Late Night Open Thread * NOW’s Time is Now

Did anyone see CNN’s Anderson Cooper tonight? Over on FreeRepublic (I know, I know) there’s a thread saying he did an expose about 0bama and Ayers that proved that 0 lied nonstop about his relationship.

Just wondered. If/when I find a video link I’ll post it.

I sent your Amazon book link to Sean Hannity & other journalists.

I especially liked the way Ayers mentioned Farrahkan and Obama are his neighbors and that “The Fruit of Islam” (Fraahkan’s army) provides security for the entire neighborhood.

Must be why Obama wanted to buy a house there.

I thought I read somewhere that Obama gave a blurb with a positive review of Ayers’ book — something that would show one more link between the two.

I am a former state president of the National Organization for Women. I am still a state officer and on the executive board in my state. I was appalled that the National NOW PAC chose to endorse Obama/Biden instead of sitting this one out. I have contacted Mandell and told her I support her. I am voting McCain/Palin. This election has been a disgrace and has revealed that misogyny and sexism is still acceptable behavior in this country. NOW could have taken a leadership role and made a statement about this, instead the NOW PAC chose to implicitly and tacitly endorse this behavior by endorsing Obama/Biden. I will not renew my NOW membership.

I wrote N.O.W. several times during the primaries about their lack of action when Hillary was being attacked. Their LACK OF ACTION for the first viable woman candidate in our history was REPREHESIBLE and UNEXCUSABLE.

When N.O.W. began using membership money to send out their attack ads on SARAH PALIN I wrote them a blistering letter of condemnation and basically told them they would never get one more cent out of me for as long as I lived - and I MEAN it (nor will NARAL).

As I told them: In my opinion, a TRUE FEMINIST IS ONE WHO RESPECTS, HONORS AND UPHOLDS ALL WOMEN - EVEN THOSE WHO CARRY A DIFFERENT BELIEF SYSTEM FROM ONE’S OWN.

It is a sad day (or year) in hell to see that the NATIONAL ORGANIZATIoN FOR WOMEN has failed so miserably in this fundamental premise of feminism. It is a even bigger testament to Ms. Mandell that she was able to “overcome” the vicious mindset of N.O.W. to think for herself and stand firm to her personal beliefs. I’m incredibly proud of her - it’s not easy to do; no matter how old we get, there’s always peer pressure - our professional organizations are just another form of high school.

Ms. Albright’s response was a tad ridiculous.

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I agree; how utterly childish. So what if Albright doesn’t support Palin’s “PARTY”, should should have appreciated her comments (kinship between women) and kept it at that or SAID NOTHING AT ALL. Big jerk! (I was gonna - I mean ‘going’ to add some unflattering (sp?) adjectives but I decided not to - since I’m a nice, decent person

beverly leslie -
That is the absolute PERFECT reply to Ms. Albright’s “response”! You hit the nail on the head! THAT HAS TO BE SENT IN TO GRETA -

If you google her name and los angeles info. will come up.

fif,
Go to the California NOW page, on the left side are California NOW Chapters, click the button and scroll down to the LA chapter and you’ll see Shelly Mandell’s name.

Exactly. Feminism is NOT just about liberal women who are democrats. The women’s movement was a bipartisan effort. It is NOT just synonymous with Roe v Wade. The women who have slammed Sarah Palin are NOT feminists. Feminists are about enriching the lives of all women - not some selected women.

Palin is furthering the cause of women by virtue of how far she has come. I am happy to have the opportunity to support a conservative woman. Even if Hillary were in the campaign now, I would NOT be slamming Palin. Like Bill Clinton, I would be saying, “She is a formidable candidate, but I just don’t agree with some of her views.”

candy - since the current president is a republican, any and all major problems (like this mortgage/stock market thing happening) will always be blamed on THAT party. Since McCain is a republican - they’ll pin this mess on him EVEN IF HE’S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT in his approaches or ideas or even if he constantly voted AGAINST Bush on each and every issue - he’d still get blamed. It’s not right - I know. McCain IS NOT BUSH - but the easily led think so. And, of course they can’t think on their own. And to think that Obummer attracted ‘highly educated’ voters???

CBS has Mac within 3 points, which is a 9 point drop for Obama in a week.

McCain is definitely not out of it.

Unfortunately, America usually gets the kind of leaders it deserves.

Damn but I’m tired of paying for stupidity of others.

YO!!!

Use the link above. Type Obama Ayers, etc etc.

It’s a blast from the past, a clean look at 2001 google before things were added or scrubbed!

Here’s that juvenile reform Obama and Ayers worked on:

From 2001 google:

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/97/971104.juvenile.justice.shtml

Should a child ever be called a “super predator?”
A panel at the University of Chicago debates the merits of the juvenile justice system
Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings”–and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court(Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop of the Reynolds Club, 5706 S. University Ave.

The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago.

The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the University of Chicago Law School, who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Chicago; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent 7 years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher in the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher in the Detention Center.

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

This is funny in light of Obama’s decision to forego government financing:

“Working with Senator Paul Simon in 1998, Senator Obama was one of only four legislators who crafted and passed Illinois’ toughest-ever campaign finance reform law.”

http://web.archive.org/web/20011222150605/www.senatedem.state.il.us/obama/

More curiosity. Wasn’t Obama listed as becoming a member of the Joyce Foundation board in 1998? There’s an article apparently from 7/96 listing him as a member of the board and containing various trivia about its activities around that time. Not available on google 2008.

$$$ connection between the Chicago machine, TUCC … and real estate (”the church today is probably one of the largest developers in the city”?):

http://web.archive.org/web/20011014185221/www.chicagoreporter.com/2000/9-2000/church/church1.htm

Close ties to City Hall are not unusual for some of the city’s most influential African American clergy, especially in recent years, The Chicago Reporter found. During Daley’s 11-year tenure, 14 of Chicago’s largest black congregations and their nonprofit affiliates have received $9.8 million in city payments, records show.

The funds help run day care programs, build affordable housing and administer social service programs. Four of the churches got no city money. City support for the 14 churches and their affiliates has increased steadily in the past decade, from $449,699 in 1989 to $1.7 million last year, records show. Some congregations also received interest-free loans or tax credits from the city.

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The 9,200-member Trinity United Church of Christ, at 400 W. 95th St., has garnered the most city funding of the 14 churches—$5.4 million—which includes grants for child care, meal programs and AIDS ministries. The city gave Trinity $218,492 in 1989, and funding has increased every year, to $1.1 million last year.

“If money is available, with no strings attached, we’re willing to cooperate with government agencies to benefit the community,” said the Rev. Melbalenia D. Evans, Trinity’s executive minister. “We do not help the city get votes. That would be a string that would be unacceptable.”

Bowen helped Carter Temple navigate city agencies after the church purchased an abandoned building at 7901 S. State St. in 1998. Williamson convinced 6th Ward Alderman Freddrenna M. Lyle and the city’s Department of Planning and Development that his church had a viable plan to construct senior housing and lure businesses.

The church is seeking federal funding and city tax credits to finance the project, according to Cook County Circuit Court files. A final decision is pending.

“The church today is probably one of the largest developers in the city,” Bowen said. Since January 1999, churches have purchased 23 lots from the city for $1, according to the Department of General Services. The institutions typically use the lots for day care facilities and affordable housing, Bowen said.

Starks calls this “plantation politics,” the practice of throwing out insubstantial gifts to appease—and quiet—the most influential members of minority communities. The city provides funding for church-based programs, he said, in return for political endorsements and muted criticism.

“Nothing’s illegal about it, but you can’t get [funding] unless you’re part of the group,” Starks said.

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Rev. Al Sampson has never sought the help of Bowen or Daley, and his church receives no city money. On a steamy Sunday morning in August, Sampson, a short, stout man wearing a white dashiki, encouraged the 35 worshippers at his Fernwood United Methodist Church, 10057 S. Wallace St., to honor God as the source of their power.

“Give me my daily bread,” Sampson said. “That’s D-A-I-L-Y, not D-A-L-E-Y.” Working up a sweat, he added, “God is the source of our breath. Not Daley, not [Chicago Public Schools Chief Executive Officer Paul G.] Vallas, not [Gov. George] Ryan. God.”

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He has remained a harsh critic of Daley, particularly the administration’s work with black churches. “The tragedy of black churches in this town is that they operate off privileges, not power,” Sampson said. “They have the power to make a change, but they’d rather work for Daley and the politicians to get privileges.”

Through Bowen, Daley has lulled black ministers into complacency, Sampson said. Many have accepted the administration’s argument that they are equipped to provide social services but not to promote long-term business development, he said.

This was hilarious! Thanks for sharing. I read somewhere else that SNL pulled it from their website. Glad its on youtube.

Nice to know we’re not the only ones thinking that Soros has been making mischief with the currency/financial markets to benefit his puppet.

You Go Girl!!

feminism isn’t owned by liberals or progressives.

Women are women’s worst enemies.

When I got married I kept my surname — and it was ALWAYS the women who gave me a hard time and some told me that it was “illegal” to use my own last name.

The world is upside down — I do believe that the poles have switched and north is south and south is north.

When did Sarah Palin make it to middle class? Todd Palin only graduated high school. And her income compared to most politicians is definitely lower class.

Sarah Palin and John McCain are not going to raise my business taxes which have a direct impact on the folks that work for me that are middle class.

Get it!!