It’s Not Over
By Capt Howdy on October 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM in Arrogance, Barack Obama, John McCain
I don’t need to tell anyone who reads Charles Lemos’s blog By The Fault (where I usually post) that many people are saying the election is over. The Obamans have gone past measuring drapes to talk of plans to rip out the bowling alley and install a hoops court. If you Google “why Obama will win” you get 49,800 hits compared to 16,200 hits for McCain (I was actually surprised it was that high). How about this: Why don’t we all just take a deep cleansing breath and let it out slowly through the mouth. There, don’t you feel better? It’s not over. Let me repeat that.
IT’S NOT OVER.
Everyone loves to make predictions. Particularly when lots of other people are making the same prediction. Big Tent Democrat, for example, over at Talk Left, has started predicting an Obama win about three to five times a day. I thought it might be fun to look at some predicted wins from past elections. Here a classic from the famous Chuck Todd:
A Kerry Landslide?
Why the next election won’t be close
But there’s another possibility, one only now being floated by a few political operatives: 2004 could be a decisive victory for Kerry. The reason to think so is historical. Elections that feature a sitting president tend to be referendums on the incumbent–and in recent elections, the incumbent has either won or lost by large electoral margins. If you look at key indicators beyond the neck-and-neck support for the two candidates in the polls–such as high turnout in the early Democratic primaries and the likelihood of a high turnout in November–it seems improbable that Bush will win big. More likely, it’s going to be Kerry in a rout.
As BTD’s “mini me” might say, “heh”. Here is another oldie but goodie come from E. J. Dionne:
Dukakis Remains on Course, Dismissing Polls and Advice
Advisers to both Mr. Bush and Mr. Dukakis say that if the election comes to turn around whether the Massachusetts Governor is too ”liberal” the Vice President will win. Specifically, if the campaign becomes a referendum on taxes, with Mr. Dukakis as a stand-in for taxes, both taxes and the Democrats will lose.
But Mr. Dukakis and his aides think there is another kind of campaign that he can win, and Mr. Bush’s aides are worried they might be right. As seen by the Dukakis campaign, their candidate’s main asset in the competition with Vice President Bush is certainly not ideological.
Instead, the qualities Mr. Dukakis’s aides emphasize these days are ”character,” ”leadership,” ”coolness” and ”predictability.” The George Bush they want to run against is not the moderate-to-conservative heir to Ronald Reagan, they say . . .
Wow. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I guess we need to ask a pollster. Let’s ask Zogby:
I have made a career of taking bungee jumps in my election calls. Sometimes I haven’t had a helmet and I have gotten a little scratched. But here is my jump for 2004: John Kerry will win the election.
Want a real laugh? Try Googling “Hillary will win” and read some of the 2,210,000 posts. In the interest of full disclosure, I will admit that my own predictions for this election season have been, shall we say, less than accurate.
I never believed the Democratic party would nominate someone with Obama’s thin resume and heavy baggage, and I also never thought the Republicans would be able to swallow their hatred of McCain and nominate the only candidate they had who could win, but there you are.
One wonders why, if the Obamans are so sure, they seem so worried. Here is a little truth. No one knows what will happen on November 4th. There are simply too many variables. Will Obama’s advantage in excitement and registration make him the next president, or will the doubts that voters have about his judgement and qualifications make McCain the next president. I will not make a prediction. I will offer an opinion.
Obama will lose, for at least a couple of reasons. First, the general voting population is far less burdened by liberal guilt than the average Democratic primary voter.
Secondly, and probably more importantly, there will be no caucuses on Nov. 4th. As much as the Obama brigades might like to, they will not be able to follow people into the booths on Election Day.
I have written at Charles’s blog before that I think there is a significant hidden anti-Obama vote. How big it is, no one can tell. But almost everyone agrees it is out there. Obama got yet another gift from the election Gods in the financial crisis, but the polls are tightening up again.
It’s not over.
Speaking only for me.
From Charles Lemos’s blog, By The Fault.
Thanks so much for your post, Capt. Howdy.
You are correct, it is not over by a long shot. The louder the media screams that it is, the more their fear is showing. The majority of the MSM have been in the tank for Senator Obama all year, so they need to back up their bias with a prediction that will save their reputations — which will be significantly tarnished if their candidate loses.
What the MSM fails to take into account is that he majority of Americans already think they are biased and as such, most have less and less credibility.
I personally can make no prediction. I have no idea what will happen. I just know that Obama limped to the finish line in the primary. Despite Obama outspending Hillary 3-1, and using caucus fraud to gain advantage, her own party stabbing her in the back repeatedly (and daily), and the MSM trashing her while unjustly applauding him– the best Obama could come up with was basically a tie.
He has a problem with closing the deal. It will be interesting to see if his continued dissembling and obfuscation gets him to the finish line or falls short.
I don’t think they care.
You said you have no prediction but then this:
I predict that the turmoil in the markets will push Obama and Biden both to offer more and more. Today, I think, I’m not sure, since one caught have a sentence, he offered to suspend Capital Gains taxes on small businesses.
First you cannot suspend Capital Gains on some businesses and not on another. So his stupidity runs ahead of him.
But more importantly, “here you go again Barky” mimicking McCain and the Republicans.
What are you Barky, a Republican, a Democrat, what?
small businesses don’t pay capital gains tax. Every time he says lowering or suspending capital gains on small business I chuckle.
I hope you are right Capt Howdy
cuz the hoopla is beyond ridiculous!
I can’t STAND THAT PHONY!!
I can’t STAND SEEING HIM ON TV 24/7
I can’t STAND HIS LEMMINGS (especially the extremely racist & ignorant among them)
that radio clip of Howard Stern questioning BHO supporters IN NY on an earlier thread pretty much clinched it for me. They are truly only voting for him cuz he’s black. They don’t even know his positions or who his VP really is!!! Did you all hear that radio clip?
SOMEONE should put that on air!!
The MORE I see his stupid commercials the LESS I like him.
but that’s just me (oh and my MOM, Aunt, Uncle & best friend)
Ani and others,
Do you remember in August, how American athlets won the Olympic Gold medal in Women’s 4X400 Relay? Two seconds before we crossed the finishing line, we were at the 2nd place.
A voter in McCain’s rally in Wisconsin yesterday asked McCain and Palin to fight for the voters, for our country. Ani, you and I and other NQ friends also need to finght for ourselves, fight for our country.
Election is too close to call, to say that it’s over is just being naive and stupid. Ohio and FL. will give the victory to Mccain/Palin. That’s my prediction.
the markets began stabalizing today. of course we aren’t out of the woods yet, but americans have such short attention spans. they’ll be off wall street and back on the elections. that won’t do barky any good not with the acorn bruahaha. barky always peaks too early.
Also, the price of oil went down to 80 dollars a barrel !
I think there is such a barrage of shit that has started to come out at Barack, involving tons of things, and I saw jerome Corsi on Fox this morning, he said he has Documents he brought back from kenya exposing Obama and his ties to the cousin’e election. Sorry, no link available. But, I did run into this interesting video clip on the Internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl3Nt4aWQ80
the music is pretty creepy, so you might want to view with the sound muted.
Premature electulation?
ROTFLMAO.
I think strategists using yesteryear stats for these predictions are on a slippery slope. In this hi-tec information age things are very different - info is instant. For people who aren’t hi-tec savvy, there are people around them who pride themselves on knowing the latest the fastest. So almost everyone stays tuned in somehow.
Interesting that as the stock market goes lower and lower, Obama’s poll #’s keep rising. It has been suggested perhaps the market can’t recover because it does NOT want Obama for president and remains ill. We will see as the market recovers and if O’s #’s go back down. I ‘predict’ they will change - down.
I agree with Capt Howdy & Ani. Interesting how this election fraud is heating up now – 12 states are being convicted – I find it ironic and karmic as the way the Dems handled their primary by devaluing people’s votes by cutting voters in half and tolerating fraud in the caucuses seems only fair that this issue of voter fraud has come back to bite them now. I think this will turn the election perhaps more than the Ayers connection. Coupled with all those PUMAS who refuse to reward the Dems for the way they handled the primary votes as well. McCain/Palin claim the victory on Nov. 4!
I’m with you, Rocky. I’m also hoping for poetic justice for Obama….live by the sword, die by the sword “sword” being election fraud–obviously.
I’m just so pleased to know the individual states are alerted to this outfit’s scams. I wonder if GWB made some secret calls.
I was thinking Hillary and Bill.
Come on, everybody.
The polls were wrong about Kerry winning in 2004.
The polls were wrong about many of primaries against Hillary.
Brush it off your shoulders.
The MSM is trying to SUPPRESS the McCain vote, hoping you’ll be discouraged and stay home.
Ignore them. VOTE.
They have every right.
I am certainly not creative, and would not know how to put together a YouTube video if my life depended on it, but I would love to suggest for anyone with that talent, that we PUMA’s would love to see one on the ACORN people finally getting what has been coming to them since January, I would like to see Donna brazille in it, too. She played such a role in the initial voter fraud, I’m sure she’s been quite the busy little bee all year. A suggestion, everytime I read about the ACORN people getting caught I start humming the Justin Timberlake/Timbaland song “What Goes Around Comes back Around”
any takers on the challenge? I’d love to see it.
BTW, Can Hillary and her supporters sue George Soro’s Democratic Party in a class action lawsuit under the claim that he, the DNC, MoveOn.org, and ACORN committed voter fraud in the Primaries, and in fact, stole the Nomination from Clinton, and denied us our right to a free election
process?
I’m just saying…
Like I said, in this climate of uncertainty and more important, turmoil, polls do not reflect accurately.
2. The MSM are just too invested in Oblabla and want to certify he is winning through the polls.
3. Something has to stick. I think the stink is so high and acrid with ACORN that it might stick good to his forehead.
People, even derelicts should have at least one ounce of decency to understand this man does not have an ounce of responsibility that defines him.
Capt, excellent post. I wrote this comment earlier today and is appropriate and related:
It ain’t over by a long shot!
And I wrote this which is similar:
>Polling was not invented to tell us who we SHOULD vote for! So true.
Also one needs to factor into the poll equation how many people like to lie to pollsters just to stir things up. This has happened time and again. Also coupled with the fact that people can say one thing and often do another another. The Bradley effect comes into play here, as it did with Kerry, when the exit polls did not match the actual vote. Voting is suppose to be a sacred ’secret’ right. Not many people want to reveal who their voting for face to face with a pollster, who may come across as bias or not. People feel judged, so they lie. Others lie just to create trouble and then laugh about it later. Let’s face it, this is human nature.
Whenever I get a call from a pollster or a campaign asking for $$, I either just hang up because the call is at a most inconvenient time or humor the caller by feeding him/her a line of pure BS. For some of the BS I have spewed, I am surprised I have not had a 3:00AM knock at my door, and the caller just sits there and politely listens.
That, and fear that if you give the wrong answer the Secret Service will show up on your door like happened to that woman in Texas.
I was auto-polled and I didn’t tell the truth. I hit all “undecided” except for a very local contest.
there are also other reasons (besides racism) to lie to pollsters. I recommend another of my posts at ByTheFault:
The Obama Effect
http://tinyurl.com/4qghgm
If they call me maybe I will tell them Obama is Jesus and has promised me a pink unicorn and rainbows in the sky 24/7. Maybe that will make them happy?
Thanks for the great post…………….
What will be interesting to see is how the MSM who have literally propagandized for Obama will survive after the election. I think we’ll see a shift of new talking heads emerging. I’m getting tired of the old brainwashed drones chanting the same old mantra day after day like a broken record. I wonder if some of these so called journalists and political pundits will still have a job.
The talking heads are admittedly nauseating. But the real problem is their keepers, the corporations who have turned news into propaganda.
Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric should top the list followed closely by Matthews and Olberman, Campbell Brown, John Roberts and everybody else at CNfreakin’N.
I don’t want just the puppet heads canned…I want their bosses held accountable as well. Come November 5th, win or lose, we will have to hold the press accountable.
HERE IS ANOTHER IDIOT SAYING OBAMA WILL WON LOL
GOP GURU PREDICTS OBAMA LANDSLIDE
Republican strategist Ed Rollins knows landslides.
He ran Ronald Reagan’s 1984 campaign, helping the President win reelection by 49 states. As a loyal Republican, Rollins has served in several G.O.P. administrations, managed a slew of campaigns, and earned so much trust within the party, he still holds the honor of being the only non-member of Congress tapped to run the NRCC.
So it means something when an old hand like Ed Rollins unloads on John McCain, as he just did, declaring that the race is over, “no one cares” about McCain’s Ayers attacks, and the GOP nominee must think about the fundamental question, “how do you want to end your career?” To hammer home the point on CNN, Rollins added, “this is going to turn into a landslide.”
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/370994
That’s because Rollins has been implanted by CNN operatives. He’s been sitting on their panel as their ‘resident republican’ for too long that he’s actually drank some of their kool aid. Again, I question, just how many of these pundits and talking heads will have a career after the election when they are wrong.
Hmmmm….I can’t think of a better way to energize folks to vote for McCain myself…lol
I agree. “Obama landslide” is a scarey phrase, and that’s got to be for more than just those of us who post here. I think at LOT of people out there are having doubts about him.
I have Democrat friends who are going to hold their noses and vote for him purely because he is a Democrat — as Hillary has asked them to do. They call themselves “platform” voters and believe that the sheer fact he is a democrat will keep him in line.
But when I remind them that McCain is so liberal he almost lost the conservative wing of his own party, they pause … and think.
I’ll bet you a large number of Americans decide with their hand on the (proverbial) lever this year.
rollins is still for sell i see. rollins, shut up, you are as pathetic as they wanna be over at fox who got fired by clinton for arrogance and sucking toes.
Let’s see now…didn’t he just run Romney’s campaign? Ed’s not picking winners lately.
Oh ,have we not heard that ‘Song and Dance’before ?
Yes,when the MSM insisted on Hillarys race being over weeks before the primaries end.
This in the midst of her winning most of the remaining races.Same lame strategy to aid BO to the finish line as he can not do it without his army of adoring journalists.
Beware of the people being pushed in one direction only.It is going to backfire !
New Fox Poll Data!
Obama 46, McCain 39
Obama’s favorability:Favorable 60, unfavorable 34
McCain’s favorability:Favorable 53, unfavorable 40
“There’s a sucker born every minute.” P.T.Axelrod
GEE….I can vote on American Idol how many times?
What? Me Worry? - Alfred E. Obama
Doesn’t this absolutely scream that people want neither of these candidates???? People are rethinking for BOs number to be that low and so many to be undecided. This means the race definitely isn’t over.
Let me start with the polls from OCT 11 2004.
Kerry 280 - Bush 254
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Oct11.html
Does this not look familiar? Did anybody think that Bush would win? Especially since he was not truly elected in 2000? Everybody in the democratic circles had a sense that the wrongs of 2000 will be corrected and we will finally get a President in the White House who understood our problems and will put an end to the Iraq war. On Nov 1st things looked even better.
Kerry 298 – Bush 231
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Nov01.html
On Nov 5th 2004, however, those hopes died and everybody tried to find somebody to blame.
Arguing polls and predictions by pudits is circular and a distraction. We need to focus on what can we do today to help elect Mac! The outcome is the outcome. Fark the crystal ball poop. Fight on!
“Stand up for each other; for beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.”
i do remember clearly that dems were very confident that kerry would win. wasn’t he even preparing his “victory speech” on election day and dem sheep thought he was on the verge of giving it when, oops, looks like things didn’t turn out the way they thought.
Thank you for a bit of optimism we all needed today especially hearing that Obama is going to buy himself some blabbing bull time on TV. At least this time he doesn’t get it all for free. I will never trust main stream media again, no on TV, magazines, newspapers or radio. Most are all lying hacks who have been bought and paid for by SOROS, OBAMA, et al. They destroyed the fourth estate of this great country and it cannot be put back together again. I hold 99% of them as traitors to America. I hope some day to see most of them in jail. McCain/Palin 08.
I feel the same way. Accountability of the media.
Barky’s numbers were always inflated artificially…
Soeterobama is headed for political oblivion…and maybe prison…sing REZKO sing
If they put these animals in jail I will work for free as a guard…………
LOL….AAAAAND I WILL BAKE THEM A CAKE…LOL
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and a little history on predictions Capt. Howdy.
This has been quite an election year.
I cannot imagine Obama winning this year. Obama has some serious problems with his past associations and no solid record (how many flip flops can we count?). These issues do not give voters confidence in his convictions. There are too many unknowns about him and lingering doubt will make people hesitant to vote for him when they are in the privacy of the voting booth.
I made my mind up after I witnessed and reported voter fraud at my Precinct Convention in March. I was screamed at and called a liar for reporting what went on by Obama supporters. It was like mob rule.
People have thrown away their decency and convictions on behalf of Obama. That concerns me to no end.
I sure hope that you’re right but right now I’m just not seeing it. Something big is going to have to happen regarding Obama for him to lose this election. We keep hearing that it is out there but it hasn’t shown up yet. If the MSM wanted to there is certainly enough in the ACORN story to sink Obama. But the media hasn’t given any indication that they are going to run with this story. Hopefully that will change by next week. If it doesn’t it looks like we are going to be stuck with President Obama. Yuk!
It’s been all over FOX today
Fox will be the only media outlet that gives the story any attention. The rest of them … ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the AP, the NY Times, the Washinngton Post, the SF Chronicle, the LA Times … are so totally in the tank for Obama even if pictures surfaced showing him actually molesting a 6 year old, they wouldn’t cover it.
Even though we’re on the same side, I have to say that the latter part of your comment is unbelievably tasteless.
…but unfortunately true….
So many things can happen between now and November. I am reminded of the parable in the New Testament about a farmer anticipating his better-than-best harvest; he said his storehouse was too smal; he would tear it down and build a much larger one; then he will sit around and not farm anymore because he would have enough to last his lifetime. Then God said, “you fool! Don’t you know that by tomorrow you will be gone?” We humans often forget that there is a Higher Power that is involved in our destinies. Let us pray to be on the side of what is good. God Bless this country and all the good people. Keep them safe.
Felizarte,
Amen
from open thread:
On August 8, Larry Johnson wrote this here at No Quarter:
Larry is viewed as a person of integrity, and we’ve come to trust his sources. Could Larry PLEASE provide an update?
Did you email Larry? Find any of his posts and click on his name.
No, I didn’t email him. Maybe he could respond in a post or comment openly so everyone can see the information. I’m sure I’m not the only one wondering where all this stuff is.
I have not personally talked to Larry about those issues but I believe that Larry was either lying about these things existing or is just a sucker. I’m also pretty sure that all the people who believed that these things existed are, in fact, suckers. But I could be wrong.[You'll need to take it elsewhere. - Administrator]
Over? OVER? It ain’t over ’til we say it’s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!”
“Did he just say Germans?”
“Forget it. He’s rolling.”
I think it’s not just a hidden anti-Obama vote, but also hidden pro-McCain vote (not always the same thing). I belive many people have probably decided to vote for McCain, but are not announcing that fact to their pro-Obama friends(?) because they’re sick of being called a racist. I live in a pretty liberal area, and I just don’t feel like arguing with Obama people all the time, so I know alot of people probably figure I’m supporting Obama (I still have my Hillary stickers on my car), so sometimes I will just let them assume we’re on the same side. It’s easier since I have to deal with these kool-aid drinkers later at my job, or at the kids school, so I can’t alienate them completely.
I think a similar situation happened in 2004 with alot of people planning on voting for Bush, but not announcing the fact (even in exit polling) for fear of being harrassed, so that was where his “hidden vote” came from. I guess people who didn’t vote for Kerry were “racists” too.
I was in what is supposed to be a very blue area last week and saw mostly McCain signs. Although this is only anecdotal, it supports what you are generally saying.
I think that there are many who don’t like either candidate, but will choose McCain over Obama because he is the lesser of two evils. Although I don’t think of McCain as evil, as a Democrat, I will be voting for him, but I wish that I did have someone better to choose. Hillary would have been perfect for me, but I don’t appreciate her campaigning for Obama, regardless of her reasons.
I was prepared to either NOT vote or write in Hillary’s name until McCain picked Sarah.
That to me, said at the very least, John McCain appreciates and is WILLING to consider a woman’s point of view on most issues!
Bambi proved how much he can’t STAND women.
He likes girls and hags, that’s about it.
jmo
and my apologies to the dense little ones but I wish you’d stick to what you are good at - and it’s NOT politics
Same here. I don’t talk politics with anyone except my PUMA friends. There are many many many quiet McCain voters out there who aren’t surfing the blogs 24/7. There will be a groundswell of conservative voters show up on Nov 4 ,just like they did in 2004.
It’s the Obots who make all the noise and the MSM exhausting themselves trying to sell the general public on the idea that no one cares about B Hussein’s radical cronies and the election is over.
Don’t believe the hype.
Absolutely. I live in a liberal area as well. For Obama supporters calling a McCain supporter a racist is a favorite past time.
I am the only one at my work that publically supports McCain. Funny thing is that I have had quite a few democrats that tell me in confidence that they are voting for McCain, like it’s a “dirty secret”!! LOL
We are the ones that will elect McCain/Palin 2008 in a landslide!
I really hope that the author of this article is correct, and as a registered Republican and long-term John McCain supporter, I pray that he is.
But trying to be realistic, I simply can’t imagine that any candidate of the incumbent party in the White House could overcome the double whammy of the recent meltdown in the world financial markets and an incumbent president with an approval rating below 30%. Even Ronald Reagan would be trailing right now under those circumstances.
Unless and until the markets stabilize and financial crisis gets off of the front pages, McCain has no chance. When people are scared, they will tend to vote against the party in power. It’s always been that way.
Your theory is missing four key elements:
Never count Mac out. He was counted out a year ago and now could become our next president.
Obama even with his MSM in the tank is extremely vulnerable due to his past affiliations, collaborators, and “mentors, pastors and friends.”
Naysayers are never the ones to get anything done.
If you really are a Mac supporter stop being so damn negative.
HEAR HEAR!!
It’s the primary strategy again. Declare victory before victory in the hopes that
Hillary ClintonMcCain/Palin just gives up and goes back to AZ and AK.I live and work in ground zero of looney liberal-ness, also known as the Peoples Republic of San Francisco, and I can count the times on two hands that I’ve seen an Obama bumber stickers, yard sign (0 actually), buttons and shirts on people in the City.
There is NO Obama hype in the country. He can barely poll 50% in polls that have the Dems up by 6-10 points in the sampling.
I was at the Not Strictly Bluegrass Festival in Golden Gate Park last weekend, packed with what should be Obama’s core base. There was a woman walking through the crowd with Obama gear and voter registration forms. I tried to watch her as for as long as I could as she meandered through the crowd and yet no one I saw even stopped to talk to her.
Last month at a free concerts in Yerba Buena Gardens aI saw only one too far past middle aged hippie chick wearing an Obam tee shirt. As I past her I pointed at her shirt and smiled, and as she started to smile back at me I said you have courage to wear your stupidity where everyone can see it, and walked away. But you are right, it is a rare sighting to see Obama bumper stickers and lawn signs, even down here on the peninsula where there are some lawns.
WHen I try to engage in a discussion of the issues with someone I know personally, a friend or coworker, who I know will be voting for Obama, the best I can ever get is the Pavlovian dog response…. not Bush… hope… change…. and it does not get any deeper than that. It is as if Bay Area voters are politically disengaged and on autopilot to vote for in every election the candidate who can use the word progressive the most times in a single sentence.
It is not about any issue with the vast majority of Bay Area voters, but all about feel good politics and a herd mentality. It’s just easier that way for too many people.
Thanks for those real time observations!
My sympathies to all you SF/Bay Area peeps. Although the scenery is wonderful, it is hard to find anyone who makes sense politically.
I think they are definitely on auto pilot. I have a hard time here too but when Carmelites are opposed to the Dems, there’s nothing undecided about it. We have a lot of old hippys (nothing sadder is there?) here too but we also have many people associated with the military and intelligence agencies. I see a few Obama stickers and some Carmel yard signs but not one McCain. Our former Mayor, Clint Eastwood is a big Republican supporter and the current Mayor (former CIA) and City Council I believe are Repubs. In that climate the missing McCain signs signal underground voters, not wanting an argument.
I’m just being realistic. I’ve sent McCain about $300 this year and I’ve been a warrior for him on the various political message boards for six months now.
But I also have a degree in political science and have been following presidential politics closely for well over 30 years.
Can McCain still win? Of course he can. If Wall Street stabilizes, if the Republicans really do have some of the weapons-grade smut on the Obamas (like the “Whitey Tape”) that they’re rumored to have, and if there really is a significant hidden anti-Obama vote out there, he could still pull it out.
But would I bet on him winning now? Unfortunately, no. And it’s not his fault. It’s ultimately the fault of the moron that we nominated and elected instead of McCain in 2000 who’s totally destroyed the Republican brand through his staggering incompetence as well as the fault of the party’s corrupt congressional leadership.
Frankly, going against the triple headwinds of Bush’s unpopularity, an economy heading into recession, and a media establishment totally in the tank for his opponent, I’m amazed McCain has been able to be as competitive as he has.
I’m not so sure Duras, I live in PA, and I see McCain/Paline signs 10-1 here. I get a least one anti-Obama e-mail a day from a new person (some of which I wouldn’t expect). The manipulation of the stock markets and the timing of the crash of the housing market looks a little too suspicious to a lot of us gun and religion clinging folks.
you could be right.
however, I have thought that the economic problems may only help Obama to a point. in other words, if it really starts looking like a “crisis” there could be a limit to the amount it helps Obama.
it would be another reason not to put the novice in charge.
just MO.
not an economist and I dont play one on teevee.
shit, I cant even balance my checkbook.
the market stabalized today. americans have short attention spans. oh well on to the next obama scandal!
you betcha!!!
BigTentDemocrat is a self-righteous, bully of a douc#ebag. A pompous, blowhard who doesn’t believe in dissent. I want to see him cry after Obama loses the general election.
He can kiss my Italian a$$.
HERE! HERE! JM….YOU BETCHA!
He is just another example of the Obama sludge that has turned the Democratic party pool into a cesspool.
I call it the Democratic cesspool creating th