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Write-in Hillary NOT

I had thought that come election day the only sane thing I could do is write-in Hillary. Both to feel good about voting for the most qualified and as a protest vote.

But there is only one thing a write-in vote will do. It will hurt Hillary. It will hurt more than voting for McCain or not voting at all. Because a write-in vote will give the Obamacrats written proof that Hillary supporters did not come on board.

That will of course be her fault. If he loses they will blame her for the loss and point to the write-in votes that could have carried him. If he somehow wins, they’ll use the votes against her and say she can’t be trusted.

Either way, if there is a large write-in vote, Hillary Clinton will be alientated from her party and permanently hurt.

I respect her too much to be a part of that so I will not write her name on the ballot.

Cross posted from Partizane.com

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Comment by NewHampster | 2008-10-13 14:06:31

This is serious people. Please do not write-in Hillary and tell your friends not to. She knows we’re here and doesn’t need her ego stroked by the likes of us PUMAs. She does need to preserve her role in the next version of the Democratic Party.

Comment by WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName | 2008-10-14 12:13:39

 

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-10-14 12:29:06

ALSO - In some states a write in of the same party automatically goes to the parties candidate!!

(someone told me this, and I think it is true!)

Gee, Obama getting Hillary votes? Now…haven’t we seen that before?

Also, some states don’t allow write in votes.

Comment by Annie | 2008-10-14 16:35:07

I was just about to comment about that fact. Especially this time around the Obamabot phenom will place any and all votes written in for Hillary Clinton into his column of counted votes. In some states there is no allowable slot to write in a vote. Any vote against Obama hs to be for the most likely candidate - John McCain.

Also take a look at the down ticket dems - and decide whether or not to vote for each particular one. Taking into consideration some of them who voted for Obama even though their constituents overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton - they don’t deserve the vote.

It has to be America over Party now.

 
 

Comment by barry bums a ciggie | 2008-10-14 13:06:12

I love me some Hillary but will not waste my vote on writing in her name. I really want my vote to make an impact. I want to vote a loud resounding HELL NO to the DNC and Barry by voting for McCain. If there was any hesitation on my part, it was all gone when I saw those punks with the Palin is a c*** tshirt. There is NOTHING cool or hip about HATE that is directed to mothers, daughters, sisters and wives of this country. They are saying loud and clear that women are bitches and to hell with us because a bro always comes before a ho. I will remember in November!!!

Comment by cal | 2008-10-14 18:27:27

Hear, hear barry bums a ciggie. Heh, great screen name, btw. :)

 
 

Comment by Touchet | 2008-10-14 14:03:04

Make absolutely NO mistake. This PUMA is voting for McCain. And so is his “domestic partner”.

 

Comment by Mickey | 2008-10-14 14:04:52

Same here I live in Texas that can write in her name, but I think in order to beat Obama I will vote for McCain out right!

 

Comment by nancysabet | 2008-10-14 14:25:52

ARE YOU JOKING? please DON”T WRITE IN Hillary, VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

 

Comment by Felizarte | 2008-10-14 14:56:59

Even before the primaries were over, I have openly stated that I will ote McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. I do not want Barack Hussein Obama for president of the U.S. And I want my vote to have impact: minus 1 from Obama and plus one for McCain which doubles the impact of my vote.

 

Comment by Rocky Mountian High | 2008-10-14 16:30:18

Plus the fact, that writing in Hillary is a wasted vote as it could potentially have the same effect as what Ralph Nader did in the previous general elections which always steels votes away from the candidates. Cast your protest vote for McPalin, they’re going to end up winning anyway. They will know that many Hillary supporters have crossed over without having to write her in. I agree with NewHampster, it will hurt Hillary by writing her in, that’s not what she wanted. If she did, then why didn’t she just run as an Independent and save us all the consternation?

Comment by NomNomNom | 2008-10-14 21:27:00

Ralph Nader was a candidate, as was Teddy Roosevelt when he ran as an independent (he got 28% of the vote); Lenora Fulani who was the first aa woman to appear on the ballot in all 50 states and won matching funds; H. Ross Perot (he got 19% of the vote at 19.7 million votes!). Tell me again how well the current 2 major parties have been doing for you, Rocky Mountain High.
A vote for a 3rd party candidate is not a vote for BHO, it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.. I am just as entitled to vote for a candidate whom I feel represents my interests as you are for yours. If McCain or BHO had wanted my vote, they could freaking well have done something to earn it.
Next general election we are going to have one functioning major party: the Repubs. That’s not a good thing, in terms of checks and balances, not a good thing at all.
If any 3rd party candidate gets 5% of the vote, that party will receive both ballot access and federal funding.
Anyone considering writing Clinton’s name in who does not wish to vote for BHO or McCain, please consider voting 3rd party. The same goes for those who live in solidly red or blue states: you vote might serve even better for a 3rd party candidate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhT3wYeuY8c

 
 

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 16:32:41

Will spread the word.

Perhaps this is why she just announced it was doubtful she would ever run for POTUS, again.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-10-14 19:45:04

Agree NewHampster!! I was extremely tempted because I wanted to vote for whom I believe in, really; and to stick it to the DNC leadership. But just as you did; I thought it over a while ago and decided it would only hurt Hillary (not the DNC) whether Obama wins or loses.

I believe however that if Obama wins Hillary will be severely ostracized anyway and possibly hurt politically. She will certainly not have much political capital… In fact, it’ll be the end of HRC’s political career (unless she has already negotiated something substantial with him; like
Reid’s post or…)

 

Comment by makeji | 2008-10-14 22:18:16

Hillary is busting her butt to get Obama elected. She was interviewed today on Fox and said that she was not interested in running for president again. So she’ll be responsible, in part, for getting him elected and leave us in the dust again. I wish I could get the time and money and energy that I have expended on her back.

 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-14 12:02:55

EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN. WE NEED EVERY LAST PUMA!

Comment by LarsThorwald | 2008-10-14 12:16:24

You guys are ridiculous, you know that? Fools. Fools who are going to lose.

[Administrator: We have put up with innumerable negative comments like yours, and weathered them all. Yours above is an unconstructive remark that doesn't contribute anything substantive to the conversation at hand. Why not go to a pro-Obama blog, and have fun, or to any of the other millions of blogs out there?

By the way, we have some good company, including Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Dr. Lynette Long, and a top attorney in Washington D.C. who is the husband of Greta Van Susteran -- all of them longtime Democrats who have put in more hours for the Democratic party than most of us here combined. But they see the problems of Obama's candidacy, and so do we.

Had Obama put in real work in the U.S. Senate, like Jim Webb has -- instead of using it as an immediate springboard to the presidency -- or had he administered a big city, as Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter has, I'd support him in a heartbeat. In fact, I hope that Michael Nutter becomes governor of Pennsylvania someday soon (which will make him more qualified and more experienced), and then I hope that Michael Nutter can run for president -- and I'll work my heart out for him. Because he will have the requisite experience and attention devoted to his previous jobs that Mr. Obama has NOT put in.]

Comment by Pragmatist | 2008-10-14 12:24:05

Obamobots are the real fools (anti-american fools, too)!

Comment by seattle slough | 2008-10-14 12:42:48

No foolish is the author of this blog being concerned about written proof of Hillary Supporters not supporting Obama. Um, what do you think this blog is?

The real reason she doesn’t want all you rabid PUMAs to write in Hillary is because then it would be obvious that there are only about 10,000 of you.

In other words. You make not half a shit of difference. Vote for whoever you want. Don’t let some idiot No Quarter blogger tell you what to do. Vote for Frank Zappa’s corpse for all I care. http://www.zappa.com/flash/vote/index.html

Comment by portia9 | 2008-10-14 12:50:16

No, please vote for John McCain. Socialism will not work in this country, just as it did not work in the Soviet Union. We will all suffer greatly under an Obama Presidency.

Comment by seattle slough | 2008-10-14 13:01:35

Socialism?

Are you a tenth grader?

There is no “yes or no” question on socialsm. It is a how much socialism is best.

Having a publicly funded police force is socialism. Having public roads, public utilities, public libraries, public health departments, public fire departments, public pools, public parks, etc. That is socialism.

No one argues that we should all have only private roads and private armies, and private fire departments, so the question is, how much socialism is proper.

McCain wants the government to nationalize our banking system, so I think in technical terms, he is more of a socialist than is Obama.

But it is a scary word, so keep using it.

Comment by masslib | 2008-10-14 13:11:44

That’s just dumb. Every candidate want the US to nationalize the banking system. Indeed, every politician in the global economy is for nationalizing the banking system. you’d have to be absolutely stupid to think obama doesn’t support this, unless you think he’s all for a depression.

 

Comment by masslib | 2008-10-14 13:19:19

“No one argues that we should all have only private roads and private armies, and private fire departments, so the question is, how much socialism is proper.”

Um, actually they do. There have long been arguments to privatize roads, and Chicago is doing this with one highway today, VA has one, countries like Chile where Milton friedman’s Chicago boys have flourished are nearly completely reliant on private roads. Private armies, yeah, we have those, what do you think private security contractors in Iraq are for crissakes?

Comment by Cahil | 2008-10-14 13:31:45

Yes — and Obama wants to keep Blackwater going — or haven’t you heard? He is also for a civilian security force — that sounds a little worrisome to me.

Comment by McAnnie Carmel Baracuda | 2008-10-14 15:24:45

Cahil: Who do you think the Civilian Security Force will be?

There has already been mention of a plan to privatize our PD’s and FD’s.

One person commented to me that if Blackwater was hired to be the new private police and fire departments, we might have to pay them to come if we were in trouble. My answer to that is if they are staffed by Blackwater, you’ll be paying them not to come.

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-10-14 17:54:32

Yikes! I had forgotten about Obama and Blackwater and had not thought about him using them for the civilian force. What a lovely country it will be if Obama gets elected. Just like Kenya or Russia or Germany in the early 1940s.

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Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-10-14 13:34:51

Seattle Slough:
Only one candidate has been endorsed by the Socialist Party, and only one candidate was an active member of that party in exchange for their support and endorsement, and that candidate was NOT Sen. McCain. That party has also publicly sated that they would not be successful as a third party, and would have to take over the Democratic Party if they wanted to be able to advance their agenda.

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/2nd-source-confirms-obama-socialist.html

 
 

Comment by KathyNeocon | 2008-10-14 13:32:53

Obama admittedly wants to “spread the wealth around” with his socialist/communist policies, just like his ACORN buddies did when they filed lawsuits to force banks to give mortgage loans to UNQUALIFIED candidates.

 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-14 14:25:21

Well, I don’t comment much but sure read all of our comments and it seems that

“THEY’RE BACK”!!!!!

As soon as Mc Cain goes even a little point up in polls, “Bamatrolls” Patrol comes in, like thieves in the dark, to distract us, molest us emotionally, and try to lure us to their bait.

IGNORE THEM.

Consult your conscience for she is your best Leader.
Listen to your basic inner reason, and let the FACTS, not WORDS and EMPTY promises misguide you.

You, like I want our vote to count and counter attact strongly against the opposition. In the future, maybe better roads will follow.

We only have one loud and clear choice to stop Obama’s embellished socialism “Chigagoan thug zombie style government” from ruling:

Mc Cain/ Palin 2008

Comment by McAnnie Carmel Baracuda | 2008-10-14 15:26:52

You betcha. And wasn’t it nice when they thought they were a shoo in?

Please! Ignore the trolls.

 

Comment by sam bonner | 2008-10-14 16:26:36

I wonder if any of you know how ignorant you sound when you conflate ’socialism’ with Chicago ‘thug style government’. There is a ‘limousine left’ or ‘egghead left’ element in Chicago, usually known over the years as the ‘lakefront liberals’, but they have never been part of the traditional ‘thug style’ Democratic machine of the city.

You people sound extremely ignorant when you keep associating Obama with the ‘machine’ in Chicago.

 
 
 
 

Comment by FembotsForObama | 2008-10-14 14:17:50

PUMA votes are essential to this election. Which is why you idiot Obamabots can’t stay away from PUMA websites.

After 20 years of being an active Dem Party member, I definitively decided to vote for McCain after I heard that Obama had campaigned for his brutal tribal cousin Odinga using taxpayer-financed dollars to go to Kenya. Odinga made deals with Muslims leaders who want to impose Sharia law in Kenya to get their support. Obama knew this and was providing campaign advice to Odinga as recent as Dec 2007!

Don’t waste your vote writing in Hillary. Even if you can find out the rules for your state, the stakes are too high to trust anyone at this point.

 

Comment by cookiegramma | 2008-10-14 14:23:45

I have thought about this question before, but now I ask it; If we are so insignifigant why are you even bothering?

 
 
 

Comment by K Lynne | 2008-10-14 12:26:28

You know what, even if McCain loses I will know that I did my part to keep that from happening. I believe in my heart that McCain will be better for the country than Obama will be.

I don’t understand one bit the idea that one should not vote for someone who is behind in the polls. Why would anyone vote for someone they disagree with just because he is ‘going to win anyway’? What is it with the whole bandwagon mentality?

Comment by WestPalm2008 | 2008-10-14 12:51:02

EXACTLY.

Obama may win. But he sure as hell isn’t going to win with MY vote.

I am proud to say that NONE of my votes ever went to Bush, despite the fact that he “won.”

Like Bush, Obama may “win,” but I believe firmly that Obama will be the ultimate loser. Now if only we could stop the great bamboozling narcissist from comissioning his own monument and tomb in DC the moment he’s sworn in….

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-10-14 13:38:53

And if Obama wins, Bush wins again because he will lose his “Worst President Ever” title to his immediate successor.

Comment by lisa in va | 2008-10-14 14:26:26

Oh gawd I didn’t think of that!

 
 

Comment by Don | 2008-10-14 14:36:59

“Like Bush, Obama may “win,” but I believe firmly that Obama will be the ultimate loser.”

Disagree. Our country will be the ultimate loser!

 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-14 14:28:46

I saw a car with a NOBAMA bumper sticker today. Someone had damaged it. There was no way that the dent could have been caused any other way. Only savages could think they are ENTITLED to attack the property of another as though ownership has no meaning. They need to be KEPT OUT OF CIVILIZED soceity, much less get access to government.

McCain/Palin.

PUMA

 
 

Comment by Judy L. NC | 2008-10-14 12:27:23

Comment by barry bums a ciggie | 2008-10-14 13:09:45

I remember Lars from Taylor Marsh…he was always sitting in the corner with that white conical hate on. Did Taylor let you out to spread stupidity around the blogs?

 
 

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-10-14 12:54:51

A FOOL IS A MAN WHO REFUSES TO HEED THE CONCIL OF WISDOM. SO EVEN IF MCCAIN LOOSES, IT IS YOU NOT US THAT ARE FOOLS. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU PRESONALLY RESPONSIBLE WHEN OBAMA RUNS THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND. RESPONSIBILTY IS SOMETHING YOU RITALIN GENERATON KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

 

Comment by Midlife Mama | 2008-10-14 13:05:00

LarsThorwald, if we are fools, then lots of us are fools who are going to do everything we can to prevent Obama from winning by voting for McCain.

[ADMIN: Let's not respond to the trolls. Thank you.]

 

Comment by janicen | 2008-10-14 13:12:18

Lars, are you still around? Fools, huh? To my mind, a fool is somebody who works for a high-priced lobbying firm but gets relegated to trolling blogs. Why not take on managing the “Coffee Club”, Lars? Maybe that will put you on a partnership track.

 

Comment by Ani | 2008-10-14 19:23:39

Amen.

Also, I love Michael Nutter and trust he has a big future on the national stage - I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Period

 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-10-14 12:19:29

No, they don’t. People need to vote for whomever they choose and let the chips fall where they may.

Do not associate the PUMA movement with the GOP. It’s a false association and it is harmful to suggest it.

I agree that voting for Clinton is not a swift idea if you care about her at all. However, if you don’t like McCain, and you don’t like Obama, there’s always one of those fringe, third candidate choices that you can use to express your dissatisfaction with both.

Afraid of being called a racist by the crazed Obots? Vote for Cynthia McKinney.

Proud of being a racist? Vote for Ron Paul.

See, there ARE choices…the bitter truth is, though, that all the choices suck. And they’re pretty fucking meaningless at the end of the day.

The good choice–CLINTON–was eviscerated by Howard Dean and a bunch of craven, sexist assholes known collectively as the DNC–may they rot in hell. I want my money back!

So people don’t “need” to vote for McCain. If they want to do that, as a way of telling Howard Dean and all of the “Screw The Democratic Process” crowd in the Democratic Party to go fuck themselves, well, more power to them. It is one of many ways to do that. If they vote for McCain because they find him to be simply WORSE rather than the absolute WORST, well, that’s fine too. But if they choose to vote for someone else to express their dissatisfaction, that’s their choice, too.

Comment by missouridove | 2008-10-14 12:29:31

Clinton Fan: Of course we all have a choice. To me, I am frightened about Obama’s pending regime, very frightened, and so I’m voting McCaine/Palin. I feel at least they have integrity and can relate to more than base human emotions and responses. Not sure if that applies much if any to Obama and his entourage.

Comment by Sue | 2008-10-14 12:42:53

Imo, integrity and character are everything. I am scared to death of Obama because he has none.

 

Comment by Judy L. NC | 2008-10-14 12:47:37

Me too. At least I know McCain/Palin have my best interests at heart. I do not know that from Obama.

 
 

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-14 12:29:49

Do not associate the PUMA movement with the GOP. It’s a false association and it is harmful to suggest it.

You are correct - this PUMA is no longer a PUMA. You need to belong to the democratic party for that and I have left the party and slammed the door shut behind me.

I agree that Hillary is no longer our choice, but that is her doing, no one else’s, we saw through the primaries what a strong women she was. I guess it was a facade. This “EX” puma has moved over to the GOP.

Comment by ldyoung | 2008-10-14 12:41:56

Hillary will always be my choice. I supported her because she stood for every value I hold dear — Democrat or otherwise. Yes, the DNC stole the primary election from her and us — but life goes on. Hillary is still Hillary and I will always admire, love and trust her. She is doing what she believes is right so that she can continue to help this country by working in the United States Senate. If you have abandoned Hillary because Hillary has stayed true to her principles and her party, then you were never really a Hillary supporter in the first place. Nobama for me — but Hillary always.

Comment by Judy L. NC | 2008-10-14 12:52:34

See, that’s where I’m feeling a little lost. How can she now tell us Mr. One-speech-in-2002 is the better candidate? (rhetorical)

Comment by Ani | 2008-10-14 13:35:58

She doesn’t. She is keeping her word to the Dem Party — no more no less. And also ensuring that she keeps her place at the table in the Senate — on important committees and so forth, where she can be of more help.

If she is made a pariah, she cannot do anyone any good.

That is how politics works. It is ugly, but there it is.

 
 

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-14 13:35:50

Thanks for trying to correct me and making the assumption I was “never really a true Hillary supporter”. I have the debt and the lost time spent supporting her to prove I was!

While her principals were to be admired, her courage and leadership to do the right thing at the end were lacking. She started a fight, vowed to continued it and stood strong until she really needed to fight. I could understand she was tired of it all, but then that is not someone we want as President. She let the election be stolen from her. While she still might have not been given the nomination, that convention was a sham. Another loss for women’s place in history. She should have fought for that role call. Young girls in the future should have been able to see what a great women really accomplished. That was stolen from them.

At this point the only way women’s rights and equality in America can even start to be restored after this election is if Palin get’s to be VP. Other then that, women can start all over again, because at this point it does not seem to be a problem calling a woman the “b” or “c” words, whores, sluts or the whole litany of crap the democratic party and the media says is ok.

Now if her principals are so strong - why is she letting the democratic party getting away with what it is doing? And in vocally supporting Obama she is perpetuating the problem.

No I will not make the same mistake in 2012 given the chance again.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-10-14 13:57:14

While the Democratic Party has left me, it left Hillary as well, and no matter what she does to help drag Barky’s scrawny ass across the finish line, she will always be vilified by “her party”. If Obama wins, the hijacking of the Democratic Party is finalized, and Hillary will never have another chance (she knows this, and that is wht she made the announcement that she won’t run for President in 2012, and won’t make a run for any other leadership position). As long as she maintains her Senate seat, she will be seen as a threat by “her own” party, and no matter what loyalty she exhibits, the Party will front primary challenges and do everything they can to finish her off. While I don’t believe that she could make a successful run as a third party candidate in a basically two party system, at least she could have maintained a shread of decency and integrity by simply going about her Senate business, and letting Barky sink or swim on his own. She will get nothing from “her party”, so why sacrifice her integrity ?

Comment by Wisewoman | 2008-10-14 16:01:15

I am an AA female Hillary supporter. Initially I tried to rationalize what Hillary was doing but I now associate my self with the comments of PhxNickD & Rob in Chicago. I would like to interject one major comment area only. Hillary lost her nerves early in the process when unlike McCain she refused to challenge and fight Obama on the race card tactic he pulled in SC. She also refused to let Bill fight for his good name as well. I’m sure she thought she was doing the politically smart thing but she did not fully understand what was being done to her. From news comments Bill tried to tell her to fight that racism charge but she came out with a statement saying it was her campaign and she “makes the decision”.

This gave Obama the opening he was searching for in that it gave the left-wing members of the party who had come out publically for her (Kennedy, John Lewis, etc) the ready made escuse to abandon her and campaign for Obama. Although she did not realize it she was then in the dogfight of her life. By not fighting the charge she did not understand that uninformed blacks would believe these charges wholeheartedly and become angry and liberals would turn against her. AS AN AA I KNEW THAT THIS WOULD BE HER BIGGEST POLITICAL BLUNDER OF THE CAMPAIGN. I wrote her advising her to reconsider and fight this smear.

Obama and his supporters have continued to pull out the race card whenever he appeared to be falling behind or slipping. Because I was directly involved in marching with Dr. King during the civil rights struggle, I detest Obama for this tactic and will never, ever vote for him.

Comment by Cinie | 2008-10-14 18:06:41

I am also a black woman and am somewhat disappointed with HRC’s one-woman GOTV effort for Obama. That being said, as to the comment about taking on the race issue early on, that was a no-win proposition as soon as Obama made playing the race card his ace-in-the-hole. Though he started playing it way back when he and Harry Reid and Dick Durbin inflated the vague “threats” they wouldn’t show anybody so they could get Secret Service protection, even though nobody found any credible threats at all, the full frontal onslaught came after Clinton won New Hampshire. Going into SC, all the Obama thugs came after both Clintons racially, and even though she had about 60% of the black vote then, nobody white could have withstood such a coordinated effort given this country’s racial history. I, too, will never forgive Obama for that.

 

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-10-14 18:13:32

I’m also saddened to see Hillary and Bill Clinton campaigning for Obama, especially after his unforgivable behavior toward both of them. In fact, I decided to vote for McCain shortly after she dropped out of the race and one of the main reasons was that anyone who was such a liar that he would call those two racists was not fit to be President.

However, as Uppity put it at her website today, Hillary Has Left the Building. I’m just not going to spend any more time or energy worrying about what Hillary is doing or why she is doing it. I truly and sincerely fear for this country if Obama is elected, so I will be doing what I can for McCain/Palin. I know I have no intention of becoming a Democrat again; whether I will vote for any candidate (including Hillary) from now on will depend on whether I think they are the most qualified one in the race.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by gregory | 2008-10-14 12:38:33

Totally agreen I’m voting Greeen party: a woman and an African-American. No sexism or racism here and I avoid Obama (not to mention Nader) and McCain. Plus I give a 3rd party a chance that says THUMBS DOWN to a 2-party system. Plus it’s ecological. GO GREENS and Cynthia McKinney!

Comment by WestPalm2008 | 2008-10-14 12:53:35

I’d vote for McKinney, but I think she’s CRAZY and actually not very bright, despite belonging to the “Green” party.

Comment by JozefAL | 2008-10-14 13:23:25

She may be crazy, but she’s CONSISTENT. You KNOW where Cynthia stands EVERY SINGLE DAY.

 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-14 12:57:36

You should not vote for McKinney just to avoid being called racist - you’re implying that the rest of us PUMAs are voting for McCain out of racism (perhaps unwittingly.) Vote because you like her but this racist stuff has got to go.

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-10-14 13:16:00

Besides, have people forgotten? The NEW definition of racism is “didn’t support Obama”. Vote for McKinney if you want to. The Oborg will denounce you as “racist” anyway.

 
 
 

Comment by latina | 2008-10-14 14:36:15

And will our vote count to stop Obama’s madness??

Oh …BHO will be happy because hell say, like the Messiah, all my lost sheep came back to me.
Sorry but if 1 vote are needed to stop the Obama frenzy in the USA, it will be mine. Good Hillary, Ron Paul and other fews apt Candidates will not stop this madness.

You join force (vote) with the most able to defeat the wrong. The enemy of my enemy is my next friend.

 

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-10-14 15:15:52

So people don’t “need” to vote for McCain. If they want to do that, as a way of telling Howard Dean and all of the “Screw The Democratic Process” crowd in the Democratic Party to go fuck themselves, well, more power to them. It is one of many ways to do that. If they vote for McCain because they find him to be simply WORSE rather than the absolute WORST, well, that’s fine too. But if they choose to vote for someone else to express their dissatisfaction, that’s their choice, too.

All of the Presidential choices left this year are not as good as Hillary Clinton.

Yet, given what we now know about him that we didn’t know months ago, Barack Obama is the most DANGEROUS choice left on the ballot.

So many former Hillary supporters can use other methods of protest other than voting for McCain on Election Day. But what will be the (very real) possible consequence as a result?

AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY.

This will be a tight race - thanks to the scummy MSM, ACORN, Wall Street corporations and the rest of the scummy Obamacrats everywhere. (I’m not referring to the few decent Obama supporters left out there.) All of them are fighting desperately to steal the White House just like they stole the Democratic nomination. And if Obama gets in there, what do you think will happen to our democracy - given his lack of experience & well-documented Socialist background?

So if the idea of voting for McCain bothers some former Hillary supporters, they immediately need to be thinking of the potential alternative happening - Obama in the White House.

 
 

Comment by jackie | 2008-10-14 12:36:39

I would rather fight the good fight and die trying to save my country than to surrender to the likes of Barck Obama and his woman haters.

I have had to face subtle threats against my 10 year old daughter because I don’t suport Barack Obama. I will be damned if he gets one vote from my family.

Barack Obama is that stranger our mothers warned us about as children.

Comment by xax | 2008-10-14 13:11:36

whoa. seriously?

 

Comment by oowawa | 2008-10-14 13:48:02

“Barack Obama is that stranger our mothers warned us about as children.”

Yes Jackie, thanks for the apt metaphor. Moms warn against taking candy from strangers. Is he offering candy? Yep–but it’s better known as HOPIUM–a sweet narcotic with no nutritional value that turns you into a glassy-eyed bot. Is he a stranger? Couldn’t be any stranger. Nobody knows who he really is or where he is from, though we are starting to learn a lot about his mentors and friends. But alas, the warning may be too late. His brightly colored candy wagon is already packed with gullible schoolchildren.

 
 

Comment by RJ | 2008-10-14 12:53:13

ITA w/ Hillary or Bust. We ABSOLUTELY MUST vote for John McCain. Anyone who stays home, writes in a name or votes third party is voting for BO.

WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

McCain/Palin ‘08 Country First

 

Comment by Ellen D. | 2008-10-14 13:07:41

Only a McCain victory will result in a Hillary run in 2012.
If Obama wins, there’s no chance.
Support Hillary - hold your nose and vote McCain.

Comment by Felizarte | 2008-10-14 15:04:33

Hillary said (as reported in Yahoo news) that it is unlikely she will run again. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop as in, “I will no longer campaign . ..”

 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2008-10-14 12:05:32

Also, in a number of states, writing in Hillary means your vote automatically goes to the Democratic nominee, Obama.

If you do not want to see Obama elected, one has to commit to voting for another candidate who is on the ballot.

Comment by snosandy | 2008-10-14 12:12:44

I do not know if it would alienate her from the Democratic party because she is so loved by her supporters and that would prove it, but a write-in for Hillary means a win for NObama, and we don’t want that more than anything.

I had also originally planned on writing in Hillary’s name, but I realize by voting for McCain that I am actually taking away a vote for Obama, and that makes me very happy. Also, I have liked John McCain for many years and I trust him to take care of our country in all our crisises, the ones we know about now and those that are sure to happen.

 

Comment by scorbs | 2008-10-14 12:32:58

Ani’s right. In some states if you vote Hillary, they’ll count it as a vote for the Democrat who in this case is Obama. So DON’T WRITE IN HILLARY.

Comment by Ani | 2008-10-14 12:39:12

Furthermore, A Dem voting for McCain means they have to oome up with 2 votes for your 1 — since they were counting on having you in their column.

Something else to think about.

 
 

Comment by Bill | 2008-10-14 13:05:07

I just sent in my absentee ballot to Connecticut, and it plainly states that you can only vote for the names on the accompanying sheet, and that write-in votes with other names will not be counted. The choice was
Obama/B, McC/P, and the D and R reps. That’s it.

 
 

Comment by missouridove | 2008-10-14 12:07:02

Thank you, I agree 100% that writing in Hillary’s name not only increases odds of Obama winning, but could hurt Hillary’s standing as well.

Personally, I prefer to vote McCaine/Palin, as a vote against Obama. Any other vote or write-in or no vote does no good in this regard!

 

Comment by masslib | 2008-10-14 12:08:00

But what if i don’t want to hire Obama or McCain and the only candidate i want to hire is Hillary?

Comment by missouridove | 2008-10-14 12:13:54

Masslib:
Two things at work here: Yes, we want Hillary as President, but it will have to be delayed another 4 years. Secondly, McCaine is the lesser of the 2 evils; actually I consider him and Sarah as honorable people and the front-runner as Evil. Anyway, that’s how I look at it.

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-14 12:32:01

I guess you are not reading the news. Madame Hillary no longer wishes to run for President in 2012. Why should she after the way she was treated?

Comment by masslib | 2008-10-14 12:45:38

That’s not exactly what she said.

Comment by lisa in va | 2008-10-14 14:45:42

Okay, look at it this way. The odds of McCain running for 2 terms is remote. I’m thinking he would only be a 1 term president. So Hillary can run in 2012 against either Palin (doubtful) or some other Repub. But if Obama wins, he will be going for the full 2 terms. His ego dictates nothing less. Hillary wouldn’t be able to go up against a recumbant president from her own party, so she will have to sit out until 2016…which would make her close to 70 years old…doubtful she would run at that time.

Plus, if McCain wins, I’ve no doubt that Hillary’s status in Congress would be elevated. Pelosi, Reid, Dean and the other turncoats will quickly disappear into the background. McCain and Hillary are friends and I’ve no doubt he will work with her to get through positive legislation.

On the other hand, if Obama wins, Hillary will be discarded faster than an old shoe.

If you want Hillary to have a chance at the presidency, it has to be 2012 & Obama has to be out.

I was originally going to write in Hillary, but once I did the math, its McCain for me. Anything to keep O’blahblah from becoming potus.

Comment by cal | 2008-10-14 18:46:51

Yep, that’s exactly it and why I’ve already put my absentee ballot in the mail for McCain/Palin. And, you know, it was the first time in my life (and I’m no spring chicken) that I’ve voted for a Repub. But it was the right thing to do and I didn’t even flinch when I colored in that little oval. Not.one.single.bit.

 
 
 

Comment by Don | 2008-10-14 15:00:07

At this point an “almost zero possibility” means very little. Only thing I really did not like in her comment was something she said about looking forward to working in the Senate for Barack Obama’s administration. (I know, not exactly her words is the gist of it.)

I admire Hillary greatly and almost maxed out for her in the primary but am not sure I would support her in a 2012 run. Would have to see who else is running. Frankly have to admit that I lost some of my respect for both Bill and Hillary by their caving in to the DNC and Obama. The way things are looking right now, I probably need not worry about Hillary in 2012 because if Obama wins her thoughts of being president are IMHO over.

 
 
 

Comment by Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion | 2008-10-14 12:14:28

Delay Hillary’s hiring. Hire Mac now then Hillary in 2012. ;)

Seriously, we have to come together on this. Mac loves America. We may not love all his policies but he is the only viable horse in town. Obama has a radical past which he refuses to acknowledge. We have no idea how he would actually govern. We do know the horrific tactics he has been using to gain power and he must be defeated.

America needs every vote for Mac for a gazillion reasons.

 

Comment by Jackarooty | 2008-10-14 12:14:52

Hold your nose and vote for McCain. I’m giving him 4 years and that’s it.

It’s your duty as an American to vote. If you don’t vote then you will have NO right to complain.

 

Comment by WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName | 2008-10-14 12:15:07

masslib, it doesn’t matter…Hillary is not in the running. THere is no other choice but McCain if we don’t want nobama to get in.