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		<title>Where did &#8220;progressive&#8221; values go?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;[I]t’s been a sad and sobering week for &#8216;liberal&#8217; and &#8216;progressive&#8217; values,&#8221; writes The Daily Howler, reflecting on the repugnant words of Randi Rhodes that earned her a well-deserved indefinite suspension from Air America Radio.  
A week?  How about months of the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere&#8217;s incessant attacks on both Hillary Clinton and her supporters? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[I]t’s been a sad and sobering week for &#8216;liberal&#8217; and &#8216;progressive&#8217; values,&#8221; <a href="http://dailyhowler.com/dh040408.shtml">writes</a> <em>The Daily Howler</em>, reflecting on the repugnant words of <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/04/barack-randi-cozy-as-can-be/">Randi Rhodes</a> that earned her a well-deserved indefinite suspension from Air America Radio.  </p>
<p>A <em>week</em>?  How about <em>months</em> of the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere&#8217;s incessant attacks on both Hillary Clinton and her supporters?  This vitriol has far-reaching and <em>potentially lasting</em> implications, beyond the hate speech of Rhodes, Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/02/what-would-tip-oneil-do-about-baracks-pastors/">spiritual advisers</a>, and two individuals &#8212; <em>Huffington Post</em>&#8217;s Allison Kilkenny and talk radio&#8217;s Ed Schultz &#8212; who I called out last night in &#8220;<a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/06/obama-supporters-take-the-low-rhode/">Obama Supporters Take the Low Rhode</a>.&#8221;  What does this phenomenon really say about progressives?  In a rather severe but noteworthy indictment posted at the <em>Liberal Rapture</em> blog &#8212; &#8220;<a href="http://www.liberalrapture.com/2008/04/obama-infection-and-lynching-of-hillary.html">The Obama infection and the lynching of Hillary Clinton</a>&#8221; &#8212; John writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Obama has injected a poison into the body politic of the United States. The ugliness Obama has stirred up is real and severe - all the more damaging because he is so charming. We are past now the dizzying, frothing, mindless adoration from Huffington and the Daily Kos. We are now past the snotty, childish attacks on Clinton by Olbermann and Cafferty. We are into a new realm &#8230; The hatred quietly coached and encouraged by Axelrod is now bubbling forth everywhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then John wrote about the real meaning of what Randi Rhodes did to Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Randi Rhodes called Senator Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro &#8220;fucking whores&#8221; on stage. Do the math with me on this one moment: a liberal female talk show host called the first female V.P. candidate on a major party ticket and the first viable female Presidential candidate &#8220;fucking whores&#8221;.</p>
<p>For fun.</p>
<p>This is a symptom.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read all of John&#8217;s post, &#8220;<a href="http://www.liberalrapture.com/2008/04/obama-infection-and-lynching-of-hillary.html">The Obama infection and the lynching of Hillary Clinton</a>.&#8221; </p>
<p><em>The Daily Howler</em> notes the myth about &#8220;progressives&#8221; and &#8220;progressive&#8221; radio:</p>
<blockquote><p>For years, there was a self-flattering story we liberals liked to tell about the nature of talk radio. Theoretically, liberal talk radio would never work because we liberals are so bright, so intelligent, so independent&#8212;such non-ditto-heads, we kept saying. To be honest, this tale never made much sense. But Rhodes, and others, have made this week a time for some sober reflection.</p>
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Are progressives really brighter than conservatives? As a group, we tended to believe it when John Dean (who we admire) wrote that book. But uh-oh! This week, we emitted a low, mordant chuckle at one part of <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/02/obama_the_dynamic_whose_name_m/" target="external">this David Sirota piece</a>, to which we&#8217;d been linked by <a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/187065.php" target="external">the person who has kidnapped Josh Marshall</a>.</p>
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<p>Most of us, if not all of us, heretofore considered Air America Radio a good station to tune into.  Most of us, if not all of us, thought highly of Josh Marshall and his <em>Talking Points Memo</em> site. </p>
<p>Did they change?  Or were we wrong about them?  </p>
<p>But I didn&#8217;t realize, until I read the <em>Daily Howler</em>, that Josh Marshall had been &#8220;kidnapped.&#8221;  (By aliens, or by _____?) Or that the <em> TPM</em> writer Greg Sargent&#8217;s &#8220;short break&#8221; has been extended so long &#8212; perhaps indefinitely? And that his &#8220;short break&#8221; began &#8212; what a coincidence &#8212; <a href="http://dailyhowler.com/dh040408.shtml">shortly after the popular, widely-read Sargent had the nerve</a> to point out the negative media coverage of Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p>At any rate, the viciousness of the attacks is unrelenting, and it has claimed many victims &#8212; including people who have been banned from &#8220;progressive&#8221; Web sites simply because they support Hillary Clinton as well as those who dare to speak their minds such as Geraldine Ferraro.</p>
<p>Where will this hate speech and these attacks take us?  I&#8217;m worried. </p>
<p><strong>What becomes of a nation</strong> when one of its three leading contenders for the presidency of the United States has this man listed on his official campaign Web site as a spiritual adviser to him?</p>
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<p><strong>What becomes of a nation</strong> when its &#8220;progressives&#8221; stand silently by while hate speech is spewed at pro-Obama events &#8212; as Randi Rhodes did at an Obama gathering in San Francisco?</p>
<p><strong>What becomes of a nation</strong> when its &#8220;progressives&#8221; stand silently by while a priest like Father Pfleger &#8212; who is supported by and <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/02/what-would-tip-oneil-do-about-baracks-pastors/">featured by Barack Obama on his official campaign site</a> &#8212; defends Louis Farrakhan, so bigoted that the Southern Poverty Law Center lists his organization as a &#8220;hate&#8221; group?</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just that whoever likes my man Barack is cool with me.</p>
<p>Can it be just that crass?  Is there no discernment?  Do any of the Obama followers ever take a pause when they hear such hate speech?  Especially when their candidate remains strangely silent about the hate speech being spewed at his honorable opponent who, if any of her surrogates uttered such words, would never heard the end of it from the MSM and blogosphere.</p>
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