So What
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on October 5, 2008 at 7:45 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, DNC idiocy, GLBT, Harry Reid, Howard Dean, Joe Biden, John McCain, Sarah Palin
Did I miss while out of the country, anything?? Everything has just been humming along while I was out snorkeling with the fish in Grand Cayman, I assume - no big Congressional issues, or Must See tv??
Ok, yes, I do know there was a little thing going on with the economy. Hey, as long as ACORN, and the other two organizations Obama wanted to fund with your taxpaying dollars did NOT get listed as receiving 20% of the bailout repayment, I’m happy it happened. Uh, ACORN DIDN’T get it, right???
And then there was something else I think happened on Thursday night - hmm, what could that possibly have been? Oh, yes, I remember now - Sarah took on Joe in the debate. Now, I will tell you right upfront that I did NOT watch it all - I only caught a few snippets here and there (I was on vacation, after all - no need to have my blood boiling while I’m looking out at the Caribbean Sea!). But there was one part I DID see, and found interesting. Especially since I keep getting emails from my sister on how DANGEROUS McCain/Palin will be on gay rights. Yes, I just so happened to see the piece in which Palin was asked about gay rights and same sex marriage. Here’s the video:
While I obviously DO NOT agree with her, or Biden, in any way shape or form, she was MASTERFUL in framing her response the way she did. Why? Because it made Biden say CLEARLY that OBAMA AND BIDEN DO NOT SUPPORT SAME SEX MARRIAGE. Ahem. Sorry, but I am sick and tired of getting email after email from organizations (and forwards from “concerned” family members) about how HORRIBLE it will all be for the GLBT community should McCain/Palin get in the White House. Their positions are virtually IDENTICAL, with the exception of Obama’s numerous anti-gay activist associates. So, for these organizations to engage in this fear mongering/anger inciting tact is disingenuous at BEST. Frankly, it is dishonest, manipulative, and low, not what I expect from organizations like Think Progress, for instance (they are the latest to do this, but certainly not the only ones to do so).
I might also add that for someone who has not been in politics for 36 yrs, from what I did see, Sarah more than held her own. I guess maybe that’s the difference between having to actually make the hard decisions on a regular basis for an entire state, and just yak, as Obama said senators do.
And while I am on that, SusanUnPC from No Quarter alerted me to the orchestrated attacks on Sarah Palin by lesbians via Our Chart. If you are unfamiliar with Our Chart, it is an online community started by a concept of the same title on “The L Word.” Anyway, an alert reader sent Susan a link from Our Chart in which Palin is being targeted. Apparently, people are not paying attention to the facts about Obama and the GLBT community, or they don’t want to BELIEVE where he really stands (ah, denial, such a lovely place), but are all too ready to believe whatever rumor comes down the pike about Palin (and/or McCain). What the hey?? While I have always, always, always been incredibly liberal, I did not know that the ONLY women allowed to be self-actualized are LIBERAL women, not ALL women. Who the hell knew THAT?? Anywho, back to lesbians attacking Palin - the lack of critical thinking by this community (heck - anyone who is voting for him) is staggering. But for women-identified-women to attack another woman so ruthlessly is disturbing, to say the least. I reckon they don’t really care that they have more rights under Palin in Alaska than in many other states in the Union. Or maybe they don’t understand that when Obama says HE doesn’t support same-sex marriage, that is no different from when Palin says she doesn’t. See, even though Logic was required for me as a Philosophy major, I just don’t think that’s a big logical leap requiring additional coursework, but that’s just me. But people are clearly buying the lies being spread in this election. The lies are about who Obama is, and for what he stands, as well as who his opponents are. So much for truth, justice, and the American way. I guess that’s just passe for this generation of young people. And for too many others, as well. Win at all and any costs seems to be the NEW American slogan. I’d kinda like to get back to the old one, myself.
Ah, well, just another month of this foolishness. Until then, it is critical that we keep doing what we can to combat the lies spread by Obama and his surrogates. Let him win or lose fair and square - that would be new and different for him, wouldn’t it?? No time like the first time for that to happen, and I certainly hope this is the year he learns all about losing (do you think he will cry to Pelosi or Dean or Reid that they PROMISED him he would win like Dubya did to his brother about Florida??). It couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy, if you ask me.
Glad to be back - so tell me what else I missed!
Whoop.. straight up (ha ha), Reverend Amy, I don’t know if you are a lesbian or not. I am and I support McCain/Palin. Also there are a host of people over at HillaryClintonForum.net who are LGBT folk and they all support McCain/Palin. So my community isn’t stupid… it just seems some are a little mentally confused.
http://www.thethirdjihad.com/
The Third Jihad:
After the FBI releases a radical Islamist manifesto describing how to weaken America from within, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim American and former physician to the US Congress, decides to investigate. The Third Jihad is about what he discovered.
How is radical Islam operating inside the West? Is a subversive “cultural jihad” underway? How does radical Islam plan to bring America to its knees? What is the endgame
alQaeda would be infuriated that the U.S. elected a president - BORN A MUSLIM - who later defected to a form of Christianity.
btw - why does the MSM omit Obama’s middle name?
They didn’t omit Hillary’s.
Dems for McCain - NO Hussein!
Yea, exactly. It’s just some LGBT that are trying to make it look like the community is completely for Obama. It isn’t.
In 2004 23% of our community voted for Bush. Just wonder how those numbers will be this year.
Sometimes I wonder of there are more G&L’s here at NQ then the hetro community. Every time someone says they are G-or-L it’s like, whoa another one.
Count me in
me too
me too. i’m full on for mccain/palin. you see, both mccain AND palin have something in common with me - i’m a veteran and a “lipstick” lesbian. haha. the other ticket? absolutely NOTHING in common with them - not even sure one of ‘em is an american. (ahem)
seriously, compared to oblahma/biden, there is no comparison. i’m a woman first, american second. the dem ticket has done everything they can to convince me, a woman and a lesbian as well, that there is no place in their party for me as a woman, and as an american, well, i’d prefer to vote for folks who really love their country. mccain/palin have asked for my vote and flat out told me what they believe but that they have tolerance. i do not believe that of the dems.
me three!
Hey Rev. Amy…welcome back…love your article.
We missed you…you betcha!
Check out this blog from New Zealand…some great stuff on the Plastic One called the Obama Files:
http://newzeal.blogspot.com
Xcellent Rev. Amy…Hope you had a good trip. You are just in time for the Barkyslam…courtesy of Sarah…YOU BETCHA!
BTW…MCCAIN had an interesting inteview with Blade…and Barky the democrat?…still afraid of the GAY PRESS
Obama’s a coward (like a lot of democrats) when it comes to gay rights.
It was McCain who called out the religious right as being agents of intolerance - a very courageous thing to do given the power they have over the republican party. I know he’s not pro-gay, he’s just not going to stand in their way - libertarian if you will on this issue.
He’s not like Bush. Bush won Ohio by convincing AA preachers that Kerry was pro gay.
PLUS…
I think I can safely say that gays can count on Obama about as much as women.
What an ass.
Not sure why I can’t get a comment posted with a link to this blog from New Zealand that is the repository of the Obama Files…trying again:
http://newzeal.blogspot.com
Palin at least is honest. She supports civil unions, McCain does as well. Obama is a homophobe who is clearly on the down low.
I’m sorry that some lesbians (damn, in this day and age are you sure that they are lesbians and not l8 year old zit ridden boy-trolls from Obamaville?)–
choose to be ignorant (Rachel Maddow being a good example–and hey are we sure RM is a lesbian and not an 18 year old zit ridden boy-troll from Obamaville with a heavy base make-up on?).
I guess I’m a little suspicious of women who choose to write on a forum that mimics the L word. That is kind of hysterically funny in itself.
I think I read something about Sarah getting something passed in AK about partner rights for insurance?? Correct me if I’m wrong.
I think Palin vetoed a Bill that would have prohibited benefits for same-sex couples.
NoTroll, I hear you about Rachel. Just want to repeat what Sarah said about what Madaline Albright(sp) said… “there is a special place in hell for women who don’t support women.” I hope Rachel finds good company with Donna in that firey place.
heh heh.
“Palin at least is honest. She supports civil unions, McCain does as well. Obama is a homophobe who is clearly on the down low.”
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Even though the Trinity Choir is missing a few members who were close to Obama, there’s more than one Larry Sinclair out there. Anyone who thinks Larry is unique, other than for his apparent fearlessness combined with being outspoken, is truly delusional.
Closet cases with political power have always proved to be extremely dangerous to the glbt community.
Hey, Thanks WasLN (and sorry they stole your name!)! I appreciate that!
And No Troll, thanks for the tip. I know not everyone in the community is anti-Palin (and/or McCain), but these kinds of actions against her instead of looking at Obama just makes me nuts. I guess I expect more from the LGBT community, you know? Like we shouldn’t be so quick to jump on the bandwagon with someone who has consistently aligned himself with outspoken homophobes, but that’s just me!
Good to be back with y’all!
I know exactly what you mean by “expecting more” from a community. I expected more from the dem party, more from feminist groups, and clearly more from the folk you point to in your post. I guess
I’ll go over there and try to put in some Obama fun facts.
How many times does a person have to write,
“Donnie McClurkin, Rev. Meeks, Donald Young” for people to snap out of the kool-aide haze?
Excellent question. I really do not get why people are so willing to dismiss and discount major problems/people with Obama that they would crucify others for having. Boggles the mind.
I could not agree more - I expected more from the DNC - I expected it to act in an impartial, fair, and just manner. To see how corrupt it really is blindsided me, I have to admit…Same with the self-appointed spokespeople for feminism. This whole thing of women attacking women for an unqualified, pompous, arrogant man just makes me ill. Have we learned nothing? Sheesh.
As a San Franciscan, I do not know how anyone in the GLBT community can even think of voting for Obama after the giving biggest slap in the face possible to this politically powerful community. Obama refused to shake hands or be seen in any photograph with Mayor Gavin Newsom, who is straight, all because of Newsom’s support for gay marriage. This fact has been confirmed in an column in the San Francisco Chronicle authored by Willie Brown, former SF Mayor and Speaker of the State Assembly and arguably still the most powerful Democrat in the entire State of California.
Palin has show through her actions as an elected official that she can set her personal beliefs aside and uphold her oath of office and ensure that members of the GLBT community have their equal rights under the law. If past actions are predictive of future results when confronted with similar issues, the GLBT community should be behind Palin and rejecting Obama outright.
most of my MCC church are all-out obamanuts, but there is a small contingency of us who have some sense.
Here’s another McCain-Palin racist supporter.
Another? We are all racists for not voting for that dirtbag Obama according to the trolls.
No, I’m voting against his white half. I can do this, since I’m the white mother of biracial children. Spike your Kool Aid with those facts!
Oops, I just watched it. Cool kid. Bless him.
I don’t really agree with everything he says, as I’m one of the liberals he’s kind of ranting against, but I am voting for McCain/Palin, and I do have biracial kids (that’s a long story in and of itself), and my mothering was questioned by a black man in New York who called here and thought I was being racist because Barky “looks different” (my kids are SO much better looking…he’s just plain homely). He was shocked when I gave him my facts, then asked what kind of mother am I to do this to my kids?
I don’t know. The black family across the street won’t give me, or my kids, the time of day. What’s that make them?
doc 99
this video is SUPERB! ABSOLUTELY SUPERB!
I will cross post.
THANK YOU FOR THIS LINK!!!!
Welcome back RRRAmy!
Your article this evening is excellent.
I too applaud what Gov Palin did during the debate when she repeated her position on gay marriage and clarified that it is the same as Sen Biden’s and Sen Obama’s position.
Many of my gay and lesbian friends are voting for Sen Obama because-they say-he supports their causes.
I would send my friends article after article showing that they were misinformed but they refused to believe me.
Even after VP debate (& Gov Palin statement) most of my friends still refuse to believe that Sen Obama does not support gay and lesbian marriage.
They think its just an act on his part until he gets elected and then he will show his true colors and support them. I come back with “What about his FISA vote”??? “What about his refusal to impeach Bush?” Sadly, these Obama supporters are so brainwashed that again, their only comeback is that he is just saying and doing these things so he can get elected and once he is in power he will SUDDENLY keep all promises he made to all people.
How unbelievable, how scary. I would be lying to you if I said that none of my friendships will be affected by this election.
Now Amy, a beautiful week in the Carribbean and you are all riled up already? Well at least you had that peaceful week.
Yeah I think Sarah did great - with a capitol G-R-E-A-T! She missed some important opportunities on some issues and points, but America has her attention now.
And yes out of all 4 of them she is the only one that has actually helped Gay & Lesbian couples get benefits in in the State of Alaska. Unlike the democrat who opposed survivor benefits transfered to domestic partners in Chicago.
I love reading your post and was just sitting here realizing as a lesbian and women you get doubly screwed by an Obama presidency.
Oh and not sure if this happened before you left or not, BHO changed his mind about “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” and will be referring it to the Joint Chief’s of Staff (same as McCain, and something about re-thinking DOMA.
Yep, he really does support our community.
LOL - I know - unfortunately, it doesn’t take long to get riled back up - so much from which to choose, you know?
Exactly right, Phx - Obama is NOT good for women and GLBTs. Yet, we tend to vote against our own self interest all the time. Go figure…
Yes, I did know abt DOMA and DADT - I had quite a rant abt it right here at NQ!
WCA - thanks! And I’ll try to find the Blade article. I know that McCain at least stands with his gay friends - I don’t think Obama stands for anyone but himself. And Michelle.
Wassup with Rachel Maddow?? I used to have respect for her, but WOW - she sold out EARLY for Obama. I guess she knew she had to if she wanted her very own show…
I do not remember her being to friendly to Hillary during the primaries to tell you the truth.
You can’t be serious???
Oops…didn’t see the “not”
Sorry.
O/T, I’m watching Hannity’s special.
Yikes, I guess he’s a full-fledged racist!
Pretty damning, yet accurate, reporting.
EVERYONE! TURN ON FOX RIGHT NOW TO SEE HANNITY’S EXPOSE ON OBAMA!
It is damning…and scary! Can we have an open thread please?
Thanks turning it on now
Hannity is laying it out. Al monsour an all. With a bit of Alinsky. That is only in 10 minutes. And how they refuse to give out the information
My old DNC friends will say this is all GOP swiftboating!
Problem is you have to watch Fox to get this info. Altough I have seen some watered down info on CNN today.
I wish the AA community raise up and question Obama.
Where are they?
They drank the koolaid!
No they didn’t. He could be on the FBI list as a known terrorist and they still wouldn’t care. As long as he is black, that’s all they care about. I don’t care if that is a racist. It is true.
Yes it is true. That’s just where they are.
I think it will be at least one hundred years before they are able to get beyond it.
For now, I view them as any other culture who puts race before humanity - dumb, but not uncommon.
This AP quote alone PROVES Barack Obama a liar: “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood”:
“At issue is Obama’s association with Ayers. Both have served on the same Chicago charity and live near each other in Chicago. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s, the event cited by Palin.”
“The heels are on, the gloves are off,” she declares, a threat delivered with a smile.”
Indeed!!
Hannity’s America Special Report tonight on FOX:
Obama & Friends
History of Radicalism
Obama is getting exposed BIG TIM tonight!!
MUST SEE!!
America must defeat Obama!
Biden Flipped:
Before he Flopped:
Rev Amy:
I am a 38 year old lesbian who lives in the Capital Beltway. I too have been appalled at the vindictive knee-jerk reaction lesbians in this area have to Gov. Palin. I’m a lesbian hearing other lesbians parrot Roe v. Wade. I frankly don’t care anymore. Why aren’t they crying foul that Obama doesn’t pay his female staff members on par with his male staff. Why aren’t they decrying him going on the evangelical circuit with assholes like Meeks and McGlurkin? Frankly I couldn’t give a shit about all the little straight girls who have been giggling at the nastiness directed at Hillary Clinton and Gov. Palin. Let them fight their own battles when they finally pull their heads out of their collective asses.
I will be voting for McCain-Palin come Nov 4th. Never in my life have I ever voted Republican.
I have never laughed so hard at your comments. Delightful to hear before retiring my computer.
Join the club Eurogirl.
Whoo Hoo!
Oh, snap! Great comment, Eurogirl! And I hear you loud and clear - thanks for saying it so well!
being gay you are born with but having gay relationships is a choice that is the difference that Palin is talking about.
Palin signed into law gay partner benefits in Alaska.
Plus she was a basketball player for god’s sake—-she has come across many gay people and i believe she is totally tolerant and ok with gay people. She and Biden were on same page on gay rights from the debate.
Given that Obama is apparently a self-loathing closet homosexual or bisexual with evidence that those he’s slept with have been silenced by gunpoint…I can’t see how any self-respecting gay person could vote for Obama, honestly.
Not gay, so I can’t speak for gays. But if I were gay, I would be extremely turned off by Obama.
Sorry Rev- but some of us believe in traditional marriage between man and woman- to each it’s own views. And I believe Sarah spoke for the majority of the world with her views. The other 10% of the country has every right to live according to what makes them happy and they feel is right with G-d. Personally, I am a like a eunuch except that I am a female and for the last 15 years I chose to live this way for my G-d without bondage of vices. To each it’s own.
Wow Soldier,
I guess this is where you and I part ways…
you really think there’s no distinction?
Obama may have had a racist pastor, but at least his church doesn’t have a “Pray the Gay Away” program.
Palin doesn’t belong to a any one church she goes to many.Do your homework troll.
But Obama engages in gay bashing tour with Reverend Donnie McClurkin and Catholic Legal Scholar and former Constitutional Counsel to Bush and Reagan Douglas Kmiec.
Obama actively bashes gays, while McCain and Palin support benefits for same sex couples.
Obama also has a close advisor who is very much anti-gay. Do some investigation work on the name James Meeks. (He was also the one who referred to African-American supporters of Chicago mayor Daley as “house n****rs”.)
Incidentally, how cam you support Barr, given HIS longtime opposition to gay rights while serving in the House? One could say that Barr has flipped for political convenience. In order to be considered for the Libertarian nomination, he had to “apologize” for many of his prior House votes and comments. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I really don’t believe he would be as supportive of his party’s official position if he should manage to win the election.
For what it’s worth, I find Palin’s opposition to gay marriage to be much more empathetic and connected to the feelings of the actual people involved. She talks about her friend who is gay and how she loves her and doesn’t judge her. She talks about how they have healthy debates about gay marriage.
In contrast, to Obama and Biden gay people appear to be a demographic to be reluctantly pandered to. And pandered to as little as possible. I almost find this kind of exploitation more offensive and dismissive of gay people.
I know as a female, when Biden starts talking about what a friend to women he is, I grit my teeth. It’s not that he has a bad track record, it’s that he’s pandering like a cheap salesman. It’s like he doesn’t really feel empathy towards women’s issues, he’s trying to get something from you.
I too grit my teeth yttik when Biden talks about how “pro-woman” he is. Everyone should keep in mind two (2) little words where Biden is concerned, when he references that point…..
ANITA HILL!!!!!
Eurogirl,
I, too, think of Anita Hill when Credit Card Joe does his little “I’m pro women” crap. I also think about how he pays his female staff less than his male staff. He’s a hypocrite and an ass. And Barry Soetoro is a liar and a creep.
Biden bad record re: women= Anita Hill. Once you check that history out you’ll underatsnd that he is no knight in shining aromor for womes rights.
you sure about that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llZuoMXpr4s&NR=1
yes, i am. palin vetoed anti-gay legislation, while obama bashes gays with mcclurkin and kmiec.
Don’t forget James Meeks! (Great comments, Truthteller!)
When I listened to Biden’s answer about how hetero couples and gay couples would have the same rights under the Constitution in Obama’s administration, I knew he was just talking bullsh&t. There is nothing in the Constitution about marriage at all. Nothing governing married people’s rights to property or hospital visitations. Nothing at all.
Biden once voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and Palin once vetoed a bill that would ban gay rights. None of us should make the mistake of thinking that one party protects our rights while another tries to take them away. It’s just not that simple and ultimately politicians respond to what the people demand. Gay marriage will happen when pressure from the people makes it politically expedient for politicians to support it.
Her answer was respectable and I appreciate her honesty. I feel the same way, but think gay couples can have civil unions which is not marriage. Legally same sex is not the same as civil rights. It is not under strict scrutiny as a constitutional level of scrutiny under Equal Protection of the 14th Amendment. It would be either intermediate scrutiny or rational basis. Most courts apply a rational basis test and that is why most states do not allow same sex marriage except for CA and MA.
PUMA 2008!
Ever hear of something called the “full faith and credit” clause? That sort of predates the 14th Amendment.
Article IV, Section 1:
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof. (Note: This is the reason that you don’t need a new driver’s license every single time you drive to or through a different state from your own. It’s also why heteros don’t have to go through the legal necessity of getting REMARRIED every time they move to a different state.)
This was part of the ORIGINAL Constitution (even before the addition of the Bill of Rights) that the Founding Fathers agreed to and signed. (The Bill of Rights only came AFTER, in order to guarantee the states would ratify the Constitution.)
As to the “civil rights” matter, the Loving decision (which ended the ban on interracial marriages) DECLARED that marriage is a civil right.
The actual text reads Marriage is one of the “basic civil rights of man,” fundamental to our very existence and survival. Full text appears at http://www.ameasite.org/loving.asp, with the quoted part coming from the final paragraph. Incidentally, the final sentence reads Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State. If gay men and lesbians are to be treated AS full citizens, then the ONLY difference should be to remove “of another race” from the Court’s original decision.
Also, most state legislatures have gay marriage as a violation of public policy and these states Courts are held to interpret the state laws, not create ones. So, that is one reason why contractual agreements betwen same sex couples are preferred.
Dude, do you realize how much those “contractual agreements” cost? You’re talking thousands of dollars involving various courts (most states will require separate dealings with probate courts, revenue appraisal boards) and, in most cases, these agreements can offer less protection than a simple marriage license.
A gay male couple that wishes to buy a house may find that they CANNOT because they are TWO unrelated individuals and some zoning laws prohibit two or more NON-related adult individuals from sharing a single-family dwelling if there’s no marriage license involved. (IOW, Bill and his uncle Ted can share Bill’s house, but Bill and his “husband” Greg cannot. The former “couple” are related; the latter are not.)
A gay male couple that decides to form a “business partnership” can find themselves in far more financial trouble if one should require hospitalization. A “divorce” can create all sort of financial hardships (the need to formally dissolve the partnership–complete with THOSE fees–is the least of the problems).
Also, it’s worth noting that these “arrangements” of which you speak are often ALSO prohibited by the States which have banned same-sex marriage. Most of those amendments explicitly prohibit the recognition of ANY arrangement that might attempt to pass as “marriage”, and a “contractual agreement” would be viewed as an effort to circumvent the law. (Incidentally, hospitals are allowed to ignore any “contractual agreement” that is NOT a marriage license–except where civil unions and domestic partnerships are legal. Just think of it like this: Would you want a court to be the ultimate decider if YOUR significant other were hospitalized and the hospital refused to recognize your “contractual agreement”? Most courts are going to IGNORE a mere “contractual agreement” when it’s presented with blood relatives who make a claim that they are acting in your SO’s best interest. A number of wills have been challenged in court–SUCCESSFULLY–by gay men and lesbians against their surviving partners simply because the courts were not allowed to acknowledge the same-sex relationship as valid. Even when presented arguments that blood relatives haven’t been a part of the deceased’s life for decades, the courts still side with the relatives over the partner.)
I’m for McCain - Palin and I beleive that both Obama and Palin do not want gay marriages for religious reasons (which I personally do not agree with). But of you listen to specifically what Palin says, it is NOT IMHO that she supports civil unoins. She vetoed the metioned bill because of the state supreme court ruling and not becuase she believed in that action (according to her own words). She had an issue with giving gay couples equal benefits because in her opinion that is the same as being a marriage no matter what you call it. She cleverly dodged saying that in the debate. I don’t think she’s a homophobe or anti-gay but she does appear to have a very conservative (i.e. religious) view about gay coupledom. For what it’s worth.
news flash…she is a conservative
wonder woman, she has said in interviews that she supports the rights of gays to make decisions involving their partners etc. (civil union rights).
Look at McCain’s record on Homosexuality. He is the top of the ticket after all.
His chief of staff is openly gay.
He pays the women in his senate staff as well or better than the men.
He is a good man who will not allow citizens to become disenfranchised.
Give him a chance I think you will be glad you did.
Gay guy here for Mccain/Palin !
As soon as she arrived on the scene, I was crazy about her… and I now about the conservatism too…. but
I just wanted he to say ” I love my gay hairdresser !” and she could seal the deal with me. in the debate she hinted that she had diverse friends, and I ran with it, done, she’s in, go get Obama now girl ! both barrels
Here’s the question — did Ifill try to put Palin on the spot for her veto of anti-gay legislation in front of the radical religious right on national TV? Did Biden do the same when he went out of his way to say, ‘our positions are the same.’
This is what disgusts me about Obama-Biden. Palin is trying to move her Conservative Party towards tolerance and respect for separation of church and state. When she does this, the dirty used syphillitic scumbag Biden tries to hurt her politically in the Republican base. Biden tried to stop Palin from reforming the Republican Party to stop attacking gays. This is what the LGBT community calls a friend?
Remember, John Edwards did the same thing to his slimemate Cheney, making sure all the conservatives listening knew Cheney had a gay daughter.
I’m pretty certain that “all the conservatives” already KNEW that Cheney has a gay daughter. Edwards was actually trying to acknowledge that he truly believed that not all Republicans are bigots and many are quite happy to accept their own gay family members. (If you recall, it was Mrs Cheney who cried “foul” over the “disclosure”, claiming an invasion of privacy.) I believe that John was trying to contrast the Cheneys with such slime as Phyllis Schlafly (who barely acknowledges her gay son) and Alan Keyes (who, of course, later essentially disowned his own gay daughter).
Lesbian here for McCain/Palin… as well as my parner, tho still a registered democrat, will vote McCain.
My partner of 38 years and I, both lifetime democrats, changed to independents and voting straight(gulp) Republican ticket.
RRRA, right on once again. I am a fellow nature lover, been scuba diving all my life. Glad you got some much needed R&R. 29 days to go, and they are freaking breaking all the roools now and this morning my head exploded when I read my emails…:
OFF TOPIC AND URGENT!!!
My email address is being used by obamabots to write to my Senator. This morning I got a response from my Senators office saying they got an email from ME and I didn’t send him any mail for months.
This is horrible. I sent my Senator a reply asking what I supposedly said.
Something happened two weeks ago that made me believe my email was being used but I ignored it.
If these thugs are using my name they are using yours too.
NOT IN MY NAME I OWN MY VOTE!!!