it eventually gets thrown out, the fact that someone accused you will RUIN your military career. That goes for any false charge. You can literally lose everything. I have seen CSM’s, E8’s get screwed over because someone made false claims. Despite it not being the truth, who wants to give you a command with a “rumor” circulating to that degree?
I hope they keep it up. Idiots think this will make people believe it. Yes, NC does have a high AA percentage. But those fools never research exactly were there at or what they do. Look at the NC primary Map between him and Clinton. Obama WILL NOT WIN NC. But its nice to watch them spend there money and try.
I saw this AP distributed article penned by Douglass K. Daniel on Drudge, and was really perplexed by the logical leap the author takes in reaching the desired concept of “racism.” Let’s see. the author admits that Palin’s invocation of terrorists was a “reference to Obama’s relationship with William Ayers,” an aging upper middle-class white professor. But since the terrorists involved in 9-11 were dusky in hue, Daniel feels justified in characterizing Palin’s remark as racist in intent. He states that Palin’s racism is in a “racially tinged subtext”–meaning it was not actually there, but could be discerned plainly enough through his special Oborg glasses.
When a huge once impartial news agency like AP shamelessly lends its imprimatur to nonsense like this, it is clear that the MSM will provide little obstacle to the rise of fascism in the USA.
Hmmmm….any scrutiny of Barky = racism…It is Gettin OLD…The good REV. Manning sees Wriiiight Through it
What about the fact that William Ayers and all of the Weathermen group were white, what’s this got to do with racism.
Another batch of bullshit!!!
Jerimiah, you are my favorite blogger at this site!!
Here is the political impact of the Associated Press story. Its a big help to McCain. Any day that the media or the Obama campaign is talking about anything but the economy is a good day for McCain. And now with Sarah Palin’s rehabilitation after the debate, she can dominate the headlines by being the “pitbull with lipstick” biting and holding on to Obama’s ankles.
Thank you, Associated Press, for taking the bait!!
You got5 that WRIIIGHT…McCain is in control of the subject matter…Aaaaaand Barky is spinnin…
when the head of AP wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago critical of Obama, the entire MSM came down on them. Since then, everything coming out of AP is critical of McCain/Palin.
By the way, this is the clip from Saturday Night live that you should all watch. the media is playing the Tina Fey Palin skit. But this one on the housing crisis is much better. If the media picks it up, it should be good for McC:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/c-span-bailout/727521/
I’ll see your Ayers and raise you a Joe Vogler, founder of the AIP.
Here’s a direct quote from Vogler who was murdered in a plastic explosives sale gone bad:
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government…and I won’t be buried under their damn flag…
I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
The “first dude” was a registered member of this group, AIP, from 1995 to 2002 only changing his registration when Sarah began her run for public office.
Sarah admits to attending their 2000 Convention. She, as Governor, welcomed them to their 2006 Convention with the following taped speech:
“Your party plays an important role in our state’s politics. I’ve always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well. I share your party’s vision of upholding the constitution of our great state… So I say good luck on a successful and inspiring convention. Keep up the good work, and God bless you.”
Yes she did.
As governor she is governor of all the people in her state. Not just the people she agrees with.
Besides aren’t you left wing nutjobs saying alaska is a little forzen shithole and who cares about it and that its governor is a moron baby factory??
What do you care if some guy who was the leader of some group of people who never Blew Up our Pentagon or Capital Or NYC Police Headquarters or KILLED PEOPLE as a result of those bombs has to say about that frozen wasteland anyway?
Its not like he said GOD DAMN AMERICA or THE GOVERNEMENT CREATED AIDS TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE while sarah was sitting in his church for 20 years…DID HE????
YOU ARE A F#CKING HYPOCRIT!
Oh Please. Staten Island threatens every so often to secede from NYC. We still love Staten Island. It’s got that great Ferry.
This is so silly. Who cares about Alaskan Succession? Sarah Palin is a great governor.
They worked together on The Woods Fund from 1993 to 2002. They worked together, ‘both’ were chairmen on The Annenburg Challenge from 1995 to 2002. He launched his campaign from Ayer’s home.
They were working together when Ayers stepped on the American flag and said what he said about not doing enough.
So now we’re supposed to believe two chairmen never talked? Did any work together? And just how do they explain that Obama doled out money to the Annenburg Challenge from the Woods Fund? He just gave money to a stranger that he happened to work with…
The Real Barack Obama has it all tied in together along with other’s he’s tied too. The used his own resume to put it all together.
http://tinyurl.com/3wsvut
fascinating how much effort they put into clearing their boy.
But who is holding NYT’s leash?
I have one theory
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/whos-holding-the-medias-leash/
Any one else see this?
I’m flipping through channels and
see Donkey Brazile on CNN.
She said, and I quote,
“Barack Obama has absolutely NO
connection with William Ayers.”
WHAT????
This was about 8:45am pst if you
look for it.
Unbelievable.
Now that LYING YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!!!!
I wonder what her MAMA taught her about that just like i wondered what her MAMA taught her about Stealing Delegates Votes in the primaries.
It appears the Obama campaign’s strategy is to lie about Ayers and dismiss it at “swiftboating” because they know the MSM will cover for them.
San Francisco Chronicle:
Sanchez, the Obama spokesman, said the Annenberg public-private partnership was founded with the help of a Republican governor to improve Chicago schools, and that Obama and Ayers were never associates in that work.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4jqx62
Steve, why don’t you ask Politico if you can publish this story there?
2 other points:
Mayor Daley said they were “friends.” Someone gave that link in a comment here yesterday.
And Michelle Obama and Dohrn were friends and colleagues back in the 80s.
Don’t forget that Axelrod said their kids go to the same schools and that’s how they know each other.
Ayers kids in their late 20’s and barky’s 6 & 9 yr olds go to the same schools.
Exactly!
Michelle worked at Sidley Austin and so did Bernardine Dohrn. Dohrn worked there till ‘88. Michelle did her summer interns there in 86 and 87. Barack also worked there, that’s how he and Michelle met. Isn’t it funn that he worked with Dohrn then went on to chair two different foundations with Ayers, but he’s just some guy in the neighborhood.
I don’t know if either of these link are what you’re looking for, but they’re two I saved on it.
http://tinyurl.com/3hwrnj
http://theproblemwithobama.com/?tag=dohrn
Maybe I’m too confident in America. Maybe those gloom and doomers among you are right. Either voters will pause at some point and say, “wait a minute here, I need to take a closer look at this guy before I pull the lever,” or they don’t and they buy the scam.
We get the government we deserve. If we as a nation let Obama have it then so be it. Things like this happen periodically in the course of history, I just hoped I wouldn’t have to see it in my lifetime. The last ten years or so I’ve been feeling sorry I never had children. If Obama wins I will be glad I didn’t.
Shiloh….I’m sorry you have been feeling regret for not having children. Children can be a joy, but they ain’t everything they’re cracked up to be. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my kids, but after the terrible twos and testy teens, they’ve just put gray in my hair and sucked all the life outta me. There, feel better.
Obama is sooo corrupt and no one will cover it. I just fired off hate mail to CNN for not doing its job. Has anyone seen what is going on in OHIO with A.C.O.R.N….? Why did the DNC file a motion to block the lawsuit against Obama regarding his Birth certificate? Who the FU*K is this guy??
The DNC do NOT want anyone to look into their records…Discovery is a bitch…and Dean the UberPutz has already got one lawsuit he’s fighting over dicrimination/hiring…He certainly does’nt want another that forces a looksie into DNC shenanigans during the primaries…Barky doesn’t want ANY SCRUTINY AT ALL..Fascists rarely do…I’m just sayin’
It was a stupid mistake for the joint filing between DNC & Barky…imho…Dean will go down with Barry & I hope Pelosi and Reid/Kerry/Brazeal all of them are on the first row of that sinking ship
I wrote two emails to AP. Does anyone have that reporter’s email address too? Isn’t there some way we can start class action suits against the media? I mean, the DAMAGES are the fact that they are lying about Obama and convincing idiots who vote for him to hand this very precious country over to a dangerous criminal. Come ON. There has to be SOME WAY to stop these lunatics.
What a grasp you have of constitutional and legal principles. A class action suit against AP?
Funny!
Racketeering between DNC, obama campaign and media is more like it.
Its the RICO statute. I think it applies, and a class action lawsuit against the DNC as well.
I think that’s part of Berg’s Lawsuit against the DNC…Hmmm….Discovery is a Bitch
What a great relationship between a guy running for POTUS who goes around bad mouthing our troops that Fight For Our Freedom and doesn’t bother to drop by and visit with the injured soldiers because he couldn’t bring his entourage with him, and a guy known as a self admitted domestic TERRORIST that didn’t do enough.
McCain needs to ask BO why he never mentions his EXECUTIVE experience at CAC that managed $100 million. Followed by why can’t you produce your Birth Certificate to the court in Pennsylvania. I thought you were transparent?
“Maybe I’m too confident in America. Maybe those gloom and doomers among you are right.”
I keep going back from “gloom and doom” into a state of shock that this sham candidate could have hoodwinked as many people as he has, that’s all.
It seems as though the same scoundrels who had a vested interest in absolving the last loser president from all accountability are suspending all judgment in promoting an even more malevolent one…
It’s not time to give up, by any means, but it is about to get very ugly and I think we all have to brace ourselves for that.
Better an end with horror, than horror without end.
And Barky at the helm is horror without end, no question about it.
Fox News: Asking for E-Mail NOW..Do you think the Ayers connection to Obama is IMPORTANT or not…Please contact the with your thoughts now…I did…..TY
what address?
Here is the email I just sent yourcomments@foxnews.com:
I am writing to thank you for covering this story. The connection between Ayers and Obama is of crucial importance, because the biographical record makes it very clear that Ayers and others connected to both the Weather Underground and to radical politics in the US have groomed Obama from his days at Occidental College until he finished Harvard Law School to become a political candidate who is actually deeply identified with their movements.
Steve Diamond and Stanley Kurtz have developed all of the relevant information on their own, with no help from mainstream media journalists, and now it is time for the media to take a look for themselves.
For example, did Michelle Obama, who finished Harvard Law School just ahead of Obama, really meet him for the very first time when he got a summer job working at Sidley Austin in Chicago — a law firm that had Ayers’ Weather Underground wife on staff even though her criminal record precluded her from being admitted to the Illinois bar?
Consider this possibility: If Obama’s and his wife’s connections to Ayers and Doehrn go back to Obama’s most formative years — when he transferred to Columbia, suddenly traveled in areas of the world nurturing international terrorists, and then received Al-Monsour’s help in getting into and paying for his Harvard legal education — isn’t it just possible that Obama is actually just a little bit (pick one) tolerant of or even sympathetic to domestic terrorism?
And if that is even possible, is it a good idea to choose someone like that to lead the US during a time of protracted global conflict with international terrorists who want to harm the US?
Please do your due diligence with this issue. It is your duty as journalists to investigate and report on this, regardless of what you conclude.
where’s the link to the vote, can’t find it?
Addy: weekendlive/foxnews.com
I emailed both the weekendlive address and yourcomments addresses with my Obama-Ayers opinion.
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well besides the press i beleive the major polls are rigged ,tell me if im wrong but rassmussen and battleground both have 5 to 6 percent more dems than repubs in their sample.both have the dems at close to 40 percent of the voters please tell me am i wrong or is this a correct percentage.
Yes, they do have more Democrats than Republicans in their samples.
And that’s because there are more Democrats than Republicans in the US right now. The Republicans have been losing party members and the Democrats have gained them. Just look at voter registration numbers in virtually every state.
thats possible but i dont beleive that 40 percent of the voters in this country are dems or that independants are only 25 percent
Ah, a faith based approach to public opinion analysis. Look at multiple, independent data — both polls and voter registration figures.
You minimize the number of Dems who have gone to McCain because BO is an insufferable egomaniac and UNQUALIFIED to run this country.
You’re relying on polls that are skewed for reasons that I’m sure you can take a wild guess at.
yes hrc thats what i was getting at plus this troll says check voter registration percentages ,well please tell me how you do that other than biased news reports.
Right. This troll still doesn’t get the concept of “managed news.” If he/she doesn’t get it after this year, there’s no hope.
That may be true, but not every state has a majority of Democrats. You have to look at the breakdowns and call accordingly. If I know there are 20 people in a group. 4 are from one group. 10 are from thesecond group. 6 are from a third group. It makes no sense/ is awfully skewed to call all 4 of the first group. 2 of the second group and 2 from the third. Which is exactly what they’re doing.
It also makes no sense if I have a group of 20, 4 of them are African American and 16 of them are caucasian to call all 4 African Americans and 2 of the Caucasians which is also what they’re doing.
The only good thing is it isn’t going to discourage people as it’s set up to do this year, it will bring them out in force which will prove how skewed the polls this year were. The good thing is that may put an end to all the ones that were skewed, no one will trust/finance/sponser/support them anymore.
I thought Rasmussen has a 9+ percent in the favor of the democrats. It also is important to know if they are polling conservative republicans or moderate republicans. There is so many ways to have a poll say what you want to say that it is completely meaningless what they are saying. This also goes for the places that McCain is ahead. The most important thing is that as many people as possible turn out for McCain on Nov 4th.
The main way polls are rigges is with so-called independents who aren’t really independent at all and the pollsters know that.
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